Re: [openstack-dev] [all][api] POST /api-wg/news

2017-06-08 Thread Edward Leafe
On Jun 8, 2017, at 11:59 AM, Chris Dent wrote: > > The naming issue related to an optional field we want to add to the > microversion discovery document. Some projects wish to be able to signal that > they are intending to raise the minimum microversion at a point in the > future. The name for

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][api] POST /api-wg/news

2017-03-13 Thread Chris Dent
On Mon, 13 Mar 2017, Thierry Carrez wrote: At the recent Board+TC+UC meeting, the User Committee presented the API workgroup as a User Committee workgroup, based on data from: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Governance/Foundation/UserCommittee Yeah, that's been ongoing for a while and not som

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][api] POST /api-wg/news

2017-03-13 Thread Thierry Carrez
Ed Leafe wrote: > On Mar 9, 2017, at 9:30 PM, Everett Toews wrote: > >>> For those who don't know, Everett and I started the API-WG a few years ago, >> >> Umm...given this statement, I feel I _must_ provide some clarity. >> >> The API WG was started by myself, Jay Pipes, and Chris Yeoh. The b

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][api] POST /api-wg/news

2017-03-10 Thread Ed Leafe
On Mar 9, 2017, at 9:30 PM, Everett Toews wrote: >> For those who don't know, Everett and I started the API-WG a few years ago, > > Umm...given this statement, I feel I _must_ provide some clarity. > > The API WG was started by myself, Jay Pipes, and Chris Yeoh. The ball got > rolling in t

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][api] POST /api-wg/news

2017-03-09 Thread Everett Toews
> On Mar 9, 2017, at 11:52 AM, Ed Leafe wrote: > > Greetings OpenStack community, > > Today's meeting started on a heavyhearted note, as we hoisted our virtual > beers and gave a toast to Everett Toews, who recently had to step down from > his API-WG duties due to a job re-assignment. I'm pr

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][api] POST /api-wg/news

2017-02-07 Thread Everett Toews
On Feb 6, 2017, at 3:28 PM, Ken'ichi Ohmichi mailto:ken1ohmi...@gmail.com>> wrote: 2017-02-06 6:45 GMT-08:00 Brian Rosmaita mailto:rosmaita.foss...@gmail.com>>: On 2/6/17 5:51 AM, Jordan Pittier wrote: [super-enormous snip -- Chris, Ken, and Jordan make good points, I encourage you to read the

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][api] POST /api-wg/news

2017-02-07 Thread Ken'ichi Ohmichi
2017-02-07 10:31 GMT-08:00 Ed Leafe : > On Feb 6, 2017, at 3:28 PM, Ken'ichi Ohmichi wrote: >> >>> To summarize, my point is that we shouldn't be worried that this case is >>> going to set a precedent. It would be worrisome if it were going to set >>> a *bad* precedent, but when you look at the d

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][api] POST /api-wg/news

2017-02-07 Thread Ken'ichi Ohmichi
2017-02-07 6:56 GMT-08:00 Brian Rosmaita : > On 2/6/17 4:28 PM, Ken'ichi Ohmichi wrote: >> 2017-02-06 6:45 GMT-08:00 Brian Rosmaita : >>> On 2/6/17 5:51 AM, Jordan Pittier wrote: >>> [super-enormous snip -- Chris, Ken, and Jordan make good points, I >>> encourage you to read the entire thread; I ju

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][api] POST /api-wg/news

2017-02-07 Thread Ed Leafe
On Feb 6, 2017, at 3:28 PM, Ken'ichi Ohmichi wrote: > >> To summarize, my point is that we shouldn't be worried that this case is >> going to set a precedent. It would be worrisome if it were going to set >> a *bad* precedent, but when you look at the details of the situation, I >> don't think i

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][api] POST /api-wg/news

2017-02-07 Thread Brian Rosmaita
On 2/6/17 4:28 PM, Ken'ichi Ohmichi wrote: > 2017-02-06 6:45 GMT-08:00 Brian Rosmaita : >> On 2/6/17 5:51 AM, Jordan Pittier wrote: >> [super-enormous snip -- Chris, Ken, and Jordan make good points, I >> encourage you to read the entire thread; I just want to concentrate on >> one point] >>> >>> I

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][api] POST /api-wg/news

2017-02-06 Thread Ken'ichi Ohmichi
2017-02-06 6:45 GMT-08:00 Brian Rosmaita : > On 2/6/17 5:51 AM, Jordan Pittier wrote: > [super-enormous snip -- Chris, Ken, and Jordan make good points, I > encourage you to read the entire thread; I just want to concentrate on > one point] >> >> I would say we should make compromise, not solve dil

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][api] POST /api-wg/news

2017-02-06 Thread Ken'ichi Ohmichi
2017-02-06 2:51 GMT-08:00 Jordan Pittier : >> >> >> If we change the success status code (200 ->204) without any version >> >> bumps, OpenStack clouds return different status codes on the same API >> >> operations. >> >> That will break OpenStack interoperability and clients' APPs need to >> >> be

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][api] POST /api-wg/news

2017-02-06 Thread Monty Taylor
On 02/06/2017 08:45 AM, Brian Rosmaita wrote: > On 2/6/17 5:51 AM, Jordan Pittier wrote: > [super-enormous snip -- Chris, Ken, and Jordan make good points, I > encourage you to read the entire thread; I just want to concentrate on > one point] >> >> I would say we should make compromise, not solve

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][api] POST /api-wg/news

2017-02-06 Thread Brian Rosmaita
On 2/6/17 5:51 AM, Jordan Pittier wrote: [super-enormous snip -- Chris, Ken, and Jordan make good points, I encourage you to read the entire thread; I just want to concentrate on one point] > > I would say we should make compromise, not solve dilemma. I can live in a > world where we sometimes all

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][api] POST /api-wg/news

2017-02-06 Thread Jordan Pittier
On Fri, Feb 3, 2017 at 7:51 PM, Ken'ichi Ohmichi wrote: > 2017-02-03 9:56 GMT-08:00 Chris Dent : > > On Thu, 2 Feb 2017, Ken'ichi Ohmichi wrote: > >>> > >>> In today's meeting [0] after briefly covering old business we spent > >>> nearly > >>> 50 minutes going round in circles discussing the comp

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][api] POST /api-wg/news

2017-02-03 Thread Ken'ichi Ohmichi
2017-02-03 9:56 GMT-08:00 Chris Dent : > On Thu, 2 Feb 2017, Ken'ichi Ohmichi wrote: >>> >>> In today's meeting [0] after briefly covering old business we spent >>> nearly >>> 50 minutes going round in circles discussing the complex interactions of >>> expectations of API stability, the need to fix

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][api] POST /api-wg/news

2017-02-03 Thread Chris Dent
On Thu, 2 Feb 2017, Ken'ichi Ohmichi wrote: 2017-02-02 9:38 GMT-08:00 Chris Dent : Greetings OpenStack community, In today's meeting [0] after briefly covering old business we spent nearly 50 minutes going round in circles discussing the complex interactions of expectations of API stability, t

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][api] POST /api-wg/news

2017-02-02 Thread Ken'ichi Ohmichi
2017-02-02 9:38 GMT-08:00 Chris Dent : > > Greetings OpenStack community, > > In today's meeting [0] after briefly covering old business we spent nearly > 50 minutes going round in circles discussing the complex interactions of > expectations of API stability, the need to fix bugs and the costs and