Re: [openstack-dev] [all][tc] Clarifying testing recommendation for interop programs

2018-01-24 Thread Ghanshyam Mann
On Fri, Jan 19, 2018 at 4:23 PM, Graham Hayes wrote: > > > On 19/01/18 03:28, Ghanshyam Mann wrote: >> On Thu, Jan 11, 2018 at 10:06 PM, Colleen Murphy wrote: >>> Hi everyone, >>> >>> We have governance review under debate[1] that we need the community's help

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][tc] Clarifying testing recommendation for interop programs

2018-01-22 Thread Jeremy Stanley
On 2018-01-22 15:04:31 + (+), Graham Hayes wrote: > On 19/01/18 16:27, Andrea Frittoli wrote: [...] > > it is possible to mark tests so that team may require a +1 from > > interop/qa when specific tests are modified. > > Is there? AFAIK gerrit does not do per file path permissions, so >

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][tc] Clarifying testing recommendation for interop programs

2018-01-22 Thread Andrea Frittoli
On Mon, Jan 22, 2018 at 3:05 PM Graham Hayes wrote: > > > On 19/01/18 16:27, Andrea Frittoli wrote: > > > > Thanks for the summary! > > > > To be honest I don't see why this decision has to be difficult to take. > > I think the confusion comes from one thing being decided already,

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][tc] Clarifying testing recommendation for interop programs

2018-01-22 Thread Graham Hayes
On 19/01/18 16:27, Andrea Frittoli wrote: > > Thanks for the summary! > > To be honest I don't see why this decision has to be difficult to take. I think the confusion comes from one thing being decided already, and now conflicting direction is being given to teams, without anyone updating

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][tc] Clarifying testing recommendation for interop programs

2018-01-19 Thread Andrea Frittoli
On Thu, Jan 11, 2018 at 4:36 PM Colleen Murphy wrote: > Hi everyone, > > We have governance review under debate[1] that we need the community's > help on. > The debate is over what recommendation the TC should make to the Interop > team > on where the tests it uses for the

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][tc] Clarifying testing recommendation for interop programs

2018-01-19 Thread Andrea Frittoli
On Thu, Jan 18, 2018 at 3:33 PM Graham Hayes wrote: > > > On 11/01/18 16:36, Colleen Murphy wrote: > > Hi everyone, > > > > We have governance review under debate[1] that we need the community's > help on. > > The debate is over what recommendation the TC should make to the Interop

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][tc] Clarifying testing recommendation for interop programs

2018-01-19 Thread Andrea Frittoli
On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 12:59 PM Erno Kuvaja wrote: > On Thu, Jan 11, 2018 at 4:36 PM, Colleen Murphy > wrote: > > Hi everyone, > > > > We have governance review under debate[1] that we need the community's > help on. > > The debate is over what

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][tc] Clarifying testing recommendation for interop programs

2018-01-19 Thread Andrea Frittoli
On Fri, Jan 12, 2018 at 9:50 AM Luigi Toscano wrote: > On Thursday, 11 January 2018 23:52:00 CET Matt Riedemann wrote: > > On 1/11/2018 10:36 AM, Colleen Murphy wrote: > > > 1) All trademark-related tests should go in the tempest repo, in > > > accordance > > > > > >

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][tc] Clarifying testing recommendation for interop programs

2018-01-19 Thread Thierry Carrez
Colleen Murphy wrote: > On Fri, Jan 19, 2018 at 1:52 AM, Ken'ichi Ohmichi > wrote: >> 2018-01-18 12:36 GMT-08:00 Doug Hellmann : >>> >>> I feel pretty sure that was discussed in a TC meeting, but I can't >>> find that. I do find Matt and Ken'ichi

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][tc] Clarifying testing recommendation for interop programs

2018-01-19 Thread Graham Hayes
On 19/01/18 00:52, Ken'ichi Ohmichi wrote: > 2018-01-18 12:36 GMT-08:00 Doug Hellmann : >> Excerpts from Doug Hellmann's message of 2018-01-18 15:21:12 -0500: >>> Excerpts from Graham Hayes's message of 2018-01-18 19:25:02 +: On 18/01/18 18:52, Doug Hellmann

