Re: [openstack-dev] [git-review] Supporting development in local branches

2014-08-07 Thread Robert Collins
reflog - you can recover all of your history in high fidelity (and there are options to let you control just how deep the rabbit hole goes). -Rob -- Robert Collins rbtcoll...@hp.com Distinguished Technologist HP Converged Cloud ___ OpenStack-dev mailing

[openstack-dev] [TripleO] reverting the HOT migration? // dealing with lockstep changes

2014-08-11 Thread Robert Collins
to be able to recognise them in review / design, and call them out so we can fix them early rather than deep down the pike. -Rob -- Robert Collins rbtcoll...@hp.com Distinguished Technologist HP Converged Cloud ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] reverting the HOT migration? // dealing with lockstep changes

2014-08-11 Thread Robert Collins
On 12 August 2014 07:24, Dan Prince dpri...@redhat.com wrote: On Tue, 2014-08-12 at 06:58 +1200, Robert Collins wrote: Hi, so shortly after the HOT migration landed, we hit https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/1354305 which is that on even quite recently deployed clouds, the migrated

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO][Heat] reverting the HOT migration? // dealing with lockstep changes

2014-08-11 Thread Robert Collins
bugs in Heat had [Heat] in the subject - I almost missed this one.) Sorry, was thinking this was more a TripleO issue - but I'm glad its a shallow heat issue instead :) -Rob -- Robert Collins rbtcoll...@hp.com Distinguished Technologist HP Converged Cloud

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO][heat] a small experiment with Ansible in TripleO

2014-08-11 Thread Robert Collins
, neutron and other projects are defaulting to one-worker-per-core, so I'm surprised that heat considers this inappropriate, but our other APIs consider it appropriate :) Whats different about heat that makes this a bad default? -Rob -- Robert Collins rbtcoll...@hp.com Distinguished Technologist HP

[openstack-dev] [TripleO] lists and merges

2014-08-12 Thread Robert Collins
when we see its wrong - to alpha-sort such structures: that avoids the textual-merge failure mode of 'append to the end'. -Rob -- Robert Collins rbtcoll...@hp.com Distinguished Technologist HP Converged Cloud ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO][Heat] reverting the HOT migration? // dealing with lockstep changes

2014-08-12 Thread Robert Collins
On 12 August 2014 10:46, Robert Collins robe...@robertcollins.net wrote: On 12 August 2014 07:24, Dan Prince dpri...@redhat.com wrote: On Tue, 2014-08-12 at 06:58 +1200, Robert Collins wrote: Hi, so shortly after the HOT migration landed, we hit https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/1354305

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO][Heat] reverting the HOT migration? // dealing with lockstep changes

2014-08-12 Thread Robert Collins
On 13 August 2014 11:05, Robert Collins robe...@robertcollins.net wrote: I've reproduced the problem with zane's fix for the validation error - and it does indeed still break: | stack_status_reason | StackValidationFailed: Property error : NovaCompute6: | | key_name

Re: [openstack-dev] Which program for Rally

2014-08-13 Thread Robert Collins
- that's a founding principle of opensource in general. +1 -Rob -- Robert Collins rbtcoll...@hp.com Distinguished Technologist HP Converged Cloud ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][core] Expectations of core reviewers

2014-08-13 Thread Robert Collins
consensus at the f2f. -Rob -- Robert Collins rbtcoll...@hp.com Distinguished Technologist HP Converged Cloud ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev

[openstack-dev] [everything] pbr issue in latest patch

2014-08-13 Thread Robert Collins
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Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] fix poor tarball support in source-repositories

2014-08-18 Thread Robert Collins
(there is a patch up already to do that for dib) that looks at the unpacked content to decide what to do. -Rob -- Robert Collins rbtcoll...@hp.com Distinguished Technologist HP Converged Cloud ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] The future of the integrated release

2014-08-19 Thread Robert Collins
sound, and offers substantial dogfood and virtuous circle benefits. -Rob -- Robert Collins rbtcoll...@hp.com Distinguished Technologist HP Converged Cloud ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi

[openstack-dev] [TripleO] Specs and approvals

2014-08-19 Thread Robert Collins
- this motion is about opening up +A to the whole Tripleo core team on specs. Reviewers, and other interested kibbitzers, please +1 / -1 as you feel fit :) -Rob -- Robert Collins rbtcoll...@hp.com Distinguished Technologist HP Converged Cloud

