Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO][heat] a small experiment with Ansible in TripleO

2014-08-11 Thread Steven Hardy
On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 11:20:50AM -0700, Clint Byrum wrote: Excerpts from Zane Bitter's message of 2014-08-11 08:16:56 -0700: On 11/08/14 10:46, Clint Byrum wrote: Right now we're stuck with an update that just doesn't work. It isn't just about update-failure-recovery, which is coming

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] The future of the integrated release

2014-08-13 Thread Steven Hardy
On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 11:42:52AM +0100, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: On Thu, Aug 07, 2014 at 03:56:04AM -0700, Jay Pipes wrote: On 08/07/2014 02:12 AM, Kashyap Chamarthy wrote: On Thu, Aug 07, 2014 at 07:10:23AM +1000, Michael Still wrote: On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 2:03 AM, Thierry Carrez

Re: [openstack-dev] Criteria for giving a -1 in a review

2014-08-22 Thread Steven Hardy
On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 05:05:04PM +0100, Matthew Booth wrote: I would prefer that you didn't merge this. i.e. The project is better off without it. I'm not quite sure how you make that translation, I would interpret -2 as meaning the project would be better off without a change. FWIW, I've

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] Heat Juno Mid-cycle Meetup report

2014-08-26 Thread Steven Hardy
On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 03:39:24PM -0400, Zane Bitter wrote: We held the inaugural Heat mid-cycle meetup in Raleigh, North Carolina this week. There were a dozen folks in attendance, and I think everyone agreed that it was a very successful event. Notes from the meetup are on the Etherpad

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] [Keystone] Heat cfn-push-stats failed with '403 SignatureDoesNotMatch', it may be Keystone problem.

2014-08-26 Thread Steven Hardy
On Sun, Aug 24, 2014 at 02:55:14PM +0900, Yukinori Sagara wrote: Hi. I am trying Heat instance HA, using RDO Icehouse. After instance boot, instance push own stats to heat alarm with cfn-push-stats command. But cfn-push-stats always failed with error '403

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] Heat Juno Mid-cycle Meetup report

2014-08-27 Thread Steven Hardy
On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 02:39:09PM +0530, Jyoti Ranjan wrote: I am curious to know about Swift role here. Can you elaborate little bit please? I think Zane already covered it with We just want people to stop polling us, because it's killing our performance. Basically, if we provide the

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] Heat Juno Mid-cycle Meetup report

2014-08-27 Thread Steven Hardy
On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 07:54:41PM +0530, Jyoti Ranjan wrote: I am little bit skeptical about using Swift for this use case because of its eventual consistency issue. I am not sure Swift cluster is good to be used for this kind of problem. Please note that Swift cluster may give you

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] Heat Juno Mid-cycle Meetup report

2014-08-27 Thread Steven Hardy
On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 11:41:29AM -0400, Zane Bitter wrote: On 27/08/14 11:04, Steven Hardy wrote: On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 07:54:41PM +0530, Jyoti Ranjan wrote: I am little bit skeptical about using Swift for this use case because of its eventual consistency issue. I am not sure Swift

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] Heat Juno Mid-cycle Meetup report

2014-08-27 Thread Steven Hardy
On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 09:40:31AM -0700, Clint Byrum wrote: Excerpts from Zane Bitter's message of 2014-08-27 08:41:29 -0700: On 27/08/14 11:04, Steven Hardy wrote: On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 07:54:41PM +0530, Jyoti Ranjan wrote: I am little bit skeptical about using Swift for this use

Re: [openstack-dev] [qa][all][Heat] Packaging of functional tests

2014-09-04 Thread Steven Hardy
On Thu, Sep 04, 2014 at 10:45:59AM -0400, Jay Pipes wrote: On 08/29/2014 05:15 PM, Zane Bitter wrote: On 29/08/14 14:27, Jay Pipes wrote: On 08/26/2014 10:14 AM, Zane Bitter wrote: Steve Baker has started the process of moving Heat tests out of the Tempest repository and into the Heat

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] Defining what is a SupportStatus version

2014-09-05 Thread Steven Hardy
On Fri, Sep 05, 2014 at 03:56:34PM +1000, Angus Salkeld wrote: On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 3:29 PM, Gauvain Pocentek gauvain.pocen...@objectif-libre.com wrote: Hi, A bit of background: I'm working on the publication of the HOT resources reference on docs.openstack.org.

