Re: [openstack-dev] [keystone] [Mistral] Autoprovisioning, per-user projects, and Federation

2015-11-11 Thread Zane Bitter
On 09/11/15 11:55, Adam Young wrote: On 11/09/2015 10:57 AM, Tim Hinrichs wrote: Congress happens to have the capability to run a script/API call under arbitrary conditions on the state of other OpenStack projects, which sounded like what you wanted. Or did I misread your original question?

Re: [openstack-dev] [keystone] [Mistral] Autoprovisioning, per-user projects, and Federation

2015-11-10 Thread Renat Akhmerov
> On 09 Nov 2015, at 20:43, Adam Young wrote: > > On 11/06/2015 06:28 PM, Tim Hinrichs wrote: >> Congress allows users to write a policy that executes an action under >> certain conditions. >> >> The conditions can be based on any data Congress has access to, which >>

Re: [openstack-dev] [keystone] [Mistral] Autoprovisioning, per-user projects, and Federation

2015-11-10 Thread Renat Akhmerov
> On 09 Nov 2015, at 21:57, Tim Hinrichs wrote: > > Congress happens to have the capability to run a script/API call under > arbitrary conditions on the state of other OpenStack projects, which sounded > like what you wanted. Or did I misread your original question? > >

Re: [openstack-dev] [keystone] [Mistral] Autoprovisioning, per-user projects, and Federation

2015-11-10 Thread Renat Akhmerov
Renat Akhmerov @ Mirantis Inc. > On 06 Nov 2015, at 00:09, Clint Byrum wrote: > > Excerpts from Doug Hellmann's message of 2015-11-05 09:51:41 -0800: >> Excerpts from Adam Young's message of 2015-11-05 12:34:12 -0500: >>> Can people help me work through the right set of

Re: [openstack-dev] [keystone] [Mistral] Autoprovisioning, per-user projects, and Federation

2015-11-10 Thread Renat Akhmerov
> On 06 Nov 2015, at 03:41, Doug Hellmann wrote: > > Excerpts from Adam Young's message of 2015-11-05 15:14:03 -0500: >> On 11/05/2015 01:09 PM, Clint Byrum wrote: >>> Excerpts from Doug Hellmann's message of 2015-11-05 09:51:41 -0800: Excerpts from Adam Young's

Re: [openstack-dev] [keystone] [Mistral] Autoprovisioning, per-user projects, and Federation

2015-11-10 Thread Renat Akhmerov
> On 10 Nov 2015, at 21:29, Renat Akhmerov wrote: > > >> On 09 Nov 2015, at 21:57, Tim Hinrichs wrote: >> >> Congress happens to have the capability to run a script/API call under >> arbitrary conditions on the state of other OpenStack projects, which

Re: [openstack-dev] [keystone] [Mistral] Autoprovisioning, per-user projects, and Federation

2015-11-09 Thread Adam Young
On 11/06/2015 06:28 PM, Tim Hinrichs wrote: Congress allows users to write a policy that executes an action under certain conditions. The conditions can be based on any data Congress has access to, which includes nova servers, neutron networks, cinder storage, keystone users, etc. We also

Re: [openstack-dev] [keystone] [Mistral] Autoprovisioning, per-user projects, and Federation

2015-11-09 Thread Tim Hinrichs
They shouldn't be combined because they can each be used without the other. That is, they each stand on their own. Congress can be used for monitoring or delegating policy without attempting to correct violations (i.e. without needing workflows). Mistral can be used to make complex changes

Re: [openstack-dev] [keystone] [Mistral] Autoprovisioning, per-user projects, and Federation

2015-11-09 Thread Richard Raseley
From this operator’s perspective this is exactly the element of community culture that, by encouraging the proliferation of projects and tools, is making the OpenStack landscape more complex and less {user,operator,architect,business decision maker} friendly. In my opinion, it is essentially a

Re: [openstack-dev] [keystone] [Mistral] Autoprovisioning, per-user projects, and Federation

2015-11-09 Thread Tim Hinrichs
Congress happens to have the capability to run a script/API call under arbitrary conditions on the state of other OpenStack projects, which sounded like what you wanted. Or did I misread your original question? Congress and Mistral are definitely not competing.Congress lets people declare