[openstack-dev] [pbr] help needed fixing bad version= lines in setup.cfg in many projects

2014-08-19 Thread Robert Collins
vs tag 2014.2.0 in stackforge/solum/origin/cookiecutter 2014.1.0 too low vs tag 2014.2.0 in stackforge/solum/origin/master 2014.1.0 too low vs tag 2014.2.0 in stackforge/solum/origin/readme-start -- Robert Collins rbtcoll...@hp.com Distinguished Technologist HP Converged Cloud

Re: [openstack-dev] [pbr] help needed fixing bad version= lines in setup.cfg in many projects

2014-08-19 Thread Robert Collins
Don't you hate it when just after you hit send... On 20 August 2014 13:12, Robert Collins robe...@robertcollins.net wrote: Hi, in working on pbr I have run into some bad data in our setup.cfg's. Details are here: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/bad-setup-cfg-versions Short version: we need

Re: [openstack-dev] [pbr] help needed fixing bad version= lines in setup.cfg in many projects

2014-08-19 Thread Robert Collins
On 20 August 2014 13:26, Robert Collins robe...@robertcollins.net wrote: Don't you hate it when just after you hit send... This one is actually fine, as is all the ones where the tag is a beta of the same version. I'm fixing this and another bug and will follow up shortly with a correct list

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] The future of the integrated release

2014-08-19 Thread Robert Collins
/ code namespace. Same for the Puppet modules. -Rob -- Robert Collins rbtcoll...@hp.com Distinguished Technologist HP Converged Cloud ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] The future of the integrated release

2014-08-19 Thread Robert Collins
On 20 August 2014 15:28, Robert Collins robe...@robertcollins.net wrote: I think you mean it 'can be argued'... ;). And I'd be happy if folk in those communities want to join in the deployment program and have code repositories in openstack/. To date, none have asked. Sorry

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] new testtools breaking gate

2014-08-24 Thread Robert Collins
the version of the library. So, please review, backport, and make sure it lands in project requirements files. In hindsight I should have introduced a warning for a period of time then the actual error. Sorry! -Rob -- Robert Collins rbtcoll...@hp.com Distinguished Technologist HP Converged Cloud

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ironic] [TripleO] How to gracefully quiesce a box?

2014-08-25 Thread Robert Collins
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Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron][cisco] Cisco Nexus requires patched ncclient

2014-08-25 Thread Robert Collins
Fwiw I would like to see such dependencies listed so that we can properly install trunk via automation. On 24 Aug 2014 10:43, Maru Newby ma...@redhat.com wrote: On Aug 14, 2014, at 1:55 PM, Ihar Hrachyshka ihrac...@redhat.com wrote: Signed PGP part FYI: I've uploaded a review for

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] Review metrics - what do we want to measure?

2014-09-02 Thread Robert Collins
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Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] Review metrics - what do we want to measure?

2014-09-02 Thread Robert Collins
a +2. And its evolved multiple times. What should we be saying here? Clearly its had little review input over its life, so I think its sadly accurate. I wonder if a big chunk of our sliding quartile is just use not reviewing the oldest reviews. -Rob -- Robert Collins rbtcoll...@hp.com

Re: [openstack-dev] [bashate] .bashateignore

2014-09-02 Thread Robert Collins
so we don't add files but miss checking them. -i ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev -- Robert Collins rbtcoll...@hp.com Distinguished Technologist HP

[openstack-dev] [releases] pbr, postversioning, integrated release workflow

2014-09-02 Thread Robert Collins
option over the second last, is that we don't have any mechanism to skip versions other than tagging today - and doing an alpha-0 tag at the opening of a new cycle just feels a little odd to me. -Rob -- Robert Collins rbtcoll...@hp.com Distinguished Technologist HP Converged Cloud

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ironic] (Non-)consistency of the Ironic hash ring implementation

2014-09-03 Thread Robert Collins
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Re: [openstack-dev] [Ironic] (Non-)consistency of the Ironic hash ring implementation

2014-09-03 Thread Robert Collins
On 4 September 2014 00:13, Eoghan Glynn egl...@redhat.com wrote: On 09/02/2014 11:33 PM, Robert Collins wrote: The implementation in ceilometer is very different to the Ironic one - are you saying the test you linked fails with Ironic, or that it fails with the ceilometer code today

