Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][Nova] API design and usability

2014-08-08 Thread Andrew Laski
On 08/07/2014 07:57 AM, Mathieu Gagné wrote: On 2014-08-06 7:58 PM, Robert Collins wrote: I'm astounded by this proposal - it doesn't remove the garbage collection complexity at all - it transfers it from our code - Nova - onto end users. So rather than one tested and consolidated

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][core] Expectations of core reviewers

2014-08-14 Thread Andrew Laski
On 08/14/2014 02:48 PM, Dugger, Donald D wrote: My experience with mics, no matter how good, In conference rooms is not good. You are always working hard to hear the soft spoken person who is drowned by the background noise. It’s always a strain and I don’t want to even think about doing

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Concerns around the Extensible Resource Tracker design - revert maybe?

2014-08-15 Thread Andrew Laski
On 08/14/2014 03:21 AM, Nikola Đipanov wrote: On 08/13/2014 06:05 PM, Sylvain Bauza wrote: Le 13/08/2014 12:21, Sylvain Bauza a écrit : Le 12/08/2014 22:06, Sylvain Bauza a écrit : Le 12/08/2014 18:54, Nikola Đipanov a écrit : On 08/12/2014 04:49 PM, Sylvain Bauza wrote: (sorry for

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Deprecating CONF.block_device_allocate_retries_interval

2014-08-15 Thread Andrew Laski
On 08/08/2014 08:42 AM, Nikola Đipanov wrote: On 08/06/2014 07:54 PM, Jay Pipes wrote: I bring this up on the mailing list because I think Liyi's patch offers an interesting future direction to the way that we think about our retry approach in Nova. Instead of having hard-coded or configurable

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Deprecating CONF.block_device_allocate_retries_interval

2014-08-15 Thread Andrew Laski
On 08/15/2014 11:43 AM, Matthew Booth wrote: On 15/08/14 16:12, Andrew Laski wrote: On 08/08/2014 08:42 AM, Nikola Đipanov wrote: On 08/06/2014 07:54 PM, Jay Pipes wrote: I bring this up on the mailing list because I think Liyi's patch offers an interesting future direction to the way

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][neutron][cinder] Averting the Nova crisis by splitting out virt drivers

2014-09-11 Thread Andrew Laski
On 09/10/2014 07:23 PM, Michael Still wrote: On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 8:11 AM, Jay Pipes jaypi...@gmail.com wrote: a) Sorting out the common code is already accounted for in Dan B's original proposal -- it's a prerequisite for the split. Its a big prerequisite though. I think we're talking

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Some ideas for micro-version implementation

2014-09-23 Thread Andrew Laski
On 09/23/2014 01:15 PM, Kevin L. Mitchell wrote: On Tue, 2014-09-23 at 12:09 -0400, Jay Pipes wrote: I'd like to say finally that I think there should be an OpenStack API working group whose job it is to both pull together a set of OpenStack API practices as well as evaluate new REST APIs

Re: [openstack-dev] [Oslo] First steps towards amqp 1.0

2013-12-11 Thread Andrew Laski
On 12/10/13 at 11:09am, Flavio Percoco wrote: On 09/12/13 17:37 -0500, Russell Bryant wrote: On 12/09/2013 05:16 PM, Gordon Sim wrote: On 12/09/2013 07:15 PM, Russell Bryant wrote: [...] One other pattern that can benefit from intermediated message flow is in load balancing. If the

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Future meeting times

2013-12-18 Thread Andrew Laski
+1. The current meeting time works well for me but I would attend both. On 12/18/13 at 09:29am, Russell Bryant wrote: Greetings, The weekly Nova meeting [1] has been held on Thursdays at 2100 UTC. I've been getting some requests to offer an alternative meeting time. I'd like to try out

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova][Scheduler] Will the Scheuler use Nova Objects?

2014-01-30 Thread Andrew Laski
On 01/30/14 at 04:13am, Gary Kotton wrote: Hi, I started to do the work – https://review.openstack.org/#/c/65691/. From the comments on the review it did not seem the right way to go. So I gave up on it. Sorry to not have updated. I personally think that the scheduler should use objects, the

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova][Neutron] nova-network in Icehouse and beyond

2014-01-30 Thread Andrew Laski
On 01/30/14 at 09:31am, Russell Bryant wrote: On 01/30/2014 09:13 AM, Christopher Yeoh wrote: On Fri, Jan 31, 2014 at 12:27 AM, Russell Bryant rbry...@redhat.com I can't say in any sort of confidence that I think nova-network will go away in the foreseeable future. Yes, this has an

Re: [openstack-dev] transactions in openstack REST API?

