Re: [openstack-dev] [vote][kolla] deprecation for fedora distro support

[Jeffrey Zhang]

Thanks for all guys.

So we have reached an agreement now. We will mark the fedora deprecated now
( Newton ), and plan to drop it in O cycle.

On Fri, Sep 23, 2016 at 6:05 PM, Haïkel  wrote:

> 2016-09-21 16:34 GMT+02:00 Steven Dake (stdake) :
> >
> >
> >
> > On 9/20/16, 11:18 AM, "Haïkel"  wrote:
> >
> > 2016-09-19 19:40 GMT+02:00 Jeffrey Zhang :
> > > Kolla core reviewer team,
> > >
> > > Kolla supports multiple Linux distros now, including
> > >
> > > * Ubuntu
> > > * CentOS
> > > * RHEL
> > > * Fedora
> > > * Debian
> > > * OracleLinux
> > >
> > > But only Ubuntu, CentOS, and OracleLinux are widely used and we
> have
> > > robust gate to ensure the quality.
> > >
> > > For fedora, Kolla hasn't any test for it and nobody reports any bug
> > > about it( i.e. nobody use fedora as base distro image). We (kolla
> > > team) also do not have enough resources to support so many Linux
> > > distros. I prefer to deprecate fedora support now.  This is talked
> in
> > > past but inconclusive[0].
> > >
> > > Please vote:
> > >
> > > 1. Kolla needs support fedora( if so, we need some guys to set up
> the
> > > gate and fix all the issues ASAP in O cycle)
> > > 2. Kolla should deprecate fedora support
> > >
> > > [0] http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-
> June/098526.html
> > >
> >
> >
> > /me has no voting rights
> >
> > As RDO maintainer and Fedora developer, I support option 2. as it'd
> be
> > very time-consuming to maintain Fedora support..
> >
> >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Regards,
> > > Jeffrey Zhang
> > > Blog: http://xcodest.me
> > >
> >
> > Haikel,
> >
> > Quck Q – are you saying maintaining fedora in kolla is time consuming or
> that maintaining rdo for fedora is time consuming (and something that is
> being dropped)?
> >
>
> Both, in my experience in maintaining RDO on Fedora, I encountered
> similar issues than Kolla. It's doable but a lot of work.
> One of the biggest problem are updates, you may have disruptive
> updates on python modules packages quite frequently, or even rarer,
> get some updates reverted.
> So keeping Fedora in a good shape would require a decent amount of efforts.
>
> Regards,
> H.
>
>
>
> > Thanks for improving clarity on this situation.
> >
> > Regards
> > -steve
> >
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Re: [openstack-dev] [vote][kolla] deprecation for fedora distro support

[Haïkel]

2016-09-21 16:34 GMT+02:00 Steven Dake (stdake) :
>
>
>
> On 9/20/16, 11:18 AM, "Haïkel"  wrote:
>
> 2016-09-19 19:40 GMT+02:00 Jeffrey Zhang :
> > Kolla core reviewer team,
> >
> > Kolla supports multiple Linux distros now, including
> >
> > * Ubuntu
> > * CentOS
> > * RHEL
> > * Fedora
> > * Debian
> > * OracleLinux
> >
> > But only Ubuntu, CentOS, and OracleLinux are widely used and we have
> > robust gate to ensure the quality.
> >
> > For fedora, Kolla hasn't any test for it and nobody reports any bug
> > about it( i.e. nobody use fedora as base distro image). We (kolla
> > team) also do not have enough resources to support so many Linux
> > distros. I prefer to deprecate fedora support now.  This is talked in
> > past but inconclusive[0].
> >
> > Please vote:
> >
> > 1. Kolla needs support fedora( if so, we need some guys to set up the
> > gate and fix all the issues ASAP in O cycle)
> > 2. Kolla should deprecate fedora support
> >
> > [0] 
> http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-June/098526.html
> >
>
>
> /me has no voting rights
>
> As RDO maintainer and Fedora developer, I support option 2. as it'd be
> very time-consuming to maintain Fedora support..
>
>
> >
> > --
> > Regards,
> > Jeffrey Zhang
> > Blog: http://xcodest.me
> >
>
> Haikel,
>
> Quck Q – are you saying maintaining fedora in kolla is time consuming or that 
> maintaining rdo for fedora is time consuming (and something that is being 
> dropped)?
>

Both, in my experience in maintaining RDO on Fedora, I encountered
similar issues than Kolla. It's doable but a lot of work.
One of the biggest problem are updates, you may have disruptive
updates on python modules packages quite frequently, or even rarer,
get some updates reverted.
So keeping Fedora in a good shape would require a decent amount of efforts.

