Re: [openstack-dev] [all] The future of the integrated release

2014-08-07 Thread Joe Gordon
On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 9:03 AM, Thierry Carrez thie...@openstack.org wrote: Hi everyone, With the incredible growth of OpenStack, our development community is facing complex challenges. How we handle those might determine the ultimate success or failure of OpenStack. With this cycle we hit

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO][Nova][Neutron] multiple hypervisors on one compute host - neutron agent and compute hostnames

2014-08-11 Thread Joe Gordon
On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 4:17 PM, Robert Collins robe...@robertcollins.net wrote: Hi! James has run into an issue implementing the multi-hypervisor spec ( http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/tripleo-specs/tree/specs/juno/tripleo-juno-deploy-cloud-hypervisor-type.rst ) which we're hoping

Re: [openstack-dev] [qa][ceilometer] swapping the roles of mongodb and sqlalchemy for ceilometer in Tempest

2014-08-11 Thread Joe Gordon
On Sat, Aug 9, 2014 at 6:29 AM, Eoghan Glynn egl...@redhat.com wrote: Hi Folks, Dina Belova has recently landed some infra patches[1,2] to create an experimental mongodb-based Tempest job. This effectively just overrides the ceilometer storage backend config so that mongodb is

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] fair standards for all hypervisor drivers

2014-08-11 Thread Joe Gordon
On Sun, Aug 10, 2014 at 11:59 PM, Mark McLoughlin mar...@redhat.com wrote: On Fri, 2014-08-08 at 09:06 -0400, Russell Bryant wrote: On 08/07/2014 08:06 PM, Michael Still wrote: It seems to me that the tension here is that there are groups who would really like to use features in newer

Re: [openstack-dev] [qa][ceilometer] swapping the roles of mongodb and sqlalchemy for ceilometer in Tempest

2014-08-11 Thread Joe Gordon
On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 3:07 PM, Eoghan Glynn egl...@redhat.com wrote: Ignoring the question of is it ok to say: 'to run ceilometer in any sort of non-trivial deployment you must manager yet another underlying service, mongodb' I would prefer not adding an addition gate variant to all

Re: [openstack-dev] [qa][ceilometer] swapping the roles of mongodb and sqlalchemy for ceilometer in Tempest

2014-08-11 Thread Joe Gordon
On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 3:53 PM, Devananda van der Veen devananda@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 3:27 PM, Joe Gordon joe.gord...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 3:07 PM, Eoghan Glynn egl...@redhat.com wrote: Ignoring the question of is it ok to say

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Retrospective veto revert policy

2014-08-12 Thread Joe Gordon
On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 8:46 AM, Jay Pipes jaypi...@gmail.com wrote: On 08/12/2014 10:56 AM, Mark McLoughlin wrote: Hey (Terrible name for a policy, I know) From the version_cap saga here: https://review.openstack.org/110754 I think we need a better understanding of how to approach

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] The future of the integrated release

2014-08-12 Thread Joe Gordon
On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 11:08 AM, Doug Hellmann d...@doughellmann.com wrote: On Aug 12, 2014, at 1:44 PM, Dolph Mathews dolph.math...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 12:30 AM, Joe Gordon joe.gord...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Aug 8, 2014 at 6:58 AM, Kyle Mestery mest

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] fair standards for all hypervisor drivers

2014-08-12 Thread Joe Gordon
On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 12:23 AM, Mark McLoughlin mar...@redhat.com wrote: On Mon, 2014-08-11 at 15:25 -0700, Joe Gordon wrote: On Sun, Aug 10, 2014 at 11:59 PM, Mark McLoughlin mar...@redhat.com wrote: On Fri, 2014-08-08 at 09:06 -0400, Russell Bryant wrote: On 08

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] The future of the integrated release

2014-08-13 Thread Joe Gordon
On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 2:01 AM, Nikola Đipanov ndipa...@redhat.com wrote: On 08/13/2014 04:05 AM, Michael Still wrote: On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 4:26 AM, Eoghan Glynn egl...@redhat.com wrote: It seems like this is exactly what the slots give us, though. The core review team picks a

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] The future of the integrated release

2014-08-13 Thread Joe Gordon
On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 5:13 AM, Mark McLoughlin mar...@redhat.com wrote: On Thu, 2014-08-07 at 09:30 -0400, Sean Dague wrote: While I definitely think re-balancing our quality responsibilities back into the projects will provide an overall better release, I think it's going to take a

Re: [openstack-dev] Which program for Rally

2014-08-13 Thread Joe Gordon
On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 2:48 PM, Duncan Thomas duncan.tho...@gmail.com wrote: On 13 August 2014 13:57, Matthew Treinish mtrein...@kortar.org wrote: On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 01:45:17AM +0400, Boris Pavlovic wrote: Keystone, Glance, Cinder, Neutron and Heat are running rally performance jobs,

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][core] Expectations of core reviewers

