Re: [openstack-dev] [Openstack-sigs] [all][tc] We're combining the lists!
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Re: [openstack-dev] [Openstack-sigs] [all][tc] We're combining the lists!
On 20/09/18 5:46 PM, Doug Hellmann wrote: Excerpts from Jeremy Stanley's message of 2018-09-20 16:32:49 +: tl;dr: The openstack, openstack-dev, openstack-sigs and openstack-operators mailing lists (to which this is being sent) will be replaced by a new openstack-disc...@lists.openstack.org mailing list. Since last week there was some discussion of including the openstack-tc mailing list among these lists to eliminate confusion caused by the fact that the list is not configured to accept messages from all subscribers (it's meant to be used for us to make sure TC members see meeting announcements). I'm inclined to include it and either use a direct mailing or the [tc] tag on the new discuss list to reach TC members, but I would like to hear feedback from TC members and other interested parties before calling that decision made. Please let me know what you think. +1. I already sort mail to the -tc list and mail to the -dev list with the [tc] tag into the same mailbox, so the value to me of having a list that only TC members can post to without moderation is zero. - ZB __ OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
Re: [openstack-dev] [Openstack-sigs] [all][tc] We're combining the lists!
In my mind, there is value to having a mailing list for things like important meetings, but it seems more reasonable to just address such items as needed. At the same time, I agree with ttx, the separate list is no longer useful. +1 On Fri, Sep 21, 2018 at 5:24 AM Thierry Carrez wrote: > > Doug Hellmann wrote: > > I'm inclined to include it and either use a direct mailing or the > > [tc] tag on the new discuss list to reach TC members, but I would > > like to hear feedback from TC members and other interested parties > > before calling that decision made. Please let me know what you think. > > +1 -- the separate list has outlived its usefulness. > > -- > Thierry Carrez (ttx) > > __ > OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) > Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev __ OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
Re: [openstack-dev] [Openstack-sigs] [all][tc] We're combining the lists!
Doug Hellmann wrote: I'm inclined to include it and either use a direct mailing or the [tc] tag on the new discuss list to reach TC members, but I would like to hear feedback from TC members and other interested parties before calling that decision made. Please let me know what you think. +1 -- the separate list has outlived its usefulness. -- Thierry Carrez (ttx) __ OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
Re: [openstack-dev] [Openstack-sigs] [all][tc] We're combining the lists! (was: Bringing the community together...)
On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 2:48 PM Doug Hellmann wrote: > > Excerpts from Jeremy Stanley's message of 2018-09-20 16:32:49 +: > > tl;dr: The openstack, openstack-dev, openstack-sigs and > > openstack-operators mailing lists (to which this is being sent) will > > be replaced by a new openstack-disc...@lists.openstack.org mailing > > list. > > Since last week there was some discussion of including the openstack-tc > mailing list among these lists to eliminate confusion caused by the fact > that the list is not configured to accept messages from all subscribers > (it's meant to be used for us to make sure TC members see meeting > announcements). > > I'm inclined to include it and either use a direct mailing or the > [tc] tag on the new discuss list to reach TC members, but I would > like to hear feedback from TC members and other interested parties > before calling that decision made. Please let me know what you think. > > Doug > +1 including the TC list as a tag makes sense to me and my tangent about intent in online communities. __ OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
Re: [openstack-dev] [Openstack-sigs] [all][tc] We're combining the lists! (was: Bringing the community together...)
On Fri, 21 Sep 2018 06:46:43 +0900 Doug Hellmann wrote > Excerpts from Jeremy Stanley's message of 2018-09-20 16:32:49 +: > > tl;dr: The openstack, openstack-dev, openstack-sigs and > > openstack-operators mailing lists (to which this is being sent) will > > be replaced by a new openstack-disc...@lists.openstack.org mailing > > list. > > Since last week there was some discussion of including the openstack-tc > mailing list among these lists to eliminate confusion caused by the fact > that the list is not configured to accept messages from all subscribers > (it's meant to be used for us to make sure TC members see meeting > announcements). > > I'm inclined to include it and either use a direct mailing or the > [tc] tag on the new discuss list to reach TC members, but I would > like to hear feedback from TC members and other interested parties > before calling that decision made. Please let me know what you think. +1 on including the openstack-tc also. That will help to get more attentions on TC discussions from other group also. -gmann > > Doug > > __ > OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) > Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev > __ OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
Re: [openstack-dev] [Openstack-sigs] [all][tc] We're combining the lists! (was: Bringing the community together...)
