Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] How can I write at milestone section of blueprint?
> Its been discussed at several summits. We have settled on a general solution > using Zaqar, > but no work has been done that I know of. I was just pointing out that > similar blueprints/specs > exist and you may want to look through those to get some ideas about writing > your own and/or > basing your proposal off of one of them. I see. Thanks for your information. -- Yasunori Goto ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] How can I write at milestone section of blueprint?
Its been discussed at several summits. We have settled on a general solution using Zaqar, but no work has been done that I know of. I was just pointing out that similar blueprints/specs exist and you may want to look through those to get some ideas about writing your own and/or basing your proposal off of one of them. On Dec 22, 2014, at 12:19 AM, Yasunori Goto wrote: > Rundal-san, > >> There should already be blueprints in launchpad for very similar >> functionality. >> For example: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/heat/+spec/lifecycle-callbacks. >> While that specifies Heat sending notifications to the outside world, >> there has been discussion around debugging that would allow the receiver to >> send notifications back. I only point this out so you can see there should be >> similar blueprints and specs that you can reference and use as examples. > > Thank you for pointing it out. > But do you know current status about it? > Though the above blueprint is not approved, and it seems to be discarded. > > Bye, > >> >> On Dec 19, 2014, at 4:17 AM, Steven Hardy >> wrote: >> >>> On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 05:02:04PM +0900, Yasunori Goto wrote: Hello, This is the first mail at Openstack community, >>> >>> Welcome! :) >>> and I have a small question about how to write blueprint for Heat. Currently our team would like to propose 2 interfaces for users operation in HOT. (One is "Event handler" which is to notify user's defined event to heat. Another is definitions of action when heat catches the above notification.) So, I'm preparing the blueprint for it. >>> >>> Please include details of the exact use-case, e.g the problem you're trying >>> to solve (not just the proposed solution), as it's possible we can suggest >>> solutions based on exiting interfaces. >>> However, I can not find how I can write at the milestone section of blueprint. Heat blueprint template has a section for Milestones. "Milestones -- Target Milestone for completeion:" But I don't think I can decide it by myself. In my understanding, it should be decided by PTL. >>> >>> Normally, it's decided by when the person submitting the spec expects to >>> finish writing the code by. The PTL doesn't really have much control over >>> that ;) >>> In addition, probably the above our request will not finish by Kilo. I suppose it will be "L" version or later. >>> >>> So to clarify, you want to propose the feature, but you're not planning on >>> working on it (e.g implementing it) yourself? >>> So, what should I write at this section? "Kilo-x", "L version", or empty? >>> >>> As has already been mentioned, it doesn't matter that much - I see it as a >>> statement of intent from developers. If you're just requesting a feature, >>> you can even leave it blank if you want and we'll update it when an >>> assignee is found (e.g during the spec review). >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Steve >>> >>> ___ >>> OpenStack-dev mailing list >>> OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org >>> http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev >> >> >> ___ >> OpenStack-dev mailing list >> OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org >> http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev > > -- > Yasunori Goto > > > > ___ > OpenStack-dev mailing list > OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] How can I write at milestone section of blueprint?
