Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][oslo] oslo.config and import chains

2014-08-07 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Aug 7, 2014, at 12:39 PM, Kevin L. Mitchell kevin.mitch...@rackspace.com wrote: On Thu, 2014-08-07 at 17:27 +0100, Matthew Booth wrote: On 07/08/14 16:27, Kevin L. Mitchell wrote: On Thu, 2014-08-07 at 12:15 +0100, Matthew Booth wrote: A (the?) solution is to register_opts() in foo

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] The future of the integrated release

2014-08-07 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Aug 6, 2014, at 5:10 PM, Michael Still mi...@stillhq.com wrote: On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 2:03 AM, Thierry Carrez thie...@openstack.org wrote: We seem to be unable to address some key issues in the software we produce, and part of it is due to strategic contributors (and core reviewers)

Re: [openstack-dev] introducing cyclops

2014-08-08 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Aug 8, 2014, at 3:34 AM, Piyush Harsh h...@zhaw.ch wrote: Dear Eoghan, Thanks for your comments. Although you are correct that rating, charging, and billing policies are commercially sensitive to the operators, still if an operator has an openstack installation, I do not see why the

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] usage patterns for oslo.config

2014-08-08 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Aug 8, 2014, at 1:30 PM, Vishvananda Ishaya vishvana...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Alistair, Modules can register their own options and there is no need to call reload_config_files. The config files are parsed and values stored in case the option is later declared. The only time you need to

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ceilometer] Question on decorators in Ceilometer pecan framework

2014-08-08 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Aug 8, 2014, at 8:49 AM, Pendergrass, Eric eric.pendergr...@hp.com wrote: Hi, We have been struggling to get a decorator working for proposed new RBAC functionality in ceilometer-api. We’re hitting a problem where GET request query parameters are mucked up by our decorator. Here’s

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] usage patterns for oslo.config

2014-08-11 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Aug 8, 2014, at 7:22 PM, Devananda van der Veen devananda@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Aug 8, 2014 at 12:41 PM, Doug Hellmann d...@doughellmann.com wrote: That’s right. The preferred approach is to put the register_opt() in *runtime* code somewhere before the option will be used

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] oslo.concurrency repo review

2014-08-11 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Aug 11, 2014, at 3:26 PM, Joshua Harlow harlo...@outlook.com wrote: On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 11:02 AM, Yuriy Taraday yorik@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 5:44 AM, Joshua Harlow harlo...@outlook.com wrote: One question from me: Will there be later fixes to remove

Re: [openstack-dev] Which program for Rally

2014-08-12 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Aug 11, 2014, at 12:00 PM, David Kranz dkr...@redhat.com wrote: On 08/06/2014 05:48 PM, John Griffith wrote: I have to agree with Duncan here. I also don't know if I fully understand the limit in options. Stress test seems like it could/should be different (again overlap isn't a

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ceilometer] Add a pollster plugin

2014-08-12 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Aug 12, 2014, at 4:11 AM, Duan, Li-Gong (Gary@HPServers-Core-OE-PSC) li-gong.d...@hp.com wrote: Hi Folks, Is there any best practices or good way to debug whether new pollster plugin work fine for ceilometer? I’d like to add a new pollster plugin into Ceilometer by - adding

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] The future of the integrated release

2014-08-12 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Aug 12, 2014, at 1:44 PM, Dolph Mathews dolph.math...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 12:30 AM, Joe Gordon joe.gord...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Aug 8, 2014 at 6:58 AM, Kyle Mestery mest...@mestery.com wrote: On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 1:26 PM, Joe Gordon joe.gord...@gmail.com

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ceilometer] Way to get wrapped method's name/class using Pecan secure decorators?

2014-08-12 Thread Doug Hellmann
Eric, If you can give us some more information about your end goal, independent of the implementation, maybe we can propose an alternate technique to achieve the same thing. Doug On Aug 12, 2014, at 6:21 PM, Ryan Petrello ryan.petre...@dreamhost.com wrote: Yep, you're right, this doesn't

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] The future of the integrated release

2014-08-13 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Aug 13, 2014, at 3:05 PM, Eoghan Glynn egl...@redhat.com wrote: At the end of the day, that's probably going to mean saying No to more things. Everytime I turn around everyone wants the TC to say No to things, just not to their particular thing. :) Which is human nature. But I think if

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] The future of the integrated release

2014-08-13 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Aug 13, 2014, at 9:11 AM, Russell Bryant rbry...@redhat.com wrote: On 08/13/2014 08:52 AM, Mark McLoughlin wrote: On Tue, 2014-08-12 at 14:26 -0400, Eoghan Glynn wrote: It seems like this is exactly what the slots give us, though. The core review team picks a number of slots indicating

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] The future of the integrated release