+1 and thanks for the effort to make this happen On Fri, Sep 21, 2018, 9:22 AM Lance Bragstad wrote: > > > On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 7:19 PM Sean McGinnis > wrote: > >> On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 03:46:43PM -0600, Doug Hellmann wrote: >> > Excerpts from Jeremy Stanley's message of 2018-09-20 16:32:49 +: >> > > tl;dr: The openstack, openstack-dev, openstack-sigs and >> > > openstack-operators mailing lists (to which this is being sent) will >> > > be replaced by a new openstack-disc...@lists.openstack.org mailing >> > > list. >> > >> > Since last week there was some discussion of including the openstack-tc >> > mailing list among these lists to eliminate confusion caused by the fact >> > that the list is not configured to accept messages from all subscribers >> > (it's meant to be used for us to make sure TC members see meeting >> > announcements). >> > >> > I'm inclined to include it and either use a direct mailing or the >> > [tc] tag on the new discuss list to reach TC members, but I would >> > like to hear feedback from TC members and other interested parties >> > before calling that decision made. Please let me know what you think. >> > >> > Doug >> > >> >> This makes sense to me. I would rather have any discussions where >> everyone is >> likely to see them than to continue with the current separation. >> > > +1 > > >> >> >> __ >> OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) >> Unsubscribe: >> openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe >> http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev >> > __ > OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) > Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev > __ OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
Re: [openstack-dev] [Openstack-sigs] [all][tc] We're combining the lists! (was: Bringing the community together...)
On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 7:19 PM Sean McGinnis wrote: > On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 03:46:43PM -0600, Doug Hellmann wrote: > > Excerpts from Jeremy Stanley's message of 2018-09-20 16:32:49 +: > > > tl;dr: The openstack, openstack-dev, openstack-sigs and > > > openstack-operators mailing lists (to which this is being sent) will > > > be replaced by a new openstack-disc...@lists.openstack.org mailing > > > list. > > > > Since last week there was some discussion of including the openstack-tc > > mailing list among these lists to eliminate confusion caused by the fact > > that the list is not configured to accept messages from all subscribers > > (it's meant to be used for us to make sure TC members see meeting > > announcements). > > > > I'm inclined to include it and either use a direct mailing or the > > [tc] tag on the new discuss list to reach TC members, but I would > > like to hear feedback from TC members and other interested parties > > before calling that decision made. Please let me know what you think. > > > > Doug > > > > This makes sense to me. I would rather have any discussions where everyone > is > likely to see them than to continue with the current separation. > +1 > > > __ > OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) > Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev > __ OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
Re: [openstack-dev] [Openstack-sigs] [all][tc] We're combining the lists! (was: Bringing the community together...)
On Fri, Sep 21, 2018 at 5:59 AM Melvin Hillsman wrote: > > I agree all lists should be merged as discussed otherwise why not just leave all things as they are :P Yeah, if we merged all lists, it's much easier for all to know exactly where they can go for trigger discussions. I doubt all experienced developers and ops are subscribe all list that relative to them. >From this point, and combine with global reach out, we can easily give correct information for newcomers. I'm tired to put `[openstack-dev][Openstack-operators][Openstack-sigs]` in front of my mail title, that just pure madness -- May The Force of OpenStack Be With You, Rico Lin irc: ricolin __ OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
Re: [openstack-dev] [Openstack-sigs] [all][tc] We're combining the lists! (was: Bringing the community together...)
On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 03:46:43PM -0600, Doug Hellmann wrote: > Excerpts from Jeremy Stanley's message of 2018-09-20 16:32:49 +: > > tl;dr: The openstack, openstack-dev, openstack-sigs and > > openstack-operators mailing lists (to which this is being sent) will > > be replaced by a new openstack-disc...@lists.openstack.org mailing > > list. > > Since last week there was some discussion of including the openstack-tc > mailing list among these lists to eliminate confusion caused by the fact > that the list is not configured to accept messages from all subscribers > (it's meant to be used for us to make sure TC members see meeting > announcements). > > I'm inclined to include it and either use a direct mailing or the > [tc] tag on the new discuss list to reach TC members, but I would > like to hear feedback from TC members and other interested parties > before calling that decision made. Please let me know what you think. > > Doug > This makes sense to me. I would rather have any discussions where everyone is likely to see them than to continue with the current separation. __ OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
Re: [openstack-dev] [Openstack-sigs] [all][tc] We're combining the lists! (was: Bringing the community together...)
On 2018-09-20 15:46:43 -0600 (-0600), Doug Hellmann wrote: [...] > Since last week there was some discussion of including the openstack-tc > mailing list among these lists to eliminate confusion caused by the fact > that the list is not configured to accept messages from all subscribers > (it's meant to be used for us to make sure TC members see meeting > announcements). [...] I think it makes sense. The Interop WG also indicated they'd like to do the same with theirs. In cases like these where the lists in question have much lower volume anyway, I don't think any special handling is needed. Basically any time after November 19 just send a post to the old list saying that subsequent messages need to go to openstack-discuss instead, and then immediately set it to no longer accept new messages. -- Jeremy Stanley signature.asc Description: PGP signature __ OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
Re: [openstack-dev] [Openstack-sigs] [all][tc] We're combining the lists! (was: Bringing the community together...)
