Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] python 2.6 support for oslo libraries

2014-11-26 Thread Julien Danjou
On Fri, Oct 31 2014, Flavio Percoco wrote: Fully agree! The more I think about it, the more I'm convinced we should keep py26 in oslo until EOL Juno. It'll take time, it may be painful but it'll be simpler to explain and more importantly it'll be simpler to do. Keeping this simple will

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] python 2.6 support for oslo libraries

2014-11-26 Thread Andreas Jaeger
On 11/26/2014 10:46 AM, Julien Danjou wrote: On Fri, Oct 31 2014, Flavio Percoco wrote: Fully agree! The more I think about it, the more I'm convinced we should keep py26 in oslo until EOL Juno. It'll take time, it may be painful but it'll be simpler to explain and more importantly it'll

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] python 2.6 support for oslo libraries

2014-11-26 Thread Julien Danjou
On Wed, Nov 26 2014, Andreas Jaeger wrote: The libraries have 2.6 support enabled as discussed - but if indeed some are missing, please send patches, So to recap, it seems to me the plan is to keep all Oslo lib with Python 2.6 so we don't have any transient dependency problem with stable in

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] python 2.6 support for oslo libraries

2014-11-26 Thread Andreas Jaeger
On 11/26/2014 02:48 PM, Julien Danjou wrote: On Wed, Nov 26 2014, Andreas Jaeger wrote: The libraries have 2.6 support enabled as discussed - but if indeed some are missing, please send patches, So to recap, it seems to me the plan is to keep all Oslo lib with Python 2.6 so we don't have

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] python 2.6 support for oslo libraries

2014-11-26 Thread Ben Nemec
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 11/26/2014 07:48 AM, Julien Danjou wrote: On Wed, Nov 26 2014, Andreas Jaeger wrote: The libraries have 2.6 support enabled as discussed - but if indeed some are missing, please send patches, So to recap, it seems to me the plan is to keep

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] python 2.6 support for oslo libraries

2014-10-31 Thread Flavio Percoco
On 30/10/14 12:25 -0500, Ben Nemec wrote: On 10/23/2014 04:18 PM, Doug Hellmann wrote: On Oct 23, 2014, at 2:56 AM, Flavio Percoco fla...@redhat.com wrote: On 10/22/2014 08:15 PM, Doug Hellmann wrote: The application projects are dropping python 2.6 support during Kilo, and I’ve had

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] python 2.6 support for oslo libraries

2014-10-31 Thread Jeremy Stanley
On 2014-10-31 13:50:25 +1300 (+1300), Robert Collins wrote: Actually no - because of pip install, we need to keep support up until we can tell folk we don't support them anymore, which is after the last point release, not at it. If we drop support earlier, we can't release the support dropping

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] python 2.6 support for oslo libraries

2014-10-30 Thread Ben Nemec
On 10/23/2014 04:18 PM, Doug Hellmann wrote: On Oct 23, 2014, at 2:56 AM, Flavio Percoco fla...@redhat.com wrote: On 10/22/2014 08:15 PM, Doug Hellmann wrote: The application projects are dropping python 2.6 support during Kilo, and I’ve had several people ask recently about what this

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] python 2.6 support for oslo libraries

2014-10-30 Thread Robert Collins
On 24 October 2014 13:14, Jeremy Stanley fu...@yuggoth.org wrote: On 2014-10-23 17:18:04 -0400 (-0400), Doug Hellmann wrote: I think we have to actually wait for M, don’t we (K L represents 1 year where J is supported, M is the first release where J is not supported and 2.6 can be fully

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] python 2.6 support for oslo libraries

2014-10-24 Thread Flavio Percoco
On 10/24/2014 02:14 AM, Jeremy Stanley wrote: On 2014-10-23 17:18:04 -0400 (-0400), Doug Hellmann wrote: I think we have to actually wait for M, don’t we (K L represents 1 year where J is supported, M is the first release where J is not supported and 2.6 can be fully dropped). [...]