2014-08-13 Thread Joe Gordon
On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 8:31 PM, Michael Still mi...@stillhq.com wrote: On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 1:24 PM, Jay Pipes jaypi...@gmail.com wrote: Just wanted to quickly weigh in with my thoughts on this important topic. I very much valued the face-to-face interaction that came from the

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][core] Expectations of core reviewers

2014-08-14 Thread Joe Gordon
On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 1:47 AM, Daniel P. Berrange berra...@redhat.com wrote: On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 09:24:36AM +1000, Michael Still wrote: On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 3:09 AM, Dan Smith d...@danplanet.com wrote: I'm not questioning the value of f2f - I'm questioning the idea of doing f2f

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] The future of the integrated release

2014-08-14 Thread Joe Gordon
On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 12:24 PM, Doug Hellmann d...@doughellmann.com wrote: On Aug 13, 2014, at 3:05 PM, Eoghan Glynn egl...@redhat.com wrote: At the end of the day, that's probably going to mean saying No to more things. Everytime I turn around everyone wants the TC to say No to

Re: [openstack-dev] Enabling silent Docker tests for Nova?

2014-08-15 Thread Joe Gordon
. Joe Gordon suggests we need a spec to bring the driver back into Nova. Besides the fact that specs are closed and there is no intention of reintegrating the driver for Juno, I'm uncertain of proposing a spec without first having solid history of successful testing, especially given

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] The future of the integrated release

2014-08-15 Thread Joe Gordon
On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 8:17 AM, Sandy Walsh sandy.wa...@rackspace.com wrote: On 8/14/2014 6:42 PM, Doug Hellmann wrote: On Aug 14, 2014, at 4:41 PM, Joe Gordon joe.gord...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 12:24 PM, Doug Hellmann d...@doughellmann.com wrote: On Aug 13, 2014

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] The future of the integrated release

2014-08-15 Thread Joe Gordon
On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 4:02 PM, Eoghan Glynn egl...@redhat.com wrote: Additional cross-project resources can be ponied up by the large contributor companies, and existing cross-project resources are not necessarily divertable on command. Sure additional cross-project resources can

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] The future of the integrated release

2014-08-15 Thread Joe Gordon
On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 4:02 PM, Eoghan Glynn egl...@redhat.com wrote: Additional cross-project resources can be ponied up by the large contributor companies, and existing cross-project resources are not necessarily divertable on command. Sure additional cross-project resources can

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][core] Expectations of core reviewers

2014-08-18 Thread Joe Gordon
On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 3:18 AM, Thierry Carrez thie...@openstack.org wrote: Doug Hellmann wrote: On Aug 13, 2014, at 4:42 PM, Russell Bryant rbry...@redhat.com wrote: Let me try to say it another way. You seemed to say that it wasn't much to ask given the rate at which things happen in

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][core] Expectations of core reviewers

2014-08-18 Thread Joe Gordon
On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 8:18 AM, Russell Bryant rbry...@redhat.com wrote: On 08/18/2014 06:18 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote: Doug Hellmann wrote: On Aug 13, 2014, at 4:42 PM, Russell Bryant rbry...@redhat.com wrote: Let me try to say it another way. You seemed to say that it wasn't much to

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][core] Expectations of core reviewers

2014-08-18 Thread Joe Gordon
On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 5:22 AM, Daniel P. Berrange berra...@redhat.com wrote: On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 12:18:16PM +0200, Thierry Carrez wrote: Doug Hellmann wrote: On Aug 13, 2014, at 4:42 PM, Russell Bryant rbry...@redhat.com wrote: Let me try to say it another way. You seemed to say

Re: [openstack-dev] [All] LOG.warning/LOG.warn

2014-08-18 Thread Joe Gordon
On Sun, Aug 17, 2014 at 9:24 AM, Jay Bryant jsbry...@electronicjungle.net wrote: +2 I prefer the LOG.warning format and support that given the documentation you shared. If there is agreement I would create a hacking check. I think a better approach is to just not care which i used here.

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova][VMware] Minesweeper status

2014-08-19 Thread Joe Gordon
On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 4:22 AM, Gary Kotton gkot...@vmware.com wrote: Hi, Minesweeper is back up and running – this is now called “Vmware NSX CI”. A patch for the deprecation of the ESX driver resulted in endless Minesweeper failures (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/108854/). These were

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] Specs and approvals

2014-08-19 Thread Joe Gordon
On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 8:47 AM, Daniel P. Berrange berra...@redhat.com wrote: On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 09:31:48PM +1200, Robert Collins wrote: Hey everybody - https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/TripleO/SpecReviews seems pretty sane as we discussed at the last TripleO IRC meeting. I'd like

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO][Nova] Specs and approvals

2014-08-19 Thread Joe Gordon
On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 8:23 AM, Russell Bryant rbry...@redhat.com wrote: On 08/19/2014 05:31 AM, Robert Collins wrote: Hey everybody - https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/TripleO/SpecReviews seems pretty sane as we discussed at the last TripleO IRC meeting. I'd like to propose that we adopt

