Re: [openstack-dev] [all] In defence of faking

2014-09-22 Thread Robert Collins
On 23 September 2014 08:09, Jay Pipes wrote: > On 09/22/2014 03:36 PM, Robert Collins wrote: >> I'm going to push on this a bit further. Mocking is fine in many >> cases, but it encodes dependencies from within your objects into the >> test suite: e.g. that X will call Y and then Z - and if thats

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] In defence of faking

2014-09-22 Thread Jay Pipes
On 09/22/2014 03:36 PM, Robert Collins wrote: On 23 September 2014 03:58, Matthew Booth wrote: If you missed the inaugural OpenStack Bootstrapping Hour, it's here: http://youtu.be/jCWtLoSEfmw . I think this is a fantastic idea and big thanks to Sean, Jay and Dan for doing this. I liked the form

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] In defence of faking

2014-09-22 Thread Joshua Harlow
I would have to agree, fakes certainly have there benefits. IMHO, sometimes when you are testing a complex set of interactions you don't want to have to mock the full set of interactions when you just want to determine if the end result worked or did not work. For example, lets say I have a work

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] In defence of faking

2014-09-22 Thread Robert Collins
On 23 September 2014 03:58, Matthew Booth wrote: > If you missed the inaugural OpenStack Bootstrapping Hour, it's here: > http://youtu.be/jCWtLoSEfmw . I think this is a fantastic idea and big > thanks to Sean, Jay and Dan for doing this. I liked the format, the > informal style and the content. U

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] In defence of faking

2014-09-22 Thread Monty Taylor
On 09/22/2014 08:58 AM, Matthew Booth wrote: > If you missed the inaugural OpenStack Bootstrapping Hour, it's here: > http://youtu.be/jCWtLoSEfmw . I think this is a fantastic idea and big > thanks to Sean, Jay and Dan for doing this. I liked the format, the > informal style and the content. Unfort

[openstack-dev] [all] In defence of faking

2014-09-22 Thread Matthew Booth
If you missed the inaugural OpenStack Bootstrapping Hour, it's here: http://youtu.be/jCWtLoSEfmw . I think this is a fantastic idea and big thanks to Sean, Jay and Dan for doing this. I liked the format, the informal style and the content. Unfortunately I missed the live event, but I can confirm th