Re: [openstack-dev] [All] LOG.warning/LOG.warn

2014-08-19 Thread Flavio Percoco
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Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo][db] Nominating Mike Bayer for the oslo.db core reviewers team

2014-08-19 Thread Flavio Percoco
a *little* while and make sure we weren’t going to scare him off. ;-) Seriously, Mike has been doing a great job collaborating with the existing team and helping us make oslo.db sane. +1 Big +1 -- @flaper87 Flavio Percoco ___ OpenStack-dev

Re: [openstack-dev] [infra] Gerrit downtime on August 16 for project renames

2014-08-19 Thread Flavio Percoco
is: openstack/marconi - openstack/zaqar openstack/python-marconiclient - openstack/python-zaqarclient openstack/marconi-specs - openstack/zaqar-specs Thanks! -- @flaper87 Flavio Percoco ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] 3rd Party CI vs. Gerrit

2014-08-19 Thread Flavio Percoco
that shows the latest results in a table format. (You may need to force-reload in your browser to see the change.) Beautiful! Thank you so much to everyone involved. +1! Love this. Yes, finally. One of the things I really wanted. Thanks guys! -- @flaper87 Flavio Percoco

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] The future of the integrated release

2014-08-19 Thread Flavio Percoco
are really important. However, any deployment should be considered as a good use case, whether it is big or not, since they've such project deployed. Flavio -- @flaper87 Flavio Percoco ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] The future of the integrated release

2014-08-19 Thread Flavio Percoco
and we shouldn't hold all incubated projects on that. Cheers, Flavio -- @flaper87 Flavio Percoco ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] The future of the integrated release

2014-08-19 Thread Flavio Percoco
help both projects to improve. Flavio -- @flaper87 Flavio Percoco ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev

Re: [openstack-dev] [glance] Review priorities

2014-08-21 Thread Flavio Percoco
OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev -- @flaper87 Flavio Percoco ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo

Re: [openstack-dev] [Glance][Heat] Murano split dsicussion

2014-08-22 Thread Flavio Percoco
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Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] Launchpad tracking of oslo projects

2014-08-22 Thread Flavio Percoco
. Comments, thoughts ? I like this proposal! +1 from me! [1] https://blueprints.launchpad.net/openstack [2] https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack -- @flaper87 Flavio Percoco ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] [ptls] The Czar system, or how to scale PTLs

2014-08-22 Thread Flavio Percoco
responsibilities. Cheers, Flavio -- @flaper87 Flavio Percoco ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] new testtools breaking gate

2014-08-22 Thread Flavio Percoco
requirements files. /Ihar ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev -- @flaper87 Flavio Percoco ___ OpenStack-dev

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] [ptls] The Czar system, or how to scale PTLs

2014-08-25 Thread Flavio Percoco
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Re: [openstack-dev] [all] [ptls] The Czar system, or how to scale PTLs

2014-08-26 Thread Flavio Percoco
the PTL to retain those roles anyway... +1 for letting the PTL take care of this. Flavio -- @flaper87 Flavio Percoco ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev

Re: [openstack-dev] [zaqar] [marconi] Juno Performance Testing (Round 1)

2014-08-27 Thread Flavio Percoco
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Re: [openstack-dev] [all] [glance] python namespaces considered harmful to development, lets not introduce more of them

2014-08-27 Thread Flavio Percoco
` - Complete the rename process with support from infra 2. Let this patch land, complete Glance's switch-over using namespaces and then do the rename all together. Do you have any other suggestion that would help avoiding namespaces without blocking glance.store? Thanks, Flavio -- @flaper87 Flavio

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Design Summit reloaded

2014-08-27 Thread Flavio Percoco
Last summit, it was basically impossible to do any hallway talking and even meet some folks face-2-face. Other than that, I think the proposal is great and makes sense to me. Flavio -- @flaper87 Flavio Percoco ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] [glance] python namespaces considered harmful to development, lets not introduce more of them