2014-02-03 Thread Andrew Laski
On 02/03/14 at 01:10pm, Chris Friesen wrote: Has anyone ever considered adding the concept of transaction IDs to the openstack REST API? I'm envisioning a way to handle long-running transactions more cleanly. For example: 1) A user sends a request to live-migrate an instance 2) Openstack

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] massive number of new errors in logs with oslo.messaging

2014-02-04 Thread Andrew Laski
On 02/04/14 at 10:39am, Dan Smith wrote: The inner exception is a thing and the outer pieces are a thing. The inner means that some instance update was attempted, but should be aborted if the instance state is not what we think it is. And looking a little closer, I think it means that the

Re: [openstack-dev] [keystone][nova] Re: Hierarchicical Multitenancy Discussion

2014-02-05 Thread Andrew Laski
On 02/05/14 at 03:30am, Vishvananda Ishaya wrote: On Feb 5, 2014, at 2:38 AM, Florent Flament florent.flament-...@cloudwatt.com wrote: Hi Vish, You're approach looks very interesting. I especially like the idea of 'walking the tree of parent projects, to construct the set of roles'. Here

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Automatic Evacuation

2014-03-03 Thread Andrew Laski
On 03/01/14 at 07:24am, Jay Lau wrote: Hey, Sorry to bring this up again. There are also some discussions here: http://markmail.org/message/5zotly4qktaf34ei You can also search [Runtime Policy] in your email list. Not sure if we can put this to Gantt and enable Gantt provide both initial

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] 'if foo' vs 'if foo is not None'

2014-03-03 Thread Andrew Laski
On 03/03/14 at 03:00pm, Matthew Booth wrote: PEP 8, under 'Programming Recommendations' recommends against implicit comparison to None. This isn't just stylistic, either: we were actually bitten by it in the VMware driver (https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1262288). The bug was hard to spot,

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Concrete Proposal for Keeping V2 API

2014-03-03 Thread Andrew Laski
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Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Concrete Proposal for Keeping V2 API

2014-03-03 Thread Andrew Laski
On 03/03/14 at 04:48pm, Jay Pipes wrote: On Mon, 2014-03-03 at 15:24 -0500, Russell Bryant wrote: On 03/03/2014 02:59 PM, Jay Pipes wrote: -1 from me. Sounds like a way to avoid badly needed change and innovation in the API. When, for example, would we be able to propose a patch that removed

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Concrete Proposal for Keeping V2 API

2014-03-03 Thread Andrew Laski
On 03/03/14 at 06:17pm, Jay Pipes wrote: On Mon, 2014-03-03 at 17:56 -0500, Andrew Laski wrote: On 03/03/14 at 04:48pm, Jay Pipes wrote: On Mon, 2014-03-03 at 15:24 -0500, Russell Bryant wrote: On 03/03/2014 02:59 PM, Jay Pipes wrote: -1 from me. Sounds like a way to avoid badly needed

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] FFE request: clean-up-legacy-block-device-mapping

2014-03-05 Thread Andrew Laski
On 03/05/14 at 09:05am, Dan Smith wrote: Why accept it? * It's low risk but needed refactoring that will make the code that has been a source of occasional bugs. * It is very low risk internal refactoring that uses code that has been in tree for some time now (BDM objects). * It has seen it's

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] FFE Request: Image Cache Aging

2014-03-05 Thread Andrew Laski
On 03/05/14 at 07:37am, Tracy Jones wrote: Hi - Please consider the image cache aging BP for FFE (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/56416/) This is the last of several patches (already merged) that implement image cache cleanup for the vmware driver. This patch solves a significant customer

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] API weekly meeting

2014-03-07 Thread Andrew Laski
On 03/07/14 at 11:15am, Christopher Yeoh wrote: Hi, I'd like to start a weekly IRC meeting for those interested in discussing Nova API issues. I think it would be a useful forum for: - People to keep up with what work is going on the API and where its headed. - Cloud providers, SDK

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] question about e41fb84 fix anti-affinity race condition on boot

2014-03-17 Thread Andrew Laski
On 03/17/14 at 01:11pm, Chris Friesen wrote: On 03/17/2014 11:59 AM, John Garbutt wrote: On 17 March 2014 17:54, John Garbutt j...@johngarbutt.com wrote: Given the scheduler split, writing that value into the nova db from the scheduler would be a step backwards, and it probably breaks lots

[openstack-dev] Scheduler meeting minutes

2013-10-15 Thread Andrew Laski
Thanks everyone for a great meeting. Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/scheduler/2013/scheduler.2013-10-15-15.01.html Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/scheduler/2013/scheduler.2013-10-15-15.01.txt Log:

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Blueprint review process

2013-10-24 Thread Andrew Laski
On 10/24/13 at 11:07am, Russell Bryant wrote: On 10/24/2013 10:52 AM, Gary Kotton wrote: On 10/24/13 4:46 PM, Dan Smith d...@danplanet.com wrote: In the last meeting we discussed an idea that I think is worth trying at least for icehouse-1 to see if we like it or not. The idea is that

Re: [openstack-dev] Remove vim modelines?