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Scheduler split wrt Extensible Resource Tracking

2014-08-20 Thread Joe Gordon
On Aug 19, 2014 10:45 AM, Day, Phil philip@hp.com wrote: -Original Message- From: Nikola Đipanov [mailto:ndipa...@redhat.com] Sent: 19 August 2014 17:50 To: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Scheduler split wrt Extensible Resource

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][core] Expectations of core reviewers

2014-08-21 Thread Joe Gordon
On Aug 20, 2014 10:56 AM, John Garbutt j...@johngarbutt.com wrote: On 18 August 2014 11:18, Thierry Carrez thie...@openstack.org wrote: Doug Hellmann wrote: On Aug 13, 2014, at 4:42 PM, Russell Bryant rbry...@redhat.com wrote: Let me try to say it another way. You seemed to say that it

Re: [openstack-dev] Adding GateFailureFix tag to commit messages

2014-08-23 Thread Joe Gordon
On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 2:11 AM, Daniel P. Berrange berra...@redhat.com wrote: On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 09:02:17AM -0700, Armando M. wrote: Hi folks, According to [1], we have ways to introduce external references to commit messages. These are useful to mark certain patches and their

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat] heat.conf.sample is not up to date

2014-08-25 Thread Joe Gordon
On Aug 24, 2014 9:04 AM, Morgan Fainberg morgan.fainb...@gmail.com wrote: On Sunday, August 24, 2014, Anne Gentle a...@openstack.org wrote: I'm following this as well since I have the exact same problem in a docstring patch for heat. Keystone saw an oddity with the new sample config

Re: [openstack-dev] [qa] In-tree functional test vision

2014-08-25 Thread Joe Gordon
On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 3:29 AM, Chris Dent chd...@redhat.com wrote: In the Thoughts on the patch test failure rate and moving forward thread[1] there's discussion of moving some of the burden for functional testing to the individual projects. This seems like a good idea to me, but also seems

Re: [openstack-dev] [qa] In-tree functional test vision

2014-08-25 Thread Joe Gordon
On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 2:50 PM, Chris Dent chd...@redhat.com wrote: On Mon, 25 Aug 2014, Joe Gordon wrote: [Other stuff snipped, thanks for that, good to have some pointers.] Why can't you run devstack locally? Maybe there are some changes we can make so its easier to run devstack

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] Specs and approvals

2014-08-25 Thread Joe Gordon
On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 11:57 AM, James Slagle james.sla...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 1:58 PM, Joe Gordon joe.gord...@gmail.com wrote: While I cannot speak for the dynamics of the tripleo team, if this were to be adopted in nova I would not +2 any blueprints as I don't

Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack][Nova]May be performance issues of connect_volume in Nova

2014-08-26 Thread Joe Gordon
On Tue, Aug 26, 2014 at 5:36 AM, Wang Shen ws1...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, All I have done some work to test the performance of LUN scanning, use iscsiadm with --rescan like what Nova dose. In my test, a host connected with a lot of LUNs , more than 1000 LUNs. Because --rescan will cause kernel

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] The future of the integrated release

2014-08-26 Thread Joe Gordon
On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 2:25 AM, Eoghan Glynn egl...@redhat.com wrote: Additional cross-project resources can be ponied up by the large contributor companies, and existing cross-project resources are not necessarily divertable on command. Sure additional cross-project

Re: [openstack-dev] [rally] Introduction to feature request mechanism in Rally

2014-08-26 Thread Joe Gordon
On Tue, Aug 26, 2014 at 5:31 AM, Boris Pavlovic bo...@pavlovic.me wrote: Hi stackers, It goes without saying that end users, that are actually using your tool/project/service, usually don't have enough time to join community, understand all technical details and road map of project and

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] gate debugging

2014-08-28 Thread Joe Gordon
On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 10:17 AM, Sean Dague s...@dague.net wrote: On 08/28/2014 12:48 PM, Doug Hellmann wrote: On Aug 27, 2014, at 5:56 PM, Sean Dague s...@dague.net wrote: On 08/27/2014 05:27 PM, Doug Hellmann wrote: On Aug 27, 2014, at 2:54 PM, Sean Dague s...@dague.net wrote:

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] gate debugging

2014-08-28 Thread Joe Gordon
On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 5:17 AM, Thierry Carrez thie...@openstack.org wrote: David Kranz wrote: On 08/27/2014 03:43 PM, Sean Dague wrote: On 08/27/2014 03:33 PM, David Kranz wrote: Race conditions are what makes debugging very hard. I think we are in the process of experimenting with

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Is the BP approval process broken?

2014-08-28 Thread Joe Gordon
On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 2:40 AM, Daniel P. Berrange berra...@redhat.com wrote: On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 01:04:57AM +, Dugger, Donald D wrote: I'll try and not whine about my pet project but I do think there is a problem here. For the Gantt project to split out the scheduler there is a

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Is the BP approval process broken?