Rundal-san, > There should already be blueprints in launchpad for very similar > functionality. > For example: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/heat/+spec/lifecycle-callbacks. > While that specifies Heat sending notifications to the outside world, > there has been discussion around debugging that would allow the receiver to > send notifications back. I only point this out so you can see there should be > similar blueprints and specs that you can reference and use as examples. Thank you for pointing it out. But do you know current status about it? Though the above blueprint is not approved, and it seems to be discarded. Bye, > > On Dec 19, 2014, at 4:17 AM, Steven Hardy > wrote: > > > On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 05:02:04PM +0900, Yasunori Goto wrote: > >> > >> Hello, > >> > >> This is the first mail at Openstack community, > > > > Welcome! :) > > > >> and I have a small question about how to write blueprint for Heat. > >> > >> Currently our team would like to propose 2 interfaces > >> for users operation in HOT. > >> (One is "Event handler" which is to notify user's defined event to heat. > >> Another is definitions of action when heat catches the above notification.) > >> So, I'm preparing the blueprint for it. > > > > Please include details of the exact use-case, e.g the problem you're trying > > to solve (not just the proposed solution), as it's possible we can suggest > > solutions based on exiting interfaces. > > > >> However, I can not find how I can write at the milestone section of > >> blueprint. > >> > >> Heat blueprint template has a section for Milestones. > >> "Milestones -- Target Milestone for completeion:" > >> > >> But I don't think I can decide it by myself. > >> In my understanding, it should be decided by PTL. > > > > Normally, it's decided by when the person submitting the spec expects to > > finish writing the code by. The PTL doesn't really have much control over > > that ;) > > > >> In addition, probably the above our request will not finish > >> by Kilo. I suppose it will be "L" version or later. > > > > So to clarify, you want to propose the feature, but you're not planning on > > working on it (e.g implementing it) yourself? > > > >> So, what should I write at this section? > >> "Kilo-x", "L version", or empty? > > > > As has already been mentioned, it doesn't matter that much - I see it as a > > statement of intent from developers. If you're just requesting a feature, > > you can even leave it blank if you want and we'll update it when an > > assignee is found (e.g during the spec review). > > > > Thanks, > > > > Steve > > > > ___ > > OpenStack-dev mailing list > > OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org > > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev > > > ___ > OpenStack-dev mailing list > OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev -- Yasunori Goto ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] How can I write at milestone section of blueprint?
> On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 05:02:04PM +0900, Yasunori Goto wrote: > > > > Hello, > > > > This is the first mail at Openstack community, > > Welcome! :) > > > and I have a small question about how to write blueprint for Heat. > > > > Currently our team would like to propose 2 interfaces > > for users operation in HOT. > > (One is "Event handler" which is to notify user's defined event to heat. > > Another is definitions of action when heat catches the above notification.) > > So, I'm preparing the blueprint for it. > > Please include details of the exact use-case, e.g the problem you're trying > to solve (not just the proposed solution), as it's possible we can suggest > solutions based on exiting interfaces. Ok, I'll try. > > However, I can not find how I can write at the milestone section of > > blueprint. > > > > Heat blueprint template has a section for Milestones. > > "Milestones -- Target Milestone for completeion:" > > > > But I don't think I can decide it by myself. > > In my understanding, it should be decided by PTL. > > Normally, it's decided by when the person submitting the spec expects to > finish writing the code by. The PTL doesn't really have much control over > that ;) I see. > > > In addition, probably the above our request will not finish > > by Kilo. I suppose it will be "L" version or later. > > So to clarify, you want to propose the feature, but you're not planning on > working on it (e.g implementing it) yourself? I want to develop it. > > > So, what should I write at this section? > > "Kilo-x", "L version", or empty? > > As has already been mentioned, it doesn't matter that much - I see it as a > statement of intent from developers. If you're just requesting a feature, > you can even leave it blank if you want and we'll update it when an > assignee is found (e.g during the spec review). Thanks for your comment. I'm very newbie of Openstack world. To be honest, I don't have confidence when I can finish it. (Though I have experience Linux kernel development, currently, I feel python/Openstack is more difficult than it for me yet.) But, anyway, I'll do my best, and I'll write something at Milestone section. Bye. > > Thanks, > > Steve > > ___ > OpenStack-dev mailing list > OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev -- Yasunori Goto ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] How can I write at milestone section of blueprint?
There should already be blueprints in launchpad for very similar functionality. For example: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/heat/+spec/lifecycle-callbacks. While that specifies Heat sending notifications to the outside world, there has been discussion around debugging that would allow the receiver to send notifications back. I only point this out so you can see there should be similar blueprints and specs that you can reference and use as examples. On Dec 19, 2014, at 4:17 AM, Steven Hardy wrote: > On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 05:02:04PM +0900, Yasunori Goto wrote: >> >> Hello, >> >> This is the first mail at Openstack community, > > Welcome! :) > >> and I have a small question about how to write blueprint for Heat. >> >> Currently our team would like to propose 2 interfaces >> for users operation in HOT. >> (One is "Event handler" which is to notify user's defined event to heat. >> Another is definitions of action when heat catches the above notification.) >> So, I'm preparing the blueprint for it. > > Please include details of the exact use-case, e.g the problem you're trying > to solve (not just the proposed solution), as it's possible we can suggest > solutions based on exiting interfaces. > >> However, I can not find how I can write at the milestone section of >> blueprint. >> >> Heat blueprint template has a section for Milestones. >> "Milestones -- Target Milestone for completeion:" >> >> But I don't think I can decide it by myself. >> In my understanding, it should be decided by PTL. > > Normally, it's decided by when the person submitting the spec expects to > finish writing the code by. The PTL doesn't really have much control over > that ;) > >> In addition, probably the above our request will not finish >> by Kilo. I suppose it will be "L" version or later. > > So to clarify, you want to propose the feature, but you're not planning on > working on it (e.g implementing it) yourself? > >> So, what should I write at this section? >> "Kilo-x", "L version", or empty? > > As has already been mentioned, it doesn't matter that much - I see it as a > statement of intent from developers. If you're just requesting a feature, > you can even leave it blank if you want and we'll update it when an > assignee is found (e.g during the spec review). > > Thanks, > > Steve > > ___ > OpenStack-dev mailing list > OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] How can I write at milestone section of blueprint?