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ironic] (Non-)consistency of the Ironic hash ring implementation

2014-09-03 Thread Robert Collins
On 4 September 2014 08:13, Robert Collins robe...@robertcollins.net wrote: On 3 September 2014 23:50, Nejc Saje ns...@redhat.com wrote: Forgive my slowness :). Disclaimer: in Ironic terms, node = conductor, key = host Sadly not inside the hash_ring code :/. host == conductor, key == data

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ironic] (Non-)consistency of the Ironic hash ring implementation

2014-09-04 Thread Robert Collins
to - partitions - number of total divisions of the hash space (power of 2 required) I've opened a bug[3], so you can add a Closes-Bug to your patch. Thanks! -Rob -- Robert Collins rbtcoll...@hp.com Distinguished Technologist HP Converged Cloud

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ironic] (Non-)consistency of the Ironic hash ring implementation

2014-09-04 Thread Robert Collins
On 4 September 2014 23:42, Nejc Saje ns...@redhat.com wrote: On 09/04/2014 11:51 AM, Robert Collins wrote: It doesn't contain that term precisely, but it does talk about replicating the buckets. What about using a descriptive name for this parameter, like 'distribution_quality', where

Re: [openstack-dev] [Zaqar] Comments on the concerns arose during the TC meeting

2014-09-05 Thread Robert Collins
would do before pushing this out to their users. Add into that their deployment support - e.g. do they have TripleO support // Chef // Fuel // Puppet etc etc etc. -Rob -- Robert Collins rbtcoll...@hp.com Distinguished Technologist HP Converged Cloud

Re: [openstack-dev] Kilo Cycle Goals Exercise

2014-09-07 Thread Robert Collins
them traffic. Because a) the post is whats disagreed with not the person; b) without the post to read we'd have no context here. -Rob -- Robert Collins rbtcoll...@hp.com Distinguished Technologist HP Converged Cloud ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list

[openstack-dev] doubling our core review bandwidth

2014-09-07 Thread Robert Collins
themes on quality are around systematic changes in design and architecture, not so much the detail of each change being made. -Rob -- Robert Collins rbtcoll...@hp.com Distinguished Technologist HP Converged Cloud ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ironic] (Non-)consistency of the Ironic hash ring implementation

2014-09-07 Thread Robert Collins
think you misunderstand the code. We do assign the number of partitions beforehand - its approximately fixed and independent of the number of buckets. More buckets == less times we hash each bucket. -Rob -- Robert Collins rbtcoll...@hp.com Distinguished Technologist HP Converged Cloud

Re: [openstack-dev] Please do *NOT* use vendorized versions of anything (here: glanceclient using requests.packages.urllib3)

2014-09-17 Thread Robert Collins
going to be happy, especially on Windows. dt OOI were thouse changes API breaks or were we depending on nonpublic aspects? -Rob -- Robert Collins rbtcoll...@hp.com Distinguished Technologist HP Converged Cloud ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list

Re: [openstack-dev] pbr alpha and dev version handling

2014-09-17 Thread Robert Collins
now it errors on an illegal operation, which is also fine for the purpose of this discussion. All we need is in the logic is to replace 'dev versions are only based on full versions' with 'dev versions are based on any tagged full or pre-release version' -Rob -- Robert Collins rbtcoll...@hp.com

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat][Zaqar] Integration plan moving forward

2014-09-20 Thread Robert Collins
in standalone mode who may not have (or want) an additional event stream service thing. They can install Zaqar in standalone mode too, if they need the functionality. I don't see that as a good reason to keep two implementations of basically the same thing. -Rob -- Robert Collins rbtcoll...@hp.com

[openstack-dev] [TripleO][elections] Not running as PTL this cycle

2014-09-21 Thread Robert Collins
in the deployment context, and I need to do better than that :). I look forward to other TripleO folk putting their hat into the ring - I'll support whoever wins in anyway I can, and I'm still going to be here hacking on TripleO and reviewing what folk are working on:) -Rob -- Robert Collins

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] In defence of faking

2014-09-22 Thread Robert Collins
fragility. Where we don't have verified fakes, making a single robust fake for the interface is a good alternative - and I'd like to see OpenStack do more of this, not less. https://thoughtstreams.io/glyph/test-patterns/5952/ is a good post from Glyph describing them. -Rob -- Robert Collins rbtcoll

