Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] [Heat] Custom Nova Flavor creation through Heat (pt.2)

2014-05-20 Thread Jay Pipes
Hi Zane, sorry for the delayed response. Comments inline. On 05/06/2014 09:09 PM, Zane Bitter wrote: On 05/05/14 13:40, Solly Ross wrote: One thing that I was discussing with @jaypipes and @dansmith over on IRC was the possibility of breaking flavors down into separate components -- i.e have a

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] [Heat] Custom Nova Flavor creation through Heat (pt.2)

2014-05-20 Thread Zane Bitter
On 20/05/14 12:17, Jay Pipes wrote: Hi Zane, sorry for the delayed response. Comments inline. On 05/06/2014 09:09 PM, Zane Bitter wrote: On 05/05/14 13:40, Solly Ross wrote: One thing that I was discussing with @jaypipes and @dansmith over on IRC was the possibility of breaking flavors down

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] [Heat] Custom Nova Flavor creation through Heat (pt.2)

2014-05-20 Thread Dimitri Mazmanov
Hi! Comments inline. On 20/05/14 21:58, Zane Bitter zbit...@redhat.com wrote: On 20/05/14 12:17, Jay Pipes wrote: Hi Zane, sorry for the delayed response. Comments inline. You are assuming a public cloud provider use case above. As much as I tend to focus on the utility cloud model, where

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] [Heat] Custom Nova Flavor creation through Heat (pt.2)

2014-05-09 Thread Jiang, Yunhong
This is why there is a distinction between properties set on images vs properties set on flavours. Image properties, which a normal user can set, are restricted to aspects of the VM which don't involve consumption of compute host resources. Flavour properties, which only a user with

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] [Heat] Custom Nova Flavor creation through Heat (pt.2)

2014-05-08 Thread Daniel P. Berrange
On Mon, May 05, 2014 at 01:40:43PM -0400, Solly Ross wrote: One thing that I was discussing with @jaypipes and @dansmith over on IRC was the possibility of breaking flavors down into separate components -- i.e have a disk flavor, a CPU flavor, and a RAM flavor. This way, you still get the

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] [Heat] Custom Nova Flavor creation through Heat (pt.2)

2014-05-08 Thread Daniel P. Berrange
On Mon, May 05, 2014 at 07:40:08PM +, Dimitri Mazmanov wrote: This is good! Is there a blueprint describing this idea? Or any plans describing it in a blueprint? Would happily share the work. Should we mix it with flavors in horizon though? I¹m thinking of having a separate ³Resources²

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] [Heat] Custom Nova Flavor creation through Heat (pt.2)

2014-05-08 Thread Daniel P. Berrange
On Thu, May 08, 2014 at 11:22:38AM +0100, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: On Mon, May 05, 2014 at 07:40:08PM +, Dimitri Mazmanov wrote: This is good! Is there a blueprint describing this idea? Or any plans describing it in a blueprint? Would happily share the work. Should we mix it with

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] [Heat] Custom Nova Flavor creation through Heat (pt.2)

2014-05-08 Thread Solly Ross
...@redhat.com To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Sent: Thursday, May 8, 2014 5:08:32 AM Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] [Heat] Custom Nova Flavor creation through Heat (pt.2) On Mon, May 05, 2014 at 01:40:43PM -0400, Solly

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] [Heat] Custom Nova Flavor creation through Heat (pt.2)

2014-05-08 Thread Solly Ross
Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Sent: Thursday, May 8, 2014 10:51:47 AM Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] [Heat] Custom Nova Flavor creation through Heat (pt.2) The way I was thinking this would work would be to allow flavor bundles

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] [Heat] Custom Nova Flavor creation through Heat (pt.2)

2014-05-07 Thread Solly Ross
(response inline) - Original Message - From: Zane Bitter zbit...@redhat.com To: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Sent: Tuesday, May 6, 2014 9:09:09 PM Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] [Heat] Custom Nova Flavor creation through Heat (pt.2) On 05/05/14 13:40, Solly Ross wrote

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] [Heat] Custom Nova Flavor creation through Heat (pt.2)

2014-05-06 Thread Solly Ross
(not for usage questions) openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Sent: Monday, May 5, 2014 3:40:08 PM Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] [Heat] Custom Nova Flavor creation through Heat (pt.2) This is good! Is there a blueprint describing this idea? Or any plans describing it in a blueprint? Would happily share

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] [Heat] Custom Nova Flavor creation through Heat (pt.2)

2014-05-06 Thread Dimitri Mazmanov
3:40:08 PM Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] [Heat] Custom Nova Flavor creation through Heat (pt.2) This is good! Is there a blueprint describing this idea? Or any plans describing it in a blueprint? Would happily share the work. Should we mix it with flavors in horizon though? I¹m thinking

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] [Heat] Custom Nova Flavor creation through Heat (pt.2)

2014-05-06 Thread Jiang, Yunhong
-Original Message- From: Solly Ross [mailto:sr...@redhat.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2014 10:16 AM To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] [Heat] Custom Nova Flavor creation through Heat (pt.2) For your first question

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] [Heat] Custom Nova Flavor creation through Heat (pt.2)