2014-08-28 Thread Flavio Percoco
On 08/27/2014 05:52 PM, Doug Hellmann wrote: On Aug 27, 2014, at 11:14 AM, Flavio Percoco fla...@redhat.com wrote: On 08/27/2014 04:31 PM, Sean Dague wrote: So this change came in with adding glance.store - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/115265/5/lib/glance, which I think is a bad

Re: [openstack-dev] [zaqar] [marconi] Removing GET message by ID in v1.1 (Redux)

2014-08-28 Thread Flavio Percoco
cleanup of minor things in v1.1 and I believe we can make v2 happen in Kilo. Thoughts? Flavio -- @flaper87 Flavio Percoco ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack

[openstack-dev] [Zaqar] Early proposals for design summit sessions

2014-08-28 Thread Flavio Percoco
Greetings, I'd like to join the early coordination effort for design sessions. I've shamelessly copied Doug's template for Oslo into a new etherpad so we can start proposing sessions there. https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kilo-zaqar-summit-topics Flavio -- @flaper87 Flavio Percoco

[openstack-dev] [Zaqar] Early proposals for design summit sessions

2014-08-28 Thread Flavio Percoco
Greetings, I'd like to join the early coordination effort for design sessions. I've shamelessly copied Doug's template for Oslo into a new etherpad so we can start proposing sessions there. https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kilo-zaqar-summit-topics Flavio -- @flaper87 Flavio Percoco

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] [glance] python namespaces considered harmful to development, lets not introduce more of them

2014-08-28 Thread Flavio Percoco
in the __init__ files. The problem, as Sean mentioned, is the way pip and setuptools will install this packages, which ends up overwriting the base __init__ file. Thanks for the links, though. Flavio -- @flaper87 Flavio Percoco ___ OpenStack-dev

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo.messaging] Request to include AMQP 1.0 support in Juno-3

2014-08-28 Thread Flavio Percoco
submitted ready to enable the gates for this driver. Lets see what others think about this, Flavio -- @flaper87 Flavio Percoco ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Gerrit Downtime on August 30, 2014

2014-08-28 Thread Flavio Percoco
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Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] change to deprecation policy in the incubator

2014-08-29 Thread Flavio Percoco
to oslo.utils yet. I expect to do it before the end of the cycle but Murphy :) Flavio -- @flaper87 Flavio Percoco ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev

[openstack-dev] [Zaqar] Comments on the concerns arose during the TC meeting

2014-09-04 Thread Flavio Percoco
-integrated-projects-use-cases Thanks to all of you who attended the meeting, I'm looking forward to your feedback and obviously the next meeting :) Flavio -- @flaper87 Flavio Percoco ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http

Re: [openstack-dev] [Zaqar] Comments on the concerns arose during the TC meeting

2014-09-04 Thread Flavio Percoco
cases could be covered by Zaqar as-is. Could you elaborate a bit more on #2? Especially on why you think Zaqar as is can't serve this specific case? Also, feel free to add use-cases to that etherpad if there's anything missing. :D Cheers, Flavio -- @flaper87 Flavio Percoco

[openstack-dev] [Glance][FFE] glance_store switch-over and random access to image data

2014-09-04 Thread Flavio Percoco
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Re: [openstack-dev] [Zaqar] Comments on the concerns arose during the TC meeting

2014-09-04 Thread Flavio Percoco
On 09/04/2014 01:15 PM, Chris Dent wrote: On Thu, 4 Sep 2014, Flavio Percoco wrote: Thanks for writing this up, interesting read. Thank you for your feedback :) Some comments in-line. 5. Ceilometer's recommended storage driver is still MongoDB, although Ceilometer has now support

Re: [openstack-dev] [Zaqar] Comments on the concerns arose during the TC meeting

2014-09-04 Thread Flavio Percoco
On 09/04/2014 02:14 PM, Sean Dague wrote: On 09/04/2014 03:08 AM, Flavio Percoco wrote: Greetings, Last Tuesday the TC held the first graduation review for Zaqar. During the meeting some concerns arose. I've listed those concerns below with some comments hoping that it will help starting