Regards,
H.



> Thanks for improving clarity on this situation.
>
> Regards
> -steve
>
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Re: [openstack-dev] [vote][kolla] deprecation for fedora distro support

[Martin André]

My vote goes to option 2. It's common knowledge Kolla's Fedora base
image is in bad shape and doesn't get any attention from developers.
It's time to deprecated it.

Martin

On Mon, Sep 19, 2016 at 7:40 PM, Jeffrey Zhang  wrote:
> Kolla core reviewer team,
>
> Kolla supports multiple Linux distros now, including
>
> * Ubuntu
> * CentOS
> * RHEL
> * Fedora
> * Debian
> * OracleLinux
>
> But only Ubuntu, CentOS, and OracleLinux are widely used and we have
> robust gate to ensure the quality.
>
> For fedora, Kolla hasn't any test for it and nobody reports any bug
> about it( i.e. nobody use fedora as base distro image). We (kolla
> team) also do not have enough resources to support so many Linux
> distros. I prefer to deprecate fedora support now.  This is talked in
> past but inconclusive[0].
>
> Please vote:
>
> 1. Kolla needs support fedora( if so, we need some guys to set up the
> gate and fix all the issues ASAP in O cycle)
> 2. Kolla should deprecate fedora support
>
> [0] http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-June/098526.html
>
>
> --
> Regards,
> Jeffrey Zhang
> Blog: http://xcodest.me
>
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Re: [openstack-dev] [vote][kolla] deprecation for fedora distro support

[Steven Dake (stdake)]

On 9/20/16, 11:18 AM, "Haïkel"  wrote:

2016-09-19 19:40 GMT+02:00 Jeffrey Zhang :
> Kolla core reviewer team,
>
> Kolla supports multiple Linux distros now, including
>
> * Ubuntu
> * CentOS
> * RHEL
> * Fedora
> * Debian
> * OracleLinux
>
> But only Ubuntu, CentOS, and OracleLinux are widely used and we have
> robust gate to ensure the quality.
>
> For fedora, Kolla hasn't any test for it and nobody reports any bug
> about it( i.e. nobody use fedora as base distro image). We (kolla
> team) also do not have enough resources to support so many Linux
> distros. I prefer to deprecate fedora support now.  This is talked in
> past but inconclusive[0].
>
> Please vote:
>
> 1. Kolla needs support fedora( if so, we need some guys to set up the
> gate and fix all the issues ASAP in O cycle)
> 2. Kolla should deprecate fedora support
>
> [0] 
http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-June/098526.html
>


/me has no voting rights

As RDO maintainer and Fedora developer, I support option 2. as it'd be
very time-consuming to maintain Fedora support..


>
> --
> Regards,
> Jeffrey Zhang
> Blog: http://xcodest.me
>

Haikel,

Quck Q – are you saying maintaining fedora in kolla is time consuming or that 
maintaining rdo for fedora is time consuming (and something that is being 
dropped)?

Thanks for improving clarity on this situation.

Regards
-steve

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Re: [openstack-dev] [vote][kolla] deprecation for fedora distro support

[Haïkel]

2016-09-19 19:40 GMT+02:00 Jeffrey Zhang :
> Kolla core reviewer team,
>
> Kolla supports multiple Linux distros now, including
>
> * Ubuntu
> * CentOS
> * RHEL
> * Fedora
> * Debian
> * OracleLinux
>
> But only Ubuntu, CentOS, and OracleLinux are widely used and we have
> robust gate to ensure the quality.
>
> For fedora, Kolla hasn't any test for it and nobody reports any bug
> about it( i.e. nobody use fedora as base distro image). We (kolla
> team) also do not have enough resources to support so many Linux
> distros. I prefer to deprecate fedora support now.  This is talked in
> past but inconclusive[0].
>
> Please vote:
>
> 1. Kolla needs support fedora( if so, we need some guys to set up the
> gate and fix all the issues ASAP in O cycle)
> 2. Kolla should deprecate fedora support
>
> [0] http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-June/098526.html
>


/me has no voting rights

As RDO maintainer and Fedora developer, I support option 2. as it'd be
very time-consuming to maintain Fedora support..


