Re: [openstack-dev] [PTLs][all][mentoring] Mentors needed in specific technical areas

[Emily K Hugenbruch]

Hi Sean,
Thanks for volunteering!  Please fill out the signup form here:
https://openstackfoundation.formstack.com/forms/mentoring

~Emily Hugenbruch
IRC: ekhugen

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I can be one of the mentors for those interested in the Neutron project

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Re: [openstack-dev] [PTLs][all][mentoring] Mentors needed in specific technical areas

[Sean M. Collins]

I can be one of the mentors for those interested in the Neutron project

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Re: [openstack-dev] [PTLs][all][mentoring] Mentors needed in specific technical areas

[Emily K Hugenbruch]

Amrith,

This is a separate program from outreachy.  Typically outreachy is more of
an internship.  This program is supposed to be more of a "we meet for an
hour once a week to go over some questions" or "I'm stuck on what to work
on next, can you suggest a few things".  Something more lightweight for the
mentors and mentees.

Thanks for noticing the links.  One should've pointed to
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BxtM4AiszlEyVkEtdktmWjBPN3c/view.  We do
have a wiki page for mentoring where we're listing the different types of
mentoring, so if projects have links for newcomers, you can add them here:
https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Mentors  We're debating how to best lay out
the page right now, but eventually we'll move it to a more permanent place
than a wiki.
Thanks!
Emily Hugenbruch
IRC: ekhugen
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Emily,

Is this mentoring program in any way related to Outreachy[1] or is that a
different program altogether?

Your email says, "people to the guidelines (here<
https://docs.google.com/document/d/10ZJz0oX_V944o84xe-l67zvy2kf1RyCzpudU2fTlDOA
> and here<
https://docs.google.com/document/d/10ZJz0oX_V944o84xe-l67zvy2kf1RyCzpudU2fTlDOA/edit
>) and". Both of those appear to be links to the same document.

Thanks,

-amrith

[1] https://www.gnome.org/outreachy/

From: Emily K Hugenbruch [mailto:ekhugenbr...@us.ibm.com]
Sent: Monday, May 23, 2016 10:25 AM
To: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org
Subject: [openstack-dev] [PTLs][all][mentoring] Mentors needed in specific
technical areas


Hi,
The lightweight mentoring program sponsored by the Women of OpenStack has
really taken off, and we have about 35 mentees looking for technical help
that we don't have mentors for. We're asking for help from the PTLs to
announce the mentoring program in team meetings then direct people to the
guidelines (here<
https://docs.google.com/document/d/10ZJz0oX_V944o84xe-l67zvy2kf1RyCzpudU2fTlDOA
> and here<
https://docs.google.com/document/d/10ZJz0oX_V944o84xe-l67zvy2kf1RyCzpudU2fTlDOA/edit
>) and signup form<
https://openstackfoundation.formstack.com/forms/mentoring> if they're
interested.

Mentors should be regular contributors to a project, with an interest in
helping new people and about 4 hours a month for mentoring. They do not
have to be women; the program is just sponsored by WoO, we welcome all
mentees and mentors.

These are the projects/areas where we especially need mentors:

 *   Cinder
 *   Containers
 *   Documentation
 *   Glance
 *   Keystone
 *   Murano
 *   Neutron
 *   Nova
 *   Ops
 *   Searchlight
 *   Telemetry
 *   TripleO
 *   Trove
If you have any questions you can contact me, or ask on openstack-women
where the mentoring committee hangs out.
Thanks!
Emily Hugenbruch
IRC: ekhugen
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Re: [openstack-dev] [PTLs][all][mentoring] Mentors needed in specific technical areas

[Mike Perez]