On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 05:02:04PM +0900, Yasunori Goto wrote: > > Hello, > > This is the first mail at Openstack community, Welcome! :) > and I have a small question about how to write blueprint for Heat. > > Currently our team would like to propose 2 interfaces > for users operation in HOT. > (One is "Event handler" which is to notify user's defined event to heat. > Another is definitions of action when heat catches the above notification.) > So, I'm preparing the blueprint for it. Please include details of the exact use-case, e.g the problem you're trying to solve (not just the proposed solution), as it's possible we can suggest solutions based on exiting interfaces. > However, I can not find how I can write at the milestone section of blueprint. > > Heat blueprint template has a section for Milestones. > "Milestones -- Target Milestone for completeion:" > > But I don't think I can decide it by myself. > In my understanding, it should be decided by PTL. Normally, it's decided by when the person submitting the spec expects to finish writing the code by. The PTL doesn't really have much control over that ;) > In addition, probably the above our request will not finish > by Kilo. I suppose it will be "L" version or later. So to clarify, you want to propose the feature, but you're not planning on working on it (e.g implementing it) yourself? > So, what should I write at this section? > "Kilo-x", "L version", or empty? As has already been mentioned, it doesn't matter that much - I see it as a statement of intent from developers. If you're just requesting a feature, you can even leave it blank if you want and we'll update it when an assignee is found (e.g during the spec review). Thanks, Steve ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] How can I write at milestone section of blueprint?
Hi, Pavlo-san > Hi Yasunori, > > that's the point of using code review for specs - you make your the best > bet / effort, and we then as a community decide if it should be changed ;) > > So feel free submitting it with e.g. K-3 target, we'll figure out the > correct thing during review. Ok, I got it. Thanks, -- Yasunori Goto ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] How can I write at milestone section of blueprint?
Hi Yasunori, that's the point of using code review for specs - you make your the best bet / effort, and we then as a community decide if it should be changed ;) So feel free submitting it with e.g. K-3 target, we'll figure out the correct thing during review. Best regards, Pavlo Shchelokovskyy Software Engineer Mirantis Inc www.mirantis.com On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 10:57 AM, Yasunori Goto wrote: > > Hi, Thomas-san, > > Thank you for your response. > > > you can submit a blueprint spec as a gerrit review to the heat-specs > > repository [1]. > > I would suggest to have a look at some existing specs that already got > > accepted to have an example for the format, important sections etc. > > > > All kilo related specs are in a kilo sub-directory in the repo, and the > > proposed milestone is mentioned in the spec itself. > > > > [1] https://github.com/openstack/heat-specs > > Hmm. > However, "Kilo-1", "Kilo-2", or "Kilo-3" is written at the section of > "Target Milestone for completion:" in these blueprint. > > I don't find I can decide such concrete Milestone for my new blueprint. > It is why I asked... > > Thanks, > > > > > > Regards, > > Thomas > > > > > > > From: Yasunori Goto > > > To: Openstack-Dev-ML > > > Date: 19/12/2014 09:05 > > > Subject: [openstack-dev] [Heat] How can I write at milestone section > > > of blueprint? > > > > > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > This is the first mail at Openstack community, > > > and I have a small question about how to write blueprint for Heat. > > > > > > Currently our team would like to propose 2 interfaces > > > for users operation in HOT. > > > (One is "Event handler" which is to notify user's defined event to > heat. > > > Another is definitions of action when heat catches the above > > notification.) > > > So, I'm preparing the blueprint for it. > > > > > > However, I can not find how I can write at the milestone section of > > blueprint. > > > > > > Heat blueprint template has a section for Milestones. > > > "Milestones -- Target Milestone for completeion:" > > > > > > But I don't think I can decide it by myself. > > > In my understanding, it should be decided by PTL. > > > > > > In addition, probably the above our request will not finish > > > by Kilo. I suppose it will be "L" version or later. > > > > > > So, what should I write at this section? > > > "Kilo-x", "L version", or empty? > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > -- > > > Yasunori Goto > > > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > OpenStack-dev mailing list > > > OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org > > > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev > > > > > > > > > ___ > > OpenStack-dev mailing list > > OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org > > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev > > -- > Yasunori Goto > > > > ___ > OpenStack-dev mailing list > OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev > ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] How can I write at milestone section of blueprint?