Re: [openstack-dev] doubling our core review bandwidth

2014-09-08 Thread Steven Hardy
On Mon, Sep 08, 2014 at 03:14:24PM +1200, Robert Collins wrote: I hope the subject got your attention :). This might be a side effect of my having too many cosmic rays, but its been percolating for a bit. tl;dr I think we should drop our 'needs 2x+2 to land' rule and instead use 'needs

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] Request for python-heatclient project to adopt heat-translator

2014-09-09 Thread Steven Hardy
Hi Sahdev, On Tue, Sep 02, 2014 at 11:52:30AM -0400, Sahdev P Zala wrote: Hello guys, As you know, the heat-translator project was started early this year with an aim to create a tool to translate non-Heat templates to HOT. It is a StackForge project licensed under Apache 2.

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] Review metrics - what do we want to measure?

2014-09-10 Thread Steven Hardy
On Thu, Sep 04, 2014 at 01:54:20PM +, Jeremy Stanley wrote: On 2014-09-04 11:01:55 +0100 (+0100), Derek Higgins wrote: [...] How would people feel about turning [auto-abandon] back on? A lot of reviewers (myself among them) feel auto-abandon was a cold and emotionless way to provide

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] [clients] [keystone] lack of retrying tokens leads to overall OpenStack fragility

2014-09-10 Thread Steven Hardy
On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 10:14:32AM -0400, Sean Dague wrote: Going through the untriaged Nova bugs, and there are a few on a similar pattern: Nova operation in progress takes a while Crosses keystone token expiration time Timeout thrown Operation fails Terrible 500 error sent back to

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Bringing back auto-abandon (was: Review metrics - what do we want to measure?)

2014-09-10 Thread Steven Hardy
On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 04:37:14PM +, Jeremy Stanley wrote: On 2014-09-10 09:57:17 +0100 (+0100), Steven Hardy wrote: I can understand this argument, and perhaps an auto-abandon with a long period like say a month for the submitter to address comments and reset the clock would

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] referencing the index of a ResourceGroup

2014-09-11 Thread Steven Hardy
On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 04:44:01PM -0500, Jason Greathouse wrote: I'm trying to find a way to create a set of servers and attach a new volume to each server. I first tried to use block_device_mapping but that requires an existing snapshot or volume and the deployment would fail

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] [clients] [keystone] lack of retrying tokens leads to overall OpenStack fragility

2014-09-11 Thread Steven Hardy
On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 08:46:45PM -0400, Jamie Lennox wrote: - Original Message - From: Steven Hardy sha...@redhat.com To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 1:55:49 AM Subject: Re

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] referencing the index of a ResourceGroup

2014-09-11 Thread Steven Hardy
On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 10:06:01AM -0500, Jason Greathouse wrote: My mistake about the mailing list, The openstack heat wiki page (https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Heat) only lists the dev list. I will make sure to ask future usage questions on the other one. No worries, we should

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] [clients] [keystone] lack of retrying tokens leads to overall OpenStack fragility

2014-09-12 Thread Steven Hardy
On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 08:43:22PM -0400, Jamie Lennox wrote: - Original Message - From: Steven Hardy sha...@redhat.com To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Sent: Friday, 12 September, 2014 12:21:52 AM Subject

[openstack-dev] [tripleo][heat][ironic] Heat Ironic resources and ready state orchestration

2014-09-15 Thread Steven Hardy
All, Starting this thread as a follow-up to a strongly negative reaction by the Ironic PTL to my patches[1] adding initial Heat-Ironic integration, and subsequent very detailed justification and discussion of why they may be useful in this spec[2]. Back in Atlanta, I had some discussions with

Re: [openstack-dev] [tripleo][heat][ironic] Heat Ironic resources and ready state orchestration

2014-09-15 Thread Steven Hardy
On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 11:15:21AM -0400, James Slagle wrote: On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 7:44 AM, Steven Hardy sha...@redhat.com wrote: All, Starting this thread as a follow-up to a strongly negative reaction by the Ironic PTL to my patches[1] adding initial Heat-Ironic integration

Re: [openstack-dev] [tripleo][heat][ironic] Heat Ironic resources and ready state orchestration

2014-09-15 Thread Steven Hardy
On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 09:50:24AM -0700, Clint Byrum wrote: Excerpts from Steven Hardy's message of 2014-09-15 04:44:24 -0700: All, Starting this thread as a follow-up to a strongly negative reaction by the Ironic PTL to my patches[1] adding initial Heat-Ironic integration, and

Re: [openstack-dev] [tripleo][heat][ironic] Heat Ironic resources and ready state orchestration

2014-09-15 Thread Steven Hardy
On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 05:51:43PM +, Jay Faulkner wrote: Steven, It's important to note that two of the blueprints you reference: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ironic/+spec/drac-raid-mgmt https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ironic/+spec/drac-hw-discovery are both very unlikely to

