Re: [openstack-dev] [Openstack-sigs] Open letter/request to TC candidates (and existing elected officials)

2018-09-17 Thread Rico Lin
Hope you all safely travel back to home now. Here is the summarize from some discussions (as much as I can trigger or attend) in PTG for SIGs/WGs expose and some idea for action, http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2018-September/134689.html I also like the idea to at least expose

Re: [openstack-dev] [Openstack-sigs] Open letter/request to TC candidates (and existing elected officials)

2018-09-14 Thread Davanum Srinivas
Folks, Sorry for the top post - Those of you that are still at PTG, please feel free to drop in to the Clear Creek room today. Thanks, Dims On Thu, Sep 13, 2018 at 2:44 PM Jeremy Stanley wrote: > On 2018-09-12 17:50:30 -0600 (-0600), Matt Riedemann wrote: > [...] > > Again, I'm not saying TC

Re: [openstack-dev] [Openstack-sigs] Open letter/request to TC candidates (and existing elected officials)

2018-09-13 Thread Jeremy Stanley
On 2018-09-12 17:50:30 -0600 (-0600), Matt Riedemann wrote: [...] > Again, I'm not saying TC members should be doing all of the work > themselves. That's not realistic, especially when critical parts > of any major effort are going to involve developers from projects > on which none of the TC

Re: [openstack-dev] [Openstack-sigs] Open letter/request to TC candidates (and existing elected officials)

2018-09-13 Thread Samuel Cassiba
On Thu, Sep 13, 2018 at 9:14 AM, Fox, Kevin M wrote: > How about stated this way, > Its the tc's responsibility to get it done. Either by delegating the > activity, or by doing it themselves. But either way, it needs to get done. > Its a ball that has been dropped too much in OpenStacks

Re: [openstack-dev] [Openstack-sigs] Open letter/request to TC candidates (and existing elected officials)

2018-09-13 Thread Zhipeng Huang
On Thu, Sep 13, 2018 at 10:15 AM Fox, Kevin M wrote: > How about stated this way, > Its the tc's responsibility to get it done. Either by delegating the > activity, or by doing it themselves. But either way, it needs to get done. > Its a ball that has been dropped too much in OpenStacks history.

Re: [openstack-dev] [Openstack-sigs] Open letter/request to TC candidates (and existing elected officials)

2018-09-13 Thread Fox, Kevin M
-operat...@lists.openstack.org Subject: Re: [Openstack-sigs] [openstack-dev] Open letter/request to TC candidates (and existing elected officials) On 9/12/2018 3:30 PM, Dan Smith wrote: >> I'm just a bit worried to limit that role to the elected TC members. If >> we say "it's the rol

Re: [openstack-dev] [Openstack-sigs] Open letter/request to TC candidates (and existing elected officials)

2018-09-13 Thread Ghanshyam Mann
On Thu, 13 Sep 2018 08:05:17 +0900 Lance Bragstad wrote > > > On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 3:55 PM Jeremy Stanley wrote: > On 2018-09-12 09:47:27 -0600 (-0600), Matt Riedemann wrote: > [...] > > So I encourage all elected TC members to work directly with the > > various SIGs

Re: [openstack-dev] [Openstack-sigs] Open letter/request to TC candidates (and existing elected officials)

2018-09-12 Thread Melvin Hillsman
You're welcome! -- Kind regards, Melvin Hillsman mrhills...@gmail.com mobile: (832) 264-2646 On Wed, Sep 12, 2018, 5:52 PM Matt Riedemann wrote: > On 9/12/2018 5:32 PM, Melvin Hillsman wrote: > > We basically spent the day focusing on two things specific to what you > > bring up and are in

Re: [openstack-dev] [Openstack-sigs] Open letter/request to TC candidates (and existing elected officials)

2018-09-12 Thread Matt Riedemann
On 9/12/2018 5:32 PM, Melvin Hillsman wrote: We basically spent the day focusing on two things specific to what you bring up and are in agreement with you regarding action not just talk around feedback and outreach. [1] We wiped the agenda clean, discussed our availability (set reasonable

Re: [openstack-dev] [Openstack-sigs] Open letter/request to TC candidates (and existing elected officials)

2018-09-12 Thread Matt Riedemann
On 9/12/2018 5:13 PM, Jeremy Stanley wrote: Sure, and I'm saying that instead I think the influence of TC members_can_ be more valuable in finding and helping additional people to do these things rather than doing it all themselves, and it's not just about the limited number of available hours

Re: [openstack-dev] [Openstack-sigs] Open letter/request to TC candidates (and existing elected officials)

2018-09-12 Thread Melvin Hillsman
We basically spent the day focusing on two things specific to what you bring up and are in agreement with you regarding action not just talk around feedback and outreach. [1] We wiped the agenda clean, discussed our availability (set reasonable expectations), and revisited how we can be more

Re: [openstack-dev] [Openstack-sigs] Open letter/request to TC candidates (and existing elected officials)

2018-09-12 Thread Jeremy Stanley
On 2018-09-12 17:05:17 -0600 (-0600), Lance Bragstad wrote: [...] > IMHO, I think the point Matt is making here is more about ensuring > sure we have people to do what we've agreed upon, as a community, > as being mission critical. Enablement is imperative, but no matter > how good we are at it,

Re: [openstack-dev] [Openstack-sigs] Open letter/request to TC candidates (and existing elected officials)

2018-09-12 Thread Jeremy Stanley
On 2018-09-12 17:03:10 -0600 (-0600), Matt Riedemann wrote: > On 9/12/2018 4:14 PM, Jeremy Stanley wrote: > > I think Doug's work leading the Python 3 First effort is a great > > example. He has helped find and enable several other goal champions > > to collaborate on this. I appreciate the

Re: [openstack-dev] [Openstack-sigs] Open letter/request to TC candidates (and existing elected officials)

2018-09-12 Thread Lance Bragstad
On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 3:55 PM Jeremy Stanley wrote: > On 2018-09-12 09:47:27 -0600 (-0600), Matt Riedemann wrote: > [...] > > So I encourage all elected TC members to work directly with the > > various SIGs to figure out their top issue and then work on > > managing those deliverables across

Re: [openstack-dev] [Openstack-sigs] Open letter/request to TC candidates (and existing elected officials)

2018-09-12 Thread Matt Riedemann
On 9/12/2018 4:14 PM, Jeremy Stanley wrote: I think Doug's work leading the Python 3 First effort is a great example. He has helped find and enable several other goal champions to collaborate on this. I appreciate the variety of other things Doug already does with his available time and would

Re: [openstack-dev] [Openstack-sigs] Open letter/request to TC candidates (and existing elected officials)

2018-09-12 Thread Matt Riedemann
On 9/12/2018 3:55 PM, Jeremy Stanley wrote: I almost agree with you. I think the OpenStack TC members should be actively engaged in recruiting and enabling interested people in the community to do those things, but I don't think such work should be solely the domain of the TC and would hate to

Re: [openstack-dev] [Openstack-sigs] Open letter/request to TC candidates (and existing elected officials)

2018-09-12 Thread Jeremy Stanley
On 2018-09-12 16:03:12 -0600 (-0600), Zhipeng Huang wrote: > On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 3:55 PM Jeremy Stanley wrote: > > On 2018-09-12 09:47:27 -0600 (-0600), Matt Riedemann wrote: > > [...] > > > So I encourage all elected TC members to work directly with the > > > various SIGs to figure out their

Re: [openstack-dev] [Openstack-sigs] Open letter/request to TC candidates (and existing elected officials)

2018-09-12 Thread Zhipeng Huang
On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 3:55 PM Jeremy Stanley wrote: > On 2018-09-12 09:47:27 -0600 (-0600), Matt Riedemann wrote: > [...] > > So I encourage all elected TC members to work directly with the > > various SIGs to figure out their top issue and then work on > > managing those deliverables across

Re: [openstack-dev] [Openstack-sigs] Open letter/request to TC candidates (and existing elected officials)

2018-09-12 Thread Jeremy Stanley
On 2018-09-12 09:47:27 -0600 (-0600), Matt Riedemann wrote: [...] > So I encourage all elected TC members to work directly with the > various SIGs to figure out their top issue and then work on > managing those deliverables across the community because the TC is > particularly well suited to do so

Re: [openstack-dev] [Openstack-sigs] Open letter/request to TC candidates (and existing elected officials)

2018-09-12 Thread Zhipeng Huang
Well Public Cloud WG has prepared the ammo as you know and to discuss with TC on Friday :) A hundred percent with you on this matter. On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 9:47 AM Matt Riedemann wrote: > Rather than take a tangent on Kristi's candidacy thread [1], I'll bring > this up separately. > > Kristi