2014-08-28 Thread Joe Gordon
On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 2:43 PM, Alan Kavanagh alan.kavan...@ericsson.com wrote: I share Donald's points here, I believe what would help is to clearly describe in the Wiki the process and workflow for the BP approval process and build in this process how to deal with

[openstack-dev] [nova] Kilo Specs Schedule

2014-08-28 Thread Joe Gordon
We just finished discussing when to open up Kilo specs at the nova meeting today [0], and Kilo specs will open right after we cut Juno RC1 (around Sept 25th [1]). Additionally, the spec template will most likely be revised. We still have a huge amount of work to do for Juno and the nova team is

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Is the BP approval process broken?

2014-08-28 Thread Joe Gordon
On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 3:27 PM, Chris Friesen chris.frie...@windriver.com wrote: On 08/28/2014 04:01 PM, Joe Gordon wrote: On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 2:43 PM, Alan Kavanagh alan.kavan...@ericsson.com mailto:alan.kavan...@ericsson.com wrote: I share Donald's points here, I believe what

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Is the BP approval process broken?

2014-08-29 Thread Joe Gordon
On Aug 29, 2014 10:42 AM, Dugger, Donald D donald.d.dug...@intel.com wrote: Well, I think that there is a sign of a broken (or at least bent) process and that's what I'm trying to expose. Especially given the ongoing conversations over Gantt it seems wrong that ultimately it was rejected due to

[openstack-dev] Kilo Cycle Goals Exercise

2014-09-03 Thread Joe Gordon
. The goal of this exercise is to help us see if our individual world views align with the greater community, and to get the ball rolling on a larger discussion of where as a project we should be focusing more time. best, Joe Gordon [0] http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2014-August

Re: [openstack-dev] [infra][qa][neutron] Neutron full job, advanced services, and the integrated gate

2014-09-03 Thread Joe Gordon
On Tue, Aug 26, 2014 at 4:47 PM, Salvatore Orlando sorla...@nicira.com wrote: TL; DR A few folks are proposing to stop running tests for neutron advanced services [ie: (lb|vpn|fw)aas] in the integrated gate, and run them only on the neutron gate. Reason: projects like nova are 100%

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] libvirt version_cap, a postmortem

2014-09-03 Thread Joe Gordon
to Dan Berrange's position, votes -2. Some debate between Dan and Dan continues. Joe Gordon votes +2. Matt Riedemann expresses support-in-principal for Dan Smith's approach. = July 15 = Debate continues ... 16:12 - I -2 the patch and attempt to take a step back and think about how we could have

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Feature Freeze Exception process for Juno

2014-09-03 Thread Joe Gordon
On Wed, Sep 3, 2014 at 2:50 AM, Nikola Đipanov ndipa...@redhat.com wrote: On 09/02/2014 09:23 PM, Michael Still wrote: On Tue, Sep 2, 2014 at 1:40 PM, Nikola Đipanov ndipa...@redhat.com wrote: On 09/02/2014 08:16 PM, Michael Still wrote: Hi. We're soon to hit feature freeze, as

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Feature Freeze Exception process for Juno

2014-09-03 Thread Joe Gordon
On Wed, Sep 3, 2014 at 8:57 AM, Solly Ross sr...@redhat.com wrote: I will follow up with a more detailed email about what I believe we are missing, once the FF settles and I have applied some soothing creme to my burnout wounds, but currently my sentiment is: Contributing features to

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] [feature freeze exception] Move to oslo.db

2014-09-04 Thread Joe Gordon
not only removes 3k LOC, but fixes 4 bugs(see commit message for more details) and provides relevant, stable common db code. Main maintainers of oslo.db(Roman Podoliaka and Victor Sergeyev) are OK with this. Joe Gordon and Matt Riedemann are already signing up, so we need one more vote from

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Feature Freeze Exception process for Juno

2014-09-04 Thread Joe Gordon
On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 2:23 AM, John Garbutt j...@johngarbutt.com wrote: Sorry for another top post, but I like how Nikola has pulled this problem apart, and wanted to respond directly to his response. On 3 September 2014 10:50, Nikola Đipanov ndipa...@redhat.com wrote: The reason many

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Averting the Nova crisis by splitting out virt drivers

2014-09-04 Thread Joe Gordon
On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 3:24 AM, Daniel P. Berrange berra...@redhat.com wrote: Position statement == Over the past year I've increasingly come to the conclusion that Nova is heading for (or probably already at) a major crisis. If steps are not taken to avert this, the project

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Feature Freeze Exception process for Juno

2014-09-05 Thread Joe Gordon
On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 4:05 AM, Nikola Đipanov ndipa...@redhat.com wrote: On 09/04/2014 10:25 PM, Solly Ross wrote: Anyway, I think it would be useful to have some sort of page where people could say I'm an SME in X, ask me for reviews and then patch submitters could go and say, oh, I

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova][FFE] Feature Freeze exception for juno-slaveification