2013-10-29 Thread Andrew Laski
On 10/29/13 at 10:53am, Joe Gordon wrote: So after over 20 messages in this thread, now what? From my count we have 3 -, and 12 +1s. Is that enough for consensus? Do we move modelines lines to the bottom? Put them in every file? Or just remove them? I have no strong feeling either way on

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][scheduler] Instance Group Model and APIs - Updated document with an example request payload

2013-10-29 Thread Andrew Laski
On 10/29/13 at 04:05pm, Mike Spreitzer wrote: Alex Glikson glik...@il.ibm.com wrote on 10/29/2013 03:37:41 AM: 1. I assume that the motivation for rack-level anti-affinity is to survive a rack failure. Is this indeed the case? This is a very interesting and important scenario, but I am curious

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][scheduler]The database access in the scheduler filters

2013-11-01 Thread Andrew Laski
On 11/01/13 at 10:16am, John Garbutt wrote: Its intentional. Cells is there to split up your nodes into more manageable chunks. I don't think you mean to say that there's intentionally a performance issue. But yes there are performance issues with the filter scheduler. Because I work on a

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][api] Is this a potential issue

2013-11-12 Thread Andrew Laski
On 11/11/13 at 05:27pm, Jiang, Yunhong wrote: Resend after the HK summit, hope someone can give me hint on it. Thanks --jyh -Original Message- From: Jiang, Yunhong [mailto:yunhong.ji...@intel.com] Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2013 5:39 PM To: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Subject:

Re: [openstack-dev] [ALL] Removing generate_uuid() from uuidutils

2013-11-13 Thread Andrew Laski
On 11/13/13 at 05:48am, Gary Kotton wrote: I recall a few cycles ago having str(uuid.uuid4()) replaced by generate_uuid(). There was actually a helper function in neutron (back when it was called quantum) and it was replaced. So now we are going back… I am not in favor of this change. I'm

Re: [openstack-dev] [ALL] Removing generate_uuid() from uuidutils

2013-11-13 Thread Andrew Laski
On 11/13/13 at 12:01pm, Dolph Mathews wrote: On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 9:47 AM, John Griffith john.griff...@solidfire.comwrote: On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 7:21 AM, Andrew Laski andrew.la...@rackspace.com wrote: On 11/13/13 at 05:48am, Gary Kotton wrote: I recall a few cycles ago having str

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][object] One question to the resource tracker session

2013-11-13 Thread Andrew Laski
On 11/13/13 at 11:12pm, Jiang, Yunhong wrote: Hi, Dan Smith and all, I noticed followed statement in 'Icehouse tasks' in https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/IcehouseNovaExtensibleSchedulerMetrics convert resource tracker to objects make resoruce tracker

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][object] One question to the resource tracker session

2013-11-14 Thread Andrew Laski
On 11/14/13 at 05:37pm, Jiang, Yunhong wrote: -Original Message- From: Andrew Laski [mailto:andrew.la...@rackspace.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2013 3:22 PM To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][object] One question

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][api] Is this a potential issue

2013-11-15 Thread Andrew Laski
On 11/15/13 at 07:57pm, Isaku Yamahata wrote: On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 03:07:19PM -0500, Andrew Laski andrew.la...@rackspace.com wrote: On 11/11/13 at 05:27pm, Jiang, Yunhong wrote: Resend after the HK summit, hope someone can give me hint on it. Thanks --jyh -Original Message- From

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][api] Is this a potential issue

2013-11-15 Thread Andrew Laski
On 11/15/13 at 07:30am, Dan Smith wrote: You're not missing anything. But I think that's a bug, or at least an unexpected change in behaviour from how it used to work. If you follow instance_update() in nova.db.sqlalchemy.api just the presence of expected_task_state triggers the check. So we

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Blueprint - Disable child cell support

2013-11-18 Thread Andrew Laski
Hi, Please take a look at https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Blueprints#Creation for tips on the blueprint creation process. Blueprint reviewers are going to look at the criteria listed at https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Blueprints#Blueprint_Review_Criteria so you should make sure you address

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][api] Is this a potential issue