Re: [openstack-dev] [Zaqar] Comments on the concerns arose during the TC meeting

2014-09-04 Thread Flavio Percoco
to currently-integrated projects... +1 Cheers, Flavio -- @flaper87 Flavio Percoco ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev

Re: [openstack-dev] [Zaqar] FFE request for API v1.1 Response Document Changes

2014-09-04 Thread Flavio Percoco
the email, Flavio -- @flaper87 Flavio Percoco ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev

Re: [openstack-dev] [Zaqar] Comments on the concerns arose during the TC meeting

2014-09-05 Thread Flavio Percoco
On 09/04/2014 07:08 PM, Clint Byrum wrote: Excerpts from Flavio Percoco's message of 2014-09-04 06:01:45 -0700: On 09/04/2014 02:14 PM, Sean Dague wrote: On 09/04/2014 03:08 AM, Flavio Percoco wrote: Greetings, Last Tuesday the TC held the first graduation review for Zaqar. During

Re: [openstack-dev] how to provide tests environments for python things that require C extensions

2014-09-05 Thread Flavio Percoco
it and give it a try - or at least take a look at it. Flavio Monty ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev -- @flaper87 Flavio Percoco

Re: [openstack-dev] doubling our core review bandwidth

2014-09-08 Thread Flavio Percoco
to not approve patches if they think it requires more reviews. Just my $0.02, I agree with the proposal of trusting cores and letting them do 1x+2A when they think it's worth it. Flavio -- @flaper87 Flavio Percoco ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev

[openstack-dev] [Glance] Please, help testing Glance and keeping glance_store updated

2014-09-09 Thread Flavio Percoco
that is not tested in the gate, please, do test it in your own environment. If anything comes up, do not hesitate to contact me or any other glance_core. [0] https://review.openstack.org/#/c/100636/ [1] http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/glance_store -- @flaper87 Flavio Percoco

Re: [openstack-dev] [Zaqar] Comments on the concerns arose during the TC meeting

2014-09-10 Thread Flavio Percoco
___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev -- @flaper87 Flavio Percoco ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org

Re: [openstack-dev] [Zaqar] Zaqar graduation (round 2) [was: Comments on the concerns arose during the TC meeting]

2014-09-10 Thread Flavio Percoco
-projects-use-cases [5] https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/zaqar-overcloud-use-cases -- @flaper87 Flavio Percoco ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev

Re: [openstack-dev] [glance] 0.14.0 client - v2 requests broken

2014-09-10 Thread Flavio Percoco
pressured reviewing of 120300? Why do you think landing 120300 will take long? If both patches are already on gerrit, I'd rather review the real fix. Is there a reason you think landing 120143 first is better? Flavio -- @flaper87 Flavio Percoco

Re: [openstack-dev] [zaqar] Juno Performance Testing (Round 2)

2014-09-10 Thread Flavio Percoco
/listinfo/openstack-dev -- @flaper87 Flavio Percoco ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev

Re: [openstack-dev] [glance] 0.14.0 client - v2 requests broken

2014-09-10 Thread Flavio Percoco
with that! Flavio -- @flaper87 Flavio Percoco ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev

Re: [openstack-dev] [Zaqar] Zaqar graduation (round 2) [was: Comments on the concerns arose during the TC meeting]

2014-09-11 Thread Flavio Percoco
On 09/10/2014 03:18 PM, Gordon Sim wrote: On 09/10/2014 09:58 AM, Flavio Percoco wrote: To clarify the doubts of what Zaqar is or it's not, let me quote what's written in the project's overview section[0]: Zaqar is a multi-tenant cloud messaging service for web developers. How

Re: [openstack-dev] [Zaqar] Zaqar graduation (round 2) [was: Comments on the concerns arose during the TC meeting]

2014-09-11 Thread Flavio Percoco
. Thanks a lot for your feedback, Flavio -- @flaper87 Flavio Percoco ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev

Re: [openstack-dev] [Glance] Triage Bug Day Today!