2014-09-05 Thread Joe Gordon
On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 9:11 AM, Mike Wilson geekinu...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, I am requesting an exception for the juno-slaveification blueprint. There is a single outstanding patch [1] which has already been approved before, but needed to be re-spun due to gate failures which then

[openstack-dev] memory usage in devstack-gate (the oom-killer strikes again)

2014-09-08 Thread Joe Gordon
Hi All, We have recently started seeing assorted memory issues in the gate including the oom-killer [0] and libvirt throwing memory errors [1]. Luckily we run ps and dstat on every devstack run so we have some insight into why we are running out of memory. Based on the output from job taken at

Re: [openstack-dev] Kilo Cycle Goals Exercise

2014-09-09 Thread Joe Gordon
On Wed, Sep 3, 2014 at 8:37 AM, Joe Gordon joe.gord...@gmail.com wrote: As you all know, there has recently been several very active discussions around how to improve assorted aspects of our development process. One idea that was brought up is to come up with a list of cycle goals/project

Re: [openstack-dev] [zaqar] Juno Performance Testing (Round 2)

2014-09-12 Thread Joe Gordon
On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 12:19 PM, Kurt Griffiths kurt.griffi...@rackspace.com wrote: Hi folks, In this second round of performance testing, I benchmarked the new Redis driver. I used the same setup and tests as in Round 1 to make it easier to compare the two drivers. I did not test Redis in

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][neutron][cinder] Averting the Nova crisis by splitting out virt drivers

2014-09-12 Thread Joe Gordon
On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 2:18 AM, Daniel P. Berrange berra...@redhat.com wrote: On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 09:23:34AM +1000, Michael Still wrote: On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 8:11 AM, Jay Pipes jaypi...@gmail.com wrote: a) Sorting out the common code is already accounted for in Dan B's original

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] What's holding nova development back?

2014-09-16 Thread Joe Gordon
On Sep 15, 2014 8:31 PM, Jay Pipes jaypi...@gmail.com wrote: On 09/15/2014 08:07 PM, Jeremy Stanley wrote: On 2014-09-15 17:59:10 -0400 (-0400), Jay Pipes wrote: [...] Sometimes it's pretty hard to determine whether something in the E-R check page is due to something in the infra scripts,

Re: [openstack-dev] [zaqar] Juno Performance Testing (Round 2)

2014-09-17 Thread Joe Gordon
in the sense of OpenStack Tenants/Project-ID's or in the sense of “clients/workers”? For the latter case, the pilot tests I’ve done so far used multiple clients (though not graphed), but in the former case only one “project” was used. multiple Tenant/Project-IDs From: Joe Gordon joe.gord

[openstack-dev] [Zaqar] Zaqar and SQS Properties of Distributed Queues

2014-09-17 Thread Joe Gordon
Hi All, My understanding of Zaqar is that it's like SQS. SQS uses distributed queues, which have a few unusual properties [0]: Message Order Amazon SQS makes a best effort to preserve order in messages, but due to the distributed nature of the queue, we cannot guarantee you will receive messages

Re: [openstack-dev] PostgreSQL jobs slow in the gate

2014-09-17 Thread Joe Gordon
Postgres is also logging a lot of errors: http://logs.openstack.org/63/122263/1/check/check-tempest-dsvm-postgres-full/2f27252/logs/postgres.txt.gz On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 4:49 PM, Clark Boylan cboy...@sapwetik.org wrote: Hello, Recent sampling of test run times shows that our tempest jobs

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Its time to start identifying release critical bugs

2014-09-17 Thread Joe Gordon
On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 2:58 AM, Michael Still mi...@stillhq.com wrote: Hi. Is time to start identifying (and working on) release critical bugs in nova before we ship RC1. My initial position is that any critical bug is release critical. There are currently critical bugs not targeted to

Re: [openstack-dev] [Zaqar] Zaqar and SQS Properties of Distributed Queues

2014-09-18 Thread Joe Gordon
On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 9:02 AM, Devananda van der Veen devananda@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 7:55 AM, Flavio Percoco fla...@redhat.com wrote: On 09/18/2014 04:24 PM, Clint Byrum wrote: Great job highlighting what our friends over at Amazon are doing. It's clear from

Re: [openstack-dev] [Zaqar] Zaqar and SQS Properties of Distributed Queues

2014-09-18 Thread Joe Gordon
On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 7:45 AM, Flavio Percoco fla...@redhat.com wrote: On 09/18/2014 04:09 PM, Gordon Sim wrote: On 09/18/2014 12:31 PM, Flavio Percoco wrote: On 09/17/2014 10:36 PM, Joe Gordon wrote: My understanding of Zaqar is that it's like SQS. SQS uses distributed queues, which

Re: [openstack-dev] [Zaqar] Zaqar and SQS Properties of Distributed Queues

2014-09-22 Thread Joe Gordon
On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 9:58 AM, Zane Bitter zbit...@redhat.com wrote: On 22/09/14 10:11, Gordon Sim wrote: On 09/19/2014 09:13 PM, Zane Bitter wrote: SQS offers very, very limited guarantees, and it's clear that the reason for that is to make it massively, massively scalable in the way

Re: [openstack-dev] [Zaqar] Zaqar and SQS Properties of Distributed Queues

2014-09-22 Thread Joe Gordon
On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 5:47 PM, Zane Bitter zbit...@redhat.com wrote: On 22/09/14 17:06, Joe Gordon wrote: On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 9:58 AM, Zane Bitter zbit...@redhat.com wrote: On 22/09/14 10:11, Gordon Sim wrote: On 09/19/2014 09:13 PM, Zane Bitter wrote: SQS offers very, very

Re: [openstack-dev] [Zaqar] Zaqar and SQS Properties of Distributed Queues

2014-09-22 Thread Joe Gordon
On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 7:04 PM, Joe Gordon joe.gord...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 5:47 PM, Zane Bitter zbit...@redhat.com wrote: On 22/09/14 17:06, Joe Gordon wrote: On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 9:58 AM, Zane Bitter zbit...@redhat.com wrote: On 22/09/14 10:11, Gordon Sim wrote

Re: [openstack-dev] [Zaqar] Zaqar and SQS Properties of Distributed Queues

2014-09-22 Thread Joe Gordon
On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 8:13 PM, Clint Byrum cl...@fewbar.com wrote: Excerpts from Joe Gordon's message of 2014-09-22 19:04:03 -0700: On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 5:47 PM, Zane Bitter zbit...@redhat.com wrote: On 22/09/14 17:06, Joe Gordon wrote: On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 9:58 AM, Zane

Re: [openstack-dev] Thoughts on OpenStack Layers and a Big Tent model

2014-09-23 Thread Joe Gordon
way to build the list. Joe Gordon mentioned an interesting idea to address this (which I am probably totally butchering), which is that we make incubation more similar to the ASF Incubator. In other words make it more lightweight with no promise of governance or infrastructure support. you

Re: [openstack-dev] [Zaqar] Zaqar and SQS Properties of Distributed Queues

2014-09-23 Thread Joe Gordon
On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 9:13 AM, Zane Bitter zbit...@redhat.com wrote: On 22/09/14 22:04, Joe Gordon wrote: To me this is less about valid or invalid choices. The Zaqar team is comparing Zaqar to SQS, but after digging into the two of them, zaqar barely looks like SQS. Zaqar doesn't

Re: [openstack-dev] [Zaqar] Zaqar and SQS Properties of Distributed Queues

2014-09-23 Thread Joe Gordon
On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 2:40 AM, Flavio Percoco fla...@redhat.com wrote: On 09/23/2014 05:13 AM, Clint Byrum wrote: Excerpts from Joe Gordon's message of 2014-09-22 19:04:03 -0700: [snip] To me this is less about valid or invalid choices. The Zaqar team is comparing Zaqar to SQS, but

Re: [openstack-dev] [Tripleo] Core reviewer update Dec

2013-12-09 Thread Joe Gordon
On Dec 10, 2013 2:37 AM, Robert Collins robe...@robertcollins.net wrote: On 6 December 2013 21:56, Jaromir Coufal jcou...@redhat.com wrote: Hey there, thanks Rob for keeping eye on this. Speaking for myself, as current non-coder it was very hard to keep pace with others, especially

Re: [openstack-dev] Unified Guest Agent proposal

2013-12-10 Thread Joe Gordon
On Dec 10, 2013 7:00 PM, Clint Byrum cl...@fewbar.com wrote: Excerpts from Dmitry Mescheryakov's message of 2013-12-10 08:15:15 -0800: Guys, I see two major trends in the thread: * use Salt * write our own solution with architecture similar to Salt or MCollective There were

Re: [openstack-dev] FW: [Bug 1257788] Re: nova-network doesn't handle large amount of concurrent booting instances well

2013-12-10 Thread Joe Gordon
On Dec 10, 2013 7:38 PM, Joshua Harlow harlo...@yahoo-inc.com wrote: Yup, IMHO this is where the rally[1] project, and others that attempt to push the boundaries are really helping openstack become much better around these types of issues. At yahoo! in a short-time it will not be that

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova]

2013-12-11 Thread Joe Gordon
On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 11:48 PM, Gary Kotton gkot...@vmware.com wrote: On 12/11/13 12:43 AM, Matt Riedemann mrie...@linux.vnet.ibm.com wrote: On Tuesday, December 10, 2013 4:17:45 PM, Maithem Munshed 71510 wrote: Hello, I was wondering, what is the reason behind having nova audit

Re: [openstack-dev] State of the Gate - Dec 12

2013-12-12 Thread Joe Gordon
On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 7:19 PM, Matt Riedemann mrie...@linux.vnet.ibm.comwrote: On 12/12/2013 7:20 AM, Sean Dague wrote: Current Gate Length: 12hrs*, 41 deep (top of gate entered 12hrs ago) It's been an *exciting* week this week. For people not paying attention we had 2 external events

