Re: [openstack-dev] EOL and Stable Contributions (was Juno is flubber at the gate) [metrics]

2015-02-10 Thread Mark Voelker
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 The voice of operators/users/deployers in this conversation should be reflected through the entity that they are paying to provide operational cloud services. Let’s be careful here: I hope you didn’t mean to say that operators/users/deployers

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova][Neutron] Thoughts on the nova-neutron interface

2015-01-28 Thread Mark Voelker
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 If the problem is too many round trips our the interaction being too chatty This is a good point: is the main issue that we feel the interaction is too chatty, or that it’s too slow? I seem to hear people gravitating toward one or the other when

Re: [openstack-dev] EOL and Stable Contributions (was Juno is flubber at the gate)

2015-02-10 Thread Mark Voelker
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 - -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 The sentiment that Kevin is expressing here has come up informally at past Operator’s meetups as well, which makes sense given that relatively few operators are chasing trunk vs using a stable

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] OpenStack options for visually impaired contributors

2015-03-05 Thread Mark Voelker
Hi John, I’m not visually impaired myself, but have you taken a look at Gertty? It’s a console-based interface so you may be able to take advantage of other console customizations you’ve made (font sizing for example) and it has options that allow you to set color palettes (e.g. to increase

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova][Neutron] Status of the nova-network to Neutron migration work

2015-03-27 Thread Mark Voelker
Inline… On Mar 27, 2015, at 11:48 AM, Assaf Muller amul...@redhat.com wrote: - Original Message - On 03/27/2015 05:22 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote: snip Part of it is corner (or simplified) use cases not being optimally served by Neutron, and I think Neutron could more aggressively

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Does OpenStack need a common solution for DLM? (was: Re: [Cinder] A possible solution for HA Active-Active)

2015-08-03 Thread Mark Voelker
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On Aug 3, 2015, at 6:09 PM, Flavio Percoco fla...@redhat.com wrote: On 03/08/15 19:48 +0200, Gorka Eguileor wrote: On Mon, Aug 03, 2015 at 03:42:48PM +, Fox, Kevin M wrote: I'm usually for abstraction layers, but they don't always pay off very

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Does OpenStack need a common solution for DLM? (was: Re: [Cinder] A possible solution for HA Active-Active)

2015-08-04 Thread Mark Voelker
On Aug 3, 2015, at 6:09 PM, Flavio Percoco fla...@redhat.com wrote: On 03/08/15 19:48 +0200, Gorka Eguileor wrote: On Mon, Aug 03, 2015 at 03:42:48PM +, Fox, Kevin M wrote: I'm usually for abstraction layers, but they don't always pay off very well due to catering to the lowest common

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Outcome of distributed lock manager discussion @ the summit

2015-11-04 Thread Mark Voelker
On Nov 4, 2015, at 4:41 PM, Gregory Haynes wrote: > > Excerpts from Clint Byrum's message of 2015-11-04 21:17:15 +: >> Excerpts from Joshua Harlow's message of 2015-11-04 12:57:53 -0800: >>> Ed Leafe wrote: On Nov 3, 2015, at 6:45 AM, Davanum

Re: [openstack-dev] [glance] The current state of glance v2 in public clouds

2015-09-15 Thread Mark Voelker
As another data point, I took a poke around the OpenStack Marketplace [1] this morning and found: * 1 distro/appliance claims v1 support * 3 managed services claim v1 support * 3 public clouds claim v1 support And everyone else claims v2 support. I’d encourage vendors to check their

Re: [openstack-dev] [Openstack-operators] [cinder] [all] The future of Cinder API v1

2015-09-29 Thread Mark Voelker
Mark T. Voelker > On Sep 29, 2015, at 12:36 PM, Matt Fischer wrote: > > > > I agree with John Griffith. I don't have any empirical evidences to back > my "feelings" on that one but it's true that we weren't enable to enable > Cinder v2 until now. > > Which makes me

Re: [openstack-dev] [glance][nova] how to upgrade from v1 to v2?