Hi, Thomas-san, Thank you for your response. > you can submit a blueprint spec as a gerrit review to the heat-specs > repository [1]. > I would suggest to have a look at some existing specs that already got > accepted to have an example for the format, important sections etc. > > All kilo related specs are in a kilo sub-directory in the repo, and the > proposed milestone is mentioned in the spec itself. > > [1] https://github.com/openstack/heat-specs Hmm. However, "Kilo-1", "Kilo-2", or "Kilo-3" is written at the section of "Target Milestone for completion:" in these blueprint. I don't find I can decide such concrete Milestone for my new blueprint. It is why I asked... Thanks, > > Regards, > Thomas > > > > From: Yasunori Goto > > To: Openstack-Dev-ML > > Date: 19/12/2014 09:05 > > Subject: [openstack-dev] [Heat] How can I write at milestone section > > of blueprint? > > > > > > Hello, > > > > This is the first mail at Openstack community, > > and I have a small question about how to write blueprint for Heat. > > > > Currently our team would like to propose 2 interfaces > > for users operation in HOT. > > (One is "Event handler" which is to notify user's defined event to heat. > > Another is definitions of action when heat catches the above > notification.) > > So, I'm preparing the blueprint for it. > > > > However, I can not find how I can write at the milestone section of > blueprint. > > > > Heat blueprint template has a section for Milestones. > > "Milestones -- Target Milestone for completeion:" > > > > But I don't think I can decide it by myself. > > In my understanding, it should be decided by PTL. > > > > In addition, probably the above our request will not finish > > by Kilo. I suppose it will be "L" version or later. > > > > So, what should I write at this section? > > "Kilo-x", "L version", or empty? > > > > Thanks, > > > > -- > > Yasunori Goto > > > > > > > > ___ > > OpenStack-dev mailing list > > OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org > > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev > > > > > ___ > OpenStack-dev mailing list > OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev -- Yasunori Goto ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] How can I write at milestone section of blueprint?
Hi Yasunori, you can submit a blueprint spec as a gerrit review to the heat-specs repository [1]. I would suggest to have a look at some existing specs that already got accepted to have an example for the format, important sections etc. All kilo related specs are in a kilo sub-directory in the repo, and the proposed milestone is mentioned in the spec itself. [1] https://github.com/openstack/heat-specs Regards, Thomas > From: Yasunori Goto > To: Openstack-Dev-ML > Date: 19/12/2014 09:05 > Subject: [openstack-dev] [Heat] How can I write at milestone section > of blueprint? > > > Hello, > > This is the first mail at Openstack community, > and I have a small question about how to write blueprint for Heat. > > Currently our team would like to propose 2 interfaces > for users operation in HOT. > (One is "Event handler" which is to notify user's defined event to heat. > Another is definitions of action when heat catches the above notification.) > So, I'm preparing the blueprint for it. > > However, I can not find how I can write at the milestone section of blueprint. > > Heat blueprint template has a section for Milestones. > "Milestones -- Target Milestone for completeion:" > > But I don't think I can decide it by myself. > In my understanding, it should be decided by PTL. > > In addition, probably the above our request will not finish > by Kilo. I suppose it will be "L" version or later. > > So, what should I write at this section? > "Kilo-x", "L version", or empty? > > Thanks, > > -- > Yasunori Goto > > > > ___ > OpenStack-dev mailing list > OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev > ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
