Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Next minimum libvirt version

2017-02-13 Thread Thomas Bechtold
On Fri, 2017-02-10 at 12:35 -0600, Matt Riedemann wrote:
> On 2/10/2017 11:18 AM, Thomas Bechtold wrote:
> > 
> > For SUSE the wiki is updated and 1.2.9 should be fine.
> > 
> > 
> > Cheers,
> > 
> > Tom
> > 
> 
> Thanks Tom.
> 
> Would 1.3.1 as the next minimum in Queens be acceptable for SUSE?

Yes.

Cheers,

Tom

__
OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)
Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe
http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev


Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Next minimum libvirt version

2017-02-10 Thread Matt Riedemann

On 2/10/2017 11:18 AM, Thomas Bechtold wrote:


For SUSE the wiki is updated and 1.2.9 should be fine.


Cheers,

Tom



Thanks Tom.

Would 1.3.1 as the next minimum in Queens be acceptable for SUSE?

--

Thanks,

Matt Riedemann

__
OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)
Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe
http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev


Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Next minimum libvirt version

2017-02-10 Thread Thomas Bechtold
Hi,

On Thu, 2017-02-09 at 17:29 -0600, Matt Riedemann wrote:
> Since danpb hasn't been around I've sort of forgotten about this, but
> we 
> should talk about bumping the minimum required libvirt version in
> nova.
> 
> Currently it's 1.2.1 and the next was set to 1.2.9.
> 
> On master we're gating on ubuntu 14.04 which has libvirt 1.3.1
> (14.04 
> had 1.2.2).
> 
> If we move to require 1.2.9 that effectively kills 14.04 support for 
> devstack + libvirt on master, which is probably OK.
> 
> There is also the distro support wiki [1] which hasn't been updated
> in 
> awhile.

For SUSE the wiki is updated and 1.2.9 should be fine.


Cheers,

Tom

__
OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)
Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe
http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev


Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Next minimum libvirt version

2017-02-10 Thread Kashyap Chamarthy
On Thu, Feb 09, 2017 at 05:29:22PM -0600, Matt Riedemann wrote:
> Since danpb hasn't been around I've sort of forgotten about this, but we
> should talk about bumping the minimum required libvirt version in nova.
> 
> Currently it's 1.2.1 and the next was set to 1.2.9.
> 
> On master we're gating on ubuntu 14.04 which has libvirt 1.3.1 (14.04 had
> 1.2.2).
> 
> If we move to require 1.2.9 that effectively kills 14.04 support for
> devstack + libvirt on master, which is probably OK.
> 
> There is also the distro support wiki [1] which hasn't been updated in
> awhile.
> 
> I'm wondering if 1.2.9 is a safe move for the next required minimum version
> and if so, does anyone have ideas on the next required version after that?

1.2.9 was release on OCT 2014.

And there have been 26 releases from 1.2.9 until now:

1.2.{10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20,21}
1.3.{0,1,2,3,4,5}
2.0.0 [01 JUL 2016]
2.1.0 [02 AUG 2016]
2.2.0 [02 SEP 2016]
2.3.0 [04 OCT 2016]
2.4.0 [01 NOV 2016]
2.5.0 [04 DEC 2016]
3.0.0 [17 JAN 2017]
3.1.0 [Unreleased, as of 10-FEB-2017]

IIUC, going by how[X] Dan settled on 1.1.1, as minimum version for
Newton, it seems like have to mine through the current releases,
that'll: 

  - provide unconditional support for specific features we need; 
  - removes need for maintaining backward compatibility code

[X] 
http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-operators/2015-October/008400.html

---

Good news for future: Upstream libvirt recently started an effort to
make release notes more consumable, by writing more 'structured' release
notes, and categorizing the work into: new Features; improvements; and
bug fixes.

You can see the result by comparing this page:

http://libvirt.org/news.html

With the older releases (where it's mostly information from Git
commits):

http://libvirt.org/news-2016.html

[...]