Re: [openstack-dev] Heat dependency visualisation

2014-09-16 Thread Steven Hardy
On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 03:34:28PM +1200, Steve Baker wrote: On 16/09/14 03:24, Alexis Lee wrote: For your amusement, https://github.com/lxsli/heat-viz This produces HTML which shows which StructuredDeployments (boxes) depends_on each other (bold arrows). It also shows the

Re: [openstack-dev] [tripleo][heat][ironic] Heat Ironic resources and ready state orchestration

2014-09-17 Thread Steven Hardy
, Devananda van der Veen wrote: On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 9:00 AM, Steven Hardy sha...@redhat.com wrote: For example, today, I've been looking at the steps required for driving autodiscovery: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/Ironic-PoCDiscovery-Juno Driving this process looks a lot

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] Request for python-heatclient project to adopt heat-translator

2014-09-23 Thread Steven Hardy
On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 06:54:27PM -0400, Zane Bitter wrote: On 09/09/14 05:52, Steven Hardy wrote: Hi Sahdev, On Tue, Sep 02, 2014 at 11:52:30AM -0400, Sahdev P Zala wrote: Hello guys, As you know, the heat-translator project was started early this year with an aim

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat] Core criteria, review stats vs reality

2013-12-09 Thread Steven Hardy
On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 08:34:04AM +1300, Robert Collins wrote: On 10 December 2013 00:31, Steven Hardy sha...@redhat.com wrote: Hi all, So I've been getting concerned about $subject recently, and based on some recent discussions so have some other heat-core folks, so I wanted to start

[openstack-dev] [keystone][heat] ec2tokens, v3 credentials and request signing

2013-12-09 Thread Steven Hardy
Hi all, I have some queries about what the future of the ec2tokens API is for keystone, context as we're looking to move Heat from a horrible mixture of v2/v3 keystone to just v3, currently I'm not sure we can: - The v3/credentials API allows ec2tokens to be stored (if you create the

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat] Core criteria, review stats vs reality

2013-12-09 Thread Steven Hardy
On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 11:25:49AM +1300, Robert Collins wrote: On 10 December 2013 11:04, Steven Hardy sha...@redhat.com wrote: So it's a gross mischaracterisation to imply that a democratic process aided by some [crude] stats has been reduced to name shame, and a rather offensive one

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] workflow for fixes involving numerous changes

2013-12-10 Thread Steven Hardy
On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 11:45:11AM +0200, Pavlo Shchelokovskyy wrote: Hi all, I am fixing assertions in unittests now (initially https://bugs.launchpad.net/heat/+bug/1259023). I've seen that Clint have split this bug into three separate bugs, one per assertion misuse type. As these changes

Re: [openstack-dev] [keystone][heat] ec2tokens, v3 credentials and request signing

2013-12-10 Thread Steven Hardy
On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 08:12:17AM -0600, Dolph Mathews wrote: On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 9:08 PM, Adam Young ayo...@redhat.com wrote: On 12/09/2013 05:34 PM, Steven Hardy wrote: Hi all, I have some queries about what the future of the ec2tokens API is for keystone, context

Re: [openstack-dev] State of the Gate - Dec 12

2013-12-12 Thread Steven Hardy
On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 08:20:09AM -0500, Sean Dague wrote: Current Gate Length: 12hrs*, 41 deep (top of gate entered 12hrs ago) It's been an *exciting* week this week. For people not paying attention we had 2 external events which made things terrible earlier in the week.

Re: [openstack-dev] OS::Metering::Alarm?

2013-12-17 Thread Steven Hardy
On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 08:59:19AM +, Sebastian Porombka wrote: Hi Folks. I’m currently trying to understand the openstack mechanics in detail (e.g. to fix various ec2 api shortcomings) and reached heat. I tried to add heat to our on-premise installation and failed to try the

Re: [openstack-dev] Fwd: New feature proposal: send additional headers in API calls

2013-12-17 Thread Steven Hardy
On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 10:37:05AM +0100, Yolanda Robla wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi I just wanted to raise a new feature proposal request we are interested in. We are interested in sending additional API calls in headers, in each openstack component. A sample

Re: [openstack-dev] Fwd: New feature proposal: send additional headers in API calls

2013-12-17 Thread Steven Hardy
On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 12:41:52PM +0100, Yolanda Robla wrote: We mostly want that to be able to send distro information into Openstack, to be able to collect stats about it. Here is the blueprint for it: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-s-server-app-banner-updates

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat] Nomination for heat-core

2013-12-19 Thread Steven Hardy
On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 03:21:46PM +1300, Steve Baker wrote: I would like to nominate Bartosz Górski to be a heat-core reviewer. His reviews to date have been valuable and his other contributions to the project have shown a sound understanding of how heat works. Here is his review history:

