Thank you very much
On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 1:06 PM, Angus Salkeld asalk...@mirantis.com
wrote:
On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 7:00 PM, Dmitry mey...@gmail.com wrote:
I have another question, is it possible to get the stack name in the hot
script?
E.g.
params:
$stack_name:
I have another question, is it possible to get the stack name in the hot
script?
E.g.
params:
$stack_name: {get_global_variable: $stack.name}
On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 3:53 AM, Qiming Teng teng...@linux.vnet.ibm.com
wrote:
On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 07:44:25PM +0200, Dmitry wrote:
thanks,
On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 7:00 PM, Dmitry mey...@gmail.com wrote:
I have another question, is it possible to get the stack name in the hot
script?
E.g.
params:
$stack_name: {get_global_variable: $stack.name}
See:
I'm using OS::Nova::Server, the versions is 2013-05-23
On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 5:10 PM, Qiming Teng teng...@linux.vnet.ibm.com
wrote:
On Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 05:41:33PM +0200, Dmitry wrote:
Hello,
I need to receive instance id as part of the instance installation
script.
Something like:
On Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 05:41:33PM +0200, Dmitry wrote:
Hello,
I need to receive instance id as part of the instance installation script.
Something like:
params:
$current_id: {get_param: $this.id}
Please be specific about the 'installation script', i.e. which resource
type and
On 25/01/15 10:41, Dmitry wrote:
Hello,
I need to receive instance id as part of the instance installation script.
Something like:
params:
$current_id: {get_param: $this.id http://this.id}
I have no idea what this is supposed to mean, sorry.
Is it possible?
The get_resource
On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 07:44:25PM +0200, Dmitry wrote:
thanks, exactly what I was looking for:
curl http://169.254.169.254/1.0/meta-data/instance-id
or, /var/lib/cloud/data/instance-id, if cloud-init is there.
Regards,
Qiming
On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 7:31 PM, Zane Bitter zbit...@redhat.com
On 11/21/2013 08:48 PM, Thomas Spatzier wrote:
Excerpts from Steve Baker's message on 21.11.2013 00:00:47:
From: Steve Baker sba...@redhat.com
To: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org,
Date: 21.11.2013 00:04
Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] HOT software configuration
refined after design
Thomas Spatzier thomas.spatz...@de.ibm.com wrote on 11/21/2013 02:48:14
AM:
...
Now thinking more about update scenarios (which we can leave for an
iteration after the initial deployment is working),
I recommend thinking about UPDATE from the start. We should have an
implementation in which
Steve Baker sba...@redhat.com wrote on 21.11.2013 21:19:07:
From: Steve Baker sba...@redhat.com
To: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org,
Date: 21.11.2013 21:25
Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] HOT software configuration
refined after design summit discussions
On 11/21/2013 08:48 PM, Thomas
Excerpts from Thomas Spatzier's message of 2013-11-19 23:35:40 -0800:
Excerpts from Steve Baker's message on 19.11.2013 21:40:54:
From: Steve Baker sba...@redhat.com
To: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org,
Date: 19.11.2013 21:43
Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] HOT software
: [openstack-dev] [Heat] HOT software configuration
refined after design summit discussions
snip
I think there needs to a CM tool specific agent delivered to the server
which os-collect-config invokes. This agent will transform the config
data (input values, CM script, CM specific specialness) to a CM
Steve Baker sba...@redhat.com wrote on 20.11.2013 09:51:34:
From: Steve Baker sba...@redhat.com
To: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org,
Date: 20.11.2013 09:55
Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] HOT software configuration
refined after design summit discussions
On 11/20/2013 09:29 PM, Clint
Steve Baker sba...@redhat.com wrote on 11/19/2013 03:40:54 PM:
...