On 19:12 May 24, Augustina Ragwitz wrote:
>  
> >> On 12:54 May 24, Augustina Ragwitz wrote:
> >> Hi Emily,
> >>
> >> I'm the Nova Mentoring Czar and we have a Wiki page with a list of
> >> projects that would be good for new contributors:
> >> https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Nova/Mentoring
> >>
> >> For Nova, I'd encourage potential contributors to get involved with a
> >> specific project so that mentoring can happen organically. Interested
> >> folks are more than welcome to reach out to me, preferably by email.
> >
> > There's an assumption here that all projects have things in place
> > to begin
> > mentoring people. With the people we've spoken to, sometimes just
> > reaching on
> > IRC gave no answers. This is actually matching people to
> > someone who has
> > knowledge and is interested/has time to mentor. Even if a match
> > can't be made
> > right away, communication is made. First impressions with on
> > boarding is key.
> >
> > --
> > Mike Perez
>  
> I'm a little confused by your response. I wasn't making any assumptions
> or intending to criticize this mentorship program. I understood that
> Emily had highlighted gaps in certain technical areas, of which Nova is
> one. In recognition of the challenges faced by new contributors, the
> Nova team had a session at the Newton Design Summit where we discussed
> ideas on how to address these challenges within our own team. One
> outcome of this session is that I volunteered for the role of Mentoring
> Czar. When I saw Emily's original post, I thought this information might
> be relevant. My intention is to share our resources for new contributors
> and present myself as a contact point so this information could be
> provided to participants in the mentorship program that don't have
> mentors assigned. In fact, if other projects do have things in place for
> new contributors, it would probably be helpful if they also provided
> this information to the mentorship program.
>  
> Again, my intention was not to criticize and I think any effort to
> encourage new contributors is a good thing. I apologize if my original
> response suggested otherwise.

You're right Augustina. I took your response of "potential contributors to get
involved with a specific project so that mentoring can happen organically" out
of context from just the scope of Nova. Apologies for the confusion.

-- 
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Re: [openstack-dev] [PTLs][all][mentoring] Mentors needed in specific technical areas

[Amrith Kumar]

From: Augustina Ragwitz [mailto:aragwitz.li...@pobox.com]
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 10:12 PM
To: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org
Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [PTLs][all][mentoring] Mentors needed in specific 
technical areas


On 12:54 May 24, Augustina Ragwitz wrote:
Hi Emily,

I'm the Nova Mentoring Czar and we have a Wiki page with a list of
projects that would be good for new contributors:
https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Nova/Mentoring

For Nova, I'd encourage potential contributors to get involved with a
specific project so that mentoring can happen organically. Interested
folks are more than welcome to reach out to me, preferably by email.

There's an assumption here that all projects have things in place to begin
mentoring people. With the people we've spoken to, sometimes just reaching on

[amrith] Maybe Mike is saying that the assumption in Emily's email is that all 
projects have something in place to begin mentoring people?


IRC gave no answers. This is actually matching people to someone who has
knowledge and is interested/has time to mentor. Even if a match can't be made
right away, communication is made. First impressions with on boarding is key.

[amrith] Yes, first impressions are key and my (unfortunate) experience with 
mentorship in the recent past has been very unfortunate. I think the website 
that auggy has put together is a great first impression and I'd like to make 
something like that for Trove.
--
Mike Perez

I'm a little confused by your response. I wasn't making any assumptions or 
intending to criticize this mentorship program. I understood that Emily had 
highlighted gaps in certain technical areas, of which Nova is one. In 
recognition of the challenges faced by new contributors, the Nova team had a 
session at the Newton Design Summit where we discussed ideas on how to address 
these challenges within our own team. One outcome of this session is that I 
volunteered for the role of Mentoring Czar. When I saw Emily's original post, I 
thought this information might be relevant. My intention is to share our 
resources for new contributors and present myself as a contact point so this 
information could be provided to participants in the mentorship program that 
don't have mentors assigned. In fact, if other projects do have things in place 
for new contributors, it would probably be helpful if they also provided this 
information to the mentorship program.

Again, my intention was not to criticize and I think any effort to encourage 
new contributors is a good thing. I apologize if my original response suggested 
otherwise.

--
Augustina Ragwitz
irc: auggy
Augustina Ragwitz
Sr Systems Software Engineer, HPE Cloud
Hewlett Packard Enterprise
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Re: [openstack-dev] [PTLs][all][mentoring] Mentors needed in specific technical areas

[Amrith Kumar]

Auggy,

This is a great wiki page and would love to see a high level "OpenStack 
Mentoring" page with links to projects that have this kind of "beginners guide".

I'll try and do something similar for Trove but you've set the bar very high.

-amrith

> -Original Message-
> From: Augustina Ragwitz [mailto:aragwitz.li...@pobox.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 3:55 PM
> To: OpenStack Development Mailing List <openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org>
> Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [PTLs][all][mentoring] Mentors needed in
> specific technical areas
> 
> Hi Emily,
> 
> I'm the Nova Mentoring Czar and we have a Wiki page with a list of
> projects that would be good for new contributors:
> https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Nova/Mentoring
> 
> For Nova, I'd encourage potential contributors to get involved with a
> specific project so that mentoring can happen organically. Interested
> folks are more than welcome to reach out to me, preferably by email.
> 
> --
> Augustina Ragwitz
> Sr Systems Software Engineer, HPE Cloud
> Hewlett Packard Enterprise
> ---
> irc: auggy
> 
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Re: [openstack-dev] [PTLs][all][mentoring] Mentors needed in specific technical areas

[Amrith Kumar]

Emily,

Is this mentoring program in any way related to Outreachy[1] or is that a 
different program altogether?

Your email says, "people to the guidelines 
(here
 and 
here)
 and". Both of those appear to be links to the same document.

Thanks,

-amrith

[1] https://www.gnome.org/outreachy/

From: Emily K Hugenbruch [mailto:ekhugenbr...@us.ibm.com]
Sent: Monday, May 23, 2016 10:25 AM
To: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org
Subject: [openstack-dev] [PTLs][all][mentoring] Mentors needed in specific 
technical areas


Hi,
The lightweight mentoring program sponsored by the Women of OpenStack has 
really taken off, and we have about 35 mentees looking for technical help that 
we don't have mentors for. We're asking for help from the PTLs to announce the 
mentoring program in team meetings then direct people to the guidelines 
(here
 and 
here)
 and signup form if 
they're interested.

Mentors should be regular contributors to a project, with an interest in 
helping new people and about 4 hours a month for mentoring. They do not have to 
be women; the program is just sponsored by WoO, we welcome all mentees and 
mentors.

These are the projects/areas where we especially need mentors:

 *   Cinder
 *   Containers
 *   Documentation
 *   Glance
 *   Keystone
 *   Murano
 *   Neutron
 *   Nova
 *   Ops
 *   Searchlight
 *   Telemetry
 *   TripleO
 *   Trove
If you have any questions you can contact me, or ask on openstack-women where 
the mentoring committee hangs out.
Thanks!
Emily Hugenbruch
IRC: ekhugen
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Re: [openstack-dev] [PTLs][all][mentoring] Mentors needed in specific technical areas

[Augustina Ragwitz]

 
>> On 12:54 May 24, Augustina Ragwitz wrote:
>> Hi Emily,
>>
>> I'm the Nova Mentoring Czar and we have a Wiki page with a list of
>> projects that would be good for new contributors:
>> https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Nova/Mentoring
>>
>> For Nova, I'd encourage potential contributors to get involved with a
>> specific project so that mentoring can happen organically. Interested
>> folks are more than welcome to reach out to me, preferably by email.
>
> There's an assumption here that all projects have things in place
> to begin
> mentoring people. With the people we've spoken to, sometimes just
> reaching on
> IRC gave no answers. This is actually matching people to
> someone who has
> knowledge and is interested/has time to mentor. Even if a match
> can't be made
> right away, communication is made. First impressions with on
> boarding is key.
>
> --
> Mike Perez
 
I'm a little confused by your response. I wasn't making any assumptions
or intending to criticize this mentorship program. I understood that
Emily had highlighted gaps in certain technical areas, of which Nova is
one. In recognition of the challenges faced by new contributors, the
Nova team had a session at the Newton Design Summit where we discussed
ideas on how to address these challenges within our own team. One
outcome of this session is that I volunteered for the role of Mentoring
Czar. When I saw Emily's original post, I thought this information might
be relevant. My intention is to share our resources for new contributors
and present myself as a contact point so this information could be
provided to participants in the mentorship program that don't have
mentors assigned. In fact, if other projects do have things in place for
new contributors, it would probably be helpful if they also provided
this information to the mentorship program.
 
Again, my intention was not to criticize and I think any effort to
encourage new contributors is a good thing. I apologize if my original
response suggested otherwise.
 
--
Augustina Ragwitz
irc: auggy
Augustina Ragwitz
Sr Systems Software Engineer, HPE Cloud
Hewlett Packard Enterprise
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Re: [openstack-dev] [PTLs][all][mentoring] Mentors needed in specific technical areas

[Mike Perez]

On 12:54 May 24, Augustina Ragwitz wrote:
> Hi Emily,
> 
> I'm the Nova Mentoring Czar and we have a Wiki page with a list of
> projects that would be good for new contributors:
> https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Nova/Mentoring
> 
> For Nova, I'd encourage potential contributors to get involved with a
> specific project so that mentoring can happen organically. Interested
> folks are more than welcome to reach out to me, preferably by email.

There's an assumption here that all projects have things in place to begin
mentoring people. With the people we've spoken to, sometimes just reaching on
IRC gave no answers. This is actually matching people to someone who has
knowledge and is interested/has time to mentor. Even if a match can't be made
right away, communication is made. First impressions with on boarding is key.

-- 
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Re: [openstack-dev] [PTLs][all][mentoring] Mentors needed in specific technical areas

[Augustina Ragwitz]

Hi Emily,

I'm the Nova Mentoring Czar and we have a Wiki page with a list of
projects that would be good for new contributors:
https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Nova/Mentoring

For Nova, I'd encourage potential contributors to get involved with a
specific project so that mentoring can happen organically. Interested
folks are more than welcome to reach out to me, preferably by email.

-- 
Augustina Ragwitz
Sr Systems Software Engineer, HPE Cloud
Hewlett Packard Enterprise
---
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Re: [openstack-dev] [PTLs][all][mentoring] Mentors needed in specific technical areas

[Sean McGinnis]

Hi Emily,

You have a couple spots in your message that look like they were
supposed to be hyperlinks. Do you have those links to the guidelines and
sign up form?

Great program - glad to see it's taking off!

Thanks,
Sean

On Mon, May 23, 2016 at 10:24:57AM -0400, Emily K Hugenbruch wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi,
> The lightweight mentoring program sponsored by the Women of OpenStack has
> really taken off, and we have about 35 mentees looking for technical help
> that we don't have mentors for.  We're asking for help from the PTLs to
> announce the mentoring program in team meetings then direct people to the
> guidelines (here and here) and signup form if they're interested.
> 
> Mentors should be regular contributors to a project, with an interest in
> helping new people and about 4 hours a month for mentoring.  They do not
> have to be women; the program is just sponsored by WoO, we welcome all
> mentees and mentors.
> 
> These are the projects/areas where we especially need mentors:
>   Cinder
>   Containers
>   Documentation
>   Glance
>   Keystone
>   Murano
>   Neutron
>   Nova
>   Ops
>   Searchlight
>   Telemetry
>   TripleO
>   Trove
> 
> If you have any questions you can contact me, or ask on openstack-women
> where the mentoring committee hangs out.
> Thanks!
> Emily Hugenbruch
> IRC: ekhugen

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