Re: [openstack-dev] [all][rdo][kolla] Recommending the RDO tag for the mailing list

2016-12-20 Thread Steven Dake (stdake) 
Erno,

As David mentioned I had certainly not suggested moving all discussion from RDO 
list.  This is why I invited the Kolla community to join rdo-list if they so 
choose.  I think some heads up around “these are issues you may face” is 
warranted as David’s email [1] points out.  It is very difficult for everyone 
to be on all lists and pay attention to everything.

It is easy for OpenStack community members to set a [rdo] filter for low volume 
traffic like David’s heads up around RDO that lacked a tag for those that need 
that information.  Most of the kolla community who is deeply affected by this 
particular problem wasn’t aware of it and tracking it down in our mail clients 
is a little onerous without any tag at all.

Hope that clears things up ☺

Regards
-steve


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From: David Moreau Simard <d...@redhat.com>
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Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [all][rdo][kolla] Recommending the RDO tag for the 
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Hi Erno,

I believe Steven is referring to the recent post regarding issues with
CentOS 7.3 [1].
Arguably, that particular email was sent to openstack-dev,
openstack-operators as well as rdo-list.

I think it's okay to tag things relevant to RDO in openstack-dev but
that doesn't mean we're moving the discussions from rdo-list to
openstack-dev.

[1]: 
http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-December/108884.html

David Moreau Simard
Senior Software Engineer | Openstack RDO

dmsimard = [irc, github, twitter]


On Tue, Dec 20, 2016 at 5:19 AM, Erno Kuvaja <ekuv...@redhat.com> wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 19, 2016 at 2:21 PM, Steven Dake (stdake) <std...@cisco.com> 
wrote:
>> Folks,
>>
>>
>>
>> I am in favor of using a new tag called [rdo] such that RDO (or its
>> transitive dependencies) can be discussed and filtered by email clients 
as
>> it relates to development topics that affect the broader OpenStack
>> ecosystem.  As RDO is a community driven project which is very much 
related
>> to OpenStack, I think sharing a little bit of OpenStack list bandwidth 
isn’t
>> too much to ask.
>>
>>
>>
>> Further I’d invite the broader Kolla team to subscribe to the rdo-list,
>> which is a much more comprehensive coverage of RDO (both users and devs 
with
>> significant traffic) and filter rdo-list as you prefer:
>>
>>
>>
>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/rdo-list
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> -steve
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 
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> Hi Steven,
>
> I'm not sure I understand the intention fully here. openstack-dev is
> super gluttered already as it is, can you give an example what would
> be appropriate discussion in openstack-dev [rdo] rather than having
> that discussion on rdo-project mailing list?
>
> My initial thought is that I'd very much would not like to open the
> openstack-dev to any 3rd party projects (yes I'm fully aware that rdo
> is very much related to OpenStack and my employer, it does not make it
> any less 3rd party to OS development) to discuss their matters. So my
> initial reaction would be "Please no".
>
> - Erno 'jokke' Kuvaja
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Re: [openstack-dev] [all][rdo][kolla] Recommending the RDO tag for the mailing list

2016-12-20 Thread David Moreau Simard 
Hi Erno,

I believe Steven is referring to the recent post regarding issues with
CentOS 7.3 [1].
Arguably, that particular email was sent to openstack-dev,
openstack-operators as well as rdo-list.

I think it's okay to tag things relevant to RDO in openstack-dev but
that doesn't mean we're moving the discussions from rdo-list to
openstack-dev.

[1]: 
http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-December/108884.html

David Moreau Simard
Senior Software Engineer | Openstack RDO

dmsimard = [irc, github, twitter]


On Tue, Dec 20, 2016 at 5:19 AM, Erno Kuvaja  wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 19, 2016 at 2:21 PM, Steven Dake (stdake)  
> wrote:
>> Folks,
>>
>>
>>
>> I am in favor of using a new tag called [rdo] such that RDO (or its
>> transitive dependencies) can be discussed and filtered by email clients as
>> it relates to development topics that affect the broader OpenStack
>> ecosystem.  As RDO is a community driven project which is very much related
>> to OpenStack, I think sharing a little bit of OpenStack list bandwidth isn’t
>> too much to ask.
>>
>>
>>
>> Further I’d invite the broader Kolla team to subscribe to the rdo-list,
>> which is a much more comprehensive coverage of RDO (both users and devs with
>> significant traffic) and filter rdo-list as you prefer:
>>
>>
>>
>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/rdo-list
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> -steve
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>
> Hi Steven,
>
> I'm not sure I understand the intention fully here. openstack-dev is
> super gluttered already as it is, can you give an example what would
> be appropriate discussion in openstack-dev [rdo] rather than having
> that discussion on rdo-project mailing list?
>
> My initial thought is that I'd very much would not like to open the
> openstack-dev to any 3rd party projects (yes I'm fully aware that rdo
> is very much related to OpenStack and my employer, it does not make it
> any less 3rd party to OS development) to discuss their matters. So my
> initial reaction would be "Please no".
>
> - Erno 'jokke' Kuvaja
>
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Re: [openstack-dev] [all][rdo][kolla] Recommending the RDO tag for the mailing list

2016-12-20 Thread Erno Kuvaja 
On Mon, Dec 19, 2016 at 2:21 PM, Steven Dake (stdake)  wrote:
> Folks,
>
>
>
> I am in favor of using a new tag called [rdo] such that RDO (or its
> transitive dependencies) can be discussed and filtered by email clients as
> it relates to development topics that affect the broader OpenStack
> ecosystem.  As RDO is a community driven project which is very much related
> to OpenStack, I think sharing a little bit of OpenStack list bandwidth isn’t
> too much to ask.
>
>
>
> Further I’d invite the broader Kolla team to subscribe to the rdo-list,
> which is a much more comprehensive coverage of RDO (both users and devs with
> significant traffic) and filter rdo-list as you prefer:
>
>
>
> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/rdo-list
>
>
>
> Thanks!
>
> -steve
>
>
>
>
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Hi Steven,

I'm not sure I understand the intention fully here. openstack-dev is
super gluttered already as it is, can you give an example what would
be appropriate discussion in openstack-dev [rdo] rather than having
that discussion on rdo-project mailing list?

My initial thought is that I'd very much would not like to open the
openstack-dev to any 3rd party projects (yes I'm fully aware that rdo
is very much related to OpenStack and my employer, it does not make it
any less 3rd party to OS development) to discuss their matters. So my
initial reaction would be "Please no".

- Erno 'jokke' Kuvaja

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Re: [openstack-dev] [all][rdo][kolla] Recommending the RDO tag for the mailing list

2016-12-19 Thread Jason Rist 
On 12/19/2016 07:21 AM, Steven Dake (stdake) wrote:
> Folks,
>
> I am in favor of using a new tag called [rdo] such that RDO (or its 
> transitive dependencies) can be discussed and filtered by email clients as it 
> relates to development topics that affect the broader OpenStack ecosystem.  
> As RDO is a community driven project which is very much related to OpenStack, 
> I think sharing a little bit of OpenStack list bandwidth isn’t too much to 
> ask.
>
> Further I’d invite the broader Kolla team to subscribe to the rdo-list, which 
> is a much more comprehensive coverage of RDO (both users and devs with 
> significant traffic) and filter rdo-list as you prefer:
>
> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/rdo-list
>
> Thanks!
> -steve
>
>
>
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+1

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