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] In defence of faking

2014-09-22 Thread Robert Collins
On 23 September 2014 08:09, Jay Pipes jaypi...@gmail.com wrote: On 09/22/2014 03:36 PM, Robert Collins wrote: I'm going to push on this a bit further. Mocking is fine in many cases, but it encodes dependencies from within your objects into the test suite: e.g. that X will call Y and then Z

Re: [openstack-dev] Thoughts on OpenStack Layers and a Big Tent model

2014-09-22 Thread Robert Collins
distributed system. Swift is doing exactly the right thing today - I'd like to see more of that. -Rob -- Robert Collins rbtcoll...@hp.com Distinguished Technologist HP Converged Cloud ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org

Re: [openstack-dev] Thoughts on OpenStack Layers and a Big Tent model

2014-09-22 Thread Robert Collins
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Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] Design Summit planning

2014-09-23 Thread Robert Collins
/tripleo.2014-09-23-19.03.log.html#l-239 -Rob Cheers, Rob -- Robert Collins rbtcoll...@hp.com Distinguished Technologist HP Converged Cloud ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] [glance] python namespaces considered harmful to development, lets not introduce more of them

2014-09-23 Thread Robert Collins
/123597 - and a patch like so to each project: https://review.openstack.org/123604 I have such an olso package https://github.com/rbtcollins/oslo, if this sounds reasonable I will push up an infra patch to create it. -Rob -- Robert Collins rbtcoll...@hp.com Distinguished Technologist HP Converged

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][tripleo] New Project - Kolla: Deploy and Manage OpenStack using Kubernetes and Docker

2014-09-23 Thread Robert Collins
]. This project has been discussed with the current TripleO PTL (Robert Collins) and he seemed very supportive and agreed with the organization of the project outlined above. James Slagle, a TripleO core developer, has kindly offered to liase between Kolla and the broader TripleO community. I

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][tripleo] New Project - Kolla: Deploy and Manage OpenStack using Kubernetes and Docker

2014-09-23 Thread Robert Collins
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Re: [openstack-dev] [all] [glance] python namespaces considered harmful to development, lets not introduce more of them

2014-09-23 Thread Robert Collins
Nuts, thank you. On 24 September 2014 14:28, Mike Bayer mba...@redhat.com wrote: On Sep 23, 2014, at 7:03 PM, Robert Collins robe...@robertcollins.net wrote: On 29 August 2014 04:42, Sean Dague s...@dague.net wrote: On 08/28/2014 12:22 PM, Doug Hellmann wrote: ... The problem

Re: [openstack-dev] Thoughts on OpenStack Layers and a Big Tent model

2014-09-23 Thread Robert Collins
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Re: [openstack-dev] [all][tripleo] New Project - Kolla: Deploy and Manage OpenStack using Kubernetes and Docker

2014-09-24 Thread Robert Collins
structure and code separately: no part of TripleO has had its code blessed by the TC yet (incubation/graduation), but the team was blessed. I've no opinion on the Murano bits you raise. -Rob -- Robert Collins rbtcoll...@hp.com Distinguished Technologist HP Converged Cloud

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat] Core criteria, review stats vs reality

2013-12-09 Thread Robert Collins
to their metric, and proxy metrics will optimise to the proxy, not to the primary goal - they can and usually will be disasterous. -Rob -- Robert Collins rbtcoll...@hp.com Distinguished Technologist HP Converged Cloud ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO][Tuskar] Icehouse Requirements

2013-12-09 Thread Robert Collins
On 9 December 2013 23:56, Jaromir Coufal jcou...@redhat.com wrote: On 2013/07/12 01:59, Robert Collins wrote: * Creation * Manual registration * hardware specs from Ironic based on mac address (M) Ironic today will want IPMI address + MAC for each NIC + disk/cpu/memory

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova][TripleO] Nested resources

2013-12-09 Thread Robert Collins
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Re: [openstack-dev] [ironic][qa] How will ironic tests run in tempest?