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] Windows Support

2014-01-09 Thread Steven Hardy
Hi Winson, On Wed, Jan 08, 2014 at 08:41:16PM +, Chan, Winson C wrote: Does anybody know if this blueprint is being actively work on? https://blueprints.launchpad.net/heat/+spec/windows-instances If this is not active, can I take ownership of this blueprint? My team wants to add

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] Reducing pep8 ignores

2014-01-22 Thread Steven Hardy
On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 01:23:05PM +0200, Pavlo Shchelokovskyy wrote: Hi all, we have an approved blueprint that concerns reducing number of ignored PEP8 and openstack/hacking style checks for heat ( https://blueprints.launchpad.net/heat/+spec/reduce-flake8-ignored-rules). I've been already

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] Reducing pep8 ignores

2014-01-23 Thread Steven Hardy
On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 07:54:34AM +1000, Angus Salkeld wrote: On 22/01/14 12:21 +, Steven Hardy wrote: On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 01:23:05PM +0200, Pavlo Shchelokovskyy wrote: Hi all, we have an approved blueprint that concerns reducing number of ignored PEP8 and openstack/hacking style

[openstack-dev] [keystone][heat] Migration to keystone v3 API questions

2014-01-23 Thread Steven Hardy
Hi all, I've recently been working on migrating the heat internal interfaces to use the keystone v3 API exclusively[1]. This work has mostly been going well, but I've hit a couple of issues which I wanted to discuss, so we agree the most appropriate workarounds: 1. keystoneclient v3

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat] Nominate Jason Dunsmore for heat-core

2014-02-10 Thread Steven Hardy
On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 11:38:40AM +1300, Steve Baker wrote: I would like to nominate Jason Dunsmore for heat-core. His reviews are valuable and prolific, his code contributions have demonstrated a good knowledge of heat internals, and he has endured a sound hazing to get multi-engine into

Re: [openstack-dev] [Murano] Heat resource isolation withing single stack

2014-02-21 Thread Steven Hardy
On Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 06:37:27PM +0400, Stan Lagun wrote: Hi Everyone, While looking through Heat templates generation code in Murano I've realized it has a major design flaw: there is no isolation between Heat resources generated by different apps. Can you define the requirement for

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][keystone] Increase of USER_ID length maximum from 64 to 255

2014-02-25 Thread Steven Hardy
On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 11:47:43AM -0800, Morgan Fainberg wrote: For purposes of supporting multiple backends for Identity (multiple LDAP, mix of LDAP and SQL, federation, etc) Keystone is planning to increase the maximum size of the USER_ID field from an upper limit of 64 to an upper limit

[openstack-dev] [heat]Policy on upgades required config changes

2014-03-04 Thread Steven Hardy
Hi all, As some of you know, I've been working on the instance-users blueprint[1]. This blueprint implementation requires three new items to be added to the heat.conf, or some resources (those which create keystone users) will not work: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/73978/

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat]Policy on upgades required config changes

2014-03-05 Thread Steven Hardy
On Tue, Mar 04, 2014 at 02:06:16PM -0800, Clint Byrum wrote: Excerpts from Steven Hardy's message of 2014-03-04 09:39:21 -0800: Hi all, As some of you know, I've been working on the instance-users blueprint[1]. This blueprint implementation requires three new items to be added to the

Re: [openstack-dev] [qa] [heat] [neutron] - Status of Heat and Neutron tempest blueprints?

2014-03-06 Thread Steven Hardy
On Thu, Mar 06, 2014 at 07:53:03AM -0500, Sean Dague wrote: We're at Freeze, so I want to pick up and understand where we currently stand with both Neutron and Heat actually getting tested fully in the gate. First Neutron -

[openstack-dev] [heat] FFE for instance-users

2014-03-06 Thread Steven Hardy
Hi all, We've not quite managed to land the last few patches for instance-users in time for FF: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/heat/+spec/instance-users https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/heat+branch:master+topic:bug/1089261,n,z This is due to a combination of

Re: [openstack-dev] stored userdata

2014-03-07 Thread Steven Hardy
On Fri, Mar 07, 2014 at 05:05:46AM +, Hiroyuki Eguchi wrote: I'm envisioning a stored userdata feature. https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/stored-userdata Currently, OpenStack allow user to execute script or send configuration file when creating a instance by using --user-data

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat]Policy on upgades required config changes

2014-03-11 Thread Steven Hardy
Hi Keith Clint, On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 05:05:21AM +, Keith Bray wrote: I want to echo Clint's responses... We do run close to Heat master here at Rackspace, and we'd be happy to set up a non-voting job to notify when a review would break Heat on our cloud if that would be beneficial.