+1 from me. On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 5:59 PM Melvin Hillsman wrote: > I agree all lists should be merged as discussed otherwise why not just > leave all things as they are :P > > On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 4:49 PM Emilien Macchi wrote: > >> >> >> On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 5:47 PM Doug Hellmann >> wrote: >> >>> Excerpts from Jeremy Stanley's message of 2018-09-20 16:32:49 +: >>> > tl;dr: The openstack, openstack-dev, openstack-sigs and >>> > openstack-operators mailing lists (to which this is being sent) will >>> > be replaced by a new openstack-disc...@lists.openstack.org mailing >>> > list. >>> >>> Since last week there was some discussion of including the openstack-tc >>> mailing list among these lists to eliminate confusion caused by the fact >>> that the list is not configured to accept messages from all subscribers >>> (it's meant to be used for us to make sure TC members see meeting >>> announcements). >>> >>> I'm inclined to include it and either use a direct mailing or the >>> [tc] tag on the new discuss list to reach TC members, but I would >>> like to hear feedback from TC members and other interested parties >>> before calling that decision made. Please let me know what you think. >>> >> >> +2 , easier to manage, easier to reach out. >> -- >> Emilien Macchi >> __ >> OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) >> Unsubscribe: >> openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe >> http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev >> > > > -- > Kind regards, > > Melvin Hillsman > mrhills...@gmail.com > mobile: (832) 264-2646 > __ > OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) > Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev > -- Davanum Srinivas :: https://twitter.com/dims __ OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
Re: [openstack-dev] [Openstack-sigs] [all][tc] We're combining the lists! (was: Bringing the community together...)
I agree all lists should be merged as discussed otherwise why not just leave all things as they are :P On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 4:49 PM Emilien Macchi wrote: > > > On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 5:47 PM Doug Hellmann > wrote: > >> Excerpts from Jeremy Stanley's message of 2018-09-20 16:32:49 +: >> > tl;dr: The openstack, openstack-dev, openstack-sigs and >> > openstack-operators mailing lists (to which this is being sent) will >> > be replaced by a new openstack-disc...@lists.openstack.org mailing >> > list. >> >> Since last week there was some discussion of including the openstack-tc >> mailing list among these lists to eliminate confusion caused by the fact >> that the list is not configured to accept messages from all subscribers >> (it's meant to be used for us to make sure TC members see meeting >> announcements). >> >> I'm inclined to include it and either use a direct mailing or the >> [tc] tag on the new discuss list to reach TC members, but I would >> like to hear feedback from TC members and other interested parties >> before calling that decision made. Please let me know what you think. >> > > +2 , easier to manage, easier to reach out. > -- > Emilien Macchi > __ > OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) > Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev > -- Kind regards, Melvin Hillsman mrhills...@gmail.com mobile: (832) 264-2646 __ OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
Re: [openstack-dev] [Openstack-sigs] [all][tc] We're combining the lists! (was: Bringing the community together...)
On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 5:47 PM Doug Hellmann wrote: > Excerpts from Jeremy Stanley's message of 2018-09-20 16:32:49 +: > > tl;dr: The openstack, openstack-dev, openstack-sigs and > > openstack-operators mailing lists (to which this is being sent) will > > be replaced by a new openstack-disc...@lists.openstack.org mailing > > list. > > Since last week there was some discussion of including the openstack-tc > mailing list among these lists to eliminate confusion caused by the fact > that the list is not configured to accept messages from all subscribers > (it's meant to be used for us to make sure TC members see meeting > announcements). > > I'm inclined to include it and either use a direct mailing or the > [tc] tag on the new discuss list to reach TC members, but I would > like to hear feedback from TC members and other interested parties > before calling that decision made. Please let me know what you think. > +2 , easier to manage, easier to reach out. -- Emilien Macchi __ OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
Re: [openstack-dev] [Openstack-sigs] [all][tc] We're combining the lists! (was: Bringing the community together...)
Excerpts from Jeremy Stanley's message of 2018-09-20 16:32:49 +: > tl;dr: The openstack, openstack-dev, openstack-sigs and > openstack-operators mailing lists (to which this is being sent) will > be replaced by a new openstack-disc...@lists.openstack.org mailing > list. Since last week there was some discussion of including the openstack-tc mailing list among these lists to eliminate confusion caused by the fact that the list is not configured to accept messages from all subscribers (it's meant to be used for us to make sure TC members see meeting announcements). I'm inclined to include it and either use a direct mailing or the [tc] tag on the new discuss list to reach TC members, but I would like to hear feedback from TC members and other interested parties before calling that decision made. Please let me know what you think. Doug __ OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev