Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][cinder] Would anyone from Nova Core be able to join the Cinder mid-cycle meetup?
We'll have a Google Hangout for the Cinder mid-cycle for virtual attendees and will post the links on IRC and the etherpad: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/cinder-liberty-midcycle-meetup We'll make sure we ping mreidem and the Nova channel when we're discussing Cinder - Nova topics. -Original Message- From: Matt Riedemann [mailto:mrie...@linux.vnet.ibm.com] Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2015 8:18 AM To: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][cinder] Would anyone from Nova Core be able to join the Cinder mid-cycle meetup? On 7/30/2015 12:31 AM, Anita Kuno wrote: On 07/29/2015 10:59 PM, John Garbutt wrote: On 24 July 2015 at 22:49, Jay S. Bryant jsbry...@electronicjungle.net wrote: All, I had the opportunity to chat with John Garbutt when he was here in Rochester for the Nova mid-cycle meet-up. We discussed the fact that there was much to be gained by improving the communication between the Cinder and Nova teams. We do have names written down for CrossProjectLiaisons for other projects. That is helping a little, but I am sure we can refine the idea so its more effective: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/CrossProjectLiaisons#Inter-project_Li aisons The basic ideas would be to get folks who are in the Nova meeting regularly to jump into the Cinder meeting when required, and someone else to do the reverse. What I am finding is that some folks are reluctant to come forward as Liasons initially, despite their possible interest. Some reasons for hesitation might include uncertainty of what responsibilities are understood with the role, uncertainty if there actually is time in the individual's schedule to attend meetings and be available for questions, clarification and follow up, that sort of thing. I am finding good success by encouraging someone who might consider trying on a cross project hat to do something along those lines: attend a meeting, follow up on an email, engage in a conversation with someone in another project on a specific issue and see how it feels. If it doesn't feel like a good fit, fair enough, thanks for trying it out. If you can help with one thing (example: cells with nova and neutron) great, you don't have to take on everything with the two projects, just focus on one issue and that is most welcome, thank you. (Thanks to mlavelle for volunteering with the cells cross project work here.) If you have done a few things, shown up for meetings for two projects, followed a particular spec, helped both projects become better informed about how the issue affects those projects, wonderful. Then if you feel like added your name to the wikipage, great, that helps others. But please don't feel that signing up has to be the first step, for some they experience the work for a while before they agree to it publicly, what ever works for you. Thanks Jay, John, and Paul, glad to see this conversation progress, Anita. For specific patches that really important to cinder, it would be good to advertise them in the usual place for nova: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/liberty-nova-priorities-tracking With that idea in mind, it was suggested that the Cinder team open an invitation to Nova members to attend our mid-cycle meet-up. The mid-cycle meet-up, of course, is not a secret. A member of the Nova team has always been welcome to join, just hoping that an explicit invitation here may spark some interest. :-) Note: John considered attending but is unable to do so. So looks like Paul might be there. I can try and join a hangout, if there is something urgent. That approach has big limitations, but happy to try (ideally AM, given I am in the UK). The mid-cycle meet-up for Cinder is 8/4 through 8/7 at the HP site in Fort Collins, CO . Friday is an optional code sprint day for those who are able to stay that long. Details about the meet-up can be seen on our mid-cycle meetup planning etherpad [1]. If you are able to join us and help us work through the various challenges we are having between Cinder and Nova it would be greatly appreciated! +1 Thanks, John _ _ OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev __ OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev If we want a name for nova liaison to cinder, then I can put my name in, I've spent enough time in the cinder channel lately and have been reviewing more volume-related code in nova where I'm not *completely* lost, just *kind of*
Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][cinder] Would anyone from Nova Core be able to join the Cinder mid-cycle meetup?
On 07/29/2015 10:59 PM, John Garbutt wrote: On 24 July 2015 at 22:49, Jay S. Bryant jsbry...@electronicjungle.net wrote: All, I had the opportunity to chat with John Garbutt when he was here in Rochester for the Nova mid-cycle meet-up. We discussed the fact that there was much to be gained by improving the communication between the Cinder and Nova teams. We do have names written down for CrossProjectLiaisons for other projects. That is helping a little, but I am sure we can refine the idea so its more effective: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/CrossProjectLiaisons#Inter-project_Liaisons The basic ideas would be to get folks who are in the Nova meeting regularly to jump into the Cinder meeting when required, and someone else to do the reverse. What I am finding is that some folks are reluctant to come forward as Liasons initially, despite their possible interest. Some reasons for hesitation might include uncertainty of what responsibilities are understood with the role, uncertainty if there actually is time in the individual's schedule to attend meetings and be available for questions, clarification and follow up, that sort of thing. I am finding good success by encouraging someone who might consider trying on a cross project hat to do something along those lines: attend a meeting, follow up on an email, engage in a conversation with someone in another project on a specific issue and see how it feels. If it doesn't feel like a good fit, fair enough, thanks for trying it out. If you can help with one thing (example: cells with nova and neutron) great, you don't have to take on everything with the two projects, just focus on one issue and that is most welcome, thank you. (Thanks to mlavelle for volunteering with the cells cross project work here.) If you have done a few things, shown up for meetings for two projects, followed a particular spec, helped both projects become better informed about how the issue affects those projects, wonderful. Then if you feel like added your name to the wikipage, great, that helps others. But please don't feel that signing up has to be the first step, for some they experience the work for a while before they agree to it publicly, what ever works for you. Thanks Jay, John, and Paul, glad to see this conversation progress, Anita. For specific patches that really important to cinder, it would be good to advertise them in the usual place for nova: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/liberty-nova-priorities-tracking With that idea in mind, it was suggested that the Cinder team open an invitation to Nova members to attend our mid-cycle meet-up. The mid-cycle meet-up, of course, is not a secret. A member of the Nova team has always been welcome to join, just hoping that an explicit invitation here may spark some interest. :-) Note: John considered attending but is unable to do so. So looks like Paul might be there. I can try and join a hangout, if there is something urgent. That approach has big limitations, but happy to try (ideally AM, given I am in the UK). The mid-cycle meet-up for Cinder is 8/4 through 8/7 at the HP site in Fort Collins, CO . Friday is an optional code sprint day for those who are able to stay that long. Details about the meet-up can be seen on our mid-cycle meetup planning etherpad [1]. If you are able to join us and help us work through the various challenges we are having between Cinder and Nova it would be greatly appreciated! +1 Thanks, John __ OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev __ OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][cinder] Would anyone from Nova Core be able to join the Cinder mid-cycle meetup?
On 24 July 2015 at 22:49, Jay S. Bryant jsbry...@electronicjungle.net wrote: All, I had the opportunity to chat with John Garbutt when he was here in Rochester for the Nova mid-cycle meet-up. We discussed the fact that there was much to be gained by improving the communication between the Cinder and Nova teams. We do have names written down for CrossProjectLiaisons for other projects. That is helping a little, but I am sure we can refine the idea so its more effective: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/CrossProjectLiaisons#Inter-project_Liaisons The basic ideas would be to get folks who are in the Nova meeting regularly to jump into the Cinder meeting when required, and someone else to do the reverse. For specific patches that really important to cinder, it would be good to advertise them in the usual place for nova: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/liberty-nova-priorities-tracking With that idea in mind, it was suggested that the Cinder team open an invitation to Nova members to attend our mid-cycle meet-up. The mid-cycle meet-up, of course, is not a secret. A member of the Nova team has always been welcome to join, just hoping that an explicit invitation here may spark some interest. :-) Note: John considered attending but is unable to do so. So looks like Paul might be there. I can try and join a hangout, if there is something urgent. That approach has big limitations, but happy to try (ideally AM, given I am in the UK). The mid-cycle meet-up for Cinder is 8/4 through 8/7 at the HP site in Fort Collins, CO . Friday is an optional code sprint day for those who are able to stay that long. Details about the meet-up can be seen on our mid-cycle meetup planning etherpad [1]. If you are able to join us and help us work through the various challenges we are having between Cinder and Nova it would be greatly appreciated! +1 Thanks, John __ OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][cinder] Would anyone from Nova Core be able to join the Cinder mid-cycle meetup?
Hi jay, There are a few Nova people in HP who intend to work on this area (perhaps you have heard that from Scott or Duncan). In fact I brought up that this would be coming up in Vancouver and that we intend to support it. Unfortunately none of us are available that week. I would like to be kept involved and will have to catch up with the other HP guys after the event. In the meantime, if you want names to be involved beyond the cinder mid-cycle you can put down as a place holder for HP and I will sort out people to be involved when we are all back from vacation. Paul -Original Message- From: Jay S. Bryant [mailto:jsbry...@electronicjungle.net] Sent: 24 July 2015 22:50 To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Subject: [openstack-dev] [nova][cinder] Would anyone from Nova Core be able to join the Cinder mid-cycle meetup? All, I had the opportunity to chat with John Garbutt when he was here in Rochester for the Nova mid-cycle meet-up. We discussed the fact that there was much to be gained by improving the communication between the Cinder and Nova teams. With that idea in mind, it was suggested that the Cinder team open an invitation to Nova members to attend our mid-cycle meet-up. The mid-cycle meet-up, of course, is not a secret. A member of the Nova team has always been welcome to join, just hoping that an explicit invitation here may spark some interest. :-) Note: John considered attending but is unable to do so. The mid-cycle meet-up for Cinder is 8/4 through 8/7 at the HP site in Fort Collins, CO . Friday is an optional code sprint day for those who are able to stay that long. Details about the meet-up can be seen on our mid-cycle meetup planning etherpad [1]. If you are able to join us and help us work through the various challenges we are having between Cinder and Nova it would be greatly appreciated! Jay [1] https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/cinder-liberty-midcycle-meetup __ OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev __ OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][cinder] Would anyone from Nova Core be able to join the Cinder mid-cycle meetup?
In the meantime, if you want names to be involved beyond the cinder mid-cycle you can put down as a place holder for HP and I will sort out people to be involved when we are all back from vacation. Of course I meant you can put ME down :) Paul -Original Message- From: Murray, Paul (HP Cloud) Sent: 28 July 2015 12:52 To: 'jsbry...@electronicjungle.net'; OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Cc: Rosa, Andrea (HP Cloud Services) Subject: RE: [openstack-dev] [nova][cinder] Would anyone from Nova Core be able to join the Cinder mid-cycle meetup? Hi jay, There are a few Nova people in HP who intend to work on this area (perhaps you have heard that from Scott or Duncan). In fact I brought up that this would be coming up in Vancouver and that we intend to support it. Unfortunately none of us are available that week. I would like to be kept involved and will have to catch up with the other HP guys after the event. In the meantime, if you want names to be involved beyond the cinder mid-cycle you can put down as a place holder for HP and I will sort out people to be involved when we are all back from vacation. Paul -Original Message- From: Jay S. Bryant [mailto:jsbry...@electronicjungle.net] Sent: 24 July 2015 22:50 To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Subject: [openstack-dev] [nova][cinder] Would anyone from Nova Core be able to join the Cinder mid-cycle meetup? All, I had the opportunity to chat with John Garbutt when he was here in Rochester for the Nova mid-cycle meet-up. We discussed the fact that there was much to be gained by improving the communication between the Cinder and Nova teams. With that idea in mind, it was suggested that the Cinder team open an invitation to Nova members to attend our mid-cycle meet-up. The mid-cycle meet-up, of course, is not a secret. A member of the Nova team has always been welcome to join, just hoping that an explicit invitation here may spark some interest. :-) Note: John considered attending but is unable to do so. The mid-cycle meet-up for Cinder is 8/4 through 8/7 at the HP site in Fort Collins, CO . Friday is an optional code sprint day for those who are able to stay that long. Details about the meet-up can be seen on our mid-cycle meetup planning etherpad [1]. If you are able to join us and help us work through the various challenges we are having between Cinder and Nova it would be greatly appreciated! Jay [1] https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/cinder-liberty-midcycle-meetup __ OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev __ OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