2014-05-06 Thread Steven Hardy
On Mon, May 05, 2014 at 07:40:08PM +, Dimitri Mazmanov wrote: This is good! Is there a blueprint describing this idea? Or any plans describing it in a blueprint? Would happily share the work. Should we mix it with flavors in horizon though? I¹m thinking of having a separate ³Resources²

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] [Heat] Custom Nova Flavor creation through Heat (pt.2)

2014-05-06 Thread Zane Bitter
On 05/05/14 13:40, Solly Ross wrote: One thing that I was discussing with @jaypipes and @dansmith over on IRC was the possibility of breaking flavors down into separate components -- i.e have a disk flavor, a CPU flavor, and a RAM flavor. This way, you still get the control of the size of your

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova][Heat] Custom Nova Flavor creation through Heat (pt.2)

2014-05-05 Thread Serg Melikyan
Having project-scoped flavors will rid us of the identified issues, and will allow a more fine-grained way of managing physical resources. Flavors concept was introduced in clouds to solve issue with effective physical resource usage: 8Gb physical memory can be effectively splitted to two

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova][Heat] Custom Nova Flavor creation through Heat (pt.2)

2014-05-05 Thread Solly Ross
-allocated). Best Regards, Solly Ross - Original Message - From: Serg Melikyan smelik...@mirantis.com To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Sent: Monday, May 5, 2014 2:18:21 AM Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova][Heat] Custom Nova

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova][Heat] Custom Nova Flavor creation through Heat (pt.2)

2014-05-05 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Solly Ross's message of 2014-05-05 08:23:41 -0700: Just to expand a bit on this, flavors are supposed to be the lowest level of granularity, and the general idea is to round to the nearest flavor (so if you have a VM that requires 3GB of RAM, go with a 4GB flavor). Hence, in

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova][Heat] Custom Nova Flavor creation through Heat (pt.2)

2014-05-05 Thread Steve Gordon
- Original Message - Excerpts from Solly Ross's message of 2014-05-05 08:23:41 -0700: Just to expand a bit on this, flavors are supposed to be the lowest level of granularity, and the general idea is to round to the nearest flavor (so if you have a VM that requires 3GB of RAM,

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova][Heat] Custom Nova Flavor creation through Heat (pt.2)

2014-05-05 Thread Solly Ross
: Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova][Heat] Custom Nova Flavor creation through Heat (pt.2) Excerpts from Solly Ross's message of 2014-05-05 08:23:41 -0700: Just to expand a bit on this, flavors are supposed to be the lowest level of granularity, and the general idea is to round to the nearest flavor

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova][Heat] Custom Nova Flavor creation through Heat (pt.2)

2014-05-05 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Solly Ross's message of 2014-05-05 10:01:12 -0700: If you actually have 64 flavors, though, and it's overwhelming your users, it would be pretty trivial to implement a flavor recommender where you input your requirements and it pops out the nearest flavor. That being said, I do

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] [Heat] Custom Nova Flavor creation through Heat (pt.2)

2014-05-05 Thread Dimitri Mazmanov
Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova][Heat] Custom Nova Flavor creation through Heat (pt.2) Having project-scoped flavors will rid us of the identified issues, and will allow a more fine-grained way of managing physical resources. Flavors concept was introduced in clouds to solve issue with effective

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] [Heat] Custom Nova Flavor creation through Heat (pt.2)

2014-05-05 Thread Solly Ross
5, 2014 2:18:21 AM Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova][Heat] Custom Nova Flavor creation through Heat (pt.2) Having project-scoped flavors will rid us of the identified issues, and will allow a more fine-grained way of managing physical resources. Flavors concept was introduced in clouds to solve

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova][Heat] Custom Nova Flavor creation through Heat (pt.2)

2014-05-05 Thread Chris Friesen
On 05/05/2014 10:51 AM, Steve Gordon wrote: In addition extra specifications may denote the passthrough of additional devices, adding another dimension. This seems likely to be the case in the use case outlined in the original thread [1]. Thanks, Steve [1]

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] [Heat] Custom Nova Flavor creation through Heat (pt.2)

2014-05-05 Thread Chris Friesen
On 05/05/2014 11:40 AM, Solly Ross wrote: One thing that I was discussing with @jaypipes and @dansmith over on IRC was the possibility of breaking flavors down into separate components -- i.e have a disk flavor, a CPU flavor, and a RAM flavor. This way, you still get the control of the size of

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] [Heat] Custom Nova Flavor creation through Heat (pt.2)

2014-05-05 Thread Chris Friesen
On 05/05/2014 12:18 PM, Chris Friesen wrote: As a simplifying view you could keep the existing flavors which group all of them, while still allowing instances to specify each one separately if desired. Also, if we're allowing the cpu/memory/disk to be specified independently at instance boot

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] [Heat] Custom Nova Flavor creation through Heat (pt.2)

2014-05-05 Thread Dimitri Mazmanov
This is good! Is there a blueprint describing this idea? Or any plans describing it in a blueprint? Would happily share the work. Should we mix it with flavors in horizon though? I¹m thinking of having a separate ³Resources² page, wherein the user can ³define² resources. I¹m not a UX expert