2013-12-09 Thread Robert Collins
, but not for anything that needs a full machine. -Rob -- Robert Collins rbtcoll...@hp.com Distinguished Technologist HP Converged Cloud ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO][Tuskar] Icehouse Requirements

2013-12-09 Thread Robert Collins
... I'm not debating that we should have a list of free hardware - we totally should - I'm debating how we frame it. 'Available Nodes' or 'Undeployed machines' or whatever. I just want to get away from talking about something ([manual] allocation) that we don't offer. -Rob -- Robert Collins rbtcoll

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO][Tuskar] Icehouse Requirements

2013-12-09 Thread Robert Collins
from the bottom ('has GPU') and the constraints from the top ('needs GPU') and letting Nova and Heat sort it out. -Rob -- Robert Collins rbtcoll...@hp.com Distinguished Technologist HP Converged Cloud ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat] Core criteria, review stats vs reality

2013-12-09 Thread Robert Collins
to +2 land == more +2 bandwidth] and helping the project as a whole. -Rob -- Robert Collins rbtcoll...@hp.com Distinguished Technologist HP Converged Cloud ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org

Re: [openstack-dev] [Tripleo] Core reviewer update Dec

2013-12-09 Thread Robert Collins
entirely possible to be good at one and not the other, or just to do a lot of one and not the other. *And thats OK*. So all that said, I think the vote summary is: - Ghe into core - the proposed removals held for a month And we'll re-evaluate in Jan. -Rob -- Robert Collins rbtcoll...@hp.com

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] DHCP Agent Reliability

2013-12-09 Thread Robert Collins
to discard notifications during no subscriber. Which is fine: the agent repulls the full set it's running on that machine, and life goes on. -Rob -- Robert Collins rbtcoll...@hp.com Distinguished Technologist HP Converged Cloud ___ OpenStack-dev mailing

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO][Tuskar] Icehouse Requirements

2013-12-10 Thread Robert Collins
something ([manual] allocation) that we don't offer. We don't at the moment but we should :) maybe :0 -Rob -- Robert Collins rbtcoll...@hp.com Distinguished Technologist HP Converged Cloud ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org

Re: [openstack-dev] [ironic][qa] How will ironic tests run in tempest?

2013-12-10 Thread Robert Collins
and third-party testing? AIUI the criteria for acceptance is 'the thing is incubated or integrated'. -Rob -- Robert Collins rbtcoll...@hp.com Distinguished Technologist HP Converged Cloud ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org

[openstack-dev] [TripleO] getting back on the train post-summit

2013-12-11 Thread Robert Collins
the single most important thing for TripleO right now, and with a need for patches in four projects (Nova, python-novaclient, the API docs and finally in heat to expose the use of it) there is still plenty of room for folk to make sure they don't tread on each others toes. -Rob -- Robert Collins

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO][Tuskar] Terminology

2013-12-11 Thread Robert Collins
is part of setting up the 'role configuration'. Thanks for drafting this! -Rob -- Robert Collins rbtcoll...@hp.com Distinguished Technologist HP Converged Cloud ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org

[openstack-dev] [Tempest][Production] Tempest / the gate / real world load

2013-12-12 Thread Robert Collins
-gate or devstack *other than* setting up the specific scenario, think thrice - should it be a production default and set in the relevant projects default config setting. Cheers, Rob -- Robert Collins rbtcoll...@hp.com Distinguished Technologist HP Converged Cloud

[openstack-dev] [Nova] New official bugtag 'Ironic' ?

2013-12-12 Thread Robert Collins
We have official tags for most of the hypervisors, but not ironic as yet - any objections to adding one? -Rob -- Robert Collins rbtcoll...@hp.com Distinguished Technologist HP Converged Cloud ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO][Tuskar] Terminology

2013-12-12 Thread Robert Collins
On 12 December 2013 21:59, Jaromir Coufal jcou...@redhat.com wrote: On 2013/12/12 01:21, Robert Collins wrote: On 12 December 2013 08:15, Tzu-Mainn Chen tzuma...@redhat.com * MANAGEMENT NODE - a node that has been mapped with an undercloud role Pedantically, this is 'A node

Re: [openstack-dev] Announcing Fuel

2013-12-16 Thread Robert Collins
, linear IO for the target disk - much better. Rob -- Robert Collins rbtcoll...@hp.com Distinguished Technologist HP Converged Cloud ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo

Re: [openstack-dev] [testr] debugging failing testr runs

2013-12-17 Thread Robert Collins
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[openstack-dev] [Ironic] Yuriy Zveryanskyy for ironic-core?

2013-12-19 Thread Robert Collins
Yuriy seems to have been doing reviews consistently over the last three months, is catching plenty of issues. He isn't catching everything, but I think he catches approximately as much as other cores - none of us catch everything. -Rob -- Robert Collins rbtcoll...@hp.com Distinguished

[openstack-dev] meeting times and rotations etc...