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat]Policy on upgades required config changes

2014-03-11 Thread Steven Hardy
On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 07:04:32AM -0400, Sean Dague wrote: On 03/04/2014 12:39 PM, Steven Hardy wrote: Hi all, As some of you know, I've been working on the instance-users blueprint[1]. This blueprint implementation requires three new items to be added to the heat.conf, or some

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat] Managing changes to the Hot Specification (hot_spec.rst)

2014-04-07 Thread Steven Hardy
On Sun, Apr 06, 2014 at 11:23:28AM -0700, Steven Dake wrote: Hi folks, There are two problems we should address regarding the growth and change to the HOT specification. First our +2/+A process for normal changes doesn't totally make sense for hot_spec.rst. We generally have some

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat] Managing changes to the Hot Specification (hot_spec.rst)

2014-04-07 Thread Steven Hardy
On Mon, Apr 07, 2014 at 09:30:50AM +0200, Thomas Spatzier wrote: From: Steve Baker sba...@redhat.com To: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Date: 06/04/2014 22:32 Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [heat] Managing changes to the Hot Specification (hot_spec.rst) On 07/04/14 06:23, Steven

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat] Problems with Heat software configurations and KeystoneV2

2014-04-07 Thread Steven Hardy
On Sun, Apr 06, 2014 at 10:22:15PM -0400, Michael Elder wrote: If Keystone is configured with an external identity provider (LDAP, OpenID, etc), how does the creation of a new user per resource affect that external identity source? My understanding is that it should be possible to configure

Re: [openstack-dev] Operators Design Summit ideas for Atlanta

2014-04-08 Thread Steven Hardy
On Wed, Apr 02, 2014 at 08:24:00AM -0500, Dolph Mathews wrote: On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 10:40 PM, Adam Young ayo...@redhat.com wrote: On 03/28/2014 03:01 AM, Tom Fifield wrote: Thanks to those projects that responded. I've proposed sessions in swift, ceilometer, tripleO and horizon.

Re: [openstack-dev] Operators Design Summit ideas for Atlanta

2014-04-08 Thread Steven Hardy
On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 03:01:30PM +0800, Tom Fifield wrote: Thanks to those projects that responded. I've proposed sessions in swift, ceilometer, tripleO and horizon. I just created a session for Heat: http://summit.openstack.org/cfp/details/247 Historically Heat sessions have been quite

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] HOT Software orchestration proposal for workflows

2013-10-09 Thread Steven Hardy
On Wed, Oct 09, 2013 at 12:53:45AM +0400, Stan Lagun wrote: Hello, I’m one of the engineer working on Murano project. Recently we started a discussion about Murano and Heat Software orchestration and I want to continue this discussion with more technical details. Thanks, we're certainly

[openstack-dev] [Heat] Meeting agenda for Wed Oct 9th at 2000 UTC

2013-10-09 Thread Steven Hardy
The Heat team holds a weekly meeting in #openstack-meeting, see https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/HeatAgenda for more details The next meeting is on Wed Oct 9th at 2000 UTC Current topics for discussion: * Review last week's actions * RC2 bug status *

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] HOT Software configuration proposal

2013-10-16 Thread Steven Hardy
On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 09:21:12PM -0400, Mike Spreitzer wrote: Steve Baker sba...@redhat.com wrote on 10/15/2013 06:48:53 PM: From: Steve Baker sba...@redhat.com To: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org, Date: 10/15/2013 06:51 PM Subject: [openstack-dev] [Heat] HOT Software configuration

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat]Blueprint for retry function with idenpotency in Heat

2013-10-18 Thread Steven Hardy
On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 12:13:45PM +1300, Steve Baker wrote: On 10/18/2013 01:54 AM, Mitsuru Kanabuchi wrote: Hello Mr. Clint, Thank you for your comment and prioritization. I'm glad to discuss you who feel same issue. I took the liberty of targeting your blueprint at icehouse. If you

[openstack-dev] [qa][keystone] Adding client library related tests to tempest

2013-10-18 Thread Steven Hardy
Hi all, Starting a thread to discuss $subject, as requested in: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/51558/ First a bit of background. I wrote a keystoneclient patch, and ayoung stated he'd like it tested via tempest before he'd ack it: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/48462/ So I spoke to

Re: [openstack-dev] [qa][keystone] Adding client library related tests to tempest

2013-10-19 Thread Steven Hardy
On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 01:48:08PM -0400, Sean Dague wrote: So v3 keystone API is one thing, but I'm a little concerned with moving the client testing to Tempest haphazardly. If we are testing the API surface on the servers, the clients should be able to correctly test all of this via a mock

Re: [openstack-dev] [qa][keystone] Adding client library related tests to tempest

2013-10-21 Thread Steven Hardy
On Sat, Oct 19, 2013 at 07:45:33AM -0400, Sean Dague wrote: On 10/19/2013 04:46 AM, Steven Hardy wrote: On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 01:48:08PM -0400, Sean Dague wrote: So v3 keystone API is one thing, but I'm a little concerned with moving the client testing to Tempest haphazardly. If we