2014-09-11 Thread Flavio Percoco
this, Cindy. Flavio -- @flaper87 Flavio Percoco ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev

Re: [openstack-dev] [Zaqar] Comments on the concerns arose during the TC meeting

2014-09-12 Thread Flavio Percoco
Thanks for providing very useful feedback, Clint. Flavio -- @flaper87 Flavio Percoco ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev

Re: [openstack-dev] [Zaqar] Comments on the concerns arose during the TC meeting

2014-09-12 Thread Flavio Percoco
being optimized for the use cases it aims to cover. The team has put enough effort and reviews on these optimizations, which are different from the ones you'd optimize rabbitmq for. Thanks a lot Zane for taking the time to dig into this topic, Flavio -- @flaper87 Flavio Percoco

Re: [openstack-dev] [zaqar] Juno Performance Testing (Round 2)

2014-09-12 Thread Flavio Percoco
(or mailing list)? I'm interested to know where you guys are with this, what is missing and most importantly, how we can help. Thanks Boris, Flavio -- @flaper87 Flavio Percoco ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] [clients] [keystone] lack of retrying tokens leads to overall OpenStack fragility

2014-09-12 Thread Flavio Percoco
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Re: [openstack-dev] [Zaqar] Comments on the concerns arose during the TC meeting

2014-09-12 Thread Flavio Percoco
On 09/12/2014 11:36 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote: Flavio Percoco wrote: On 09/12/2014 12:14 AM, Zane Bitter wrote: The final question is the one of arbitrary access to messages in the queue (or queue if you prefer). Flavio indicated that this effectively came for free with their implementation

Re: [openstack-dev] [Zaqar] Comments on the concerns arose during the TC meeting

2014-09-12 Thread Flavio Percoco
On 09/12/2014 01:56 PM, Flavio Percoco wrote: On 09/12/2014 11:36 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote: Flavio Percoco wrote: On 09/12/2014 12:14 AM, Zane Bitter wrote: The final question is the one of arbitrary access to messages in the queue (or queue if you prefer). Flavio indicated

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] PYTHONDONTWRITEBYTECODE=true in tox.ini

2014-09-13 Thread Flavio Percoco
running testr solves the problem you have identified without introducing any side-effects. This sounds saner to me so, I'd definitely go for this one. (FWIW, I'm use to clean up `pyc` files by myself) Flavio -- @flaper87 Flavio Percoco

Re: [openstack-dev] [Zaqar] Zaqar graduation (round 2) [was: Comments on the concerns arose during the TC meeting]

2014-09-15 Thread Flavio Percoco
happen properly based on the resource usage, flavors and other metrics. Cheers, Flavio -- @flaper87 Flavio Percoco ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev

Re: [openstack-dev] [Zaqar] Zaqar graduation (round 2) [was: Comments on the concerns arose during the TC meeting]

2014-09-16 Thread Flavio Percoco
more? Thanks :) Flavio -- @flaper87 Flavio Percoco ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev

Re: [openstack-dev] [glance][all] Help with interpreting the log level guidelines

2014-09-16 Thread Flavio Percoco
here. Agree with Sean. INFO are useful for investigations. WARN and ERROR are cause for alarm. +1 this is what we do in Zaqar as well. -- @flaper87 Flavio Percoco ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http

Re: [openstack-dev] [Cinder][Nova][Oslo] Moving Brick out of Cinder

2014-09-16 Thread Flavio Percoco
://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev -- @flaper87 Flavio Percoco ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev

[openstack-dev] [all][TC][Zaqar] Another graduation attempt, new lessons learned

2014-09-17 Thread Flavio Percoco
and easier for everyone. Cheers, Flavio -- @flaper87 Flavio Percoco ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev

Re: [openstack-dev] [zaqar] Signing Off from Core

2014-09-17 Thread Flavio Percoco
it is also because of your contributions and support. You played a key role in the project's growth and we all thank you a lot for that. I'm sad to see you go and I wish you luck on your new adventures :) Cheers, Flavio -- @flaper87 Flavio Percoco

Re: [openstack-dev] Please do *NOT* use vendorized versions of anything (here: glanceclient using requests.packages.urllib3)

2014-09-18 Thread Flavio Percoco
that because of the vendorized `urllib3` package. Cheers, Flavio -- @flaper87 Flavio Percoco ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] zeromq work for kilo

2014-09-18 Thread Flavio Percoco
...@ubuntu.com jamesp...@debian.org ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev -- @flaper87 Flavio Percoco

[openstack-dev] [Heat][Zaqar] Integration plan moving forward

2014-09-18 Thread Flavio Percoco
/ due dates? Thanks, Flavio -- @flaper87 Flavio Percoco ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev

Re: [openstack-dev] [Zaqar] Zaqar and SQS Properties of Distributed Queues

2014-09-18 Thread Flavio Percoco
but it definitely doesn't answer your questions. I'm sure we had this documented way better but I can't find the link. :( [0] https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Zaqar/Frequently_asked_questions#How_does_Zaqar_compare_to_AWS_.28SQS.2FSNS.29.3F Hope the above helps, Flavio -- @flaper87 Flavio Percoco

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Expand resource name allowed characters

2014-09-18 Thread Flavio Percoco
filed that? I agree it should not explode. That seems bad. I'll repeat Sean's question: Has anyone filed that? Otherwise, I think I'll go ahead and create a bug for it. Thanks, Flavio -- @flaper87 Flavio Percoco ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list

Re: [openstack-dev] [Zaqar] Zaqar and SQS Properties of Distributed Queues

2014-09-18 Thread Flavio Percoco
On 09/18/2014 04:09 PM, Gordon Sim wrote: On 09/18/2014 12:31 PM, Flavio Percoco wrote: On 09/17/2014 10:36 PM, Joe Gordon wrote: My understanding of Zaqar is that it's like SQS. SQS uses distributed queues, which have a few unusual properties [0]: Message Order Amazon SQS makes

Re: [openstack-dev] [Zaqar] Zaqar and SQS Properties of Distributed Queues

2014-09-18 Thread Flavio Percoco
___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev -- @flaper87 Flavio Percoco ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] zeromq work for kilo

2014-09-18 Thread Flavio Percoco
On 09/18/2014 04:16 PM, Kapil Thangavelu wrote: On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 4:18 AM, Flavio Percoco fla...@redhat.com mailto:fla...@redhat.com wrote: On 09/17/2014 04:34 PM, Doug Hellmann wrote: This thread [1] has turned more “future focused, so I’m moving the conversation

Re: [openstack-dev] [Zaqar] Zaqar and SQS Properties of Distributed Queues

2014-09-18 Thread Flavio Percoco
On 09/18/2014 05:42 PM, Steve Lewis wrote: On September 18, 2014 7:45 AM, Flavio Percoco wrote: On 09/18/2014 04:09 PM, Gordon Sim wrote: However, as far as consuming messages is concerned, it can guarantee once-and-only-once and/or at-least-once delivery depending on the message pattern

Re: [openstack-dev] [Zaqar] Zaqar and SQS Properties of Distributed Queues

2014-09-19 Thread Flavio Percoco
On 09/18/2014 09:25 PM, Gordon Sim wrote: On 09/18/2014 03:45 PM, Flavio Percoco wrote: On 09/18/2014 04:09 PM, Gordon Sim wrote: Is the replication synchronous or asynchronous with respect to client calls? E.g. will the response to a post of messages be returned only once the replication