2014-08-13 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Aug 13, 2014, at 4:08 PM, Matthew Treinish mtrein...@kortar.org wrote: On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 03:43:21PM -0400, Eoghan Glynn wrote: Divert all cross project efforts from the following projects so we can focus our cross project resources. Once we are in a bitter place we can expand

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] The future of the integrated release

2014-08-13 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Aug 13, 2014, at 4:05 PM, Dean Troyer dtro...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 2:24 PM, Doug Hellmann d...@doughellmann.com wrote: What “cross-project efforts” are we talking about? The liaison program in Oslo has been a qualified success so far. Would it make sense

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][core] Expectations of core reviewers

2014-08-13 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Aug 13, 2014, at 4:42 PM, Russell Bryant rbry...@redhat.com wrote: On 08/13/2014 02:44 PM, Russell Bryant wrote: On 08/13/2014 02:33 PM, Dan Smith wrote: On 8/13/14 11:20 AM, Mike Bayer wrote: On Aug 13, 2014, at 1:44 PM, Russell Bryant rbry...@redhat.com wrote: I disagree. IMO,

[openstack-dev] [oslo] review dashboard updates

2014-08-13 Thread Doug Hellmann
Based on the discussion about finding ways to identify reviews that should be given priorities, I have updated the “Oslo Review Dashboard” link on https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Oslo#Review_Links to include 3 new queries: 1. Changes in oslo-incubator with ‘graduation’ in the topic (i.e., those

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] The future of the integrated release

2014-08-14 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Aug 14, 2014, at 4:41 PM, Joe Gordon joe.gord...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 12:24 PM, Doug Hellmann d...@doughellmann.com wrote: On Aug 13, 2014, at 3:05 PM, Eoghan Glynn egl...@redhat.com wrote: At the end of the day, that's probably going to mean saying

Re: [openstack-dev] gettext question about oslo.i18n library

2014-08-15 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Aug 15, 2014, at 3:18 AM, Peng Wu peng.e...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Recently I just read the code of oslo.i18n library, The lazy translation idea is great! But I found a question about gettext contextual markers and plural form, such as pgettext and ungettext functions, see [3].

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron][all] switch from mysqldb to another eventlet aware mysql client

2014-08-15 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Aug 15, 2014, at 9:29 AM, Ihar Hrachyshka ihrac...@redhat.com wrote: Signed PGP part Some updates on the matter: - oslo-spec was approved with narrowed scope which is now 'enabled mysqlconnector as an alternative in gate' instead of 'switch the default db driver to mysqlconnector'.

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo][db] Nominating Mike Bayer for the oslo.db core reviewers team

2014-08-15 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Aug 15, 2014, at 10:00 AM, Ben Nemec openst...@nemebean.com wrote: On 08/15/2014 08:20 AM, Russell Bryant wrote: On 08/15/2014 09:13 AM, Jay Pipes wrote: On 08/15/2014 04:21 AM, Roman Podoliaka wrote: Hi Oslo team, I propose that we add Mike Bayer (zzzeek) to the oslo.db core

Re: [openstack-dev] [All] LOG.warning/LOG.warn

2014-08-18 Thread Doug Hellmann
warn() and warning() are synonyms (literally the same method, aliased). We had to add a similar alias in the oslo ContextAdapter to support code using both forms in existing code. If the documented form is warning(), then I agree we should stick with that, although I don’t think the churn

Re: [openstack-dev] gettext question about oslo.i18n library

2014-08-18 Thread Doug Hellmann
-15 at 16:02 -0400, Doug Hellmann wrote: On Aug 15, 2014, at 3:18 AM, Peng Wu peng.e...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Recently I just read the code of oslo.i18n library, The lazy translation idea is great! But I found a question about gettext contextual markers and plural form, such as pgettext

Re: [openstack-dev] [All] LOG.warning/LOG.warn

2014-08-18 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Aug 18, 2014, at 10:15 AM, Daniel P. Berrange berra...@redhat.com wrote: On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 07:57:28AM +1000, Michael Still wrote: My recollection is that this was a request from the oslo team, but it was so long ago that I don't recall the details. I think the change is low value,

[openstack-dev] oslo.i18n 0.2.0 released

2014-08-18 Thread Doug Hellmann
The Oslo team is pleased to announce release 0.2.0 of oslo.i18n, the library for managing translated messages in OpenStack. This release includes a new test fixture for writing tests for classes that need to use both lazily and immediately translated strings. Please report bugs on the Oslo

[openstack-dev] oslo.utils 0.2.0 release

2014-08-20 Thread Doug Hellmann
The Oslo team is pleased to announce the release of version 0.2.0 of oslo.utils, the catch-all library containing small tool modules used throughout OpenStack. This release adds the mask_password() from the incubator to oslo.utils.strutils, along with some bug fixes and enhancements to the

Re: [openstack-dev] oslo.db 0.4.0 released

2014-08-21 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Aug 20, 2014, at 7:38 AM, Victor Sergeyev vserge...@mirantis.com wrote: Hello Folks! Oslo team is pleased to announce the new Oslo database handling library release - oslo.db 0.4.0 Thanks all for contributions to this release. Feel free to report issues using the launchpad tracker:

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ceilometer] Way to get wrapped method's name/class using Pecan secure decorators?