>
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> Jeffrey Zhang
> Blog: http://xcodest.me
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Re: [openstack-dev] [vote][kolla] deprecation for fedora distro support

[Paul Bourke]

+1

On 19/09/16 18:40, Jeffrey Zhang wrote:

Kolla core reviewer team,

Kolla supports multiple Linux distros now, including

* Ubuntu
* CentOS
* RHEL
* Fedora
* Debian
* OracleLinux

But only Ubuntu, CentOS, and OracleLinux are widely used and we have
robust gate to ensure the quality.

For fedora, Kolla hasn't any test for it and nobody reports any bug
about it( i.e. nobody use fedora as base distro image). We (kolla
team) also do not have enough resources to support so many Linux
distros. I prefer to deprecate fedora support now.  This is talked in
past but inconclusive[0].

Please vote:

1. Kolla needs support fedora( if so, we need some guys to set up the
gate and fix all the issues ASAP in O cycle)
2. Kolla should deprecate fedora support

[0] http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-June/098526.html




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Re: [openstack-dev] [vote][kolla] deprecation for fedora distro support

[Steven Dake (stdake)]

Fwiw Swapnil, I think having a solid fedora implementation would be fantastic 
to help manage the transition to centos8 whenever that happens.  At this point 
nobody has stepped up to do the work.  We can always revisit any policy or vote 
in the future if the environment changes (i.e. you are freed up to work on 
making fedora work well).  However, no majority has been reached yet, so its 
premature to call this vote closed.

Regards
-steve


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On Sep 19, 2016 11:11 PM, "Jeffrey Zhang" 
<zhang.lei@gmail.com<mailto:zhang.lei@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Kolla core reviewer team,
>
> Kolla supports multiple Linux distros now, including
>
> * Ubuntu
> * CentOS
> * RHEL
> * Fedora
> * Debian
> * OracleLinux
>
> But only Ubuntu, CentOS, and OracleLinux are widely used and we have
> robust gate to ensure the quality.
>
> For fedora, Kolla hasn't any test for it and nobody reports any bug
> about it( i.e. nobody use fedora as base distro image). We (kolla
> team) also do not have enough resources to support so many Linux
> distros. I prefer to deprecate fedora support now.  This is talked in
> past but inconclusive[0].
>
> Please vote:
>
> 1. Kolla needs support fedora( if so, we need some guys to set up the
> gate and fix all the issues ASAP in O cycle)
> 2. Kolla should deprecate fedora support
>
> [0] http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-June/098526.html
>
>
> --
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> Jeffrey Zhang
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>
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Unless we have specific objections apart from issues in #1, I wish to work on 
Fedora support in kolla and request to revisit the depreciation vote post 
ocata-2 milestone.

Best Regards,
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Re: [openstack-dev] [vote][kolla] deprecation for fedora distro support

[Eduardo Gonzalez]

+1 to option 2.

Regards

On Mon, Sep 19, 2016, 10:34 PM Vikram Hosakote (vhosakot) <
vhosa...@cisco.com> wrote:

> I vote for option 2.
>
> Regards,
> Vikram Hosakote
> IRC:  vhosakot
>
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> option 2
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> Thanks
> -Ryan
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> Option 2
>
> 2016-09-19 14:56 GMT-03:00 Christian Berendt <
> bere...@betacloud-solutions.de > :
>
>
> Thanks for moving this forward.
>
> On 19 Sep 2016, at 19:40, Jeffrey Zhang < zhang.lei@gmail.com >
> wrote:
> 1. Kolla needs support fedora( if so, we need some guys to set up the
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> 2. Kolla should deprecate fedora support
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> +1 on option 2.
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Re: [openstack-dev] [vote][kolla] deprecation for fedora distro support

[Vikram Hosakote (vhosakot)]

I vote for option 2.

Regards,
Vikram Hosakote
IRC:  vhosakot

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option 2

Thanks
-Ryan

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Option 2

2016-09-19 14:56 GMT-03:00 Christian Berendt < 
bere...@betacloud-solutions.de<mailto:bere...@betacloud-solutions.de> > :


Thanks for moving this forward.

On 19 Sep 2016, at 19:40, Jeffrey Zhang < 
zhang.lei@gmail.com<mailto:zhang.lei@gmail.com> > wrote:
1. Kolla needs support fedora( if so, we need some guys to set up the
gate and fix all the issues ASAP in O cycle)
2. Kolla should deprecate fedora support

+1 on option 2.

