Re: [openstack-dev] [tc] [all] TC Report 18-07

2018-02-13 Thread gordon chung


On 2018-02-13 11:31 AM, gordon chung wrote:
> 
> 
> was there a resolution for this? iiuc, pgsql is not supported by glance
> based on:
> https://github.com/openstack/glance/commit/f268df1cbc3c356c472ace04bd4f2d4b3da6c026
> 

err... nevermind. it seems 
https://github.com/openstack/glance/commit/106de18f326247e8d3f715452665b96dade6d2bc
 
fixes it... or it seems i can run devstack.

carry on :)

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Re: [openstack-dev] [tc] [all] TC Report 18-07

2018-02-13 Thread Matt Riedemann

On 2/13/2018 10:31 AM, gordon chung wrote:

was there a resolution for this? iiuc, pgsql is not supported by glance
based on:
https://github.com/openstack/glance/commit/f268df1cbc3c356c472ace04bd4f2d4b3da6c026

i don't know if it was a bad commit but it seems to break any case that
tries to use pgsql (except if the db has all migrations applied already).

not making an opinion here, just asking as i have a patch[1] to remove
pgsql gate from one of the telemetry projects that was affected and
wondering if i should proceed.

[1]https://review.openstack.org/#/c/542240/


Wow, not even a release note on that glance change. As I commented in 
the review, if you're using postgresql, it doesn't matter if you don't 
care about rolling upgrade support for glance, you literally just can't 
upgrade *at all* to queens for glance now.


Surely there must be some kind of way we can put in logic like, "if 
engine == postgresql: log a warning and do the offline schema migration"


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Re: [openstack-dev] [tc] [all] TC Report 18-07

2018-02-13 Thread gordon chung


On 2018-02-13 10:08 AM, Chris Dent wrote:
> 
> # PostgreSQL and Triggers
> 
> Later in the [same
> day](http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/%23openstack-tc/%23openstack-tc.2018-02-07.log.html#t2018-02-07T17:18:56)
>  
> 
> there was some discussion about the state of PostgreSQL support and
> the merit of using triggers to manage migrations. There were some
> pretty strong (and supported) assertions that triggers are not a good
> choice.

was there a resolution for this? iiuc, pgsql is not supported by glance 
based on: 
https://github.com/openstack/glance/commit/f268df1cbc3c356c472ace04bd4f2d4b3da6c026

i don't know if it was a bad commit but it seems to break any case that 
tries to use pgsql (except if the db has all migrations applied already).

not making an opinion here, just asking as i have a patch[1] to remove 
pgsql gate from one of the telemetry projects that was affected and 
wondering if i should proceed.

[1] https://review.openstack.org/#/c/542240/

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[openstack-dev] [tc] [all] TC Report 18-07

2018-02-13 Thread Chris Dent



HTML: https://anticdent.org/tc-report-18-07.html

A few things to report from the past week of TC interaction. Not much
in the way of opportunities to opine or editorialize.

# Goals

Still more on the topic of OpenStack wide goals. There was some robust
[discussion](http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/%23openstack-tc/%23openstack-tc.2018-02-07.log.html#t2018-02-07T12:56:13)
about the [mox
goal](https://governance.openstack.org/tc/goals/rocky/mox_removal.html)
(eventually leading to accepting the goal, despite some reservations).
That discussion somehow meandered into where gerrit is on the "least
bad" to "most good" scale.

# PostgreSQL and Triggers

Later in the [same
day](http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/%23openstack-tc/%23openstack-tc.2018-02-07.log.html#t2018-02-07T17:18:56)
there was some discussion about the state of PostgreSQL support and
the merit of using triggers to manage migrations. There were some
pretty strong (and supported) assertions that triggers are not a good
choice.

# PowerStackers and Driver Projects

[Discussion](http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/%23openstack-tc/%23openstack-tc.2018-02-08.log.html#t2018-02-08T15:43:44)
about having a
[PowerStackers](https://review.openstack.org/#/c/540165/) project
evolved into a review of the current thinking on dealing with projects
that require access to special drivers or hardware. This is a common
discussion in OpenStack because so much of the point of OpenStack is
to provide an abstraction over _stuff_.

# Prepping the PTG

There's a growing
[etherpad](https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/PTG-Dublin-TC-topics) of
topics to be discussed with the TC Friday morning at the PTG. You
should feel free to add topics and show up and keep the TC in check.
The room the meeting will be in [is
glorious](https://crokepark.ie/meetings-events/spaces/space-listing/coiste-bainisti)
in its criminal-mastermind-wonderfulness.

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