How to define and deliver this agent is the challenge. Some options are:
1) install it as part of the image customization/bootstrapping (golden
images or cloud-init)
2) define a (mustache?) template in the SoftwareConfig which
Clint Byrum cl...@fewbar.com wrote on 11/19/2013 04:28:31 PM:
From: Clint Byrum cl...@fewbar.com
To: openstack-dev openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org,
Date: 11/19/2013 04:30 PM
Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] HOT software configuration
refined after design summit discussions
Excerpts
On 11/21/2013 10:46 AM, Mike Spreitzer wrote:
Clint Byrum cl...@fewbar.com wrote on 11/19/2013 04:28:31 PM:
From: Clint Byrum cl...@fewbar.com
To: openstack-dev openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org,
Date: 11/19/2013 04:30 PM
Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] HOT software configuration
Excerpts from Mike Spreitzer's message of 2013-11-20 13:46:25 -0800:
Clint Byrum cl...@fewbar.com wrote on 11/19/2013 04:28:31 PM:
From: Clint Byrum cl...@fewbar.com
To: openstack-dev openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org,
Date: 11/19/2013 04:30 PM
Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] HOT
Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] HOT software configuration
refined after design summit discussions
Excerpts from Steve Baker's message of 2013-11-19 13:06:21 -0800:
On 11/20/2013 09:50 AM, Clint Byrum wrote:
Excerpts from Steve Baker's message of 2013-11-18 12:52:04 -0800:
Regarding
Regarding my previous email:
Steve Baker sba...@redhat.com wrote on 11/19/2013 03:40:54 PM:
...
How to define and deliver this agent is the challenge. Some options
are:
1) install it as part of the image customization/bootstrapping (golden
images or cloud-init)
2) define a
Excerpts from Mike Spreitzer's message of 2013-11-20 15:16:45 -0800:
Clint Byrum cl...@fewbar.com wrote on 11/20/2013 05:41:16 PM:
Autoscaling doesn't really fly with stateful services IMO.
I presume you're concerned about the auto part, not the scaling. Even
a stateful group is
Excerpts from Steve Baker's message on 21.11.2013 00:00:47:
From: Steve Baker sba...@redhat.com
To: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org,
Date: 21.11.2013 00:04
Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] HOT software configuration
refined after design summit discussions
On 11/21/2013 11:41 AM, Clint
On 11/19/2013 08:37 PM, Thomas Spatzier wrote:
Steve Baker sba...@redhat.com wrote on 18.11.2013 21:52:04:
From: Steve Baker sba...@redhat.com
To: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org,
Date: 18.11.2013 21:54
Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] HOT software configuration
refined after design
On 11/20/2013 09:50 AM, Clint Byrum wrote:
Excerpts from Steve Baker's message of 2013-11-18 12:52:04 -0800:
Regarding apply_config/remove_config, if a SoftwareApplier resource is
deleted it should trigger any remove_config and wait for the server to
acknowledge when that is complete. This
Excerpts from Steve Baker's message of 2013-11-19 13:06:21 -0800:
On 11/20/2013 09:50 AM, Clint Byrum wrote:
Excerpts from Steve Baker's message of 2013-11-18 12:52:04 -0800:
Regarding apply_config/remove_config, if a SoftwareApplier resource is
deleted it should trigger any remove_config
Hi all,
I have reworked the wiki page [1] I created last week to reflect
discussions we had on the mail list and in IRC. From ML discussions last
week it looked like we were all basically on the same page (with some
details to be worked out), and I hope the new draft eliminates some
confusion
Steve Baker sba...@redhat.com wrote on 18.11.2013 21:52:04:
From: Steve Baker sba...@redhat.com
To: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org,
Date: 18.11.2013 21:54
Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] HOT software configuration
refined after design summit discussions
On 11/19/2013 02:22 AM, Thomas
It seems to me we have been discussing a proposal whose write-up
intertwines two ideas: (1) making software components look like resources,
and (2) using nested stacks and environments to achieve the pattern of
definitions and uses. The ideas are separable, and I think the discussion
has sort
Excerpts form Clint Byrum's message on 12.11.2013 19:32:50:
From: Clint Byrum cl...@fewbar.com
To: openstack-dev openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org,
Date: 12.11.2013 19:35
Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] HOT software configuration
refined after design summit discussions
Excerpts from
Georgy Okrokvertskhov gokrokvertsk...@mirantis.com wrote on 12.11.2013
21:27:13:
From: Georgy Okrokvertskhov gokrokvertsk...@mirantis.com
To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)
openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org,
Date: 12.11.2013 21:29
Subject: Re: [openstack-dev
Excerpts from Thomas Spatzier's message of 2013-11-13 00:28:59 -0800:
Angus Salkeld asalk...@redhat.com wrote on 13.11.2013 00:22:44:
From: Angus Salkeld asalk...@redhat.com
To: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org,
Date: 13.11.2013 00:25
Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] HOT software
Zane Bitter zbit...@redhat.com wrote on 13.11.2013 18:11:18:
From: Zane Bitter zbit...@redhat.com
To: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org,
Date: 13.11.2013 18:14
Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] HOT software configuration
refined after design summit discussions
On 11/11/13 17:57, Thomas
On 13/11/13 18:29, Thomas Spatzier wrote:
It also doesn't support a list, but I think we can and should fix that
in HOT.