Re: [openstack-dev] [Zaqar] Zaqar and SQS Properties of Distributed Queues

2014-09-19 Thread Flavio Percoco
On 09/18/2014 07:19 PM, Joe Gordon wrote: On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 7:45 AM, Flavio Percoco fla...@redhat.com mailto:fla...@redhat.com wrote: On 09/18/2014 04:09 PM, Gordon Sim wrote: On 09/18/2014 12:31 PM, Flavio Percoco wrote: On 09/17/2014 10:36 PM, Joe Gordon wrote

Re: [openstack-dev] [Zaqar] Zaqar and SQS Properties of Distributed Queues

2014-09-19 Thread Flavio Percoco
On 09/18/2014 07:16 PM, Devananda van der Veen wrote: On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 8:54 AM, Devananda van der Veen devananda@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 7:45 AM, Flavio Percoco fla...@redhat.com wrote: On 09/18/2014 04:09 PM, Gordon Sim wrote: On 09/18/2014 12:31 PM, Flavio

Re: [openstack-dev] [Zaqar] Zaqar and SQS Properties of Distributed Queues

2014-09-19 Thread Flavio Percoco
that far to say there's a need to start over. -- @flaper87 Flavio Percoco ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat][Zaqar] Integration plan moving forward

2014-09-19 Thread Flavio Percoco
On 09/18/2014 11:51 AM, Angus Salkeld wrote: On 18/09/2014 7:11 PM, Flavio Percoco fla...@redhat.com mailto:fla...@redhat.com wrote: Greetings, If I recall correctly, Heat was planning to adopt Zaqar regardless of the result of the graduation attempt (please correct me if I'm wrong

[openstack-dev] [Zaqar] PTL Candidacy

2014-09-22 Thread Flavio Percoco
for the project, team and the rest of the ecosystem. Thanks for reading, Flavio -- @flaper87 Flavio Percoco ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev

Re: [openstack-dev] Oslo messaging vs zaqar

2014-09-22 Thread Flavio Percoco
technically possible, I'm saying these 2 projects have different goals, visions and scope, hence they weren't merged nor they will. Cheers, Flavio -- @flaper87 Flavio Percoco ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http

Re: [openstack-dev] Oslo messaging vs zaqar

2014-09-22 Thread Flavio Percoco
On 09/22/2014 11:04 AM, Gordon Sim wrote: On 09/22/2014 08:00 AM, Flavio Percoco wrote: oslo messaging is highly tight to AMQP semantics whereas Zaqar is not. The API for oslo.messaging is actually quite high level and could easily be mapped to different messaging technologies

Re: [openstack-dev] Oslo messaging vs zaqar

2014-09-22 Thread Flavio Percoco
On 09/22/2014 02:35 PM, Gordon Sim wrote: On 09/22/2014 10:56 AM, Flavio Percoco wrote: What I meant is that oslo.messaging is an rpc library and it depends on few very specific message delivery patterns that are somehow tight/based on AMQP semantics. RPC at it's core is the request

Re: [openstack-dev] Oslo messaging vs zaqar

2014-09-23 Thread Flavio Percoco
/openstack-dev ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev -- @flaper87 Flavio Percoco ___ OpenStack-dev mailing

Re: [openstack-dev] [Zaqar] Zaqar and SQS Properties of Distributed Queues

2014-09-23 Thread Flavio Percoco
on recovering them. [0] https://bugs.launchpad.net/zaqar/+bug/1372335 -- @flaper87 Flavio Percoco ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev

[openstack-dev] [Zaqar] Zaqar's path cleared out

2014-09-23 Thread Flavio Percoco
is a broader enough field to cover tons of different tones of grey. While Zaqar is not trying to hold them all, it is definitely trying to provide enough to make the service worth it and suffice the use cases it has. Cheers, Flavio -- @flaper87 Flavio Percoco

