Re: [openstack-dev] [Horizon][stable] proposing Rob Cresswell for Horizon stable core

[Matt Riedemann]

On 4/12/2016 5:06 AM, Matthias Runge wrote:

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On 12/04/16 05:12, Tony Breeds wrote:

On Thu, Apr 07, 2016 at 12:01:31PM +0200, Matthias Runge wrote:

Hello,

I'm proposing Rob Cresswell to become stable core for Horizon. I
thought, in the past all PTL were in stable team, but this
doesn't seem to be true any more.


This *may* have been true when the project specific team were
created, which was before my time, but it isn't true now.


Please chime in with +1/-1


-1

As with core status in other parts of OpenStack its merit /
evidence based. That is to say if you're doing good work, showing
an understanding of the stable policy then great lets do this
thing.

A quite check of reviewstats:

stable-liberty-horizon-120.txt :
http://paste.openstack.org/show/493706 stable-kilo-horizon-120.txt
: http://paste.openstack.org/show/493707

Shows that Rob has done 2 stable reviews in the last 120 days.

This is absolutely no reflection on Rob's contribution to Horizon
as a whole.


We never took review stats for stable branches as basis for proposing
or voting for someone being stable-maint.

In the past, people were proposed (and approved) to become stable
maintainer, because people were convinced the new person will care
about stable status in Horizon.

And after approval, someone would act as mentor to educate the new
core on stable review guidelines. That's a quite lightweight process,
it currently didn't fail for us, and we're in the situation, where
we're desperately looking for stable reviewers and cores.

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I agree with Tony. There is a reason that the project-specific stable 
maint core team is not the same as a project's regular core team on the 
master branch, and that's because the rules are different for reviews. 
So just because you're the PTL doesn't mean you know the stable branch 
review policy, which is why, generally, we should see more activity in 
reviews on stable branches before granting someone core privileges.


From the stable team meeting today, it sounds like Rob is doing that, 
which is great. For the time being, the stable-maint-core team can help 
out with approving Horizon backports that have a +2 from the existing 
horizon stable cores that are still active (it sounds like there is some 
attrition which is prompting a lot of this).


Then we can re-assess after the summit.

BTW, this is in no way a knock against Rob, and I apologize if anyone 
feels that way. It's just more about making sure we're comfortable with 
the people that are going to be approving changes that impact stable 
branches.


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Thanks,

Matt Riedemann


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Re: [openstack-dev] [Horizon][stable] proposing Rob Cresswell for Horizon stable core

[Matthias Runge]

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On 12/04/16 05:12, Tony Breeds wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 07, 2016 at 12:01:31PM +0200, Matthias Runge wrote:
>> Hello,
>> 
>> I'm proposing Rob Cresswell to become stable core for Horizon. I 
>> thought, in the past all PTL were in stable team, but this
>> doesn't seem to be true any more.
> 
> This *may* have been true when the project specific team were
> created, which was before my time, but it isn't true now.
> 
>> Please chime in with +1/-1
> 
> -1
> 
> As with core status in other parts of OpenStack its merit /
> evidence based. That is to say if you're doing good work, showing
> an understanding of the stable policy then great lets do this
> thing.
> 
> A quite check of reviewstats:
> 
> stable-liberty-horizon-120.txt :
> http://paste.openstack.org/show/493706 stable-kilo-horizon-120.txt
> : http://paste.openstack.org/show/493707
> 
> Shows that Rob has done 2 stable reviews in the last 120 days.
> 
> This is absolutely no reflection on Rob's contribution to Horizon
> as a whole.
> 
We never took review stats for stable branches as basis for proposing
or voting for someone being stable-maint.

In the past, people were proposed (and approved) to become stable
maintainer, because people were convinced the new person will care
about stable status in Horizon.

And after approval, someone would act as mentor to educate the new
core on stable review guidelines. That's a quite lightweight process,
it currently didn't fail for us, and we're in the situation, where
we're desperately looking for stable reviewers and cores.

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Commercial register: Amtsgericht Muenchen, HRB 153243,
Managing Directors: Paul Argiry, Charles Cachera, Michael Cunningham,
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Re: [openstack-dev] [Horizon][stable] proposing Rob Cresswell for Horizon stable core

[Tony Breeds]

On Thu, Apr 07, 2016 at 12:01:31PM +0200, Matthias Runge wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I'm proposing Rob Cresswell to become stable core for Horizon. I
> thought, in the past all PTL were in stable team, but this doesn't seem
> to be true any more.

This *may* have been true when the project specific team were created, which
was before my time, but it isn't true now.

> Please chime in with +1/-1

-1

As with core status in other parts of OpenStack its merit / evidence based.
That is to say if you're doing good work, showing an understanding of the
stable policy then great lets do this thing.