2015-09-28 Thread Mark Voelker
On Sep 28, 2015, at 9:03 AM, Doug Hellmann wrote: > > Excerpts from John Garbutt's message of 2015-09-28 12:32:53 +0100: >> On 28 September 2015 at 12:10, Sean Dague wrote: >>> On 09/27/2015 08:43 AM, Doug Hellmann wrote: Excerpts from Mark Voelker's

Re: [openstack-dev] [Openstack-operators] [cinder] [all] The future of Cinder API v1

2015-09-28 Thread Mark Voelker
FWIW, the most popular client libraries in the last user survey[1] other than OpenStack’s own clients were: libcloud (48 respondents), jClouds (36 respondents), Fog (34 respondents), php-opencloud (21 respondents), DeltaCloud (which has been retired by Apache and hasn’t seen a commit in two

Re: [openstack-dev] [glance][nova] how to upgrade from v1 to v2?

2015-09-25 Thread Mark Voelker
On Sep 25, 2015, at 12:00 PM, Chris Hoge wrote: > >> >> On Sep 25, 2015, at 6:59 AM, Doug Hellmann wrote: >> >> Excerpts from Mark Voelker's message of 2015-09-25 01:20:04 +: On Sep 24, 2015, at 5:55 PM, Sabari Murugesan

Re: [openstack-dev] [glance][nova] how to upgrade from v1 to v2?

2015-09-25 Thread Mark Voelker
On Sep 25, 2015, at 10:42 AM, Andrew Laski wrote: > > On 09/25/15 at 09:59am, Doug Hellmann wrote: >> Excerpts from Mark Voelker's message of 2015-09-25 01:20:04 +: >>> > >>> > On Sep 24, 2015, at 5:55 PM, Sabari Murugesan >>> > wrote: >>> > >>> >

Re: [openstack-dev] [glance][nova] how to upgrade from v1 to v2?

2015-09-25 Thread Mark Voelker
ke to clarify something. >>> >>> On 9/25/15, 12:16 PM, "Mark Voelker" <mvoel...@vmware.com> wrote: >>> [big snip] >>>> Also worth pointing out here: when we talk about ³doing the same thing² >>>> from a DefCore perspective, we

Re: [openstack-dev] [glance][nova] how to upgrade from v1 to v2?

2015-09-25 Thread Mark Voelker
On Sep 25, 2015, at 1:24 PM, Brian Rosmaita <brian.rosma...@rackspace.com> wrote: > > I'd like to clarify something. > > On 9/25/15, 12:16 PM, "Mark Voelker" <mvoel...@vmware.com> wrote: > [big snip] >> Also worth pointing out here: when we talk abo

Re: [openstack-dev] [glance][nova] how to upgrade from v1 to v2?

2015-09-24 Thread Mark Voelker
> > On Sep 24, 2015, at 5:55 PM, Sabari Murugesan wrote: > > Hi Melanie > > In general, images created by glance v1 API should be accessible using v2 and > vice-versa. We fixed some bugs [1] [2] [3] where metadata associated with an > image was > causing

Re: [openstack-dev] [tempest][nova][defcore] Add option to disable some strict response checking for interop testing

2016-06-14 Thread Mark Voelker
On Jun 14, 2016, at 7:28 PM, Monty Taylor wrote: > > On 06/14/2016 05:42 PM, Doug Hellmann wrote: >> Excerpts from Matthew Treinish's message of 2016-06-14 15:12:45 -0400: >>> On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 02:41:10PM -0400, Doug Hellmann wrote: Excerpts from Matthew

Re: [openstack-dev] [tempest][nova][defcore] Add option to disable some strict response checking for interop testing

2016-06-15 Thread Mark Voelker
> On Jun 15, 2016, at 8:01 AM, Sean Dague <s...@dague.net> wrote: > > On 06/15/2016 12:14 AM, Mark Voelker wrote: > >> >> It is perhaps important to note here that the DefCore seems to have two >> meanings to a lot of people I talk to today: it’s a mark of

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][Release] Changing release model for *-aas services

2016-06-01 Thread Mark Voelker
> On Jun 1, 2016, at 12:27 PM, Armando M. wrote: > > > > On 1 June 2016 at 02:28, Thierry Carrez wrote: > Armando M. wrote: > Having looked at the recent commit volume that has been going into the > *-aas repos, I am considering changing the release

[openstack-dev] [heat][swift] New TC Resolutions on DefCore Tests

2016-06-01 Thread Mark Voelker
Hi Everyone, At today’s DefCore Committee meeting, we discussed a couple of newly-approved TC resolutions and wanted to take a quick moment to make folks aware of them in case they weren’t already. These new resolutions may impact what capabilities and tests projects ask to have included in

Re: [openstack-dev] OpenStack Trove Ocata Midcycle, NYC, August 25 and 26.