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][tc] Clarifying testing recommendation for interop programs

2018-01-19 Thread Graham Hayes
On 19/01/18 03:28, Ghanshyam Mann wrote: > On Thu, Jan 11, 2018 at 10:06 PM, Colleen Murphy wrote: >> Hi everyone, >> >> We have governance review under debate[1] that we need the community's help >> on. >> The debate is over what recommendation the TC should make to the

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][tc] Clarifying testing recommendation for interop programs

2018-01-19 Thread Graham Hayes
On 19/01/18 04:10, Ghanshyam Mann wrote: > On Thu, Jan 18, 2018 at 11:22 PM, Graham Hayes wrote: >> On 18/01/18 16:25, Doug Hellmann wrote: >>> Excerpts from Graham Hayes's message of 2018-01-18 15:33:12 +: >> >> >> >>> >>> In the past the QA team agreed to accept

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][tc] Clarifying testing recommendation for interop programs

2018-01-19 Thread Colleen Murphy
On Fri, Jan 19, 2018 at 1:52 AM, Ken'ichi Ohmichi wrote: > 2018-01-18 12:36 GMT-08:00 Doug Hellmann : >> >> I feel pretty sure that was discussed in a TC meeting, but I can't >> find that. I do find Matt and Ken'ichi voting +1 on the resolution >>

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][tc] Clarifying testing recommendation for interop programs

2018-01-18 Thread Ghanshyam Mann
On Thu, Jan 18, 2018 at 11:22 PM, Graham Hayes wrote: > On 18/01/18 16:25, Doug Hellmann wrote: >> Excerpts from Graham Hayes's message of 2018-01-18 15:33:12 +: > > > >> >> In the past the QA team agreed to accept trademark-related tests from >> all projects in the tempest

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][tc] Clarifying testing recommendation for interop programs

2018-01-18 Thread Ghanshyam Mann
On Thu, Jan 11, 2018 at 10:06 PM, Colleen Murphy wrote: > Hi everyone, > > We have governance review under debate[1] that we need the community's help > on. > The debate is over what recommendation the TC should make to the Interop team > on where the tests it uses for the

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][tc] Clarifying testing recommendation for interop programs

2018-01-18 Thread Ken'ichi Ohmichi
2018-01-18 12:36 GMT-08:00 Doug Hellmann : > Excerpts from Doug Hellmann's message of 2018-01-18 15:21:12 -0500: >> Excerpts from Graham Hayes's message of 2018-01-18 19:25:02 +: >> > >> > On 18/01/18 18:52, Doug Hellmann wrote: >> > > Excerpts from Graham Hayes's

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][tc] Clarifying testing recommendation for interop programs

2018-01-18 Thread Doug Hellmann
Excerpts from Doug Hellmann's message of 2018-01-18 15:21:12 -0500: > Excerpts from Graham Hayes's message of 2018-01-18 19:25:02 +: > > > > On 18/01/18 18:52, Doug Hellmann wrote: > > > Excerpts from Graham Hayes's message of 2018-01-18 17:52:39 +: > > >> On 18/01/18 16:25, Doug Hellmann

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][tc] Clarifying testing recommendation for interop programs

2018-01-18 Thread Doug Hellmann
Excerpts from Graham Hayes's message of 2018-01-18 19:25:02 +: > > On 18/01/18 18:52, Doug Hellmann wrote: > > Excerpts from Graham Hayes's message of 2018-01-18 17:52:39 +: > >> On 18/01/18 16:25, Doug Hellmann wrote: > >>> Excerpts from Graham Hayes's message of 2018-01-18 15:33:12

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][tc] Clarifying testing recommendation for interop programs

2018-01-18 Thread Graham Hayes
On 18/01/18 18:52, Doug Hellmann wrote: > Excerpts from Graham Hayes's message of 2018-01-18 17:52:39 +: >> On 18/01/18 16:25, Doug Hellmann wrote: >>> Excerpts from Graham Hayes's message of 2018-01-18 15:33:12 +: >> >> >> >>> >>> In the past the QA team agreed to accept

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][tc] Clarifying testing recommendation for interop programs

2018-01-18 Thread Doug Hellmann
Excerpts from Graham Hayes's message of 2018-01-18 17:52:39 +: > On 18/01/18 16:25, Doug Hellmann wrote: > > Excerpts from Graham Hayes's message of 2018-01-18 15:33:12 +: > > > > > > > In the past the QA team agreed to accept trademark-related tests from > > all projects in the

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][tc] Clarifying testing recommendation for interop programs

2018-01-18 Thread Graham Hayes
On 18/01/18 16:25, Doug Hellmann wrote: > Excerpts from Graham Hayes's message of 2018-01-18 15:33:12 +: > > In the past the QA team agreed to accept trademark-related tests from > all projects in the tempest repo. Has that changed? > There has not been an explict rejection but in all

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][tc] Clarifying testing recommendation for interop programs

2018-01-18 Thread Doug Hellmann
Excerpts from Graham Hayes's message of 2018-01-18 15:33:12 +: > I had hoped for more of a discussion on this before I jumped back into > this debate - but it seams to be stalled still, so here it goes. > > I proposed this initially as we were unclear on where the tests should > go - we had

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][tc] Clarifying testing recommendation for interop programs

2018-01-18 Thread Graham Hayes
On 11/01/18 16:36, Colleen Murphy wrote: > Hi everyone, > > We have governance review under debate[1] that we need the community's help > on. > The debate is over what recommendation the TC should make to the Interop team > on where the tests it uses for the OpenStack trademark program should

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][tc] Clarifying testing recommendation for interop programs

2018-01-18 Thread Graham Hayes
On 12/01/18 09:49, Luigi Toscano wrote: > On Thursday, 11 January 2018 23:52:00 CET Matt Riedemann wrote: >> On 1/11/2018 10:36 AM, Colleen Murphy wrote: >>> 1) All trademark-related tests should go in the tempest repo, in >>> accordance >>> >>> with the original resolution. This would mean

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][tc] Clarifying testing recommendation for interop programs

2018-01-15 Thread Doug Hellmann
Excerpts from Erno Kuvaja's message of 2018-01-15 12:59:44 +: > I think the worst case scenario is that we scrape together what ever > we can just to have something to say that we test it and not have > consistency nor clear responsibility of who, what and how. > (Unfortunately I think this

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][tc] Clarifying testing recommendation for interop programs

2018-01-15 Thread Erno Kuvaja
On Thu, Jan 11, 2018 at 4:36 PM, Colleen Murphy wrote: > Hi everyone, > > We have governance review under debate[1] that we need the community's help > on. > The debate is over what recommendation the TC should make to the Interop team > on where the tests it uses for the

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][tc] Clarifying testing recommendation for interop programs

2018-01-12 Thread Doug Hellmann
Excerpts from Luigi Toscano's message of 2018-01-12 10:49:55 +0100: > On Thursday, 11 January 2018 23:52:00 CET Matt Riedemann wrote: > > On 1/11/2018 10:36 AM, Colleen Murphy wrote: > > > 1) All trademark-related tests should go in the tempest repo, in > > > accordance > > > > > > with the

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][tc] Clarifying testing recommendation for interop programs

2018-01-12 Thread Luigi Toscano
On Thursday, 11 January 2018 23:52:00 CET Matt Riedemann wrote: > On 1/11/2018 10:36 AM, Colleen Murphy wrote: > > 1) All trademark-related tests should go in the tempest repo, in > > accordance > > > > with the original resolution. This would mean that even projects that > > have > >

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][tc] Clarifying testing recommendation for interop programs

2018-01-11 Thread Matt Riedemann
On 1/11/2018 10:36 AM, Colleen Murphy wrote: 1) All trademark-related tests should go in the tempest repo, in accordance with the original resolution. This would mean that even projects that have never had tests in tempest would now have to add at least some of their black-box tests