Doesn't DependsOn already support lists? I quickly checked the code and it
seems it does:
https://github.com/openstack/heat/blob/master/heat/engine/resource.py#L288
Oh,
On 11/14/2013 06:11 AM, Zane Bitter wrote:
On 11/11/13 17:57, Thomas Spatzier wrote:
Hi all,
I have just posted the following wiki page to reflect a refined proposal
for HOT software configuration based on discussions at the design summit
last week. Angus also put a sample up in an etherpad
On 11/14/2013 06:02 AM, Zane Bitter wrote:
On 13/11/13 01:34, Clint Byrum wrote:
Excerpts from Angus Salkeld's message of 2013-11-12 15:22:44 -0800:
IMO is should just be a template/formatted file.
I'd prefer that we have the ability to pull in a chunk of in-line
template
as well. Perhaps
On 12/11/13 14:59, Alex Heneveld wrote:
One minor suggestion is to consider using a special character (eg $)
rather than reserved keywords. As I understand it the keywords are only
interpreted when they exactly match the value of a key in a map, so it
is already unlikely to be problematic.
Excerpts from Thomas Spatzier's message of 2013-11-11 08:57:58 -0800:
Hi all,
I have just posted the following wiki page to reflect a refined proposal
for HOT software configuration based on discussions at the design summit
last week. Angus also put a sample up in an etherpad last week,
On 12/11/13 10:32 -0800, Clint Byrum wrote:
Excerpts from Thomas Spatzier's message of 2013-11-11 08:57:58 -0800:
Hi all,
I have just posted the following wiki page to reflect a refined proposal
for HOT software configuration based on discussions at the design summit
last week. Angus also put
On 10/26/2013 05:25 AM, Clint Byrum wrote:
Excerpts from Angus Salkeld's message of 2013-10-24 18:48:16 -0700:
On 24/10/13 11:54 +0200, Patrick Petit wrote:
Hi Clint,
Thank you! I have few replies/questions in-line.
Cheers,
Patrick
On 10/23/13 8:36 PM, Clint Byrum wrote:
I think this fits
In-line comments.
On 10/28/13 5:43 PM, Steve Baker sba...@redhat.com wrote:
On 10/26/2013 05:25 AM, Clint Byrum wrote:
Excerpts from Angus Salkeld's message of 2013-10-24 18:48:16 -0700:
On 24/10/13 11:54 +0200, Patrick Petit wrote:
Hi Clint,
Thank you! I have few replies/questions in-line.
Excerpts from Steve Baker's message of 2013-10-28 15:43:02 -0700:
On 10/26/2013 05:25 AM, Clint Byrum wrote:
Excerpts from Angus Salkeld's message of 2013-10-24 18:48:16 -0700:
On 24/10/13 11:54 +0200, Patrick Petit wrote:
Hi Clint,
Thank you! I have few replies/questions in-line.
On 28/10/13 16:26 -0700, Clint Byrum wrote:
[snip]
My components proposals had no hosted_on, but I've been thinking about
the implications of implementing software configuration as resources,
and one of the natural consequences might be that hosted_on is the best
way of establishing the
...@rackspace.com wrote on 25.10.2013 02:23:55:
From: Keith Bray keith.b...@rackspace.com
To: OpenStack Development Mailing List
openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org,
Date: 25.10.2013 02:31
Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] HOT Software configuration proposal
Hi Thomas, here's my opinion: Heat and Solum
Excerpts from Angus Salkeld's message of 2013-10-24 18:48:16 -0700:
On 24/10/13 11:54 +0200, Patrick Petit wrote:
Hi Clint,
Thank you! I have few replies/questions in-line.
Cheers,
Patrick
On 10/23/13 8:36 PM, Clint Byrum wrote:
I think this fits into something that I want for optimizing
On 25/10/13 09:25 -0700, Clint Byrum wrote:
Excerpts from Angus Salkeld's message of 2013-10-24 18:48:16 -0700:
On 24/10/13 11:54 +0200, Patrick Petit wrote:
Hi Clint,
Thank you! I have few replies/questions in-line.
Cheers
Patrick
On 10/23/13 8:36 PM, Clint Byrum wrote:
I think this fits into
Hi Clint,
Thank you! I have few replies/questions in-line.
Cheers,
Patrick
On 10/23/13 8:36 PM, Clint Byrum wrote:
Excerpts from Patrick Petit's message of 2013-10-23 10:58:22 -0700:
Dear Steve and All,
If I may add up on this already busy thread to share our experience with
using Heat in
Sorry, I clicked the 'send' button too quickly.
On 10/24/13 11:54 AM, Patrick Petit wrote:
Hi Clint,
Thank you! I have few replies/questions in-line.
Cheers,
Patrick
On 10/23/13 8:36 PM, Clint Byrum wrote:
Excerpts from Patrick Petit's message of 2013-10-23 10:58:22 -0700:
Dear Steve and All,
Petit patrick.pe...@bull.net
To: OpenStack Development Mailing List
openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org,
Date: 24.10.2013 12:18
Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] HOT Software configuration proposal
Sorry, I clicked the 'send' button too quickly.
On 10/24/13 11:54 AM, Patrick Petit wrote:
Hi
openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org,
Date: 24.10.2013 12:18
Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] HOT Software configuration proposal
Sorry, I clicked the 'send' button too quickly.
On 10/24/13 11:54 AM, Patrick Petit wrote:
Hi Clint,
Thank you! I have few replies/questions in-line.
Cheers
On 24/10/13 11:54 +0200, Patrick Petit wrote:
Hi Clint,
Thank you! I have few replies/questions in-line.
Cheers,
Patrick
On 10/23/13 8:36 PM, Clint Byrum wrote:
Excerpts from Patrick Petit's message of 2013-10-23 10:58:22 -0700:
Dear Steve and All,
If I may add up on this already busy thread
Clint Byrum cl...@fewbar.com wrote on 23.10.2013 00:28:17:
From: Clint Byrum cl...@fewbar.com
To: openstack-dev openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org,
Date: 23.10.2013 00:30
Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] HOT Software configuration proposal
Excerpts from Georgy Okrokvertskhov's message
Dear Steve and All,
If I may add up on this already busy thread to share our experience with
using Heat in large and complex software deployments.
I work on a project which precisely provides additional value at the
articulation point between resource orchestration automation and
Excerpts from Patrick Petit's message of 2013-10-23 10:58:22 -0700:
Dear Steve and All,
If I may add up on this already busy thread to share our experience with
using Heat in large and complex software deployments.
Thanks for sharing Patrick, I have a few replies in-line.
I work on a
Hi Patric,
Thank you for such great post! This is very close to the vision I've tried
to propose earlier on software orchestration thread and I'm glad other
people concern about the same issues. However the problem the problem with
PaaS-like approached it that they currently on a little bit
Hi,
Looking through the thread I mentioned couple definitions of software
orchestration. I would like to summarize definitions before we go to deep
technical discussion about actual implementation.
There are two major areas and approaches covered by software orchestration:
*Software component
Steve Baker sba...@redhat.com wrote on 21.10.2013 23:02:47:
From: Steve Baker sba...@redhat.com
To: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org,
Date: 21.10.2013 23:06
Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] HOT Software configuration proposal
On 10/22/2013 08:45 AM, Mike Spreitzer wrote:
Steve Baker
On 22/10/13 09:15, Thomas Spatzier wrote:
BTW, the convention of properties being input and attributes being output,
i.e. that subtle distinction between properties and attributes is not
really intuitive, at least not to me as non-native speaker, because I used
to use both words as synonyms.