2013-12-19 Thread Robert Collins
*anyway* so I think it's ok for the PTL (for instance) to not be at every meeting. Thoughts? -Rob -- Robert Collins rbtcoll...@hp.com Distinguished Technologist HP Converged Cloud ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http

[openstack-dev] [Nova] Default ephemeral filesystem

2013-12-19 Thread Robert Collins
why baremetal deploys were slow :)). -Rob -- Robert Collins rbtcoll...@hp.com Distinguished Technologist HP Converged Cloud ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack

Re: [openstack-dev] [bugs] definition of triaged

2013-12-19 Thread Robert Collins
On 16 December 2013 23:56, Thierry Carrez thie...@openstack.org wrote: Robert Collins wrote: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/BugTriage is a 10 step process: thats not something we can sensible do over coffee in the morning. Totally agree with that. The idea of those 10 steps was not meant

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Default ephemeral filesystem

2013-12-20 Thread Robert Collins
Thats certainly a logical extension to the system, but orthogonal to fixing a bad default IMO. Admins can already configure a filesystem per OS. -Rob On 20 December 2013 23:00, Daniel P. Berrange berra...@redhat.com wrote: On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 09:21:54AM +1300, Robert Collins wrote

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo][nova] oslo common.service vs. screen and devstack

2013-12-20 Thread Robert Collins
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Re: [openstack-dev] Process for proposing patches attached to launchpad bugs?

2013-12-22 Thread Robert Collins
death. I suggest not waiting for that and instead writing a new patch yourself. -Rob -- Robert Collins rbtcoll...@hp.com Distinguished Technologist HP Converged Cloud ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] minimum review period for functional changes that break backwards compatibility

2013-12-28 Thread Robert Collins
into an arbitrary-time warning period to users, if a cloud needs to. -Rob -- Robert Collins rbtcoll...@hp.com Distinguished Technologist HP Converged Cloud ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] minimum review period for functional changes that break backwards compatibility

2013-12-29 Thread Robert Collins
for reviews that do need to move quickly, then there is no need to solve the problem *differently* for reviews that don't. -Rob -- Robert Collins rbtcoll...@hp.com Distinguished Technologist HP Converged Cloud ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] minimum review period for functional changes that break backwards compatibility

2013-12-30 Thread Robert Collins
. But even if it didn't, the ephemeral volume is formatted by the hypervisor, the one where resize is needed is the root device, which is separate. -Rob -- Robert Collins rbtcoll...@hp.com Distinguished Technologist HP Converged Cloud ___ OpenStack-dev

Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack-Dev] IDE extensions in .gitignore

2013-12-31 Thread Robert Collins
match names we'd genuinely want to add. -Rob -- Robert Collins rbtcoll...@hp.com Distinguished Technologist HP Converged Cloud ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo

[openstack-dev] [Tripleo] reviewer review Jan

2013-12-31 Thread Robert Collins
I'm going to skip this this month: with most folk having ~2 weeks of leave there's only an effective 2 weeks of delta - both in practice for new reviewers, and in changes to track for existing -core since the last review - it seems a little pointless. -Rob -- Robert Collins rbtcoll...@hp.com

[openstack-dev] [TripleO] Docker and TripleO

2013-12-31 Thread Robert Collins
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[openstack-dev] [TripleO] Next weeks meeting cancelled?

2014-01-02 Thread Robert Collins
A bunch of the TripleO folk are going to be at LCA. I'd like to cancel the meeting rather than get them all up at (IIRC) 3am. If folk who aren't going want to hold the meeting, thats fine - but I won't be around to chair :) Cheers, Rob -- Robert Collins rbtcoll...@hp.com Distinguished

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] minimum review period for functional changes that break backwards compatibility

2014-01-02 Thread Robert Collins
a hypothesis. If ops focused folk spent an hour a day reviewing upcoming changes I'm fairly certain they would both be listened to and eventually earn core wings. -Rob -- Robert Collins rbtcoll...@hp.com Distinguished Technologist HP Converged Cloud

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][qa] Parallel testing update

2014-01-02 Thread Robert Collins
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Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Turbo-hipster

2014-01-02 Thread Robert Collins
already. -Rob -- Robert Collins rbtcoll...@hp.com Distinguished Technologist HP Converged Cloud ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] Docker and TripleO