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Future meeting times

2013-12-18 Thread Joe Gordon
On Dec 18, 2013 6:38 AM, Russell Bryant rbry...@redhat.com wrote: Greetings, The weekly Nova meeting [1] has been held on Thursdays at 2100 UTC. I've been getting some requests to offer an alternative meeting time. I'd like to try out alternating the meeting time between two different times

Re: [openstack-dev] Nova and Neutron Hyper-V patches

2013-12-20 Thread Joe Gordon
Please read http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2013-September/015264.html On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 11:59 AM, Alessandro Pilotti apilo...@cloudbasesolutions.com wrote: Hi guys, We have a couple of bug fix patches that already received a +2 review waiting since some time for

Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack][Nova][API] Still need to update v2 API in Icehouse release

2013-12-26 Thread Joe Gordon
On Thu, Dec 26, 2013 at 1:03 AM, Jay Lau jay.lau@gmail.com wrote: Hi, In Icehouse development, do we have some guidelines for nova api change? If I want to make some changes for nova api, do I need to update both v2 and v3 or just v3? For every new extension to the v2 API we require

Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack][Nova][API] Still need to update v2 API in Icehouse release

2013-12-27 Thread Joe Gordon
2013/12/27 Joe Gordon joe.gord...@gmail.com On Thu, Dec 26, 2013 at 1:03 AM, Jay Lau jay.lau@gmail.com wrote: Hi, In Icehouse development, do we have some guidelines for nova api change? If I want to make some changes for nova api, do I need to update both v2 and v3 or just v3

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Availability of external testing logs

2013-12-30 Thread Joe Gordon
On Mon, Dec 23, 2013 at 11:13 AM, Sean Dague s...@dague.net wrote: On 12/23/2013 12:10 PM, Collins, Sean wrote: On Sun, Dec 22, 2013 at 12:30:50PM +0100, Salvatore Orlando wrote: I would suggest that external jobs should not vote until logs are publicly accessible, otherwise contributors

Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack-Dev] IDE extensions in .gitignore

2013-12-31 Thread Joe Gordon
On Tue, Dec 31, 2013 at 8:45 AM, John Griffith john.griff...@solidfire.comwrote: Hey Everyone, I wanted to see where we stand on IDE extensions in .gitignore files. We seem to have some back and forth, one cycle there's a bug and a patch to add things like eclipse, idea etc and the next

Re: [openstack-dev] [style] () vs \ continuations

2013-12-31 Thread Joe Gordon
A little late, but here is the patch to put this into hacking. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/64584/ And here is it running against nova: http://logs.openstack.org/84/64584/1/check/gate-hacking-integration-nova/b31c47e/console.html On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 5:23 PM, Vishvananda Ishaya

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][qa] Parallel testing update

2014-01-06 Thread Joe Gordon
On Mon, Jan 6, 2014 at 8:38 AM, Jay Pipes jaypi...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, 2014-01-06 at 17:04 +0100, Salvatore Orlando wrote: I have already discussed the matter with Jay on IRC, even if for a different issue. In this specific case 'batching' will have the benefit of reducing the

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][qa] Parallel testing update

2014-01-06 Thread Joe Gordon
On Mon, Jan 6, 2014 at 9:37 AM, Jay Pipes jaypi...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, 2014-01-06 at 08:58 -0800, Joe Gordon wrote: On Mon, Jan 6, 2014 at 8:38 AM, Jay Pipes jaypi...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, 2014-01-06 at 17:04 +0100, Salvatore Orlando wrote: I have already

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][qa] Parallel testing update

2014-01-06 Thread Joe Gordon
On Mon, Jan 6, 2014 at 10:35 AM, Jay Pipes jaypi...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, 2014-01-06 at 09:56 -0800, Joe Gordon wrote: What about it? Also those numbers are pretty old at this point. I was thinking disable rootwrap and run full parallel tempest against it. I think that is a little

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] minimum review period for functional changes that break backwards compatibility

2014-01-06 Thread Joe Gordon
On Fri, Jan 3, 2014 at 7:08 AM, Sean Dague s...@dague.net wrote: On 01/03/2014 09:44 AM, Anne Gentle wrote: On Fri, Jan 3, 2014 at 7:52 AM, Thierry Carrez thie...@openstack.org mailto:thie...@openstack.org wrote: Tim Bell wrote: Is there a mechanism to tag changes as being

Re: [openstack-dev] [elastic-recheck] Thoughts on next steps

2014-01-06 Thread Joe Gordon
Overall this looks really good, and very spot on. On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 6:29 PM, Sean Dague s...@dague.net wrote: A lot of elastic recheck this fall has been based on the ad hoc needs of the moment, in between diving down into the race bugs that were uncovered by it. This week away from it