2013-11-18 Thread Andrew Laski
On 11/15/13 at 04:01pm, yunhong jiang wrote: On Fri, 2013-11-15 at 17:19 -0500, Andrew Laski wrote: On 11/15/13 at 07:30am, Dan Smith wrote: You're not missing anything. But I think that's a bug, or at least an unexpected change in behaviour from how it used to work. If you follow

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][heat][[keystone] RFC: introducing request identification

2013-11-21 Thread Andrew Laski
On 11/19/13 at 08:04pm, haruka tanizawa wrote: Hi stackers!! I'd like to ask for your opinions about my idea of identifying request. Challenges == We have no way to know the final result of an API request. Indeed we can continuously get the status of allocated resources, but this is

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Proposal to add Matt Riedemann to nova-core

2013-11-22 Thread Andrew Laski
+1 On 11/22/13 at 03:53pm, Russell Bryant wrote: Greetings, I would like to propose adding Matt Riedemann to the nova-core review team. Matt has been involved with nova for a long time, taking on a wide range of tasks. He writes good code. He's very engaged with the development community.

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Proposal to re-add Dan Prince to nova-core

2013-11-27 Thread Andrew Laski
+1 On 11/26/13 at 02:32pm, Russell Bryant wrote: Greetings, I would like to propose that we re-add Dan Prince to the nova-core review team. Dan Prince has been involved with Nova since early in OpenStack's history (Bexar timeframe). He was a member of the nova-core review team from May 2011

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][heat][[keystone] RFC: introducing request identification

2013-11-27 Thread Andrew Laski
On 11/22/13 at 10:14am, haruka tanizawa wrote: Thanks for your reply. I'm working on the implementation of instance-tasks-api[0] in Nova and this is what I've been moving towards so far. Yes, I know. I think that is good idea. The API will accept a string to be a part of the task but it

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Splitting up V3 API admin-actions plugin

2013-12-02 Thread Andrew Laski
On 12/02/13 at 08:38am, Russell Bryant wrote: On 12/01/2013 08:39 AM, Christopher Yeoh wrote: Hi, At the summit we agreed to split out lock/unlock, pause/unpause, suspend/unsuspend functionality out of the V3 version of admin actions into separate extensions to make it easier for deployers to

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][heat][[keystone] RFC: introducing request identification

2013-12-03 Thread Andrew Laski
-api. Sincerely, Haruka Tanizawa 2013/11/28 Andrew Laski andrew.la...@rackspace.com On 11/22/13 at 10:14am, haruka tanizawa wrote: Thanks for your reply. I'm working on the implementation of instance-tasks-api[0] in Nova and this is what I've been moving towards so far. Yes, I know. I think

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Do any hyperviors allow disk reduction as part of resize ?

2014-06-13 Thread Andrew Laski
On 06/13/2014 08:03 AM, Day, Phil wrote: Theoretically impossible to reduce disk unless you have some really nasty guest additions. That's what I thought -- but many of the drivers seem to at least partially support it based on the code, hence the question on here to find out of that is

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Nominating Ken'ichi Ohmichi for nova-core

2014-06-16 Thread Andrew Laski
+1 On 06/13/2014 06:40 PM, Michael Still wrote: Greetings, I would like to nominate Ken'ichi Ohmichi for the nova-core team. Ken'ichi has been involved with nova for a long time now. His reviews on API changes are excellent, and he's been part of the team that has driven the new API work

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] locked instances and snaphot

2014-06-17 Thread Andrew Laski
On 06/17/2014 03:03 PM, melanie witt wrote: On Jun 16, 2014, at 13:56, Michael Still mi...@stillhq.com wrote: It is certainly my belief that the lock functionality for instances is about avoiding accidental changes to the instance itself, not the contents of the instance. I personally think

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Meeting this week?

2014-06-30 Thread Andrew Laski
On 06/29/2014 08:01 PM, Michael Still wrote: Hi. The meeting this week would be on the 3rd of July, which I assume means that many people will be out of the office. Do people think its worth running the meeting or shall we give this week a miss? I will be traveling during the meeting so I'm

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Mid-cycle sprint for remote people ?

2014-07-02 Thread Andrew Laski
On 07/02/2014 06:09 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote: Sylvain Bauza wrote: Hi, I won't be able to attend the mid-cycle sprint due to a good family reason (a new baby 2.0 release expected to land by these dates), so I'm wondering if it's possible to webcast some of the sessions so people who are not

[openstack-dev] [Nova] [Spec freeze exception] Instance tasks

2014-07-18 Thread Andrew Laski
Hello everybody, I would like to request a spec proposal extension for instance tasks, described in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/86938/ . This has been a long discussed and awaited feature with a lot of support from the community. This feature has been intertwined with the fate of the

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova][Spec freeze exception] Controlled shutdown of GuestOS

2014-07-24 Thread Andrew Laski
From: Day, Phil [philip@hp.com] Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2014 9:20 AM To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions); Daniel P. Berrange Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova][Spec freeze exception] Controlled shutdown of GuestOS

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Dynamic scheduling

2014-04-10 Thread Andrew Laski
On 04/10/14 at 11:48am, Oleg Gelbukh wrote: Hello, Jay, As a fork of nova-scheduler, Gantt most likely will handle initial placement. However, even nova-scheduler now supports some runtime operations (for example, scheduling of evacuated/migrated instances). Please note that the operations

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Dynamic scheduling

2014-04-11 Thread Andrew Laski
On 04/10/14 at 11:33pm, Oleg Gelbukh wrote: Andrew, Thank you for clarification! On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 3:47 PM, Andrew Laski andrew.la...@rackspace.comwrote: The scheduler as it currently exists is a placement engine. There is sufficient complexity in the scheduler with just

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Introducing task oriented workflows

2014-06-03 Thread Andrew Laski
On 05/22/2014 08:16 PM, Nachi Ueno wrote: Hi Salvatore Thank you for your posting this. IMO, this topic shouldn't be limited for Neutron only. Users wants consistent API between OpenStack project, right? In Nova, a server has task_state, so Neutron should do same way. We're moving away

Re: [openstack-dev] question about createbackup API in nova

2014-06-04 Thread Andrew Laski
On 06/04/2014 02:56 AM, Bohai (ricky) wrote: Hi stackers, When I use the createBackup API, I found it just snapshots the root disk of the instance. For an instance with multiple cinder backend volumes, it will not snapshot them. It's a little different to the things in current createImage

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Create an instance with a custom uuid

2014-09-25 Thread Andrew Laski
On 09/25/2014 04:18 AM, Pasquale Porreca wrote: I will briefly explain our use case. This idea is related to another project to enable the network boot in OpenStack https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/pxe-boot-instance We want to make use of the extra-dhcp-opt to indicate as tftp

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Create an instance with a custom uuid

2014-09-30 Thread Andrew Laski
On 09/30/2014 06:53 AM, Pasquale Porreca wrote: Going back to my original question, I would like to know: 1) Is it acceptable to have the UUID passed from client side? In my opinion, no. This opens a door to issues we currently don't need to deal with, and use cases I don't think Nova

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] [tc] Multi-clouds integration by OpenStack cascading

2014-09-30 Thread Andrew Laski
On 09/30/2014 03:07 PM, Tim Bell wrote: -Original Message- From: John Garbutt [mailto:j...@johngarbutt.com] Sent: 30 September 2014 15:35 To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [all] [tc] Multi-clouds integration by OpenStack

Re: [openstack-dev] 2 Minute tokens

2014-09-30 Thread Andrew Laski
On 09/30/2014 05:33 PM, Adam Young wrote: On 09/30/2014 12:21 PM, Sean Dague wrote: On 09/30/2014 11:58 AM, Jay Pipes wrote: On 09/30/2014 11:37 AM, Adam Young wrote: On 09/30/2014 11:06 AM, Louis Taylor wrote: On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 10:44:51AM -0400, Adam Young wrote: What are the uses

Re: [openstack-dev] [api] API recommendation

2014-10-15 Thread Andrew Laski
On 10/15/2014 11:49 AM, Kevin L. Mitchell wrote: Now that we have an API working group forming, I'd like to kick off some discussion over one point I'd really like to see our APIs using (and I'll probably drop it in to the repo once that gets fully set up): the difference between synchronous

[openstack-dev] [Nova] Cells conversation starter

2014-10-20 Thread Andrew Laski
One of the big goals for the Kilo cycle by users and developers of the cells functionality within Nova is to get it to a point where it can be considered a first class citizen of Nova. Ultimately I think this comes down to getting it tested by default in Nova jobs, and making it easy for

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Cells conversation starter

2014-10-21 Thread Andrew Laski
On 10/21/2014 04:31 AM, Nikola Đipanov wrote: On 10/20/2014 08:00 PM, Andrew Laski wrote: One of the big goals for the Kilo cycle by users and developers of the cells functionality within Nova is to get it to a point where it can be considered a first class citizen of Nova. Ultimately I think

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Cells conversation starter

2014-10-22 Thread Andrew Laski
On 10/22/2014 12:24 AM, Tom Fifield wrote: On 22/10/14 03:07, Andrew Laski wrote: On 10/21/2014 04:31 AM, Nikola Đipanov wrote: On 10/20/2014 08:00 PM, Andrew Laski wrote: One of the big goals for the Kilo cycle by users and developers of the cells functionality within Nova is to get

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Cells conversation starter

2014-10-22 Thread Andrew Laski
On 10/22/2014 03:42 AM, Vineet Menon wrote: On 22 October 2014 06:24, Tom Fifield t...@openstack.org mailto:t...@openstack.org wrote: On 22/10/14 03:07, Andrew Laski wrote: On 10/21/2014 04:31 AM, Nikola Đipanov wrote: On 10/20/2014 08:00 PM, Andrew Laski wrote: One

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Cells conversation starter

2014-10-22 Thread Andrew Laski
. If it would be useful perhaps we could even have a cells subgroup to track progress and direction of this effort. Michael On Tue, Oct 21, 2014 at 5:00 AM, Andrew Laski andrew.la...@rackspace.com wrote: One of the big goals for the Kilo cycle by users and developers of the cells functionality

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Cells conversation starter

2014-10-23 Thread Andrew Laski
On 10/22/2014 08:11 PM, Sam Morrison wrote: On 23 Oct 2014, at 5:55 am, Andrew Laski andrew.la...@rackspace.com wrote: While I agree that N is a bit interesting, I have seen N=3 in production [central API]--[state/region1]--[state/region DC1] \-[state/region

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Cells conversation starter

2014-10-30 Thread Andrew Laski
it. If anyone would like to discuss it before then please reply here. On 10/20/2014 02:00 PM, Andrew Laski wrote: One of the big goals for the Kilo cycle by users and developers of the cells functionality within Nova is to get it to a point where it can be considered a first class citizen of Nova

[openstack-dev] [Nova][Cells] Cells subgroup and meeting times

2014-11-11 Thread Andrew Laski
We had a great discussion on cells at the summit which is captured at https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kilo-nova-cells. One of the tasks we agreed upon there was to form a subgroup to co-ordinate this effort and report progress to the Nova meeting regularly. To that end I would like to find

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova][Cells] Cells subgroup and meeting times

2014-11-17 Thread Andrew Laski
, Andrew Laski wrote: We had a great discussion on cells at the summit which is captured at https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kilo-nova-cells. One of the tasks we agreed upon there was to form a subgroup to co-ordinate this effort and report progress to the Nova meeting regularly. To that end I would

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] v3 integrated tests taking a lot longer?

2014-11-19 Thread Andrew Laski
On 11/19/2014 04:16 PM, Jay Pipes wrote: On 11/19/2014 04:00 PM, Matt Riedemann wrote: On 11/19/2014 9:40 AM, Jay Pipes wrote: On 11/18/2014 06:48 PM, Matt Riedemann wrote: I just started noticing today that the v3 integrated api samples tests seem to be taking a lot longer than the other

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Handling soft delete for instance rows in a new cells database

2014-11-26 Thread Andrew Laski
On 11/25/2014 11:54 AM, Solly Ross wrote: I can't comment on other projects, but Nova definitely needs the soft delete in the main nova database. Perhaps not for every table, but there is definitely code in the code base which uses it right now. Search for read_deleted=True if you're curious.

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Handling soft delete for instance rows in a new cells database

2014-11-26 Thread Andrew Laski
to delete it before the instance was deleted. Belmiro On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 4:40 PM, Andrew Laski andrew.la...@rackspace.com mailto:andrew.la...@rackspace.com wrote: On 11/25/2014 11:54 AM, Solly Ross wrote: I can't comment on other projects, but Nova definitely

[openstack-dev] [Nova][Heat] Where does Shelving belong

2013-06-25 Thread Andrew Laski
I have a couple of reviews up to introduce the concept of shelving an instance into Nova. The question has been raised as to whether or not this belongs in Nova, or more rightly belongs in Heat. The blueprint for this feature can be found at

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova][Heat] Where does Shelving belong

2013-06-25 Thread Andrew Laski
On 06/25/13 at 09:42am, Joe Gordon wrote: On Tue, Jun 25, 2013 at 7:22 AM, Andrew Laski andrew.la...@rackspace.comwrote: I have a couple of reviews up to introduce the concept of shelving an instance into Nova. The question has been raised as to whether or not this belongs in Nova, or more

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Nominating John Garbutt for nova-core

2013-06-26 Thread Andrew Laski
+1 On 06/26/13 at 11:09am, Russell Bryant wrote: Greetings, I would like to nominate John Garbutt for the nova-core team. John has been involved with nova for a long time now. He's primarily known for his great work on the xenapi driver. However, he has been contributing and reviewing in

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Nova API extensions NOT to be ported to v3

2013-06-28 Thread Andrew Laski
On 06/28/13 at 10:01pm, Christopher Yeoh wrote: Hi, The following is a list of API extensions for which there are no plans to port. Please shout if you think any of them needs to be! baremetal_nodes.py os_networks.py networks_associate.py os_tenant_networks.py virtual_interfaces.py

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Nova API extensions NOT to be ported to v3

2013-07-01 Thread Andrew Laski
On 07/01/13 at 11:23am, Mauro S M Rodrigues wrote: One more though, about os-multiple-create: I was also thinking to remove it, I don't see any real advantage to use it since it doesn't offer any kind of flexibility like chose different flavors, images and other attributes. So anyone creating

Re: [openstack-dev] cells checks on patches

2013-07-15 Thread Andrew Laski
I will also be working to help get cells passing tests. I just setup a blueprint on the Nova side for this, https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/cells-gating. On 07/13/13 at 05:00pm, Chris Behrens wrote: I can make a commitment to help getting cells passing. Basically, I'd like to

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Ceilometer vs. Nova internal metrics collector for scheduling (was: New DB column or new DB table?)

2013-07-19 Thread Andrew Laski
On 07/19/13 at 12:08pm, Murray, Paul (HP Cloud Services) wrote: Hi Sean, Do you think the existing static allocators should be migrated to going through ceilometer - or do you see that as different? Ignoring backward compatibility. It makes sense to keep some things in Nova, in order to

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Proposal to add Nikola Đipanov to nova-core

2013-08-01 Thread Andrew Laski
+1 On 07/31/13 at 03:10pm, Russell Bryant wrote: Greetings, I propose that we add Nikola Đipanov to the nova-core team [1]. Nikola has been actively contributing to nova for a while now, both in code and reviews. He provides high quality reviews. so I think he would make a good addition to

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Hypervisor Version Support

2013-08-07 Thread Andrew Laski
On 08/07/13 at 07:38am, Kaushik Chandrashekar wrote: Hi All, We are working on adding hypervisors version support for xen, https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/xen-support-for-hypervisor-versions The initial design is, 1. The image would have a property with hypervisor version

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Hypervisor Version Support

2013-08-07 Thread Andrew Laski
On 08/07/13 at 08:17am, Shawn Hartsock wrote: - Original Message - From: Russell Bryant rbry...@redhat.com To: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Sent: Wednesday, August 7, 2013 10:36:04 AM Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Hypervisor Version Support On 08/07/2013 10:14 AM, Andrew

[openstack-dev] [Nova] Proposal to revert per-user-quotas

2013-08-20 Thread Andrew Laski
The patch in question (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/28232/24) adds the ability to track quota usage on a per user basis within a project. I have run into two issues with it so far: the db migration is incomplete and leaves the data in a bad state, and the sync methods used during quota

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Proposal to revert per-user-quotas

2013-08-20 Thread Andrew Laski
that these types of accidental bugs are avoided. 2013/8/20 Andrew Laski andrew.la...@rackspace.com The patch in question (https://review.openstack.org/**#/c/28232/24https://review.openstack.org/#/c/28232/24) adds the ability to track quota usage on a per user basis within a project. I have run

[openstack-dev] [Nova] sqlalchemy-migrate vs alembic for new database

2014-12-05 Thread Andrew Laski
The cells v2 effort is going to be introducing a new database into Nova. This has been an opportunity to rethink and approach a few things differently, including how we should handle migrations. There have been discussions for a long time now about switching over to alembic for migrations so

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Kilo specs review day

2014-12-11 Thread Andrew Laski
On 12/10/2014 04:41 PM, Michael Still wrote: Hi, at the design summit we said that we would not approve specifications after the kilo-1 deadline, which is 18 December. Unfortunately, we’ve had a lot of specifications proposed this cycle (166 to my count), and haven’t kept up with the review

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] [tc] [PTL] Cascading vs. Cells – summit recap and move forward

2014-12-11 Thread Andrew Laski
On 12/11/2014 04:02 AM, joehuang wrote: Hello, Russell, Many thanks for your reply. See inline comments. -Original Message- From: Russell Bryant [mailto:rbry...@redhat.com] Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2014 5:22 AM To: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Subject: Re: [openstack-dev]

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] [tc] [PTL] Cascading vs. Cells – summit recap and move forward

2014-12-12 Thread Andrew Laski
On 12/12/2014 09:50 AM, Russell Bryant wrote: On 12/11/2014 12:55 PM, Andrew Laski wrote: Cells can handle a single API on top of globally distributed DCs. I have spoken with a group that is doing exactly that. But it requires that the API is a trusted part of the OpenStack deployments

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] nova-manage db archive_deleted_rows broken

2014-12-16 Thread Andrew Laski
On 12/12/2014 08:54 PM, melanie witt wrote: Hi everybody, At some point, our db archiving functionality got broken because there was a change to stop ever deleting instance system metadata [1]. For those unfamiliar, the 'nova-manage db archive_deleted_rows' is the thing that moves all

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][libvirt] RFC: ensuring live migration ends

2015-02-02 Thread Andrew Laski
On 02/02/2015 05:58 AM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: On Sun, Feb 01, 2015 at 11:20:08AM -0800, Noel Burton-Krahn wrote: Thanks for bringing this up, Daniel. I don't think it makes sense to have a timeout on live migration, but operators should be able to cancel it, just like any other unbounded

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][libvirt] RFC: ensuring live migration ends

2015-02-02 Thread Andrew Laski
On 02/02/2015 11:26 AM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: On Mon, Feb 02, 2015 at 11:19:45AM -0500, Andrew Laski wrote: On 02/02/2015 05:58 AM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: On Sun, Feb 01, 2015 at 11:20:08AM -0800, Noel Burton-Krahn wrote: Thanks for bringing this up, Daniel. I don't think it makes

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Networks are not cleaned up in build failure

2015-01-14 Thread Andrew Laski
On 01/14/2015 12:57 PM, Murray, Paul (HP Cloud) wrote: Hi All, I recently experienced failures getting images from Glance while spawning instances. This step comes after building the networks in the guild sequence. When the Glance failure occurred the instance was cleaned up and

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Networks are not cleaned up in build failure

2015-01-15 Thread Andrew Laski
On 01/15/2015 09:33 AM, Brian Haley wrote: On 01/14/2015 02:15 PM, Andrew Laski wrote: On 01/14/2015 12:57 PM, Murray, Paul (HP Cloud) wrote: Hi All, I recently experienced failures getting images from Glance while spawning instances. This step comes after building the networks in the guild

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Nominating Melanie Witt for python-novaclient-core

2015-01-27 Thread Andrew Laski
+1 From: Michael Still [mi...@stillhq.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2015 5:41 PM To: OpenStack Development Mailing List Subject: [openstack-dev] [nova] Nominating Melanie Witt for python-novaclient-core Greetings, I would like to nominate Melanie

[openstack-dev] [Nova] Requesting spec freeze exception for cells-instance-migration

2015-01-13 Thread Andrew Laski
https://review.openstack.org/#/c/136490/ This is part of the infrastructure buildup for Cells v2 which is priority work in Kilo. It is needed to get closer to a working cellsv2 prototype. This work is focused on methods for populating the instance_mapping table with data about current

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] will instance action deprecate in feature

2015-03-16 Thread Andrew Laski
On 03/15/2015 10:26 AM, Lingxian Kong wrote: 2015-03-11 15:57 GMT+08:00 Qiao, Liyong liyong.q...@intel.com: Hi all will instance action deprecate in feature since we have notify mechanism now? Currently, nova have instance action and instance event action to record specify actions performed

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][api] Microversions. And why do we need API extensions for new API functionality?

2015-03-10 Thread Andrew Laski
On 03/09/2015 06:04 PM, melanie witt wrote: On Mar 9, 2015, at 13:14, Sean Dague s...@dague.net wrote: So possibly another way to think about this is our prior signaling of what was supported by Nova was signaled by the extension list. Our code was refactored into a way that supported

[openstack-dev] [Nova][cells] Meeting time change

2015-03-26 Thread Andrew Laski
Daylight saving time has made it so that the 2200UTC meeting time is fairly inconvenient for a few of us and the 2100UTC timeslot is open so we're going to shift the meeting up by an hour. I have already spoken with many of the people in regular attendance at the meetings so this should come

[openstack-dev] [Nova] Reviewers please watch the check-tempest-dsvm-cells job now

2015-04-21 Thread Andrew Laski
It's been a long road but due to the hard work of bauzas and melwitt the cells Tempest check job should now be green for changes that don't break cells. The job has been red for a long time so it's likely that people don't think about it much. I would ask that until we can get the confidence

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Proposal to add Melanie Witt to nova-core

2015-04-30 Thread Andrew Laski
+1. She is an excellent reviewer, and has in many other ways greatly benefited the Nova project. On 04/30/15 at 12:30pm, John Garbutt wrote: Hi, I propose we add Melanie to nova-core. She has been consistently doing great quality code reviews[1], alongside a wide array of other really

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][all] Architecture Diagrams in ascii art?

2015-05-11 Thread Andrew Laski
On 05/11/15 at 02:57pm, Joe Gordon wrote: When learning about how a project works one of the first things I look for is a brief architecture description along with a diagram. For most OpenStack projects, all I can find is a bunch of random third party slides and diagrams. Most Individual

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