Re: [openstack-dev] [keystone] [Mistral] Autoprovisioning, per-user projects, and Federation

2015-11-09 Thread Adam Young
On 11/09/2015 10:57 AM, Tim Hinrichs wrote: Congress happens to have the capability to run a script/API call under arbitrary conditions on the state of other OpenStack projects, which sounded like what you wanted. Or did I misread your original question? Congress and Mistral are definitely

Re: [openstack-dev] [keystone] [Mistral] Autoprovisioning, per-user projects, and Federation

2015-11-09 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Richard Raseley's message of 2015-11-09 10:34:26 -0800: > From this operator’s perspective this is exactly the element of community > culture that, by encouraging the proliferation of projects and tools, is > making the OpenStack landscape more complex and less >

Re: [openstack-dev] [keystone] [Mistral] Autoprovisioning, per-user projects, and Federation

2015-11-06 Thread Tim Hinrichs
Congress allows users to write a policy that executes an action under certain conditions. The conditions can be based on any data Congress has access to, which includes nova servers, neutron networks, cinder storage, keystone users, etc. We also have some Ceilometer statistics; I'm not sure

Re: [openstack-dev] [keystone] [Mistral] Autoprovisioning, per-user projects, and Federation

2015-11-06 Thread Doug Hellmann
Excerpts from Dolph Mathews's message of 2015-11-05 16:31:28 -0600: > On Thu, Nov 5, 2015 at 3:43 PM, Doug Hellmann wrote: > > > Excerpts from Clint Byrum's message of 2015-11-05 10:09:49 -0800: > > > Excerpts from Doug Hellmann's message of 2015-11-05 09:51:41 -0800: > >

Re: [openstack-dev] [keystone] [Mistral] Autoprovisioning, per-user projects, and Federation

2015-11-05 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Doug Hellmann's message of 2015-11-05 09:51:41 -0800: > Excerpts from Adam Young's message of 2015-11-05 12:34:12 -0500: > > Can people help me work through the right set of tools for this use case > > (has come up from several Operators) and map out a plan to implement it: > > > >

Re: [openstack-dev] [keystone] [Mistral] Autoprovisioning, per-user projects, and Federation

2015-11-05 Thread Adam Young
On 11/05/2015 01:09 PM, Clint Byrum wrote: Excerpts from Doug Hellmann's message of 2015-11-05 09:51:41 -0800: Excerpts from Adam Young's message of 2015-11-05 12:34:12 -0500: Can people help me work through the right set of tools for this use case (has come up from several Operators) and map

Re: [openstack-dev] [keystone] [Mistral] Autoprovisioning, per-user projects, and Federation

2015-11-05 Thread Dolph Mathews
On Thu, Nov 5, 2015 at 3:43 PM, Doug Hellmann wrote: > Excerpts from Clint Byrum's message of 2015-11-05 10:09:49 -0800: > > Excerpts from Doug Hellmann's message of 2015-11-05 09:51:41 -0800: > > > Excerpts from Adam Young's message of 2015-11-05 12:34:12 -0500: > > > >

Re: [openstack-dev] [keystone] [Mistral] Autoprovisioning, per-user projects, and Federation

2015-11-05 Thread Doug Hellmann
Excerpts from Clint Byrum's message of 2015-11-05 10:09:49 -0800: > Excerpts from Doug Hellmann's message of 2015-11-05 09:51:41 -0800: > > Excerpts from Adam Young's message of 2015-11-05 12:34:12 -0500: > > > Can people help me work through the right set of tools for this use case > > > (has

Re: [openstack-dev] [keystone] [Mistral] Autoprovisioning, per-user projects, and Federation

2015-11-05 Thread Doug Hellmann
Excerpts from Adam Young's message of 2015-11-05 15:14:03 -0500: > On 11/05/2015 01:09 PM, Clint Byrum wrote: > > Excerpts from Doug Hellmann's message of 2015-11-05 09:51:41 -0800: > >> Excerpts from Adam Young's message of 2015-11-05 12:34:12 -0500: > >>> Can people help me work through the