Re: [openstack-dev] [elastic-recheck] Thoughts on next steps

2014-01-07 Thread Joe Gordon
Everything sounds good! On Mon, Jan 6, 2014 at 6:52 PM, Sean Dague s...@dague.net wrote: On 01/06/2014 07:04 PM, Joe Gordon wrote: Overall this looks really good, and very spot on. On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 6:29 PM, Sean Dague s...@dague.net mailto:s...@dague.net wrote: A lot

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] new (docs) requirement for third party CI

2014-01-08 Thread Joe Gordon
On Jan 8, 2014 7:12 AM, Matt Riedemann mrie...@linux.vnet.ibm.com wrote: I'd like to propose that we add another item to the list here [1] that is basically related to what happens when the 3rd party CI job votes a -1 on your patch. This would include: 1. Documentation on how to analyze the

[openstack-dev] [nova][neutron] top gate bugs: a plea for help

2014-01-08 Thread Joe Gordon
Hi All, As you know the gate has been in particularly bad shape (gate queue over 100!) this week due to a number of factors. One factor is how many major outstanding bugs we have in the gate. Below is a list of the top 4 open gate bugs. Here are some fun facts about this list: * All bugs have

Re: [openstack-dev] new (docs) requirement for third party CI

2014-01-09 Thread Joe Gordon
On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 5:52 AM, Kurt Taylor krtay...@us.ibm.com wrote: Joe Gordon joe.gord...@gmail.com wrote on 01/08/2014 12:40:47 PM: Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] new (docs) requirement for third party CI On Jan 8, 2014 7:12 AM, Matt Riedemann mrie...@linux.vnet.ibm.com wrote

Re: [openstack-dev] Less option (was: [oslo.config] Centralized config management)

2014-01-09 Thread Joe Gordon
On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 3:01 PM, Jay Pipes jaypi...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, 2014-01-09 at 23:56 +0100, Julien Danjou wrote: On Thu, Jan 09 2014, Jay Pipes wrote: Hope you don't mind, I'll jump in here :) On Thu, 2014-01-09 at 11:08 -0800, Nachi Ueno wrote: Hi Jeremy Don't

Re: [openstack-dev] Less option (was: [oslo.config] Centralized config management)

2014-01-10 Thread Joe Gordon
On Fri, Jan 10, 2014 at 4:01 AM, Mark McLoughlin mar...@redhat.com wrote: On Thu, 2014-01-09 at 16:34 -0800, Joe Gordon wrote: On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 3:01 PM, Jay Pipes jaypi...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, 2014-01-09 at 23:56 +0100, Julien Danjou wrote: On Thu, Jan 09 2014, Jay Pipes

Re: [openstack-dev] Meeting time congestion

2014-01-15 Thread Joe Gordon
On Jan 13, 2014 3:42 PM, Lyle, David david.l...@hp.com wrote: With all the warranted meeting time shuffling that has been happening recently, and the addition of so many projects and sub-teams, the meeting calendar for #openstack-meeting and #openstack-meeting-alt [1] is relatively full. So

Re: [openstack-dev] Meeting time congestion

2014-01-15 Thread Joe Gordon
On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 6:02 AM, Thierry Carrez thie...@openstack.orgwrote: Joe Gordon wrote: [1] https://www.google.com/calendar/ical/bj05mroquq28jhud58esggq...@group.calendar.google.com/public/basic.ics Is this calendar periodically pruned of dead meetings (for some definition

Re: [openstack-dev] [gantt] Sync up patches

2014-01-15 Thread Joe Gordon
On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 2:22 PM, Dugger, Donald D donald.d.dug...@intel.com wrote: All- I want to clear up some confusion I’m seeing in the reviews of these syncup patches. These patches merely bring recent changes from the nova tree over to the gantt tree. There is no attempt to

Re: [openstack-dev] Meeting time congestion

2014-01-15 Thread Joe Gordon
, that leaves 3 possibly dead meetings. On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 8:24 PM, Joe Gordon joe.gord...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 6:02 AM, Thierry Carrez thie...@openstack.orgwrote: Joe Gordon wrote: [1] https://www.google.com/calendar/ical/bj05mroquq28jhud58esggq

Re: [openstack-dev] [gantt] Sync up patches

2014-01-16 Thread Joe Gordon
no matter how we do it. -- Don Dugger Censeo Toto nos in Kansa esse decisse. - D. Gale Ph: 303/443-3786 *From:* Joe Gordon [mailto:joe.gord...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, January 15, 2014 10:21 AM *To:* OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) *Subject:* Re

Re: [openstack-dev] a common client library

2014-01-16 Thread Joe Gordon
On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 10:25 AM, Jesse Noller jesse.nol...@rackspace.comwrote: On Jan 16, 2014, at 9:07 AM, Joe Gordon joe.gord...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 9:45 AM, Jesse Noller jesse.nol...@rackspace.comwrote: On Jan 16, 2014, at 5:53 AM, Chmouel Boudjnah chmo

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