2014-08-21 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Aug 20, 2014, at 2:43 PM, Pendergrass, Eric eric.pendergr...@hp.com wrote: Hi Ryan, We tried globally applying the hook but could not get execution to enter the hook class. Perhaps we made a mistake, but we concluded the Controller still had to inherit from HookController using the

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] Issues with POSIX semaphores and other locks in lockutils

2014-08-21 Thread Doug Hellmann
+1 to going back to file locks, too. We can keep the current scheme under a different API in the module for anyone that wants to use it explicitly, but I think at this point it’s better to have something that works reliably when configured properly as the default. I hope we can switch that to

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ceilometer][WSME] Sphinx failing sporadically because of wsme autodoc extension

2014-08-21 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Aug 21, 2014, at 8:30 AM, Nejc Saje ns...@redhat.com wrote: Yesterday, doc builds started failing sporadically in Ceilometer gate.

Re: [openstack-dev] oslo.db 0.4.0 released

2014-08-21 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Aug 21, 2014, at 12:16 PM, Andreas Jaeger a...@suse.com wrote: On 08/20/2014 02:38 PM, Victor Sergeyev wrote: Hello Folks! Oslo team is pleased to announce the new Oslo database handling library release - oslo.db 0.4.0 Thanks all for contributions to this release. Unfortunately

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] Launchpad tracking of oslo projects

2014-08-25 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Aug 22, 2014, at 5:59 AM, Thierry Carrez thie...@openstack.org wrote: TL;DR: Let's create an Oslo projectgroup in Launchpad to track work across all Oslo libraries. In library projects, let's use milestones connected to published versions rather than the common milestones. Long

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] Incubator concerns from packaging perspective

2014-08-25 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Aug 23, 2014, at 5:36 PM, Maru Newby ma...@redhat.com wrote: On Aug 23, 2014, at 4:06 AM, Sumit Naiksatam sumitnaiksa...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 7:28 AM, Kyle Mestery mest...@mestery.com wrote: On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 5:12 AM, Ihar Hrachyshka ihrac...@redhat.com

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] [ptls] The Czar system, or how to scale PTLs

2014-08-25 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Aug 23, 2014, at 6:35 PM, Clint Byrum cl...@fewbar.com wrote: Excerpts from Dolph Mathews's message of 2014-08-22 09:45:37 -0700: On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 11:32 AM, Zane Bitter zbit...@redhat.com wrote: On 22/08/14 11:19, Thierry Carrez wrote: Zane Bitter wrote: On 22/08/14 08:33,

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat] heat.conf.sample is not up to date

2014-08-25 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Aug 24, 2014, at 12:30 PM, Ruslan Kamaldinov rkamaldi...@mirantis.com wrote: On Sun, Aug 24, 2014 at 11:10 AM, Mike Spreitzer mspre...@us.ibm.com wrote: What I really need to know is what to do when committing a change that really does require a change in the sample configuration file.

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Acceptable methods for establishing per-test-suite behaviors

2014-08-25 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Aug 22, 2014, at 4:09 PM, James E. Blair cor...@inaugust.com wrote: Hi, One of the things we've wanted for a while in some projects is a completely separate database environment for each test when using MySQL. To that end, I wrote a MySQL schema fixture that is in use in nodepool:

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] usage patterns for oslo.config

2014-08-26 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Aug 26, 2014, at 6:30 AM, Mark McLoughlin mar...@redhat.com wrote: On Mon, 2014-08-11 at 15:06 -0400, Doug Hellmann wrote: On Aug 8, 2014, at 7:22 PM, Devananda van der Veen devananda@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Aug 8, 2014 at 12:41 PM, Doug Hellmann d...@doughellmann.com wrote

Re: [openstack-dev] [infra] [keystone] pysaml2/xmlsec1 dep blocking keystone-to-keystone federation

2014-08-26 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Aug 26, 2014, at 7:44 AM, Sean Dague s...@dague.net wrote: On 08/26/2014 05:38 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote: Hi keystone/infra, One key upcoming Juno feature (Keystone to keystone federation) is currently blocked on adding pysaml2 to requirements: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/113294/

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] [ptls] The Czar system, or how to scale PTLs

2014-08-26 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Aug 26, 2014, at 5:13 AM, Thierry Carrez thie...@openstack.org wrote: OK, now that we have evacuated the terminology issue (we'll use liaison or janitor or secretary, not czar), and side-stepped the offtopic development (this is not about suppressing PTLs, just a framework to let them

Re: [openstack-dev] [infra] [keystone] pysaml2/xmlsec1 dep blocking keystone-to-keystone federation

2014-08-26 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Aug 26, 2014, at 10:18 AM, Steve Martinelli steve...@ca.ibm.com wrote: From: Doug Hellmann d...@doughellmann.com To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org, Date: 08/26/2014 10:11 AM Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [infra

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] [ptls] The Czar system, or how to scale PTLs

2014-08-26 Thread Doug Hellmann
of experiments to solve that problem. John Garbutt has done an incredible job at helping successive Nova PTLs handling the release management aspect. Tracy Jones took over Nova bug management. Doug Hellmann successfully introduced the concept of Oslo liaisons to get clear point of contacts for Oslo library

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] [ptls] The Czar system, or how to scale PTLs

2014-08-26 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Aug 26, 2014, at 11:28 AM, Matthew Treinish mtrein...@kortar.org wrote: On Tue, Aug 26, 2014 at 10:04:41AM -0400, Doug Hellmann wrote: On Aug 26, 2014, at 5:13 AM, Thierry Carrez thie...@openstack.org wrote: OK, now that we have evacuated the terminology issue (we'll use liaison

[openstack-dev] oslo.serialization 0.1.0 release

2014-08-27 Thread Doug Hellmann
The Oslo team is pleased to announce the release of oslo.serialization 0.1.0, the first release of the Oslo library containing tools for rendering objects in formats useful for storage or transmission. This release moves the jsonutils module from the oslo-incubator to oslo.serialization.

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] The future of the integrated release

2014-08-27 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Aug 27, 2014, at 8:47 AM, Sean Dague s...@dague.net wrote: On 08/26/2014 11:40 AM, Anne Gentle wrote: On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 8:36 AM, Sean Dague s...@dague.net mailto:s...@dague.net wrote: On 08/20/2014 12:37 PM, Zane Bitter wrote: On 11/08/14 05:24, Thierry Carrez wrote: So

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] The future of the integrated release

2014-08-27 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Aug 26, 2014, at 2:01 PM, Joe Gordon joe.gord...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 2:25 AM, Eoghan Glynn egl...@redhat.com wrote: Additional cross-project resources can be ponied up by the large contributor companies, and existing cross-project resources are not

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Design Summit reloaded

2014-08-27 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Aug 27, 2014, at 8:51 AM, Thierry Carrez thie...@openstack.org wrote: Hi everyone, I've been thinking about what changes we can bring to the Design Summit format to make it more productive. I've heard the feedback from the mid-cycle meetups and would like to apply some of those ideas

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] [glance] python namespaces considered harmful to development, lets not introduce more of them

2014-08-27 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Aug 27, 2014, at 10:31 AM, Sean Dague s...@dague.net wrote: So this change came in with adding glance.store - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/115265/5/lib/glance, which I think is a bad direction to be headed. Here is the problem when it comes to working with code from git, in python,

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] [glance] python namespaces considered harmful to development, lets not introduce more of them

2014-08-27 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Aug 27, 2014, at 11:14 AM, Flavio Percoco fla...@redhat.com wrote: On 08/27/2014 04:31 PM, Sean Dague wrote: So this change came in with adding glance.store - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/115265/5/lib/glance, which I think is a bad direction to be headed. Here is the problem when

[openstack-dev] [oslo] let's start preparing for the kilo summit

2014-08-27 Thread Doug Hellmann
Based on Thierry’s comment that we’ll have less space/time for summit sessions, I want to make sure we start thinking about topics that need to be addressed as a team earlier than we might usually. I created an etherpad for us to start sketching out ideas:

[openstack-dev] [oslo] review priorities

2014-08-27 Thread Doug Hellmann
I *believe* we have started work on all of the graduations we are likely to complete during Juno. I suggest we start focusing our efforts on reviews related to the other outstanding blueprints and critical bugs. I see a lot of open patches for taskflow, for example. Doug

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] The future of the integrated release

2014-08-27 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Aug 27, 2014, at 11:17 AM, Chris Dent chd...@redhat.com wrote: On Wed, 27 Aug 2014, Doug Hellmann wrote: For example, Matt helped me with an issue yesterday, and afterwards I asked him to write up a few details about how he reached his conclusion because he was moving fast enough that I

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] [glance] python namespaces considered harmful to development, lets not introduce more of them

2014-08-27 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Aug 27, 2014, at 11:55 AM, Donald Stufft don...@stufft.io wrote: On Aug 27, 2014, at 11:45 AM, Doug Hellmann d...@doughellmann.com wrote: On Aug 27, 2014, at 10:31 AM, Sean Dague s...@dague.net wrote: So this change came in with adding glance.store - https://review.openstack.org

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] review priorities

2014-08-27 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Aug 27, 2014, at 12:29 PM, Julien Danjou jul...@danjou.info wrote: On Wed, Aug 27 2014, Doug Hellmann wrote: I *believe* we have started work on all of the graduations we are likely to complete during Juno. I suggest we start focusing our efforts on reviews related to the other

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] The future of the integrated release

2014-08-27 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Aug 27, 2014, at 1:30 PM, Chris Dent chd...@redhat.com wrote: On Wed, 27 Aug 2014, Doug Hellmann wrote: I have found it immensely helpful, for example, to have a written set of the steps involved in creating a new library, from importing the git repo all the way through to making

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] gate debugging

2014-08-27 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Aug 27, 2014, at 5:27 PM, Doug Hellmann d...@doughellmann.com wrote: On Aug 27, 2014, at 2:54 PM, Sean Dague s...@dague.net wrote: Note: thread intentionally broken, this is really a different topic. On 08/27/2014 02:30 PM, Doug Hellmann wrote: On Aug 27, 2014, at 1:30 PM, Chris

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] [glance] python namespaces considered harmful to development, lets not introduce more of them

2014-08-28 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Aug 28, 2014, at 6:41 AM, Radomir Dopieralski openst...@sheep.art.pl wrote: On 27/08/14 16:31, Sean Dague wrote: [snip] In python 2.7 (using pip) namespaces are a bolt on because of the way importing modules works. And depending on how you install things in a namespace will overwrite

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] gate debugging

2014-08-28 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Aug 27, 2014, at 5:56 PM, Sean Dague s...@dague.net wrote: On 08/27/2014 05:27 PM, Doug Hellmann wrote: On Aug 27, 2014, at 2:54 PM, Sean Dague s...@dague.net wrote: Note: thread intentionally broken, this is really a different topic. On 08/27/2014 02:30 PM, Doug Hellmann wrote

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo.messaging] Request to include AMQP 1.0 support in Juno-3

2014-08-28 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Aug 28, 2014, at 8:36 AM, Mark McLoughlin mar...@redhat.com wrote: On Thu, 2014-08-28 at 13:24 +0200, Flavio Percoco wrote: On 08/27/2014 03:35 PM, Ken Giusti wrote: Hi All, I believe Juno-3 is our last chance to get this feature [1] included into olso.messaging. I honestly believe

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] gate debugging

2014-08-28 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Aug 28, 2014, at 1:00 PM, Dean Troyer dtro...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 11:48 AM, Doug Hellmann d...@doughellmann.com wrote: In my case, a neutron call failed. Most of the other services seem to have a *-api.log file, but neutron doesn’t. It took a little while to find

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] gate debugging

2014-08-28 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Aug 28, 2014, at 1:17 PM, Sean Dague s...@dague.net wrote: On 08/28/2014 12:48 PM, Doug Hellmann wrote: On Aug 27, 2014, at 5:56 PM, Sean Dague s...@dague.net wrote: On 08/27/2014 05:27 PM, Doug Hellmann wrote: On Aug 27, 2014, at 2:54 PM, Sean Dague s...@dague.net wrote: Note

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] gate debugging

2014-08-28 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Aug 28, 2014, at 2:16 PM, Sean Dague s...@dague.net wrote: On 08/28/2014 02:07 PM, Joe Gordon wrote: On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 10:17 AM, Sean Dague s...@dague.net mailto:s...@dague.net wrote: On 08/28/2014 12:48 PM, Doug Hellmann wrote: On Aug 27, 2014, at 5:56 PM, Sean Dague

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] gate debugging

2014-08-28 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Aug 28, 2014, at 2:15 PM, Sean Dague s...@dague.net wrote: On 08/28/2014 01:48 PM, Doug Hellmann wrote: On Aug 28, 2014, at 1:17 PM, Sean Dague s...@dague.net wrote: On 08/28/2014 12:48 PM, Doug Hellmann wrote: On Aug 27, 2014, at 5:56 PM, Sean Dague s...@dague.net wrote: On 08

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] change to deprecation policy in the incubator

2014-08-28 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Aug 28, 2014, at 12:14 PM, Doug Hellmann d...@doughellmann.com wrote: Before Juno we set a deprecation policy for graduating libraries that said the incubated versions of the modules would stay in the incubator repository for one full cycle after graduation. This gives projects time

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Design Summit reloaded

2014-08-28 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Aug 28, 2014, at 3:31 PM, Sean Dague s...@dague.net wrote: On 08/28/2014 03:06 PM, Jay Pipes wrote: On 08/28/2014 02:21 PM, Sean Dague wrote: On 08/28/2014 01:58 PM, Jay Pipes wrote: On 08/27/2014 11:34 AM, Doug Hellmann wrote: On Aug 27, 2014, at 8:51 AM, Thierry Carrez thie

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] change to deprecation policy in the incubator

2014-09-01 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Aug 29, 2014, at 6:28 PM, Ben Nemec openst...@nemebean.com wrote: On 08/28/2014 11:14 AM, Doug Hellmann wrote: Before Juno we set a deprecation policy for graduating libraries that said the incubated versions of the modules would stay in the incubator repository for one full cycle after

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] change to deprecation policy in the incubator

2014-09-01 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Aug 29, 2014, at 5:53 AM, Flavio Percoco fla...@redhat.com wrote: On 08/28/2014 06:14 PM, Doug Hellmann wrote: Before Juno we set a deprecation policy for graduating libraries that said the incubated versions of the modules would stay in the incubator repository for one full cycle after

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Is the BP approval process broken?

2014-09-01 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Aug 29, 2014, at 5:07 AM, Thierry Carrez thie...@openstack.org wrote: Joe Gordon wrote: On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 2:43 PM, Alan Kavanagh alan.kavan...@ericsson.com mailto:alan.kavan...@ericsson.com wrote: I share Donald's points here, I believe what would help is to clearly

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] Launchpad tracking of oslo projects

2014-09-01 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Aug 28, 2014, at 7:57 AM, Thierry Carrez thie...@openstack.org wrote: Thierry Carrez wrote: Doug Hellmann wrote: This makes sense to me, so let’s move ahead with your plan. OK, this is now done: Project group @ https://launchpad.net/oslo Oslo incubator: https://launchpad.net/oslo

[openstack-dev] [oslo] library feature freeze and final releases

2014-09-02 Thread Doug Hellmann
Oslo team, We need to consider how we are going to handle the approaching feature freeze deadline (4 Sept). We should, at this point, be focusing reviews on changes associated with blueprints. We will have time to finish graduation work and handle bugs between the freeze and the release

[openstack-dev] [oslo] library projects and milestone management

2014-09-02 Thread Doug Hellmann
Oslo team, Thierry and I discussed some changes in how we manage milestones in launchpad during our 1:1 today. We settled on something close to what I think Mark has been doing for oslo.messaging. The idea is to use milestones named “next” in each library, and then rename those milestones when

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] library feature freeze and final releases

2014-09-02 Thread Doug Hellmann
Yes, you’re right, I missed oslo.log. Doug On Sep 2, 2014, at 9:28 AM, Davanum Srinivas dava...@gmail.com wrote: Doug, plan is good. Same criteria will mean exception for oslo.log as well -- dims On Tue, Sep 2, 2014 at 9:20 AM, Doug Hellmann d...@doughellmann.com wrote: Oslo team

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] [infra] Alpha wheels for Python 3.x

2014-09-03 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Sep 2, 2014, at 3:17 PM, Clark Boylan cboy...@sapwetik.org wrote: On Tue, Sep 2, 2014, at 11:30 AM, Yuriy Taraday wrote: Hello. Currently for alpha releases of oslo libraries we generate either universal or Python 2.x-only wheels. This presents a problem: we can't adopt alpha releases

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] [infra] Alpha wheels for Python 3.x

2014-09-03 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Sep 3, 2014, at 5:27 AM, Yuriy Taraday yorik@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Sep 2, 2014 at 11:17 PM, Clark Boylan cboy...@sapwetik.org wrote: On Tue, Sep 2, 2014, at 11:30 AM, Yuriy Taraday wrote: Hello. Currently for alpha releases of oslo libraries we generate either universal or

Re: [openstack-dev] Treating notifications as a contract

2014-09-03 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Sep 3, 2014, at 9:50 AM, Sandy Walsh sandy.wa...@rackspace.com wrote: Is there anything slated for the Paris summit around this? I just spent nearly a week parsing Nova notifications and the pain of no schema has overtaken me. We're chatting with IBM about CADF and getting down to

Re: [openstack-dev] Kilo Cycle Goals Exercise

2014-09-03 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Sep 3, 2014, at 11:37 AM, Joe Gordon joe.gord...@gmail.com wrote: As you all know, there has recently been several very active discussions around how to improve assorted aspects of our development process. One idea that was brought up is to come up with a list of cycle goals/project

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] [infra] Alpha wheels for Python 3.x

2014-09-03 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Sep 3, 2014, at 11:57 AM, Clark Boylan cboy...@sapwetik.org wrote: On Wed, Sep 3, 2014, at 08:22 AM, Doug Hellmann wrote: On Sep 2, 2014, at 3:17 PM, Clark Boylan cboy...@sapwetik.org wrote: On Tue, Sep 2, 2014, at 11:30 AM, Yuriy Taraday wrote: Hello. Currently for alpha releases

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] [glance] do NOT ever sort requirements.txt

2014-09-03 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Sep 3, 2014, at 12:20 PM, Dolph Mathews dolph.math...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Sep 3, 2014 at 8:25 AM, Sean Dague s...@dague.net wrote: On 09/03/2014 09:03 AM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: On Wed, Sep 03, 2014 at 08:37:17AM -0400, Sean Dague wrote: I'm not sure why people keep showing up

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo.messaging][feature freeze exception] Can I get an exception for AMQP 1.0?

2014-09-03 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Sep 3, 2014, at 2:03 PM, Ken Giusti kgiu...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I'm proposing a freeze exception for the oslo.messaging AMQP 1.0 driver: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/75815/ Blueprint:

[openstack-dev] WARNING: upcoming dependency change to oslotest

2014-09-04 Thread Doug Hellmann
Next week the Oslo team will be releasing a new version of oslotest that replaces its use of the “mox” library with “mox3. This will allow us to prepare a packaged version of oslotest that works on both python 2 and 3, which is necessary for porting some of the other Oslo libraries as well as

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] [infra] Alpha wheels for Python 3.x

2014-09-04 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Sep 4, 2014, at 3:38 AM, Yuriy Taraday yorik@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Sep 3, 2014 at 7:24 PM, Doug Hellmann d...@doughellmann.com wrote: On Sep 3, 2014, at 5:27 AM, Yuriy Taraday yorik@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Sep 2, 2014 at 11:17 PM, Clark Boylan cboy...@sapwetik.org wrote

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo.messaging][feature freeze exception] Can I get an exception for AMQP 1.0?

2014-09-04 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Sep 3, 2014, at 5:48 PM, Ken Giusti kgiu...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed Sep 3 19:23:52 UTC 2014, Doug Hellmann wrote: On Sep 3, 2014, at 2:03 PM, Ken Giusti kgiusti at gmail.com wrote: Hello, I'm proposing a freeze exception for the oslo.messaging AMQP 1.0 driver: https

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo.messaging][feature freeze exception] Can I get an exception for AMQP 1.0?

2014-09-05 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Sep 3, 2014, at 2:03 PM, Ken Giusti kgiu...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I'm proposing a freeze exception for the oslo.messaging AMQP 1.0 driver: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/75815/ Blueprint:

[openstack-dev] oslotest 1.1.0.0a2 released

2014-09-05 Thread Doug Hellmann
The Oslo team is pleased to announce the release of oslotest 1.1.0.0a2, the latest version of the oslo library with test base classes and fixtures. This release includes: * Add fixture for mock.patch.multiple * Ensure that mock.patch.stopall is called last * Remove differences between Python

Re: [openstack-dev] Status update on the python-openstacksdk project

2014-09-05 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Sep 5, 2014, at 10:21 AM, Brian Curtin br...@python.org wrote: Hi all, Between recent IRC meetings and the mid-cycle operators meetup, we've heard things ranging from is the SDK project still around to I can't wait for this. I'm Brian Curtin from Rackspace and I'd like to tell you what

[openstack-dev] oslo.config 1.4.0.0a4 released - juno rc1

2014-09-08 Thread Doug Hellmann
The Oslo team is pleased to release version 1.4.0.0a4 of oslo.config, our first release candidate for oslo.config for juno. This release includes: $ git log --no-merges --oneline 1.4.0.0a3..1.4.0.0a4 6acc2dd Updated from global requirements a590c2a Log a fixed length string of asterisks for

[openstack-dev] oslo.i18n 0.3.0 released - juno rc1

2014-09-08 Thread Doug Hellmann
The Oslo team is pleased to announce the release of version 0.3.0 of oslo.i18n, our first release candidate for oslo.i18n for juno. This release includes: $ git log --oneline --no-merges 0.2.0..0.3.0 08bee34 Imported Translations from Transifex aa251be Updated from global requirements 106387b

[openstack-dev] oslo.messaging 1.4.0.0a5 released - juno rc1

2014-09-08 Thread Doug Hellmann
The Oslo team is pleased to announce the release of version 1.4.0.0a5 of oslo.messaging, our first release candidate for oslo.messaging for juno. This release includes: $ git log --oneline --no-merges 1.4.0.0a4..1.4.0.0a5 6ea3b12 Imported Translations from Transifex fbee941 An initial

[openstack-dev] oslo.serialization 0.2.0 released - juno rc1

2014-09-08 Thread Doug Hellmann
The Oslo team is pleased to release version 0.2.0 of oslo.serialization, our first release candidate for oslo.serialization for juno. This release includes: $ git log --no-merges --oneline 0.1.0..0.2.0 4d61c82 Check for namedtuple_as_object support before using it Please report issues to the

[openstack-dev] cliff 1.7.0 released

2014-09-08 Thread Doug Hellmann
The Oslo team is pleased to release version 1.7.0 of cliff. This release includes: $ git log --oneline --no-merges 1.6.1..1.7.0 42675b2 Add release notes for 1.7.0 86fe20f Fix stable integration tests bf0c611 Updated from global requirements ac1347c Clean up default tox environment list db4eef5

[openstack-dev] stevedore 1.0.0.0a2 released -- juno rc1

2014-09-08 Thread Doug Hellmann
The Oslo team is pleased to release version 1.0.0.0a2 of stevedore, our first release candidate for stevedore for the OpenStack Juno cycle. This release includes: $ git log --oneline --no-merges 1.0.0.0a1..1.0.0.0a2 860bd8f Build universal wheels Please report issues to the stevedore bug

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] non-deterministic gate failures due to unclosed eventlet Timeouts

2014-09-08 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Sep 7, 2014, at 9:39 AM, John Schwarz jschw...@redhat.com wrote: Hi, Long story short: for future reference, if you initialize an eventlet Timeout, make sure you close it (either with a context manager or simply timeout.close()), and be extra-careful when writing tests using eventlet

[openstack-dev] [oslo] Anticipated Final Release Versions for Juno

2014-09-08 Thread Doug Hellmann
I spent some time today looking over our current set of libraries trying to anticipate which will be ready for 1.0 (or later) and which are still considered pre-release. I came up with this set of anticipated version numbers for our final juno releases. Please let me know if you see any

[openstack-dev] [oslo] Juno RC1 and beyond

2014-09-09 Thread Doug Hellmann
With some help from Thierry, we finally have our launchpad projects cleaned up and configured so we can use them correctly for tracking. I have reviewed our etherpad [1] and updated all of the bugs referenced in the RC1 section so they are now listed on

Re: [openstack-dev] how to provide tests environments for python things that require C extensions

2014-09-09 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Sep 8, 2014, at 8:18 PM, James E. Blair cor...@inaugust.com wrote: Sean Dague s...@dague.net writes: The crux of the issue is that zookeeper python modules are C extensions. So you have to either install from packages (which we don't do in unit tests) or install from pip, which means

[openstack-dev] [oslo] deferring incomplete juno specs

2014-09-09 Thread Doug Hellmann
We haven’t talked about the process for deferring incomplete specs. I submitted a review [1] to simply remove them from juno, with the understanding that their author (or a new owner) can resubmit them for kilo. Please look it over and vote on the review. If we need to have a process

Re: [openstack-dev] how to provide tests environments for python things that require C extensions

2014-09-09 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Sep 9, 2014, at 10:51 AM, Sean Dague s...@dague.net wrote: On 09/09/2014 10:41 AM, Doug Hellmann wrote: On Sep 8, 2014, at 8:18 PM, James E. Blair cor...@inaugust.com wrote: Sean Dague s...@dague.net writes: The crux of the issue is that zookeeper python modules are C extensions

[openstack-dev] adding RSS feeds to specs repositories

2014-09-10 Thread Doug Hellmann
I have completed a series of patches [1] for (I think) all of the specs repositories to add RSS feeds so that when specs are approved and merged they are easily publicized. The feeds are generated using a new sphinx plugin yasfb (yet another sphinx feed builder”). There is no need to

Re: [openstack-dev] how to provide tests environments for python things that require C extensions

2014-09-10 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Sep 10, 2014, at 4:34 PM, Yuriy Taraday yorik@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 9:58 PM, Doug Hellmann d...@doughellmann.com wrote: On Sep 9, 2014, at 10:51 AM, Sean Dague s...@dague.net wrote: On 09/09/2014 10:41 AM, Doug Hellmann wrote: On Sep 8, 2014, at 8:18 PM

Re: [openstack-dev] adding RSS feeds to specs repositories

2014-09-10 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Sep 10, 2014, at 5:07 PM, James E. Blair cor...@inaugust.com wrote: Doug Hellmann d...@doughellmann.com writes: I originally thought we would want to add these feeds to planet.openstack.org, but given the length of some of the specs I’m less sure of that. Instead, now I think it would

Re: [openstack-dev] adding RSS feeds to specs repositories

2014-09-10 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Sep 10, 2014, at 5:05 PM, Chmouel Boudjnah chmo...@enovance.com wrote: Doug Hellmann d...@doughellmann.com writes: I have completed a series of patches [1] for (I think) all of the specs repositories to add RSS feeds so that when specs are approved and merged they are easily publicized

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