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] python 2.6 support for oslo libraries

2014-10-24 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Oct 23, 2014, at 8:14 PM, Jeremy Stanley fu...@yuggoth.org wrote: On 2014-10-23 17:18:04 -0400 (-0400), Doug Hellmann wrote: I think we have to actually wait for M, don’t we (K L represents 1 year where J is supported, M is the first release where J is not supported and 2.6 can be fully

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] python 2.6 support for oslo libraries

2014-10-23 Thread Flavio Percoco
On 10/22/2014 08:15 PM, Doug Hellmann wrote: The application projects are dropping python 2.6 support during Kilo, and I’ve had several people ask recently about what this means for Oslo. Because we create libraries that will be used by stable versions of projects that still need to run on

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] python 2.6 support for oslo libraries

2014-10-23 Thread Andreas Jaeger
Doug, thanks for writing this up. Looking at your list, I created a patch and only changed oslo.log: https://review.openstack.org/130444 Please double check that I didn't miss anything, Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger aj@{suse.com,opensuse.org} Twitter: jaegerandi SUSE LINUX Products GmbH,

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] python 2.6 support for oslo libraries

2014-10-23 Thread Flavio Percoco
On 10/23/2014 08:56 AM, Flavio Percoco wrote: On 10/22/2014 08:15 PM, Doug Hellmann wrote: The application projects are dropping python 2.6 support during Kilo, and I’ve had several people ask recently about what this means for Oslo. Because we create libraries that will be used by stable

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] python 2.6 support for oslo libraries

2014-10-23 Thread Andrey Kurilin
Just a joke: Can we drop supporting Python 2.6, when several project still have hooks for Python 2.4? https://github.com/openstack/python-novaclient/blob/master/novaclient/exceptions.py#L195-L203 https://github.com/openstack/python-cinderclient/blob/master/cinderclient/exceptions.py#L147-L155 On

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] python 2.6 support for oslo libraries

2014-10-23 Thread Kevin L. Mitchell
On Thu, 2014-10-23 at 18:56 +0300, Andrey Kurilin wrote: Just a joke: Can we drop supporting Python 2.6, when several project still have hooks for Python 2.4? https://github.com/openstack/python-novaclient/blob/master/novaclient/exceptions.py#L195-L203

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] python 2.6 support for oslo libraries

2014-10-23 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Oct 23, 2014, at 2:56 AM, Flavio Percoco fla...@redhat.com wrote: On 10/22/2014 08:15 PM, Doug Hellmann wrote: The application projects are dropping python 2.6 support during Kilo, and I’ve had several people ask recently about what this means for Oslo. Because we create libraries that

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] python 2.6 support for oslo libraries

2014-10-23 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Oct 23, 2014, at 12:30 PM, Kevin L. Mitchell kevin.mitch...@rackspace.com wrote: On Thu, 2014-10-23 at 18:56 +0300, Andrey Kurilin wrote: Just a joke: Can we drop supporting Python 2.6, when several project still have hooks for Python 2.4?

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] python 2.6 support for oslo libraries

2014-10-23 Thread Kevin L. Mitchell
On Thu, 2014-10-23 at 17:19 -0400, Doug Hellmann wrote: I’m not aware of any Oslo code that presents a problem for those plugins. We wouldn’t want to cause a problem, but as you say, we don’t have anywhere to test 2.4 code. Do you know if the Xen driver uses any of the Oslo code? I missed the

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] python 2.6 support for oslo libraries

2014-10-23 Thread Jeremy Stanley
On 2014-10-23 17:18:04 -0400 (-0400), Doug Hellmann wrote: I think we have to actually wait for M, don’t we (K L represents 1 year where J is supported, M is the first release where J is not supported and 2.6 can be fully dropped). [...] Roughly speaking, probably. It's more accurate to say