2014-01-02 Thread Robert Collins
machines and for some of them we choose to subdivide', or should it be an undercloud service - 'you can ask for machines or containers'. To my mind there are too many unknowns to meaningfully design at this point. We'll need to do a bunch of experiments to learn the constraints -Rob -- Robert

Re: [openstack-dev] [requirements] - taskflow preventing sqla 0.8 upgrade

2014-01-03 Thread Robert Collins
the issue Sean is pointing at, which is that we have to fix the libraries first and then the things that use them. OTOH thats normal in the software world, I don't see anything unique about it. -Rob -- Robert Collins rbtcoll...@hp.com Distinguished Technologist HP Converged Cloud

Re: [openstack-dev] [qa] Use test scenarios for interface type and auth version

2014-01-03 Thread Robert Collins
: raise AttributeError Ugh, don't override __getattr__ (or __getattribute__) for something like this. ETOOMUCHMAGIC. def self.get_client(self, attr): Will be much more obvious. Cheers, Rob -- Robert Collins rbtcoll...@hp.com Distinguished Technologist HP Converged Cloud

Re: [openstack-dev] [requirements] - taskflow preventing sqla 0.8 upgrade

2014-01-04 Thread Robert Collins
guarantees, so the point when we will hit an incompatible change to a stable API is the 2 transition. -Rob -- Robert Collins rbtcoll...@hp.com Distinguished Technologist HP Converged Cloud ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Requesting nova core to review 57614

2014-01-06 Thread Robert Collins
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Re: [openstack-dev] [qa] negative test generation and testscenarios

2014-01-06 Thread Robert Collins
On 7 January 2014 07:41, David Kranz dkr...@redhat.com wrote: Thanks to all who looked at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/64733/. There were a few minor issues I will address but the biggest one was the suggestion to run each variation as a separate test case using testscenarios. After

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] Installing from packages in tripleo-image-elements

2014-01-07 Thread Robert Collins
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Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] Installing from packages in tripleo-image-elements

2014-01-07 Thread Robert Collins
in packages to share effort between teams installing OpenStack in more traditional ways and those getting on the TripleO pipeline. I'm not disputing the possible downsides intrinsic to packages, particularly the not-at-scale temptation to create non automated snowflakes :) -Rob -- Robert Collins

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] Installing from packages in tripleo-image-elements

2014-01-07 Thread Robert Collins
building on a packaging toolchain are going to often be in catchup mode - I think we need to anticipate package based environments running against releases rather than CD. -Rob -- Robert Collins rbtcoll...@hp.com Distinguished Technologist HP Converged Cloud

Re: [openstack-dev] os-*-config in tripleo repositories

2014-01-09 Thread Robert Collins
the whole production-ready concept. So +1 on the other bits, but -2 on using git. We should use the git version when landing a change to the package, the released version otherwise. -Rob -- Robert Collins rbtcoll...@hp.com Distinguished Technologist HP Converged Cloud

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Organizing a Gate Blocking Bug Fix Day

2014-01-10 Thread Robert Collins
of their project to do the same. Am in. -Rob -- Robert Collins rbtcoll...@hp.com Distinguished Technologist HP Converged Cloud ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Bogus -1 scores from turbo hipster

2014-01-10 Thread Robert Collins
and test it etc). I think we should set some confidence interval - e.g. 95% - and then from that we can calculate how many runs we need to be confident it won't occur more than that often. The number of runs will be more than 3 though :). -Rob -- Robert Collins rbtcoll...@hp.com Distinguished

Re: [openstack-dev] [Gantt] Looking for some answers...

2014-01-10 Thread Robert Collins
will have deprecated the nova scheduler code and have moved to gantt. We need to do the gantt client tree too, it's up but not sorted like the server is. This tree is what nova should import to get the RPC definitions to talk to gantt. -Rob -- Robert Collins rbtcoll...@hp.com Distinguished

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] where to expose network quota

2014-01-10 Thread Robert Collins
for this. -Rob -- Robert Collins rbtcoll...@hp.com Distinguished Technologist HP Converged Cloud ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev

Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack-Dev] IDE extensions in .gitignore

2014-01-10 Thread Robert Collins
is toxic about the few rules needed to handle common editors? -Rob -- Robert Collins rbtcoll...@hp.com Distinguished Technologist HP Converged Cloud ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin

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