-- 
/kashyap

__
OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)
Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe
http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev


Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Next minimum libvirt version

2017-02-09 Thread Monty Taylor
On 02/09/2017 05:51 PM, Steve Gordon wrote:
> - Original Message -
>> From: "Matt Riedemann" 
>> To: "OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)" 
>> ,
>> openstack-operat...@lists.openstack.org
>> Sent: Thursday, February 9, 2017 6:29:22 PM
>> Subject: [openstack-dev] [nova] Next minimum libvirt version
>>
>> Since danpb hasn't been around I've sort of forgotten about this, but we
>> should talk about bumping the minimum required libvirt version in nova.
>>
>> Currently it's 1.2.1 and the next was set to 1.2.9.
>>
>> On master we're gating on ubuntu 14.04 which has libvirt 1.3.1 (14.04
>> had 1.2.2).
>>
>> If we move to require 1.2.9 that effectively kills 14.04 support for
>> devstack + libvirt on master, which is probably OK.
> 
> This would also kill off RHEL/CentOS 7.1 support but that would also seem to 
> be OK at this point.

Our distro support policy is to at minimum support latest Ubuntu LTS and
latest RHEL. I think given that it's more than fine for us to drop
support for 14.04 and RHEL 7.1 in master.

>> There is also the distro support wiki [1] which hasn't been updated in
>> awhile.
> 
> I've added the details I have for Fedora 25 and RHEL/CentOS 7.3, TL;DR:
> 
> Fedora 25:
> Libvirt 2.2.0
> Qemu 2.7.1
> Libguestfs 1.34.3
> 
> RHEL 7.3:
> Libvirt 2.0.0
> Qemu 2.6.0
> Libguestfs 1.32.7


So I think, sadly, that means:
Libvirt: 1.3.1
Qemu: 2.5
Libguestfs: 1.32.3

Which are all the Xenial versions and what we're testing in the gate
(and older than the RHEL or Fedora versions)

FWIW, Yakkety has:
Libvirt: 2.1.0
Qemu: 2.6.1
Libguestfs: 1.32.7

so progress does seem to be being made there.

> 
>> I'm wondering if 1.2.9 is a safe move for the next required minimum
>> version and if so, does anyone have ideas on the next required version
>> after that?
>>
>> I'm hoping some of the Red Hat people can chime in here.
> 
> I just play someone intelligent on TV so adding Sahid and Vladik who might be 
> better placed to comment in Dan's absence.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Steve
> 


__
OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)
Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe
http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev


Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Next minimum libvirt version

2017-02-09 Thread Steve Gordon
- Original Message -
> From: "Matt Riedemann" 
> To: "OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)" 
> ,
> openstack-operat...@lists.openstack.org
> Sent: Thursday, February 9, 2017 6:29:22 PM
> Subject: [openstack-dev] [nova] Next minimum libvirt version
> 
> Since danpb hasn't been around I've sort of forgotten about this, but we
> should talk about bumping the minimum required libvirt version in nova.
> 
> Currently it's 1.2.1 and the next was set to 1.2.9.
> 
> On master we're gating on ubuntu 14.04 which has libvirt 1.3.1 (14.04
> had 1.2.2).
> 
> If we move to require 1.2.9 that effectively kills 14.04 support for
> devstack + libvirt on master, which is probably OK.

This would also kill off RHEL/CentOS 7.1 support but that would also seem to be 
OK at this point.

> There is also the distro support wiki [1] which hasn't been updated in
> awhile.

I've added the details I have for Fedora 25 and RHEL/CentOS 7.3, TL;DR:

Fedora 25:
Libvirt 2.2.0
Qemu 2.7.1
Libguestfs 1.34.3

RHEL 7.3:
Libvirt 2.0.0
Qemu 2.6.0
Libguestfs 1.32.7
 

> I'm wondering if 1.2.9 is a safe move for the next required minimum
> version and if so, does anyone have ideas on the next required version
> after that?
> 
> I'm hoping some of the Red Hat people can chime in here.

I just play someone intelligent on TV so adding Sahid and Vladik who might be 
better placed to comment in Dan's absence.

Thanks,

Steve

-- 
Steve Gordon,
Principal Product Manager,
Red Hat OpenStack Platform

__
OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)
Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe
http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev