Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO][heat] a small experiment with Ansible in TripleO

2014-08-11 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Steve Baker's message of 2014-08-10 15:33:26 -0700: On 02/08/14 04:07, Allison Randal wrote: A few of us have been independently experimenting with Ansible as a backend for TripleO, and have just decided to try experimenting together. I've chatted with Robert, and he says that

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO][heat] a small experiment with Ansible in TripleO

2014-08-11 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Zane Bitter's message of 2014-08-11 08:16:56 -0700: On 11/08/14 10:46, Clint Byrum wrote: Right now we're stuck with an update that just doesn't work. It isn't just about update-failure-recovery, which is coming along nicely, but it is also about the lack of signals to control

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO][heat] a small experiment with Ansible in TripleO

2014-08-11 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Steven Hardy's message of 2014-08-11 11:40:07 -0700: On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 11:20:50AM -0700, Clint Byrum wrote: Excerpts from Zane Bitter's message of 2014-08-11 08:16:56 -0700: On 11/08/14 10:46, Clint Byrum wrote: Right now we're stuck with an update that just doesn't

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO][heat] a small experiment with Ansible in TripleO

2014-08-11 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Zane Bitter's message of 2014-08-11 13:35:44 -0700: On 11/08/14 14:49, Clint Byrum wrote: Excerpts from Steven Hardy's message of 2014-08-11 11:40:07 -0700: On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 11:20:50AM -0700, Clint Byrum wrote: Excerpts from Zane Bitter's message of 2014-08-11 08:16:56

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] The future of the integrated release

2014-08-13 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Thierry Carrez's message of 2014-08-13 02:54:58 -0700: Rochelle.RochelleGrober wrote: [...] So, with all that prologue, here is what I propose (and please consider proposing your improvements/changes to it). I would like to see for Kilo: - IRC meetings and mailing list

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] fix poor tarball support in source-repositories

2014-08-15 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Brownell, Jonathan C (Corvallis)'s message of 2014-08-15 08:11:18 -0700: The current DIB element support for downloading tarballs via source-repository allows an entry in the following form: name tar targetdir url Today, this feature is currently used only by the mysql DIB

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] fix poor tarball support in source-repositories

2014-08-16 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Jyoti Ranjan's message of 2014-08-16 00:57:52 -0700: We will have to be little bit cautious in using glob because of its inherent usage pattern. For e.g. the file starting with . will not get matched. That is a separate bug, but I think the answer to that is to use rsync

Re: [openstack-dev] Time to Samba! :-)

2014-08-16 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Martinx - ジェームズ's message of 2014-08-16 12:03:20 -0700: Hey Stackers, I'm wondering here... Samba4 is pretty solid (up coming 4.2 rocks), I'm using it on a daily basis as an AD DC controller, for both Windows and Linux Instances! With replication, file system ACLs - cifs,

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] The future of the integrated release

2014-08-17 Thread Clint Byrum
Here's why folk are questioning Ceilometer: Nova is a set of tools to abstract virtualization implementations. Neutron is a set of tools to abstract SDN/NFV implementations. Cinder is a set of tools to abstract block-device implementations. Trove is a set of tools to simplify consumption of

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] The future of the integrated release

2014-08-20 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Robert Collins's message of 2014-08-18 23:41:20 -0700: On 18 August 2014 09:32, Clint Byrum cl...@fewbar.com wrote: I can see your perspective but I don't think its internally consistent... Here's why folk are questioning Ceilometer: Nova is a set of tools to abstract

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] The future of the integrated release

2014-08-20 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Jay Pipes's message of 2014-08-20 14:53:22 -0700: On 08/20/2014 05:06 PM, Chris Friesen wrote: On 08/20/2014 07:21 AM, Jay Pipes wrote: Hi Thierry, thanks for the reply. Comments inline. :) On 08/20/2014 06:32 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote: If we want to follow your model, we

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] The future of the integrated release

2014-08-21 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Duncan Thomas's message of 2014-08-21 09:21:06 -0700: On 21 August 2014 14:27, Jay Pipes jaypi...@gmail.com wrote: Specifically for Triple-O, by making the Deployment program == Triple-O, the TC has picked the disk-image-based deployment of an undercloud design as The

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] The future of the integrated release

2014-08-21 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from David Kranz's message of 2014-08-21 12:45:05 -0700: On 08/21/2014 02:39 PM, gordon chung wrote: The point I've been making is that by the TC continuing to bless only the Ceilometer project as the OpenStack Way of Metering, I think we do a disservice to our users by

Re: [openstack-dev] [Glance][Heat] Murano split dsicussion

2014-08-21 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Georgy Okrokvertskhov's message of 2014-08-20 13:14:28 -0700: During last Atlanta summit there were couple discussions about Application Catalog and Application space projects in OpenStack. These cross-project discussions occurred as a result of Murano incubation request [1]

Re: [openstack-dev] [Glance][Heat] Murano split dsicussion

2014-08-22 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Angus Salkeld's message of 2014-08-21 20:14:12 -0700: On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 12:34 PM, Clint Byrum cl...@fewbar.com wrote: Excerpts from Georgy Okrokvertskhov's message of 2014-08-20 13:14:28 -0700: During last Atlanta summit there were couple discussions about Application

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] The future of the integrated release

2014-08-22 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Michael Chapman's message of 2014-08-21 23:30:44 -0700: On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 2:57 AM, Jay Pipes jaypi...@gmail.com wrote: On 08/19/2014 11:28 PM, Robert Collins wrote: On 20 August 2014 02:37, Jay Pipes jaypi...@gmail.com wrote: ... I'd like to see more unification

[openstack-dev] [Ironic] [TripleO] How to gracefully quiesce a box?

2014-08-22 Thread Clint Byrum
It has been brought to my attention that Ironic uses the biggest hammer in the IPMI toolbox to control chassis power: https://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/ironic/tree/ironic/drivers/modules/ipminative.py#n142 Which is ret = ipmicmd.set_power('off', wait) This is the most abrupt form,

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ironic] [TripleO] How to gracefully quiesce a box?

2014-08-22 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Jay Pipes's message of 2014-08-22 11:16:05 -0700: On 08/22/2014 01:48 PM, Clint Byrum wrote: It has been brought to my attention that Ironic uses the biggest hammer in the IPMI toolbox to control chassis power: https://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/ironic/tree/ironic

Re: [openstack-dev] [Keystone][Marconi][Heat] Creating accounts in Keystone

2014-08-23 Thread Clint Byrum
I don't know how Zaqar does its magic, but I'd love to see simple signed URLs rather than users/passwords. This would work for Heat as well. That way we only have to pass in a single predictably formatted string. Excerpts from Zane Bitter's message of 2014-08-22 14:35:38 -0700: Here's an

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] [ptls] The Czar system, or how to scale PTLs

2014-08-23 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Dolph Mathews's message of 2014-08-22 09:45:37 -0700: On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 11:32 AM, Zane Bitter zbit...@redhat.com wrote: On 22/08/14 11:19, Thierry Carrez wrote: Zane Bitter wrote: On 22/08/14 08:33, Thierry Carrez wrote: We also still need someone to have the

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat] heat.conf.sample is not up to date

2014-08-24 Thread Clint Byrum
Guessing this is due to the new tox feature which randomizes python's hash seed. Excerpts from Mike Spreitzer's message of 2014-08-24 00:10:42 -0700: What is going on with this? If I do a fresh clone of heat and run `tox -epep8` then I get that complaint. If I then run the recommended

Re: [openstack-dev] [qa][all][Heat] Packaging of functional tests

2014-08-26 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Steve Baker's message of 2014-08-26 14:25:46 -0700: On 27/08/14 03:18, David Kranz wrote: On 08/26/2014 10:14 AM, Zane Bitter wrote: Steve Baker has started the process of moving Heat tests out of the Tempest repository and into the Heat repository, and we're looking for

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] Heat Juno Mid-cycle Meetup report

2014-08-27 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Zane Bitter's message of 2014-08-27 08:41:29 -0700: On 27/08/14 11:04, Steven Hardy wrote: On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 07:54:41PM +0530, Jyoti Ranjan wrote: I am little bit skeptical about using Swift for this use case because of its eventual consistency issue. I am not

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] Heat Juno Mid-cycle Meetup report

2014-08-27 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Steven Hardy's message of 2014-08-27 10:08:36 -0700: On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 09:40:31AM -0700, Clint Byrum wrote: Excerpts from Zane Bitter's message of 2014-08-27 08:41:29 -0700: On 27/08/14 11:04, Steven Hardy wrote: On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 07:54:41PM +0530, Jyoti Ranjan

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Design Summit reloaded

2014-08-27 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Thierry Carrez's message of 2014-08-27 05:51:55 -0700: Hi everyone, I've been thinking about what changes we can bring to the Design Summit format to make it more productive. I've heard the feedback from the mid-cycle meetups and would like to apply some of those ideas for

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Design Summit reloaded

2014-08-27 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Sean Dague's message of 2014-08-27 06:26:38 -0700: On 08/27/2014 08:51 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote: Hi everyone, I've been thinking about what changes we can bring to the Design Summit format to make it more productive. I've heard the feedback from the mid-cycle meetups and

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Design Summit reloaded

2014-08-27 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Anita Kuno's message of 2014-08-27 13:48:25 -0700: On 08/27/2014 02:46 PM, John Griffith wrote: On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 9:25 AM, Flavio Percoco fla...@redhat.com wrote: On 08/27/2014 03:26 PM, Sean Dague wrote: On 08/27/2014 08:51 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote: Hi everyone,

Re: [openstack-dev] [Keystone][Marconi][Heat] Creating accounts in Keystone

2014-08-27 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Adam Young's message of 2014-08-24 20:17:34 -0700: On 08/23/2014 02:01 AM, Clint Byrum wrote: I don't know how Zaqar does its magic, but I'd love to see simple signed URLs rather than users/passwords. This would work for Heat as well. That way we only have to pass in a single

Re: [openstack-dev] [Spam] Re: [Openstack][TripleO] [Ironic] What if undercloud machines down, can we reboot overcloud machines?

2014-08-28 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Jyoti Ranjan's message of 2014-08-27 21:20:19 -0700: I do agree but it create an extra requirement for Undercloud if we high availability is important criteria. Because of this, undercloud has to be there 24x7, 365 days and to make it available we need to have HA for this also.

Re: [openstack-dev] [Zaqar] Comments on the concerns arose during the TC meeting

2014-09-04 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Flavio Percoco's message of 2014-09-04 00:08:47 -0700: Greetings, Last Tuesday the TC held the first graduation review for Zaqar. During the meeting some concerns arose. I've listed those concerns below with some comments hoping that it will help starting a discussion before

Re: [openstack-dev] [Zaqar] Comments on the concerns arose during the TC meeting

2014-09-04 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Flavio Percoco's message of 2014-09-04 06:01:45 -0700: On 09/04/2014 02:14 PM, Sean Dague wrote: On 09/04/2014 03:08 AM, Flavio Percoco wrote: Greetings, Last Tuesday the TC held the first graduation review for Zaqar. During the meeting some concerns arose. I've listed

Re: [openstack-dev] [Zaqar] Comments on the concerns arose during the TC meeting

2014-09-04 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Flavio Percoco's message of 2014-09-04 02:11:15 -0700: Hey Clint, Thanks for reading, some comments in-line: On 09/04/2014 10:30 AM, Clint Byrum wrote: Excerpts from Flavio Percoco's message of 2014-09-04 00:08:47 -0700: [snip] - Concern on should we really reinvent

Re: [openstack-dev] memory usage in devstack-gate (the oom-killer strikes again)

2014-09-08 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Joe Gordon's message of 2014-09-08 15:24:29 -0700: Hi All, We have recently started seeing assorted memory issues in the gate including the oom-killer [0] and libvirt throwing memory errors [1]. Luckily we run ps and dstat on every devstack run so we have some insight into why

Re: [openstack-dev] [Zaqar] Comments on the concerns arose during the TC meeting

2014-09-09 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Samuel Merritt's message of 2014-09-09 16:12:09 -0700: On 9/9/14, 12:03 PM, Monty Taylor wrote: On 09/04/2014 01:30 AM, Clint Byrum wrote: Excerpts from Flavio Percoco's message of 2014-09-04 00:08:47 -0700: Greetings, Last Tuesday the TC held the first graduation review

Re: [openstack-dev] [Zaqar] Comments on the concerns arose during the TC meeting

2014-09-09 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Devananda van der Veen's message of 2014-09-09 16:47:27 -0700: On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 4:12 PM, Samuel Merritt s...@swiftstack.com wrote: On 9/9/14, 12:03 PM, Monty Taylor wrote: [snip] So which is it? Because it sounds like to me it's a thing that actually does NOT need to

Re: [openstack-dev] [Zaqar] Comments on the concerns arose during the TC meeting

2014-09-10 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Samuel Merritt's message of 2014-09-09 19:04:58 -0700: On 9/9/14, 4:47 PM, Devananda van der Veen wrote: On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 4:12 PM, Samuel Merritt s...@swiftstack.com wrote: On 9/9/14, 12:03 PM, Monty Taylor wrote: [snip] So which is it? Because it sounds like to me

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] convergence flow diagrams

2014-09-10 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Angus Salkeld's message of 2014-09-08 17:15:04 -0700: On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 11:22 PM, Tyagi, Ishant ishant.ty...@hp.com wrote: Hi All, As per the heat mid cycle meetup whiteboard, we have created the flowchart and sequence diagram for the convergence . Can you please

Re: [openstack-dev] [Zaqar] Zaqar graduation (round 2) [was: Comments on the concerns arose during the TC meeting]

2014-09-10 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Gordon Sim's message of 2014-09-10 06:18:52 -0700: On 09/10/2014 09:58 AM, Flavio Percoco wrote: To clarify the doubts of what Zaqar is or it's not, let me quote what's written in the project's overview section[0]: Zaqar is a multi-tenant cloud messaging service for web

Re: [openstack-dev] [Zaqar] Zaqar graduation (round 2) [was: Comments on the concerns arose during the TC meeting]

2014-09-11 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Flavio Percoco's message of 2014-09-11 04:14:30 -0700: On 09/10/2014 03:45 PM, Gordon Sim wrote: On 09/10/2014 01:51 PM, Thierry Carrez wrote: I think we do need, as Samuel puts it, some sort of durable message-broker/queue-server thing. It's a basic application building

Re: [openstack-dev] [Zaqar] Comments on the concerns arose during the TC meeting

2014-09-11 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Zane Bitter's message of 2014-09-11 15:21:26 -0700: On 09/09/14 19:56, Clint Byrum wrote: Excerpts from Samuel Merritt's message of 2014-09-09 16:12:09 -0700: On 9/9/14, 12:03 PM, Monty Taylor wrote: On 09/04/2014 01:30 AM, Clint Byrum wrote: Excerpts from Flavio Percoco's

Re: [openstack-dev] [Zaqar] Zaqar graduation (round 2) [was: Comments on the concerns arose during the TC meeting]

2014-09-12 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Mark McLoughlin's message of 2014-09-12 03:27:42 -0700: On Wed, 2014-09-10 at 14:51 +0200, Thierry Carrez wrote: Flavio Percoco wrote: [...] Based on the feedback from the meeting[3], the current main concern is: - Do we need a messaging service with a feature-set

Re: [openstack-dev] [Zaqar] Comments on the concerns arose during the TC meeting

2014-09-12 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Flavio Percoco's message of 2014-09-12 00:22:35 -0700: On 09/12/2014 03:29 AM, Clint Byrum wrote: Excerpts from Zane Bitter's message of 2014-09-11 15:21:26 -0700: On 09/09/14 19:56, Clint Byrum wrote: Excerpts from Samuel Merritt's message of 2014-09-09 16:12:09 -0700: On 9

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] Defining what is a SupportStatus version

2014-09-14 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Gauvain Pocentek's message of 2014-09-04 22:29:05 -0700: Hi, A bit of background: I'm working on the publication of the HOT resources reference on docs.openstack.org. This book is mostly autogenerated from the heat source code, using the sphinx XML output. To avoid

Re: [openstack-dev] [tripleo][heat][ironic] Heat Ironic resources and ready state orchestration

2014-09-15 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from James Slagle's message of 2014-09-15 08:15:21 -0700: On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 7:44 AM, Steven Hardy sha...@redhat.com wrote: All, Starting this thread as a follow-up to a strongly negative reaction by the Ironic PTL to my patches[1] adding initial Heat-Ironic integration, and

Re: [openstack-dev] [Zaqar] Zaqar graduation (round 2) [was: Comments on the concerns arose during the TC meeting]

2014-09-15 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Flavio Percoco's message of 2014-09-15 00:57:05 -0700: On 09/12/2014 07:13 PM, Clint Byrum wrote: Excerpts from Thierry Carrez's message of 2014-09-12 02:16:42 -0700: Clint Byrum wrote: Excerpts from Flavio Percoco's message of 2014-09-11 04:14:30 -0700: Is Zaqar being

Re: [openstack-dev] [tripleo][heat][ironic] Heat Ironic resources and ready state orchestration

2014-09-15 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Steven Hardy's message of 2014-09-15 10:10:05 -0700: On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 09:50:24AM -0700, Clint Byrum wrote: Excerpts from Steven Hardy's message of 2014-09-15 04:44:24 -0700: All, Starting this thread as a follow-up to a strongly negative reaction by the Ironic

Re: [openstack-dev] [Zaqar] Zaqar graduation (round 2) [was: Comments on the concerns arose during the TC meeting]

2014-09-15 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Zane Bitter's message of 2014-09-15 12:05:09 -0700: On 15/09/14 13:28, Clint Byrum wrote: Excerpts from Flavio Percoco's message of 2014-09-15 00:57:05 -0700: On 09/12/2014 07:13 PM, Clint Byrum wrote: Excerpts from Thierry Carrez's message of 2014-09-12 02:16:42 -0700

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] Defining what is a SupportStatus version

2014-09-15 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Zane Bitter's message of 2014-09-15 09:31:33 -0700: On 14/09/14 11:09, Clint Byrum wrote: Excerpts from Gauvain Pocentek's message of 2014-09-04 22:29:05 -0700: Hi, A bit of background: I'm working on the publication of the HOT resources reference on docs.openstack.org

Re: [openstack-dev] [glance][all] Help with interpreting the log level guidelines

2014-09-15 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Sean Dague's message of 2014-09-15 16:02:04 -0700: On 09/15/2014 07:00 PM, Mark Washenberger wrote: Hi there logging experts, We've recently had a little disagreement in the glance team about the appropriate log levels for http requests that end up failing due to user

Re: [openstack-dev] Please do *NOT* use vendorized versions of anything (here: glanceclient using requests.packages.urllib3)

2014-09-17 Thread Clint Byrum
This is where Debian's one urllib3 to rule them all model fails in a modern fast paced world. Debian is arguably doing the right thing by pushing everyone to use one API, and one library, so that when that one library is found to be vulnerable to security problems, one update covers everyone.

Re: [openstack-dev] Please do *NOT* use vendorized versions of anything (here: glanceclient using requests.packages.urllib3)

2014-09-17 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Davanum Srinivas's message of 2014-09-17 10:15:29 -0700: I was trying request-ifying oslo.vmware and ran into this as well: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/121956/ And we don't seem to have urllib3 in global-requirements either. Should we do that first? Honestly, after

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat][nova] VM restarting on host failure in convergence

2014-09-17 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Jastrzebski, Michal's message of 2014-09-17 06:03:06 -0700: All, Currently OpenStack does not have a built-in HA mechanism for tenant instances which could restore virtual machines in case of a host failure. Openstack assumes every app is designed for failure and can handle

Re: [openstack-dev] [tripleo] Adding hp1 back running tripleo CI

2014-09-17 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Derek Higgins's message of 2014-09-17 06:53:25 -0700: On 15/09/14 22:37, Gregory Haynes wrote: This is a total shot in the dark, but a couple of us ran into issues with the Ubuntu Trusty kernel (I know I hit it on HP hardware) that was causing severely degraded performance for

Re: [openstack-dev] Please do *NOT* use vendorized versions of anything (here: glanceclient using requests.packages.urllib3)

2014-09-18 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Donald Stufft's message of 2014-09-18 04:58:06 -0700: On Sep 18, 2014, at 7:54 AM, Thomas Goirand z...@debian.org wrote: Linux distributions are not the end be all of distribution models and they don’t get to dictate to upstream. Well, distributions is where the

Re: [openstack-dev] [Zaqar] Zaqar and SQS Properties of Distributed Queues

2014-09-18 Thread Clint Byrum
Great job highlighting what our friends over at Amazon are doing. It's clear from these snippets, and a few other pieces of documentation for SQS I've read, that the Amazon team approached SQS from a _massive_ scaling perspective. I think what may be forcing a lot of this frustration with Zaqar

Re: [openstack-dev] Please do *NOT* use vendorized versions of anything (here: glanceclient using requests.packages.urllib3)

2014-09-18 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Donald Stufft's message of 2014-09-18 07:30:27 -0700: On Sep 18, 2014, at 10:18 AM, Clint Byrum cl...@fewbar.com wrote: Excerpts from Donald Stufft's message of 2014-09-18 04:58:06 -0700: On Sep 18, 2014, at 7:54 AM, Thomas Goirand z...@debian.org wrote: Linux

Re: [openstack-dev] Please do *NOT* use vendorized versions of anything (here: glanceclient using requests.packages.urllib3)

2014-09-18 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Ian Cordasco's message of 2014-09-18 07:35:10 -0700: On 9/18/14, 9:18 AM, Clint Byrum cl...@fewbar.com wrote: Excerpts from Donald Stufft's message of 2014-09-18 04:58:06 -0700: On Sep 18, 2014, at 7:54 AM, Thomas Goirand z...@debian.org wrote: Linux

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Expand resource name allowed characters

2014-09-18 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Christopher Yeoh's message of 2014-09-18 16:57:12 -0700: On Thu, 18 Sep 2014 12:12:28 -0400 Sean Dague s...@dague.net wrote: When we can return the json-schema to user in the future, can we say that means API accepting utf8 or utf8mb4 is discoverable? If it is

Re: [openstack-dev] [Zaqar] Zaqar and SQS Properties of Distributed Queues

2014-09-19 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Eoghan Glynn's message of 2014-09-19 04:23:55 -0700: Hi All, My understanding of Zaqar is that it's like SQS. SQS uses distributed queues, which have a few unusual properties [0]: Message Order Amazon SQS makes a best effort to preserve order in messages, but

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat][Zaqar] Integration plan moving forward

2014-09-19 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Flavio Percoco's message of 2014-09-18 02:07:09 -0700: Greetings, If I recall correctly, Heat was planning to adopt Zaqar regardless of the result of the graduation attempt (please correct me if I'm wrong). Based on this assumption, I'd like to start working on a plan forward

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat][Zaqar] Integration plan moving forward

2014-09-19 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Flavio Percoco's message of 2014-09-19 02:37:08 -0700: On 09/18/2014 11:51 AM, Angus Salkeld wrote: On 18/09/2014 7:11 PM, Flavio Percoco fla...@redhat.com mailto:fla...@redhat.com wrote: Greetings, If I recall correctly, Heat was planning to adopt Zaqar regardless of

Re: [openstack-dev] Please do *NOT* use vendorized versions of anything (here: glanceclient using requests.packages.urllib3)

2014-09-19 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Ian Cordasco's message of 2014-09-18 10:33:04 -0700: On 9/18/14, 11:29 AM, Clint Byrum cl...@fewbar.com wrote: Excerpts from Donald Stufft's message of 2014-09-18 07:30:27 -0700: On Sep 18, 2014, at 10:18 AM, Clint Byrum cl...@fewbar.com wrote: Excerpts from Donald

Re: [openstack-dev] Oslo messaging vs zaqar

2014-09-22 Thread Clint Byrum
Geoff, do you expect all of our users to write all of their messaging code in Python? oslo.messaging is a _python_ library. Zaqar is a service with a REST API -- accessible to any application. As Zane's sarcastic reply implied, these are as related as sharks are to tornados. Could they be

Re: [openstack-dev] [Zaqar] Zaqar and SQS Properties of Distributed Queues

2014-09-22 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Joe Gordon's message of 2014-09-22 19:04:03 -0700: On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 5:47 PM, Zane Bitter zbit...@redhat.com wrote: On 22/09/14 17:06, Joe Gordon wrote: On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 9:58 AM, Zane Bitter zbit...@redhat.com wrote: On 22/09/14 10:11, Gordon Sim wrote:

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] Question regarding Stack updates and templates

2014-09-22 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Angus Salkeld's message of 2014-09-22 20:31:46 -0700: On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 1:04 AM, Anant Patil anant.pa...@hp.com wrote: Hi, In convergence, we discuss about having concurrent updates to a stack. I wanted to know if it is safe to assume that the an update will be a

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] Convergence: Backing up template instead of stack

2014-09-22 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Angus Salkeld's message of 2014-09-22 20:15:43 -0700: On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 1:09 AM, Anant Patil anant.pa...@hp.com wrote: Hi, One of the steps in the direction of convergence is to enable Heat engine to handle concurrent stack operations. The main convergence spec

Re: [openstack-dev] Oslo messaging vs zaqar

2014-09-22 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Geoff O'Callaghan's message of 2014-09-22 17:30:47 -0700: On 23/09/2014 1:59 AM, Clint Byrum cl...@fewbar.com wrote: Geoff, do you expect all of our users to write all of their messaging code in Python? oslo.messaging is a _python_ library. Zaqar is a service

Re: [openstack-dev] [Zaqar] Zaqar and SQS Properties of Distributed Queues

2014-09-23 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Joe Gordon's message of 2014-09-23 14:59:33 -0700: On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 9:13 AM, Zane Bitter zbit...@redhat.com wrote: On 22/09/14 22:04, Joe Gordon wrote: To me this is less about valid or invalid choices. The Zaqar team is comparing Zaqar to SQS, but after digging

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][tripleo] New Project - Kolla: Deploy and Manage OpenStack using Kubernetes and Docker

2014-09-24 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Jay Pipes's message of 2014-09-23 21:38:37 -0700: On 09/23/2014 10:29 PM, Steven Dake wrote: There is a deployment program - tripleo is just one implementation. Nope, that is not correct. Like it or not (I personally don't), Triple-O is *the* Deployment Program for OpenStack:

[openstack-dev] [TripleO] PTL Candidacy

2014-09-24 Thread Clint Byrum
be asked to serve is as shepherd of long term efforts, and this is definitely one of those. So, I thank you for taking the time to read this, and hope that whatever happens we can build a better deployment program this cycle. -Clint Byrum [1] http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev

[openstack-dev] [Zaqar] The horse is dead. Long live the horse.

2014-09-24 Thread Clint Byrum
Sorry for the vague subject[1]. I just wanted to commend Flavio Percoco and the Zaqar team for maintaining poise and being excellent citizens of OpenStack whilst being questioned intensely by the likes of me, and others. I feel that this questioning has been useful, and will allow us to reason

Re: [openstack-dev] Thoughts on OpenStack Layers and a Big Tent model

2014-09-24 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Robert Collins's message of 2014-09-23 21:14:47 -0700: No one helped me edit this :) http://rbtcollins.wordpress.com/2014/09/24/what-poles-for-the-tent/ I hope I haven't zoned out and just channelled someone else here ;) This sounds like API's are what matters. You did

Re: [openstack-dev] [olso] [cinder] upgrade issues in lock_path in cinder after oslo utils sync

2013-12-09 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Sean Dague's message of 2013-12-09 08:17:45 -0800: On 12/06/2013 05:40 PM, Ben Nemec wrote: On 2013-12-06 16:30, Clint Byrum wrote: Excerpts from Ben Nemec's message of 2013-12-06 13:38:16 -0800: On 2013-12-06 15:14, Yuriy Taraday wrote: Hello, Sean. I get

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova][Schduler] Volunteers wanted for a modest proposal for an external scheduler in our lifetime

2013-12-09 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Herman Narkaytis's message of 2013-12-09 08:18:17 -0800: Hi All, Last couple of month Mirantis team was working on new scalable scheduler architecture. The main concept was proposed by Boris Pavlovic in the following blue print

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova][TripleO] Nested resources

2013-12-09 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Fox, Kevin M's message of 2013-12-09 09:34:06 -0800: I'm thinking more generic: The cloud provider will provide one or more suballocating images. The one Triple O uses to take a bare metal node and make vm's available would be the obvious one to make available initially. I

Re: [openstack-dev] Unified Guest Agent proposal

2013-12-09 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Steven Dake's message of 2013-12-09 09:41:06 -0800: On 12/09/2013 09:41 AM, David Boucha wrote: On Sat, Dec 7, 2013 at 11:09 PM, Monty Taylor mord...@inaugust.com mailto:mord...@inaugust.com wrote: On 12/08/2013 07:36 AM, Robert Collins wrote: On 8 December

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat] Core criteria, review stats vs reality

2013-12-09 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Steven Hardy's message of 2013-12-09 03:31:36 -0800: Hi all, So I've been getting concerned about $subject recently, and based on some recent discussions so have some other heat-core folks, so I wanted to start a discussion where we can agree and communicate our expectations

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat] Core criteria, review stats vs reality

2013-12-09 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Zane Bitter's message of 2013-12-09 09:52:25 -0800: On 09/12/13 06:31, Steven Hardy wrote: Hi all, So I've been getting concerned about $subject recently, and based on some recent discussions so have some other heat-core folks, so I wanted to start a discussion where we

Re: [openstack-dev] [Tripleo] Core reviewer update Dec

2013-12-10 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Robert Collins's message of 2013-12-09 16:31:37 -0800: On 6 December 2013 21:56, Jaromir Coufal jcou...@redhat.com wrote: Hey there, thanks Rob for keeping eye on this. Speaking for myself, as current non-coder it was very hard to keep pace with others, especially when

Re: [openstack-dev] Unified Guest Agent proposal

2013-12-10 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Dmitry Mescheryakov's message of 2013-12-10 08:15:15 -0800: Guys, I see two major trends in the thread: * use Salt * write our own solution with architecture similar to Salt or MCollective There were points raised pro and contra both solutions. But I have a concern

Re: [openstack-dev] Unified Guest Agent proposal

2013-12-10 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Dmitry Mescheryakov's message of 2013-12-10 08:25:26 -0800: And one more thing, Sandy Walsh pointed to the client Rackspace developed and use - [1], [2]. Its design is somewhat different and can be expressed by the following formulae: App - Host (XenStore) - Guest Agent

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat] Stack preview

2013-12-10 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Richard Lee's message of 2013-12-10 09:46:49 -0800: Hey all, We're working on a blueprinthttps://blueprints.launchpad.net/heat/+spec/preview-stack that adds the ability to preview what a given template+parameters would create in terms of resources. We think this would

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] workflow for fixes involving numerous changes

2013-12-10 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Steven Hardy's message of 2013-12-10 03:00:26 -0800: On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 11:45:11AM +0200, Pavlo Shchelokovskyy wrote: - wouldn't it be better to keep all these changes in one bug and fix all misuses per file basis (with one file per patch-set for example)? It seems to me

Re: [openstack-dev] Unified Guest Agent proposal

2013-12-10 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Dmitry Mescheryakov's message of 2013-12-10 11:08:58 -0800: 2013/12/10 Clint Byrum cl...@fewbar.com Excerpts from Dmitry Mescheryakov's message of 2013-12-10 08:25:26 -0800: And one more thing, Sandy Walsh pointed to the client Rackspace developed and use - [1], [2

Re: [openstack-dev] Unified Guest Agent proposal

2013-12-10 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Dmitry Mescheryakov's message of 2013-12-10 12:37:37 -0800: What is the exact scenario you're trying to avoid? It is DDoS attack on either transport (AMQP / ZeroMQ provider) or server (Salt / Our own self-written server). Looking at the design, it doesn't look like the attack

Re: [openstack-dev] 答复: [OpenStack][Heat] AutoScaling scale down issue

2013-12-11 Thread Clint Byrum
Hi! This list is for discussion of ongoing bugs and features in Heat. For user-centric discussions, please use the main openstack mailing list: http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack Thanks! Excerpts from Haiming Yang's message of 2013-12-11 09:40:32 -0800: I think it

Re: [openstack-dev] Generic question: Any tips for 'keeping up' with the mailing lists?

2013-12-12 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Justin Hammond's message of 2013-12-12 08:23:24 -0800: I am a developer who is currently having troubles keeping up with the mailing list due to volume, and my inability to organize it in my client. I am nearly forced to use Outlook 2011 for Mac and I have read and attempted to

[openstack-dev] [Nova] [Neutron] How do we know a host is ready to have servers scheduled onto it?

2013-12-12 Thread Clint Byrum
I've been chasing quite a few bugs in the TripleO automated bring-up lately that have to do with failures because either there are no valid hosts ready to have servers scheduled, or there are hosts listed and enabled, but they can't bind to the network because for whatever reason the L2 agent has

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] [Neutron] How do we know a host is ready to have servers scheduled onto it?

2013-12-12 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Chris Friesen's message of 2013-12-12 09:19:42 -0800: On 12/12/2013 11:02 AM, Clint Byrum wrote: So I'm asking, is there a standard way to determine whether or not a nova-compute is definitely ready to have things scheduled on it? This can be via an API, or even by observing

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] [Neutron] How do we know a host is ready to have servers scheduled onto it?

2013-12-12 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Russell Bryant's message of 2013-12-12 09:09:04 -0800: On 12/12/2013 12:02 PM, Clint Byrum wrote: I've been chasing quite a few bugs in the TripleO automated bring-up lately that have to do with failures because either there are no valid hosts ready to have servers scheduled

Re: [openstack-dev] Unified Guest Agent proposal

2013-12-12 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Dmitry Mescheryakov's message of 2013-12-12 09:24:13 -0800: Clint, Kevin, Thanks for reassuring me :-) I just wanted to make sure that having direct access from VMs to a single facility is not a dead end in terms of security and extensibility. And since it is not, I agree it is

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] [Neutron] How do we know a host is ready to have servers scheduled onto it?

2013-12-12 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Kyle Mestery's message of 2013-12-12 09:53:57 -0800: On Dec 12, 2013, at 11:44 AM, Jay Pipes jaypi...@gmail.com wrote: On 12/12/2013 12:36 PM, Clint Byrum wrote: Excerpts from Russell Bryant's message of 2013-12-12 09:09:04 -0800: On 12/12/2013 12:02 PM, Clint Byrum wrote

Re: [openstack-dev] Unified Guest Agent proposal

2013-12-12 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Jay Pipes's message of 2013-12-12 10:15:13 -0800: On 12/10/2013 03:49 PM, Ian Wells wrote: On 10 December 2013 20:55, Clint Byrum cl...@fewbar.com mailto:cl...@fewbar.com wrote: If it is just a network API, it works the same for everybody. This makes it simpler

Re: [openstack-dev] Unified Guest Agent proposal

2013-12-12 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Steven Dake's message of 2013-12-12 12:32:55 -0800: On 12/12/2013 10:24 AM, Dmitry Mescheryakov wrote: Clint, Kevin, Thanks for reassuring me :-) I just wanted to make sure that having direct access from VMs to a single facility is not a dead end in terms of security and

Re: [openstack-dev] Unified Guest Agent proposal

2013-12-13 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Scott Moser's message of 2013-12-13 06:28:08 -0800: On Tue, 10 Dec 2013, Ian Wells wrote: On 10 December 2013 20:55, Clint Byrum cl...@fewbar.com wrote: If it is just a network API, it works the same for everybody. This makes it simpler, and thus easier to scale out

Re: [openstack-dev] Unified Guest Agent proposal

2013-12-13 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Alessandro Pilotti's message of 2013-12-13 07:13:01 -0800: Hi guys, This seems to become a pretty long thread with quite a lot of ideas. What do you think about setting up a meeting on IRC to talk about what direction to take? IMO this has the potential of becoming a

Re: [openstack-dev] Unified Guest Agent proposal

2013-12-13 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Sergey Lukjanov's message of 2013-12-13 07:46:34 -0800: Hi Alessandro, it's a good idea to setup an IRC meeting for the unified agents. IMO it'll seriously speedup discussion. The first one could be used to determine the correct direction, then we can use them to discuss

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova][TripleO] Nested resources

2013-12-14 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Sylvain Bauza's message of 2013-12-14 06:23:48 -0800: 2013/12/9 Clint Byrum cl...@fewbar.com Excerpts from Fox, Kevin M's message of 2013-12-09 09:34:06 -0800: I'm thinking more generic: The cloud provider will provide one or more suballocating images. The one Triple

Re: [openstack-dev] Unified Guest Agent proposal

2013-12-15 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Steven Dake's message of 2013-12-14 09:00:53 -0800: On 12/13/2013 01:13 PM, Clint Byrum wrote: Excerpts from Dmitry Mescheryakov's message of 2013-12-13 12:01:01 -0800: Still, what about one more server process users will have to run? I see unified agent as library which can

Re: [openstack-dev] Unified Guest Agent proposal

2013-12-17 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Dmitry Mescheryakov's message of 2013-12-17 08:01:38 -0800: Folks, The discussion didn't result in a consensus, but it did revealed a great number of things to be accounted. I've tried to summarize top-level points in the etherpad [1]. It lists only items everyone (as it seems

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