Zane Bitter zbit...@redhat.com wrote on 10/22/2013 09:24:28 AM:
On 22/10/13 09:15, Thomas Spatzier wrote:
BTW, the convention of properties being input and attributes being
output,
i.e. that subtle distinction between properties and attributes is not
really intuitive, at least not to me
Zane Bitter zbit...@redhat.com wrote on 22.10.2013 15:24:28:
From: Zane Bitter zbit...@redhat.com
To: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org,
Date: 22.10.2013 15:27
Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] HOT Software configuration proposal
On 22/10/13 09:15, Thomas Spatzier wrote:
BTW
On 22/10/13 16:35, Thomas Spatzier wrote:
Zane Bitter zbit...@redhat.com wrote on 22.10.2013 15:24:28:
From: Zane Bitter zbit...@redhat.com
To: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org,
Date: 22.10.2013 15:27
Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] HOT Software configuration proposal
On 22/10/13 09:15
Zane Bitter zbit...@redhat.com wrote on 22.10.2013 17:23:52:
From: Zane Bitter zbit...@redhat.com
To: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org,
Date: 22.10.2013 17:26
Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] HOT Software configuration proposal
On 22/10/13 16:35, Thomas Spatzier wrote:
Zane Bitter zbit
] [Heat] HOT Software configuration proposal
On 22/10/13 16:35, Thomas Spatzier wrote:
Zane Bitter zbit...@redhat.com wrote on 22.10.2013 15:24:28:
From: Zane Bitter zbit...@redhat.com
To: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org,
Date: 22.10.2013 15:27
Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] HOT
: [openstack-dev] [Heat] HOT Software configuration proposal
On 22/10/13 16:35, Thomas Spatzier wrote:
Zane Bitter zbit...@redhat.com wrote on 22.10.2013 15:24:28:
From: Zane Bitter zbit...@redhat.com
To: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org,
Date: 22.10.2013 15:27
Subject: Re
Stan Lagun sla...@mirantis.com wrote on 22.10.2013 19:02:38:
From: Stan Lagun sla...@mirantis.com
To: OpenStack Development Mailing List
openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org,
Date: 22.10.2013 19:06
Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] HOT Software configuration proposal
Hello,
I've been
on 22.10.2013
20:01:19:
From: Georgy Okrokvertskhov gokrokvertsk...@mirantis.com
To: OpenStack Development Mailing List
openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org,
Date: 22.10.2013 20:05
Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] HOT Software configuration proposal
Hi,
I would agree with Stan that we
Excerpts from Georgy Okrokvertskhov's message of 2013-10-22 13:32:40 -0700:
Hi Thomas,
I agree with you on semantics part. At the same time I see a potential
question which might appear - if semantics is limited by few states visible
for Heat engine, then who actually does software
Sounds like taskflow could be that program (+1 from me, ha)?
Mistral to me is a nice authenticated REST api + other goodies ontop of
something that reliably executes workflows.
But then what I described is also the majority of what openstack does
(authenticated REST api + other goodies ontop of
Hi Clint,
Thank you for the detailed analysis.
I'm not sure I know what software orchestration is, but I will take a
stab at a succinct definition:
Coordination of software configuration across multiple hosts.
Having this definition of software orchestration what will Heat
software
Hi Joshua,
Sounds like taskflow could be that program (+1 from me, ha)?
Mistral to me is a nice authenticated REST api + other goodies ontop of
something that reliably executes workflows.
I would say that Mistral is a way to do this. My arguments are the
following:
1. Mistral decouples code.
Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] HOT Software configuration proposal
Hi Joshua,
Sounds like taskflow could be that program (+1 from me, ha)?
Mistral to me is a nice authenticated REST api + other goodies ontop of
something that reliably executes workflows.
I would say that Mistral is a way to do
@lists.openstack.org
Date: Tuesday, October 22, 2013 4:53 PM
To: OpenStack Development Mailing List openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org
Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] HOT Software configuration proposal
Hi Joshua,
Sounds like taskflow could be that program (+1 from me, ha)?
Mistral to me
experience with this problem.
cheers,
Zane.