2016-06-22 Thread Mark Voelker
[echoing what I just said on the openstack-operators ML since they just announced an Ops Midcycle in NYC also on the 25th and 26th] Hi Folks, FYI for those that may not be aware, that’s also the week of OpenStack East. OpenStack East runs August 23-24 also in New York City at the Playstation

Re: [openstack-dev] [tempest][nova][defcore] Add option to disable some strict response checking for interop testing

2016-06-16 Thread Mark Voelker
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On Jun 16, 2016, at 2:25 PM, Matthew Treinish wrote: On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 02:15:47PM -0400, Doug Hellmann wrote: Excerpts from Matthew Treinish's message of 2016-06-16 13:56:31 -0400: On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 12:59:41PM

Re: [openstack-dev] [tempest][nova][defcore] Add option to disable some strict response checking for interop testing

2016-06-20 Thread Mark Voelker
> On Jun 20, 2016, at 8:46 AM, Doug Hellmann wrote: > > Excerpts from Mark Voelker's message of 2016-06-16 20:33:36 +: > >> On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 05:42:16PM -0400, Doug Hellmann wrote: >> >> >>> I don't think DefCore actually needs to change old versions of

Re: [openstack-dev] [defcore] Determine latest set of tests for a given release

2016-01-14 Thread Mark Voelker
[+defcore-committee] This depends a little on what your objective is. If you’re looking for the tests that a product must pass today if it wants an OpenStack Powered logo/trademark agreement, you’ll want to look at either of the two most recently-approved DefCore Guidelines (currently 2015.5

Re: [openstack-dev] [All] IRC Mishaps

2017-02-09 Thread Mark Voelker
I work with lots of different clouds and any time I switch focus to a terminal I have to figure out which cloud it’s environment is set up to use. My terminal emulator has the same color scheme as my IRC client, so I’ve probably typed “set | grep OS_” into IRC accidentally about a million

Re: [openstack-dev] [Horizon][OSC][Nova][Neutron] Launch instance with Floating IP

2016-09-12 Thread Mark Voelker
> > On Sep 8, 2016, at 3:11 PM, Sean Dague wrote: > > On 09/08/2016 09:04 AM, Andrew Laski wrote: >> >> >> On Thu, Sep 8, 2016, at 07:18 AM, Sean Dague wrote: >>> On 09/07/2016 07:34 PM, Andrew Laski wrote: On Wed, Sep 7, 2016, at 06:54 PM, Martin Millnert

Re: [openstack-dev] [keystone][defcore][refstack] Removal of the v2.0 API

2017-03-02 Thread Mark Voelker
> On Mar 1, 2017, at 6:01 PM, Rodrigo Duarte wrote: > > On Wed, Mar 1, 2017 at 7:10 PM, Lance Bragstad wrote: > During the PTG, Morgan mentioned that there was the possibility of keystone > removing the v2.0 API [0]. This thread is a follow up

[openstack-dev] [tc][qa][all]Potential New Interoperability Programs: The Current Thinking

2017-06-09 Thread Mark Voelker
Hi Everyone, Happy Friday! There have been a number of discussions (at the PTG, at OpenStack Summit, in Interop WG and Board of Directors meetings, etc) over the past several months about the possibility of creating new interoperability programs in addition to the existing OpenStack Powered

Re: [openstack-dev] [refstack] Full list of API Tests versus 'OpenStack Powered' Tests

2018-02-27 Thread Mark Voelker
Hi Greg, Only the tests listed in the Guidelines are required to pass to get an OpenStack Powered logo and trademark usage license from the OpenStack Foundation (you must also use the designated sections of upstream code specified in the Guideline documents). However vendors are strongly