Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] Wednesday meeting agenda topics

2014-07-10 Thread Stephen Balukoff
I'm OK with essentially skipping the Wednesday video meetings until we're
at a point that we're ready to concentrate on Octavia as a project.

In previous video meetings there was a general sentiment that more could be
accomplished (and faster) using video communications, while avoiding a lot
of misunderstandings that crop up when people use text as a sole means of
communication. (And there's science to back up this claim:
http://www.nonverbalgroup.com/2011/08/how-much-of-communication-is-really-nonverbal/

http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/beyond-words/201109/is-nonverbal-communication-numbers-game
 )

Having said this, even if someone is recording all the video feeds that go
into a video conference, this is difficult to document in any useful way
for posterity or even for people who aren't able to make it to the
discussion.

When the Octavia project kicks into high gear once the Neutron LBaaS stuff
is in a good state for Juno, we'll probably start with the high-bandwidth
video conferences among those interested in contributing to the project and
probably move to IRC or some other more document-able solution once the
initial groundwork for the project is laid and high-bandwidth communication
isn't as vital.

Stephen




On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 5:14 AM, Samuel Bercovici samu...@radware.com
wrote:

  I prefer IRC only.

 As I am located in Israel and so are other Radware people, it is easier
 for us to use IRC which is also more available from more devices and
 locations.

 OpenStack has chosen IRC as a way to allow different people from different
 places and different speaking capabilities to work together and this has
 proven fine till now.





 -Sam.





 *From:* Brandon Logan [mailto:brandon.lo...@rackspace.com]
 *Sent:* Wednesday, July 09, 2014 10:44 PM

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 topics



 My personal opinion is I prefer the IRC meetings right now.  I,
 personally, don't get any more value out of a video chat than I would with
 an IRC meeting.  However, I know others do get more out of it, and that
 includes people on my team at Rackspace.  Basically, what I am saying is
 I'd be fine with only doing the IRC meeting, at least for now.  Once more
 focus is put on Octavia, then it would need its own meeting.

 Thanks,
 Brandon
  --

 *From:* Doug Wiegley [do...@a10networks.com]
 *Sent:* Wednesday, July 09, 2014 11:39 AM
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 *Subject:* Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] Wednesday meeting agenda
 topics

 Have the IRC meetings been time constrained or unproductive?  Having a
 pre-meeting before the IRC meeting risks being exclusionary to the folks
 that can’t make it for that timezone, and I haven’t seen that the IRC
 meetings are having communication/decision issues, beyond it being bloody
 dang early.



 The webex time slot is open for whatever, and if this is what the group
 wants to use it for, by all means go for it.  But IMO, just cloning the IRC
 meeting is something that doesn’t sound right to me.



 Thanks,

 doug



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 Hello all!



 Earlier in the meetings we discussed using the Wednesday meeting for only
 Octavia discussions.  One of my teammates would like to allocate the
 Wednesday meeting time for face-to-face discussions of the same meeting
 topics we have on Thursday morning.  I think its a good idea to use the
 time that way at least until Octavia is more of a priority.  Does anyone
 else share this same concern?  Do we think that's a good use of that time?



 -Trevor

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Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] Wednesday meeting agenda topics

2014-07-09 Thread Doug Wiegley
Have the IRC meetings been time constrained or unproductive?  Having a 
pre-meeting before the IRC meeting risks being exclusionary to the folks that 
can’t make it for that timezone, and I haven’t seen that the IRC meetings are 
having communication/decision issues, beyond it being bloody dang early.

The webex time slot is open for whatever, and if this is what the group wants 
to use it for, by all means go for it.  But IMO, just cloning the IRC meeting 
is something that doesn’t sound right to me.

Thanks,
doug

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Subject: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] Wednesday meeting agenda topics

Hello all!

Earlier in the meetings we discussed using the Wednesday meeting for only 
Octavia discussions.  One of my teammates would like to allocate the Wednesday 
meeting time for face-to-face discussions of the same meeting topics we have on 
Thursday morning.  I think its a good idea to use the time that way at least 
until Octavia is more of a priority.  Does anyone else share this same concern? 
 Do we think that's a good use of that time?

-Trevor
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Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] Wednesday meeting agenda topics

2014-07-09 Thread Brandon Logan
My personal opinion is I prefer the IRC meetings right now.  I, personally, 
don't get any more value out of a video chat than I would with an IRC meeting.  
However, I know others do get more out of it, and that includes people on my 
team at Rackspace.  Basically, what I am saying is I'd be fine with only doing 
the IRC meeting, at least for now.  Once more focus is put on Octavia, then it 
would need its own meeting.

Thanks,
Brandon

From: Doug Wiegley [do...@a10networks.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2014 11:39 AM
To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)
Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] Wednesday meeting agenda topics

Have the IRC meetings been time constrained or unproductive?  Having a 
pre-meeting before the IRC meeting risks being exclusionary to the folks that 
can’t make it for that timezone, and I haven’t seen that the IRC meetings are 
having communication/decision issues, beyond it being bloody dang early.

The webex time slot is open for whatever, and if this is what the group wants 
to use it for, by all means go for it.  But IMO, just cloning the IRC meeting 
is something that doesn’t sound right to me.

Thanks,
doug

From: Trevor Vardeman 
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Subject: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] Wednesday meeting agenda topics

Hello all!

Earlier in the meetings we discussed using the Wednesday meeting for only 
Octavia discussions.  One of my teammates would like to allocate the Wednesday 
meeting time for face-to-face discussions of the same meeting topics we have on 
Thursday morning.  I think its a good idea to use the time that way at least 
until Octavia is more of a priority.  Does anyone else share this same concern? 
 Do we think that's a good use of that time?

-Trevor
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