Re: [openstack-dev] [FEMDC] [Edge] [tripleo] On the use of terms "Edge" and "Far Edge"

2018-10-18 Thread Jay Pipes

On 10/18/2018 10:23 AM, Dmitry Tantsur wrote:

Hi all,

Sorry for chiming in really late in this topic, but I think $subj is 
worth discussing until we settle harder on the potentially confusing 
terminology.


I think the difference between "Edge" and "Far Edge" is too vague to use 
these terms in practice. Think about the "edge" metaphor itself: 
something rarely has several layers of edges. A knife has an edge, there 
are no far edges. I imagine zooming in and seeing more edges at the 
edge, and then it's quite cool indeed, but is it really a useful 
metaphor for those who never used a strong microscope? :)


I think in the trivial sense "Far Edge" is a tautology, and should be 
avoided. As a weak proof of my words, I already see a lot of smart 
people confusing these two and actually use Central/Edge where they mean 
Edge/Far Edge. I suggest we adopt a different terminology, even if it 
less consistent with typical marketing term around the "Edge" movement.


Now, I don't have really great suggestions. Something that came up in 
TripleO discussions [1] is Core/Hub/Edge, which I think reflects the 
idea better.


I'd be very interested to hear your ideas.


"The Edge" and "Lunatic Fringe".

There, problem solved.

-jay

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[openstack-dev] [FEMDC] [Edge] [tripleo] On the use of terms "Edge" and "Far Edge"

2018-10-18 Thread Dmitry Tantsur

Hi all,

Sorry for chiming in really late in this topic, but I think $subj is worth 
discussing until we settle harder on the potentially confusing terminology.


I think the difference between "Edge" and "Far Edge" is too vague to use these 
terms in practice. Think about the "edge" metaphor itself: something rarely has 
several layers of edges. A knife has an edge, there are no far edges. I imagine 
zooming in and seeing more edges at the edge, and then it's quite cool indeed, 
but is it really a useful metaphor for those who never used a strong microscope? :)


I think in the trivial sense "Far Edge" is a tautology, and should be avoided. 
As a weak proof of my words, I already see a lot of smart people confusing these 
two and actually use Central/Edge where they mean Edge/Far Edge. I suggest we 
adopt a different terminology, even if it less consistent with typical marketing 
term around the "Edge" movement.


Now, I don't have really great suggestions. Something that came up in TripleO 
discussions [1] is Core/Hub/Edge, which I think reflects the idea better.


I'd be very interested to hear your ideas.

Dmitry

[1] https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/tripleo-edge-mvp

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