A quite check of reviewstats:

stable-liberty-horizon-120.txt : http://paste.openstack.org/show/493706
stable-kilo-horizon-120.txt: http://paste.openstack.org/show/493707

Shows that Rob has done 2 stable reviews in the last 120 days.

This is absolutely no reflection on Rob's contribution to Horizon as a whole.

Yours Tony.


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Re: [openstack-dev] [Horizon][stable] proposing Rob Cresswell for Horizon stable core

[David Lyle]

+1

On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 8:05 PM, Zhenguo Niu <niu.zgli...@gmail.com> wrote:
> definitely +1
>
> On Fri, Apr 8, 2016 at 12:42 AM, Brad Pokorny <brad_poko...@symantec.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> +1. I think Rob will provide good input for stable.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Brad
>>
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>>
>> +1
>> Чт, 7 апр. 2016 г. в 14:04, Itxaka Serrano Garcia <itx...@redhat.com>:
>>>
>>> Im still not sure if non-cores (i.e. peasants like me) can vote but I
>>> will do it anyway :D
>>>
>>> A big +1 from me.
>>>
>>> Itxaka
>>>
>>> On 04/07/2016 12:01 PM, Matthias Runge wrote:
>>> > Hello,
>>> >
>>> > I'm proposing Rob Cresswell to become stable core for Horizon. I
>>> > thought, in the past all PTL were in stable team, but this doesn't seem
>>> > to be true any more.
>>> >
>>> > Please chime in with +1/-1
>>> >
>>>
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Re: [openstack-dev] [Horizon][stable] proposing Rob Cresswell for Horizon stable core

[Zhenguo Niu]

definitely +1

On Fri, Apr 8, 2016 at 12:42 AM, Brad Pokorny <brad_poko...@symantec.com>
wrote:

> +1. I think Rob will provide good input for stable.
>
> Thanks,
> Brad
>
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> for Horizon stable core
>
> +1
> Чт, 7 апр. 2016 г. в 14:04, Itxaka Serrano Garcia <itx...@redhat.com>:
>
>> Im still not sure if non-cores (i.e. peasants like me) can vote but I
>> will do it anyway :D
>>
>> A big +1 from me.
>>
>> Itxaka
>>
>> On 04/07/2016 12:01 PM, Matthias Runge wrote:
>> > Hello,
>> >
>> > I'm proposing Rob Cresswell to become stable core for Horizon. I
>> > thought, in the past all PTL were in stable team, but this doesn't seem
>> > to be true any more.
>> >
>> > Please chime in with +1/-1
>> >
>>
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Re: [openstack-dev] [Horizon][stable] proposing Rob Cresswell for Horizon stable core

[Brad Pokorny]

+1. I think Rob will provide good input for stable.

Thanks,
Brad

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+1
Чт, 7 апр. 2016 г. в 14:04, Itxaka Serrano Garcia 
<itx...@redhat.com<mailto:itx...@redhat.com>>:
Im still not sure if non-cores (i.e. peasants like me) can vote but I
will do it anyway :D

A big +1 from me.

Itxaka

On 04/07/2016 12:01 PM, Matthias Runge wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I'm proposing Rob Cresswell to become stable core for Horizon. I
> thought, in the past all PTL were in stable team, but this doesn't seem
> to be true any more.
>
> Please chime in with +1/-1
>

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Re: [openstack-dev] [Horizon][stable] proposing Rob Cresswell for Horizon stable core

[Timur Sufiev]

+1
Чт, 7 апр. 2016 г. в 14:04, Itxaka Serrano Garcia :

> Im still not sure if non-cores (i.e. peasants like me) can vote but I
> will do it anyway :D
>
> A big +1 from me.
>
> Itxaka
>
> On 04/07/2016 12:01 PM, Matthias Runge wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > I'm proposing Rob Cresswell to become stable core for Horizon. I
> > thought, in the past all PTL were in stable team, but this doesn't seem
> > to be true any more.
> >
> > Please chime in with +1/-1
> >
>
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Re: [openstack-dev] [Horizon][stable] proposing Rob Cresswell for Horizon stable core

[Itxaka Serrano Garcia]

Im still not sure if non-cores (i.e. peasants like me) can vote but I 
will do it anyway :D


A big +1 from me.

Itxaka

On 04/07/2016 12:01 PM, Matthias Runge wrote:

Hello,

I'm proposing Rob Cresswell to become stable core for Horizon. I
thought, in the past all PTL were in stable team, but this doesn't seem
to be true any more.

Please chime in with +1/-1



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[openstack-dev] [Horizon][stable] proposing Rob Cresswell for Horizon stable core

[Matthias Runge]

Hello,

I'm proposing Rob Cresswell to become stable core for Horizon. I
thought, in the past all PTL were in stable team, but this doesn't seem
to be true any more.

Please chime in with +1/-1

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