Re: [openstack-dev] [Zaqar] Zaqar and SQS Properties of Distributed Queues

2014-09-23 Thread Flavio Percoco
://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2013-April/007650.html Cheers, Flavio P.S: again, sorry for all the late and mixed replies, email disaster happened and I'm working on recovering it. -- @flaper87 Flavio Percoco ___ OpenStack-dev mailing

Re: [openstack-dev] [Zaqar] Zaqar and SQS Properties of Distributed Queues

2014-09-23 Thread Flavio Percoco
agree that if FIFO's reality in Zaqar changes, it'll likely be towards the option (1). Thanks for your feedback, Flavio Thanks, Kevin From: Flavio Percoco [fla...@redhat.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2014 5:58 AM To: openstack-dev

Re: [openstack-dev] [Glance] PTL Non-Candidacy

2014-09-24 Thread Flavio Percoco
of the highlights of the project for me. Thanks for all your hard work, Mark. You did a great job and I hope you'll still be around. Flavio -- @flaper87 Flavio Percoco ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] adding James Carey to oslo-i18n-core

2014-09-24 Thread Flavio Percoco
+1 -- @flaper87 Flavio Percoco ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev

Re: [openstack-dev] [Zaqar] Zaqar and SQS Properties of Distributed Queues

2014-09-24 Thread Flavio Percoco
://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev -- @flaper87 Flavio Percoco ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev

Re: [openstack-dev] [Zaqar] Zaqar and SQS Properties of Distributed Queues

2014-09-24 Thread Flavio Percoco
it. Flavio -- @flaper87 Flavio Percoco ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev

Re: [openstack-dev] [Zaqar] Zaqar and SQS Properties of Distributed Queues

2014-09-24 Thread Flavio Percoco
On 09/24/2014 12:06 AM, Joe Gordon wrote: On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 2:40 AM, Flavio Percoco fla...@redhat.com mailto:fla...@redhat.com wrote: On 09/23/2014 05:13 AM, Clint Byrum wrote: Excerpts from Joe Gordon's message of 2014-09-22 19:04:03 -0700: [snip

Re: [openstack-dev] [Zaqar] The horse is dead. Long live the horse.

2014-09-24 Thread Flavio Percoco
On 09/24/2014 07:07 PM, Clint Byrum wrote: Sorry for the vague subject[1]. I just wanted to commend Flavio Percoco and the Zaqar team for maintaining poise and being excellent citizens of OpenStack whilst being questioned intensely by the likes of me, and others. And I'd personally like

Re: [openstack-dev] OK to Use Flufl.enum

2013-12-10 Thread Flavio Percoco
is the highest law. -- Cicero GPG Key fingerprint: 125F 5C67 DFE9 4084 ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev -- @flaper87 Flavio Percoco pgpc1OiyWfCmu.pgp

Re: [openstack-dev] [Oslo] First steps towards amqp 1.0

2013-12-10 Thread Flavio Percoco
On 10/12/13 12:15 +, Gordon Sim wrote: On 12/09/2013 11:29 PM, Mark McLoughlin wrote: On Mon, 2013-12-09 at 16:05 +0100, Flavio Percoco wrote: Sounds sane to me. To put it another way, assuming all AMQP 1.0 client libraries are equal, all the operator cares about is that we have a driver

Re: [openstack-dev] [Oslo] First steps towards amqp 1.0

2013-12-12 Thread Flavio Percoco
On 11/12/13 09:31 -0500, Andrew Laski wrote: On 12/10/13 at 11:09am, Flavio Percoco wrote: On 09/12/13 17:37 -0500, Russell Bryant wrote: On 12/09/2013 05:16 PM, Gordon Sim wrote: On 12/09/2013 07:15 PM, Russell Bryant wrote: [...] One other pattern that can benefit from intermediated

Re: [openstack-dev] Generic question: Any tips for 'keeping up' with the mailing lists?