Re: [openstack-dev] [qa][keystone] Adding client library related tests to tempest

2013-10-21 Thread Steven Hardy
On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 08:14:03AM -0400, Sean Dague wrote: On 10/21/2013 05:19 AM, Steven Hardy wrote: snip Definitely agree we should have plenty of end-to-end tests in the gate, it's the reason we've got the scenario tests, to do exactly this kind of through testing. Ok, it seems like

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] A prototype for cross-vm synchronization and communication

2013-10-21 Thread Steven Hardy
On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 02:45:01PM -0400, Lakshminaraya Renganarayana wrote: snip The prototype is implemented in Python and Ruby is used for chef interception. Where can we find the code? ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] Comments on Steve Baker's Proposal on HOT Software Config

2013-10-28 Thread Steven Hardy
On Sun, Oct 27, 2013 at 11:23:20PM -0400, Lakshminaraya Renganarayana wrote: A few us at IBM studied Steve Baker's proposal on HOT Software Configuration. Overall the proposed constructs and syntax are great -- we really like the clean syntax and concise specification of components. We would

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] Network topologies

2013-10-28 Thread Steven Hardy
On Sun, Oct 27, 2013 at 08:37:15AM -0700, Edgar Magana wrote: Heat Developers, I am one of the core developers for Neutron who is lately working on the concept of Network Topologies. I want to discuss with you if the following blueprint will make sense to have in heat or neutron code:

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] Comments on Steve Baker's Proposal on HOT Software Config

2013-10-28 Thread Steven Hardy
On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 02:33:40PM +, Randall Burt wrote: On Oct 28, 2013, at 8:53 AM, Steven Hardy sha...@redhat.com wrote: On Sun, Oct 27, 2013 at 11:23:20PM -0400, Lakshminaraya Renganarayana wrote: A few us at IBM studied Steve Baker's proposal on HOT Software Configuration

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] Network topologies [and more]

2013-10-28 Thread Steven Hardy
On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 10:07:08AM -0400, Mike Spreitzer wrote: Zane Bitter zbit...@redhat.com wrote on 10/28/2013 06:47:50 AM: On 27/10/13 16:37, Edgar Magana wrote: Heat Developers, I am one of the core developers for Neutron who is lately working on the concept of Network

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat] Proposal for new heat-core member

2013-10-29 Thread Steven Hardy
On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 12:12:54PM -0700, Steven Dake wrote: Please have a vote +1/-1 +1 ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] Network topologies

2013-10-29 Thread Steven Hardy
On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 01:19:13PM -0700, Edgar Magana wrote: Hello Folks, Thank you Zane, Steven and Clint for you input. Our main goal in this BP is to provide networking users such as Heat (we consider it as a neutron user) a better and consolidated network building block in terms of

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] Comments on Steve Baker's Proposal on HOT Software Config

2013-10-29 Thread Steven Hardy
On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 04:48:45PM -0400, Mike Spreitzer wrote: Steve Baker sba...@redhat.com wrote on 10/28/2013 04:24:30 PM: On 10/29/2013 02:53 AM, Steven Hardy wrote: ... Can anyone provide me with a clear argument for what the fundamental differences actually are? ... Since

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] Comments on Steve Baker's Proposal on HOT Software Config

2013-10-29 Thread Steven Hardy
On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 02:34:44PM -0700, Georgy Okrokvertskhov wrote: I believe we had a discussion about difference between declarative approach and workflows. A component approach is consistent with declarative format as all actions\operations are hidden inside the service. If you want to

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] Comments on Steve Baker's Proposal on HOT Software Config

2013-10-29 Thread Steven Hardy
On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 01:50:59PM +0100, Zane Bitter wrote: On 28/10/13 14:53, Steven Hardy wrote: On Sun, Oct 27, 2013 at 11:23:20PM -0400, Lakshminaraya Renganarayana wrote: A few us at IBM studied Steve Baker's proposal on HOT Software Configuration. Overall the proposed constructs

Re: [openstack-dev] Revisiting current column number limit in code

2013-10-30 Thread Steven Hardy
On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 10:45:57AM +0200, Roman Prykhodchenko wrote: If a line of code is complex enough to not fit 80 symbols I'd suggest simplifying the algorithm. Btw, some of displays can be turned for 90˚ so this might be a way to go with graphical IDEs :) Agreed, I think Linus Torvalds

Re: [openstack-dev] When is it okay for submitters to say 'I don't want to add tests' ?