John Davidge
jodav...@cisco.com
-- Forwarded message --
From: Thomas Spatzier thomas.spatz...@de.ibm.com
Date: Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 12:40 AM
Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] HOT Software orchestration
proposal for workflows
Steve Baker sba...@redhat.com wrote on 10/15/2013 06:48:53 PM:
I've just written some proposals to address Heat's HOT software
configuration needs, and I'd like to use this thread to get some
feedback:
https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Heat/Blueprints/hot-software-config
On 21/10/13 15:45 -0400, Mike Spreitzer wrote:
Steve Baker sba...@redhat.com wrote on 10/15/2013 06:48:53 PM:
I've just written some proposals to address Heat's HOT software
configuration needs, and I'd like to use this thread to get some
feedback:
On 10/22/2013 08:45 AM, Mike Spreitzer wrote:
Steve Baker sba...@redhat.com wrote on 10/15/2013 06:48:53 PM:
I've just written some proposals to address Heat's HOT software
configuration needs, and I'd like to use this thread to get some
feedback:
(I really do not understand how the archive is ordered. In the by-thread
view, in which all messages with this subject are equally indented, the
last message listed is not the chronologically last.)
I see that components have parameters. In some uses (invocations) of
components, parameters
9, 2013 at 12:40 AM
Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] HOT Software orchestration
proposal for workflows
To: OpenStack Development Mailing List openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org
Excerpts from Clint Byrum's message
From: Clint Byrum cl...@fewbar.com
To: openstack-dev openstack-dev
On 16/10/13 21:02, Clint Byrum wrote:
Excerpts from Zane Bitter's message of 2013-10-16 06:16:33 -0700:
I'd love to be able to put this control in the user's hands by just
using provider templates - i.e. you designate PuppetServer.yaml as the
provider for an OS::Nova::Server in your template
On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 09:21:12PM -0400, Mike Spreitzer wrote:
Steve Baker sba...@redhat.com wrote on 10/15/2013 06:48:53 PM:
From: Steve Baker sba...@redhat.com
To: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org,
Date: 10/15/2013 06:51 PM
Subject: [openstack-dev] [Heat] HOT Software configuration
On 16/10/13 06:56, Mike Spreitzer wrote:
What is the difference between what today's heat engine does and a
workflow? I am interested to hear what you experts think, I hope it
will be clarifying. I presume the answers will touch on things like
error handling, state tracking, and updates.
On 16/10/13 00:48, Steve Baker wrote:
I've just written some proposals to address Heat's HOT software
configuration needs, and I'd like to use this thread to get some feedback:
https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Heat/Blueprints/hot-software-config
Steven Hardy sha...@redhat.com wrote on 10/16/2013 04:11:40 AM:
...
IMO we should be abstracting the software configuration complexity
behind a
Heat resource interface, not pushing it up to a pre-processor (which
implies some horribly complex interfaces at the heat template level)
I am not
Hi Steve,
thanks a lot taking the effort to write all this down. I had a look at both
wiki pages and have some comments below. This is really from the top of my
head, and I guess I have to spend some more time thinking about it, but I
wanted to provide some feedback anyway.
On components vs.
On 16/10/13 15:58, Mike Spreitzer wrote:
Zane Bitter zbit...@redhat.com wrote on 10/16/2013 08:25:38 AM:
To answer your question, the key thing that Heat does is take in two
declarative models and generate a workflow to transform one into the
other. (The general case of this is a stack
Zane Bitter zbit...@redhat.com wrote on 10/16/2013 10:30:44 AM:
On 16/10/13 15:58, Mike Spreitzer wrote:
...
Thanks for a great short sharp answer. In that light, I see a
concern.
Once a workflow has been generated, the system has lost the ability
to
adapt to changes in either model.