2013-12-13 Thread Flavio Percoco
, mark all as read. I'm pretty sure you can do this with most of the known email clients out there. FWIW, I'm using mutt+offlineimap+notmuch Cheers, FF -- @flaper87 Flavio Percoco pgpfR90Utq2wt.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list

Re: [openstack-dev] [governance] Becoming a Program, before applying for incubation

2013-12-13 Thread Flavio Percoco
completely wrong about what a program is / should be, I'm leaning towards -1. * I'm sorry, I couldn't come up with a better term for this. :) Cheers, FF -- @flaper87 Flavio Percoco pgp7UZvRUQkcr.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list

Re: [openstack-dev] [governance] Becoming a Program, before applying for incubation

2013-12-13 Thread Flavio Percoco
On 13/12/13 10:44 -0500, Russell Bryant wrote: On 12/13/2013 10:37 AM, Flavio Percoco wrote: On 13/12/13 15:53 +0100, Thierry Carrez wrote: Hi everyone, TL;DR: Incubation is getting harder, why not ask efforts to apply for a new program first to get the visibility they need to grow. Long

Re: [openstack-dev] [governance] Becoming a Program, before applying for incubation

2013-12-16 Thread Flavio Percoco
On 13/12/13 16:37 +0100, Flavio Percoco wrote: On 13/12/13 15:53 +0100, Thierry Carrez wrote: Hi everyone, TL;DR: Incubation is getting harder, why not ask efforts to apply for a new program first to get the visibility they need to grow. Long version: Last cycle we introduced the concept

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo]: implementing olso.messaging over amqp 1.0

2013-12-17 Thread Flavio Percoco
://blueprints.launchpad.net/oslo.messaging/+spec/amqp10-driver-implementation -- @flaper87 Flavio Percoco pgpC9dVaHQWAk.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman

Re: [openstack-dev] [governance] Becoming a Program, before applying for incubation

2013-12-17 Thread Flavio Percoco
a measured and obvious progression for OpenStack as a whole sound? +1 Cheers, FF -- @flaper87 Flavio Percoco pgpIGHvRb2pnl.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo]: implementing olso.messaging over amqp 1.0

2013-12-17 Thread Flavio Percoco
On 16/12/13 10:37 +, Gordon Sim wrote: On 12/12/2013 02:14 PM, Flavio Percoco wrote: I've a draft in my head of how the amqp 1.0 driver could be implemented and how to map the current expectations of the messaging layer to the new protocol. I think a separate thread to discuss this mapping

Re: [openstack-dev] [governance] Becoming a Program, before applying for incubation

2013-12-17 Thread Flavio Percoco
On 17/12/13 11:54 +0100, Jaromir Coufal wrote: On 2013/16/12 15:19, Flavio Percoco wrote: 1. Programs that are not part of OpenStack's release cycle shouldn't be considered official nor they should have the rights that integrated projects have. I don't agree on this point. There might

Re: [openstack-dev] [governance] Becoming a Program, before applying for incubation

2013-12-17 Thread Flavio Percoco
. Lets also - as Mark suggested - use that place to add comments and help them grow. And I'm also in favor of having a emerging projects track. +1 Cheers, FF -- @flaper87 Flavio Percoco pgpdDFeX8C356.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ OpenStack-dev

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo]: implementing olso.messaging over amqp 1.0

2013-12-17 Thread Flavio Percoco
On 17/12/13 14:22 +, Gordon Sim wrote: On 12/17/2013 01:53 PM, Flavio Percoco wrote: On 16/12/13 10:37 +, Gordon Sim wrote: On 12/12/2013 02:14 PM, Flavio Percoco wrote: I've a draft in my head of how the amqp 1.0 driver could be implemented and how to map the current expectations

Re: [openstack-dev] Diversity as a requirement for incubation

2013-12-18 Thread Flavio Percoco
towards (3) at the moment. Thoughts ? -- Thierry Carrez (ttx) ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev -- @flaper87 Flavio Percoco pgp1SYfXAXnZd.pgp

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