2013-10-31 Thread Steven Hardy
On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 01:30:32PM +, Mark McLoughlin wrote: On Thu, 2013-10-31 at 15:37 +1300, Robert Collins wrote: This is a bit of a social norms thread I've been consistently asking for tests in reviews for a while now, and I get the occasional push-back. I think this falls

[openstack-dev] [qa][keystone] Help with XML Tempest API tests

2013-10-31 Thread Steven Hardy
Hi all, So firstly, if you're an XML guru, I apologize, the questions below are probably really basic, I always prefer JSON or YAML, because every time I deal with XML, I get a week-long-headache ;) So I'm writing Tempest API tests for the keystone OS-TRUST extension, as was previously requested

Re: [openstack-dev] [qa][keystone] Help with XML Tempest API tests

2013-11-01 Thread Steven Hardy
On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 09:40:46PM -0400, Adam Young wrote: snip I think it is safe to say that the trusts API is broken in XML. I added the following test: diff --git a/keystone/tests/test_v3_auth.py b/keystone/tests/test_v3_auth.py index c0e191b..6a0c10c 100644 ---

[openstack-dev] [oslo][heat] oslo.db session and model_query()

2013-11-11 Thread Steven Hardy
Hi all, I've been digging into our DB API code, aiming to align it more closely with the recommendations in the oslo.db docs. https://github.com/openstack/oslo-incubator/blob/master/openstack/common/db/sqlalchemy/session.py#L35 However, I'm confused by the references to model_query in the docs,

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] [heat] Custom Flavor creation through Heat

2013-11-14 Thread Steven Hardy
On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 08:22:57AM +, Kodam, Vijayakumar (EXT-Tata Consultancy Ser - FI/Espoo) wrote: snip Thanks Steve Baker for the information. I am also waiting to hear from Steve Hardy, if keystone trust system will fix the nova flavors admin privileges issue. So, basically, no.

Re: [openstack-dev] RFC: reverse the default Gerrit sort order

2013-11-14 Thread Steven Hardy
On Thu, Nov 07, 2013 at 12:36:49PM +1300, Robert Collins wrote: I've been thinking about review queues recently (since here at the summit everyone is talking about reviews! :)). One thing that struck me today was that Gerrit makes it easier to review the newest changes first, rather than the

Re: [openstack-dev] [keystone] design summit outcomes

2013-11-14 Thread Steven Hardy
On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 10:04:04AM -0600, Dolph Mathews wrote: I guarantee there's a few things I'm forgetting, but this is my collection of things we discussed at the summit and determined to be good things to pursue during the icehouse timeframe. The contents represent a high level mix of

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat][keystone] APIs, roles, request scope and admin-ness

2013-11-14 Thread Steven Hardy
On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 10:20:02AM -0600, Dolph Mathews wrote: On Sat, Nov 2, 2013 at 11:06 AM, Steven Hardy sha...@redhat.com wrote: Hi all, Looking to start a wider discussion, prompted by: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/54651/ https://blueprints.launchpad.net/heat/+spec

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] rough draft of Heat autoscaling API

2013-11-15 Thread Steven Hardy
On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 11:16:19AM +0100, Zane Bitter wrote: On 14/11/13 19:58, Christopher Armstrong wrote: On 14/11/13 18:51, Randall Burt wrote: Perhaps, but I also miss important information as a legitimate caller as to whether or not my scaling action

Re: [openstack-dev] [Solum/Heat] Is Solum really necessary?

2013-11-15 Thread Steven Hardy
On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 01:41:22PM -0500, Jay Pipes wrote: So while I have been on vacation, I've been thinking about Solum and Heat. And I have some lingering questions in my mind that make me question whether a new server project is actually necessary at all, and whether we really should

[openstack-dev] [heat][horizon]Heat UI related requirements roadmap

2013-11-25 Thread Steven Hardy
All, So, lately we've been seeing more patches posted proposing added functionality to Heat (the API and template syntax) related to development of UI functionality. This makes me both happy (because folks want to use Heat!) and sad (because it's evident there are several proprietary UI's being

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat][horizon]Heat UI related requirements roadmap

2013-11-26 Thread Steven Hardy
On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 03:04:12PM +0100, Ladislav Smola wrote: Hello, seems too big to do the inline comments, so just a few notes here: If we truly want to have Templates portable, it would mean to have the 'metadata' somehow standardised, right? Otherwise if every UI will add their own

Re: [openstack-dev] tenant or project

2013-11-27 Thread Steven Hardy
On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 10:17:56PM +1030, Christopher Yeoh wrote: On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 7:50 PM, Flavio Percoco fla...@redhat.com wrote: On 24/11/13 12:47 -0500, Doug Hellmann wrote: On Sun, Nov 24, 2013 at 12:08 AM, Morgan Fainberg m...@metacloud.com wrote: In all honesty it

Re: [openstack-dev] tenant or project

2013-11-27 Thread Steven Hardy
On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 08:17:59AM -0600, Anne Gentle wrote: Hi Steve, There was a long thread about dropping project ID/tenant ID from the URL at http://openstack.markmail.org/thread/c2wi2uwdsye32z7f Looking back through it, it looks like nova v3 has it removed

[openstack-dev] [heat] Is it time for a v2 Heat API?

2013-11-27 Thread Steven Hardy
Hi all, Recently we've been skirting around the issue of an API version bump in various reviews, so I thought I'd start a thread where we can discuss the way forward. My view is that we probably should look at creating a v2 API during Icehouse, but we need to discuss what changes make sense, and

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat] Is it time for a v2 Heat API?

2013-11-27 Thread Steven Hardy
On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 06:02:27PM +0100, Zane Bitter wrote: On 27/11/13 16:27, Steven Hardy wrote: I've raised this BP: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/heat/+spec/v2api And started a WIP wiki page where we can all work on refining what changes need to be made: https

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat] Heat API v2 - Removal of template_url?

2013-12-05 Thread Steven Hardy
On Thu, Dec 05, 2013 at 04:11:37PM +, ELISHA, Moshe (Moshe) wrote: Hey, I really liked the v2 Heat API (as proposed in Create a new v2 Heat APIhttps://blueprints.launchpad.net/heat/+spec/v2api) and I think it makes a lot of sense. One of the proposed changes is to Remove

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat] Heat API v2 - Removal of template_url?

2013-12-06 Thread Steven Hardy
On Fri, Dec 06, 2013 at 11:38:03AM +1100, Angus Salkeld wrote: On 05/12/13 17:00 +, Steven Hardy wrote: On Thu, Dec 05, 2013 at 04:11:37PM +, ELISHA, Moshe (Moshe) wrote: Hey, I really liked the v2 Heat API (as proposed in Create a new v2 Heat APIhttps://blueprints.launchpad.net

[openstack-dev] [heat] Core criteria, review stats vs reality

2013-12-09 Thread Steven Hardy
Hi all, So I've been getting concerned about $subject recently, and based on some recent discussions so have some other heat-core folks, so I wanted to start a discussion where we can agree and communicate our expectations related to nomination for heat-core membership (becuase we do need more

[openstack-dev] [heat] How to avoid property revalidation?

2014-06-15 Thread Steven Hardy
Hi all, So, I stumbled accross an issue while fixing up some tests, which is that AFAICS since Icehouse we continually revalidate every property every time they are accessed: https://github.com/openstack/heat/blob/stable/havana/heat/engine/properties.py#L716 This means that, for example, we

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] A modest proposal to reduce reviewer load

2014-06-18 Thread Steven Hardy
On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 11:04:15AM +0200, Thierry Carrez wrote: Russell Bryant wrote: On 06/17/2014 08:20 AM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: On Tue, Jun 17, 2014 at 01:12:45PM +0100, Matthew Booth wrote: On 17/06/14 12:36, Sean Dague wrote: It could go in the commit message: TrivialFix

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] fine grained quotas

2014-06-23 Thread Steven Hardy
On Thu, Jun 19, 2014 at 10:21:14PM +, Randall Burt wrote: On Jun 19, 2014, at 4:17 PM, Clint Byrum cl...@fewbar.com wrote: I was made aware of the following blueprint today: http://blueprints.launchpad.net/heat/+spec/add-quota-api-for-heat http://review.openstack.org/#/c/96696/14

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat] Sergey Kraynev for heat-core

2014-06-27 Thread Steven Hardy
On Fri, Jun 27, 2014 at 10:08:08AM +1200, Steve Baker wrote: I'd like to nominate Sergey Kraynev for heat-core. His reviews are valuable and prolific, and his commits have shown a sound understanding of heat internals. http://stackalytics.com/report/contribution/heat-group/60 +1

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat] health maintenance in autoscaling groups

2014-07-02 Thread Steven Hardy
On Wed, Jul 02, 2014 at 03:02:14PM +0800, Qiming Teng wrote: Just some random thoughts below ... On Tue, Jul 01, 2014 at 03:47:03PM -0400, Mike Spreitzer wrote: In AWS, an autoscaling group includes health maintenance functionality --- both an ability to detect basic forms of failures and

Re: [openstack-dev] [heat] One more lifecycle plug point - in scaling groups

2014-07-02 Thread Steven Hardy
On Wed, Jul 02, 2014 at 02:41:19AM +, Adrian Otto wrote: Zane, If you happen to have a link to this blueprint, could you reply with it? I took a look, but did not find it. I'd like to suggest that the implementation allow apps to call unauthenticated (signed) webhook URLs

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