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Re: [openstack-dev] [vote][kolla] deprecation for fedora distro support

[Steven Dake (stdake)]

I disagree.  Oracle Linux is well implemented and very well maintained by Paul 
Bourke and many other fine folks from Oracle. CentOS is derived from RHEL 
(changing trademarks and marketing fluff, not code).

Regards
-steve

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On 19 September 2016 at 18:40, Jeffrey Zhang 
<zhang.lei@gmail.com<mailto:zhang.lei@gmail.com>> wrote:
Kolla core reviewer team,

Kolla supports multiple Linux distros now, including

* Ubuntu
* CentOS
* RHEL
* Fedora
* Debian
* OracleLinux

But only Ubuntu, CentOS, and OracleLinux are widely used and we have
robust gate to ensure the quality.

For fedora, Kolla hasn't any test for it and nobody reports any bug
about it( i.e. nobody use fedora as base distro image). We (kolla
team) also do not have enough resources to support so many Linux
distros. I prefer to deprecate fedora support now.  This is talked in
past but inconclusive[0].

Please vote:

1. Kolla needs support fedora( if so, we need some guys to set up the
gate and fix all the issues ASAP in O cycle)
2. Kolla should deprecate fedora support

[0] http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-June/098526.html


+1

Honestly, only CentOS and Ubuntu are seriously implemented.. I'd go further and 
rip out the rest unless there is a strong effort from people committed to 
getting parity.

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Re: [openstack-dev] [vote][kolla] deprecation for fedora distro support

[Steven Dake (stdake)]

+1 for option 2, unless some good Fedora folk appear in Kolla to maintain it in 
the future.  In that case, we can always undo a deprecation within a cycle.

Note the deprecation policy states that we do not remove functionality for 1 
cycle after having released it for stable deliverables.  Even though fedora is 
broken, it would be a violation of the deprecation policies to do so.  Notng it 
is planned for deprecation in Newton and then doing the work of deprecating it 
can be done in Ocata.

Regards
-steve



On 9/19/16, 10:42 AM, "Jeffrey Zhang"  wrote:

Voting is open for 7 days until September 27st, 2016.

On Tue, Sep 20, 2016 at 1:40 AM, Jeffrey Zhang  
wrote:
> Kolla core reviewer team,
>
> Kolla supports multiple Linux distros now, including
>
> * Ubuntu
> * CentOS
> * RHEL
> * Fedora
> * Debian
> * OracleLinux
>
> But only Ubuntu, CentOS, and OracleLinux are widely used and we have
> robust gate to ensure the quality.
>
> For fedora, Kolla hasn't any test for it and nobody reports any bug
> about it( i.e. nobody use fedora as base distro image). We (kolla
> team) also do not have enough resources to support so many Linux
> distros. I prefer to deprecate fedora support now.  This is talked in
> past but inconclusive[0].
>
> Please vote:
>
> 1. Kolla needs support fedora( if so, we need some guys to set up the
> gate and fix all the issues ASAP in O cycle)
> 2. Kolla should deprecate fedora support
>
> [0] 
http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-June/098526.html
>
>
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Re: [openstack-dev] [vote][kolla] deprecation for fedora distro support

[Michał Jastrzębski]

yup, +1 on deprecation

On 19 September 2016 at 13:58, Ryan Hallisey <rhall...@redhat.com> wrote:
> option 2
>
> Thanks
> -Ryan
>
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>   support
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> Option 2
>
> 2016-09-19 14:56 GMT-03:00 Christian Berendt < bere...@betacloud-solutions.de 
> > :
>
>
> Thanks for moving this forward.
>
>> On 19 Sep 2016, at 19:40, Jeffrey Zhang < zhang.lei@gmail.com > wrote:
>>
>> 1. Kolla needs support fedora( if so, we need some guys to set up the
>> gate and fix all the issues ASAP in O cycle)
>> 2. Kolla should deprecate fedora support
>
> +1 on option 2.
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Re: [openstack-dev] [vote][kolla] deprecation for fedora distro support

[Ryan Hallisey]

option 2

Thanks
-Ryan

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Option 2 

2016-09-19 14:56 GMT-03:00 Christian Berendt < bere...@betacloud-solutions.de > 
: 


Thanks for moving this forward. 

> On 19 Sep 2016, at 19:40, Jeffrey Zhang < zhang.lei@gmail.com > wrote: 
> 
> 1. Kolla needs support fedora( if so, we need some guys to set up the 
> gate and fix all the issues ASAP in O cycle) 
> 2. Kolla should deprecate fedora support 

+1 on option 2. 

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Re: [openstack-dev] [vote][kolla] deprecation for fedora distro support

[Mauricio Lima]

Option 2

2016-09-19 14:56 GMT-03:00 Christian Berendt :

> Thanks for moving this forward.
>
> > On 19 Sep 2016, at 19:40, Jeffrey Zhang  wrote:
> >
> > 1. Kolla needs support fedora( if so, we need some guys to set up the
> > gate and fix all the issues ASAP in O cycle)
> > 2. Kolla should deprecate fedora support
>
> +1 on option 2.
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Re: [openstack-dev] [vote][kolla] deprecation for fedora distro support

[Christian Berendt]

Thanks for moving this forward.

> On 19 Sep 2016, at 19:40, Jeffrey Zhang  wrote:
> 
> 1. Kolla needs support fedora( if so, we need some guys to set up the
> gate and fix all the issues ASAP in O cycle)
> 2. Kolla should deprecate fedora support

+1 on option 2.


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Re: [openstack-dev] [vote][kolla] deprecation for fedora distro support

[Dave Walker]

On 19 September 2016 at 18:40, Jeffrey Zhang 
wrote:

> Kolla core reviewer team,
>
> Kolla supports multiple Linux distros now, including
>
> * Ubuntu
> * CentOS
> * RHEL
> * Fedora
> * Debian
> * OracleLinux
>
> But only Ubuntu, CentOS, and OracleLinux are widely used and we have
> robust gate to ensure the quality.
>
> For fedora, Kolla hasn't any test for it and nobody reports any bug
> about it( i.e. nobody use fedora as base distro image). We (kolla
> team) also do not have enough resources to support so many Linux
> distros. I prefer to deprecate fedora support now.  This is talked in
> past but inconclusive[0].
>
> Please vote:
>
> 1. Kolla needs support fedora( if so, we need some guys to set up the
> gate and fix all the issues ASAP in O cycle)
> 2. Kolla should deprecate fedora support
>
> [0] http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-
> June/098526.html
>
>
>
+1

Honestly, only CentOS and Ubuntu are seriously implemented.. I'd go further
and rip out the rest unless there is a strong effort from people committed
to getting parity.

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Re: [openstack-dev] [vote][kolla] deprecation for fedora distro support

[Jeffrey Zhang]

Voting is open for 7 days until September 27st, 2016.

On Tue, Sep 20, 2016 at 1:40 AM, Jeffrey Zhang  wrote:
> Kolla core reviewer team,
>
> Kolla supports multiple Linux distros now, including
>
> * Ubuntu
> * CentOS
> * RHEL
> * Fedora
> * Debian
> * OracleLinux
>
> But only Ubuntu, CentOS, and OracleLinux are widely used and we have
> robust gate to ensure the quality.
>
> For fedora, Kolla hasn't any test for it and nobody reports any bug
> about it( i.e. nobody use fedora as base distro image). We (kolla
> team) also do not have enough resources to support so many Linux
> distros. I prefer to deprecate fedora support now.  This is talked in
> past but inconclusive[0].
>
> Please vote:
>
> 1. Kolla needs support fedora( if so, we need some guys to set up the
> gate and fix all the issues ASAP in O cycle)
> 2. Kolla should deprecate fedora support
>
> [0] http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-June/098526.html
>
>
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> Regards,
> Jeffrey Zhang
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[openstack-dev] [vote][kolla] deprecation for fedora distro support

[Jeffrey Zhang]

Kolla core reviewer team,

Kolla supports multiple Linux distros now, including

* Ubuntu
* CentOS
* RHEL
* Fedora
* Debian
* OracleLinux

But only Ubuntu, CentOS, and OracleLinux are widely used and we have
robust gate to ensure the quality.

For fedora, Kolla hasn't any test for it and nobody reports any bug
about it( i.e. nobody use fedora as base distro image). We (kolla
team) also do not have enough resources to support so many Linux
distros. I prefer to deprecate fedora support now.  This is talked in
past but inconclusive[0].

Please vote:

1. Kolla needs support fedora( if so, we need some guys to set up the
gate and fix all the issues ASAP in O cycle)
2. Kolla should deprecate fedora support

[0] http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-June/098526.html


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