Excerpts from Zane Bitter's message of 2013-10-16 06:16:33 -0700:
On 16/10/13 00:48, Steve Baker wrote:
I've just written some proposals to address Heat's HOT software
configuration needs, and I'd like to use this thread to get some feedback:
Clint Byrum cl...@fewbar.com wrote on 10/16/2013 03:02:13 PM:
Excerpts from Zane Bitter's message of 2013-10-16 06:16:33 -0700:
For me the crucial question is, how do we define the interface for
synchronising and passing data from and to arbitrary applications
running under an
On 10/17/2013 02:16 AM, Zane Bitter wrote:
On 16/10/13 00:48, Steve Baker wrote:
I've just written some proposals to address Heat's HOT software
configuration needs, and I'd like to use this thread to get some
feedback:
https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Heat/Blueprints/hot-software-config
On 10/17/2013 03:11 AM, Thomas Spatzier wrote:
Hi Steve,
thanks a lot taking the effort to write all this down. I had a look at both
wiki pages and have some comments below. This is really from the top of my
head, and I guess I have to spend some more time thinking about it, but I
wanted to
Steve Baker sba...@redhat.com wrote on 10/15/2013 06:48:53 PM:
From: Steve Baker sba...@redhat.com
To: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org,
Date: 10/15/2013 06:51 PM
Subject: [openstack-dev] [Heat] HOT Software configuration proposal
I've just written some proposals to address Heat's HOT
On 10/16/2013 02:21 PM, Mike Spreitzer wrote:
Steve Baker sba...@redhat.com wrote on 10/15/2013 06:48:53 PM:
From: Steve Baker sba...@redhat.com
To: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org,
Date: 10/15/2013 06:51 PM
Subject: [openstack-dev] [Heat] HOT Software configuration proposal
I've
The threading in the archive includes this discussion under the HOT
Software orchestration proposal for workflows heading, and the overall
ordering in the archive looks very mixed up to me. I am going to reply
here, hoping that the new subject line will be subject to less strange
ordering in
Steven Dake sd...@redhat.com wrote on 11.10.2013 21:02:38:
From: Steven Dake sd...@redhat.com
To: OpenStack Development Mailing List
openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org,
Date: 11.10.2013 21:04
Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] HOT Software orchestration
proposal for workflows
On 10/11/2013
Hi Angus,
Thanks for detailed reply. I have a few comments that I have written below
in the context.
Angus Salkeld asalk...@redhat.com wrote on 10/13/2013 06:40:01 PM:
- INPUTS: all the attributes that are consumed/used/read by that
resource
(currently, we have Ref, GetAttrs that can give
...@fewbar.com
To: openstack-dev openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org
Date: 10/11/2013 12:43 PM
Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] HOT Software orchestration
proposal for workflows
Excerpts from Stan Lagun's message of 2013-10-11 07:22:37 -0700:
Hello,
Thanks Angus, Clint, I've got your design.
It seems
Hello,
Thanks Angus, Clint, I've got your design.
It seems that Murano can built on top of that. With service metadata
knowledge Murano can generate HOT templates with set of interdependent
configs.
Here is what will be needed:
1. Ability to implement support for custom software configuration
Excerpts from Stan Lagun's message of 2013-10-11 07:22:37 -0700:
Hello,
Thanks Angus, Clint, I've got your design.
It seems that Murano can built on top of that. With service metadata
knowledge Murano can generate HOT templates with set of interdependent
configs.
Here is what will be
On 10/9/2013 12:55 PM, Joshua Harlow wrote:
Your example sounds a lot like what taskflow is build for doing.
https://github.com/stackforge/taskflow/blob/master/taskflow/examples/calculate_in_parallel.py
is
a decent example.
In that one, tasks are created and input/output dependencies are
-dev@lists.openstack.org
Date: 10/11/2013 12:43 PM
Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] HOT Software orchestration
proposal for workflows
Excerpts from Stan Lagun's message of 2013-10-11 07:22:37 -0700:
Hello,
Thanks Angus, Clint, I've got your design.
It seems that Murano can built
Clint Byrum cl...@fewbar.com wrote on 10/11/2013 12:40:19 PM:
From: Clint Byrum cl...@fewbar.com
To: openstack-dev openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org
Date: 10/11/2013 12:43 PM
Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] HOT Software orchestration
proposal for workflows
3. Ability to return
On 10/11/2013 11:55 AM, Lakshminaraya Renganarayana wrote:
Clint Byrum cl...@fewbar.com wrote on 10/11/2013 12:40:19 PM:
From: Clint Byrum cl...@fewbar.com
To: openstack-dev openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org
Date: 10/11/2013 12:43 PM
Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] HOT Software
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