Re: [openstack-dev] [penstack-dev]Discussion about the future of OpenStack in China
Hi Jay, Yes, I used google translator and modified few. I will talk with OpenStack operation manager in China to find a way to translate them. Your questions are for the first blog [1], I think. I share the blogs here because I think the authors may follow the mail list as well and hope they will reply. And if you have time, you can read [2] and others. Thanks On Tue, Sep 25, 2018 at 1:12 AM Jay Pipes wrote: > Fred, > > I had a hard time understanding the articles. I'm not sure if you used > Google Translate to do the translation from Chinese to English, but I > personally found both of them difficult to follow. > > There were a couple points that I did manage to decipher, though. One > thing that both articles seemed to say was that OpenStack doesn't meet > public (AWS-ish) cloud use cases and OpenStack doesn't compare favorably > to VMWare either. > > Is there a large contingent of Chinese OpenStack users that expect > OpenStack to be a free (as in beer) version of VMware technology? > > What are the 3 most important features that Chinese OpenStack users > would like to see included in OpenStack projects? > > Thanks, > -jay > > On 09/24/2018 11:10 AM, Fred Li wrote: > > Hi folks, > > > > Recently there are several blogs which discussed about the future of > > OpenStack. If I was not wrong, the first one is > > "OpenStack-8-year-itch"[1], and you can find its English version > > attached. Thanks to google translation. The second one is > > "5-years-my-opinion-on-OpenStack" [2] with English version attached as > > well. Please translate the 3 to 6 and read them if you are interested. > > > > I don't want to judge anything here. I just want to share as they are > > quite hot discussion and I think it is valuable for the whole community, > > not part of community to know. > > > > [1] https://mp.weixin.qq.com/s/GM5cMOl0q3hb_6_eEiixzA > > [2] https://mp.weixin.qq.com/s/qZkE4o_BHBPlbIjekjDRKw > > [3] https://mp.weixin.qq.com/s/svX4z3JM5ArQ57A1jFoyLw > > [4] https://mp.weixin.qq.com/s/Nyb0OxI2Z7LxDpofTTyWOg > > [5] https://mp.weixin.qq.com/s/5GV4i8kyedHSbCxCO1VBRw > > [6] https://mp.weixin.qq.com/s/yeBcMogumXKGQ0KyKrgbqA > > -- > > Regards > > Fred Li (李永乐) > > > > > > > __ > > OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) > > Unsubscribe: > openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe > > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev > > > -- Regards Fred Li (李永乐) __ OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
Re: [openstack-dev] [penstack-dev]Discussion about the future of OpenStack in China
Senlin also supports the HA use case via its health policy. On Mon, Sep 24, 2018 at 4:26 PM Zhipeng Huang wrote: > > watcher is known by some, but I don't think Masakari is > > On Tue, Sep 25, 2018 at 5:47 AM Matt Riedemann wrote: >> >> On 9/24/2018 12:12 PM, Jay Pipes wrote: >> > There were a couple points that I did manage to decipher, though. One >> > thing that both articles seemed to say was that OpenStack doesn't meet >> > public (AWS-ish) cloud use cases and OpenStack doesn't compare favorably >> > to VMWare either. >> >> Yeah I picked up on that also - trying to be all things to all people >> means we do less well at any single thing. No surprises there. >> >> > >> > Is there a large contingent of Chinese OpenStack users that expect >> > OpenStack to be a free (as in beer) version of VMware technology? >> > >> > What are the 3 most important features that Chinese OpenStack users >> > would like to see included in OpenStack projects? >> >> Yeah I picked up on a few things as well. The article was talking about >> gaps in upstream services: >> >> a) they did a bunch of work on trove for their dbaas solution, but did >> they contribute any of that work? >> >> b) they mentioned a lack of DRS and HA support, but didn't mention the >> Watcher or Masakari projects - maybe they didn't know they exist? >> >> -- >> >> Thanks, >> >> Matt >> >> __ >> OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) >> Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe >> http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev > > > > -- > Zhipeng (Howard) Huang > > Standard Engineer > IT Standard & Patent/IT Product Line > Huawei Technologies Co,. Ltd > Email: huangzhip...@huawei.com > Office: Huawei Industrial Base, Longgang, Shenzhen > > (Previous) > Research Assistant > Mobile Ad-Hoc Network Lab, Calit2 > University of California, Irvine > Email: zhipe...@uci.edu > Office: Calit2 Building Room 2402 > > OpenStack, OPNFV, OpenDaylight, OpenCompute Aficionado > __ > OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) > Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev __ OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
Re: [openstack-dev] [penstack-dev]Discussion about the future of OpenStack in China
watcher is known by some, but I don't think Masakari is On Tue, Sep 25, 2018 at 5:47 AM Matt Riedemann wrote: > On 9/24/2018 12:12 PM, Jay Pipes wrote: > > There were a couple points that I did manage to decipher, though. One > > thing that both articles seemed to say was that OpenStack doesn't meet > > public (AWS-ish) cloud use cases and OpenStack doesn't compare favorably > > to VMWare either. > > Yeah I picked up on that also - trying to be all things to all people > means we do less well at any single thing. No surprises there. > > > > > Is there a large contingent of Chinese OpenStack users that expect > > OpenStack to be a free (as in beer) version of VMware technology? > > > > What are the 3 most important features that Chinese OpenStack users > > would like to see included in OpenStack projects? > > Yeah I picked up on a few things as well. The article was talking about > gaps in upstream services: > > a) they did a bunch of work on trove for their dbaas solution, but did > they contribute any of that work? > > b) they mentioned a lack of DRS and HA support, but didn't mention the > Watcher or Masakari projects - maybe they didn't know they exist? > > -- > > Thanks, > > Matt > > __ > OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) > Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev > -- Zhipeng (Howard) Huang Standard Engineer IT Standard & Patent/IT Product Line Huawei Technologies Co,. Ltd Email: huangzhip...@huawei.com Office: Huawei Industrial Base, Longgang, Shenzhen (Previous) Research Assistant Mobile Ad-Hoc Network Lab, Calit2 University of California, Irvine Email: zhipe...@uci.edu Office: Calit2 Building Room 2402 OpenStack, OPNFV, OpenDaylight, OpenCompute Aficionado __ OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
Re: [openstack-dev] [penstack-dev]Discussion about the future of OpenStack in China
On 9/24/2018 12:12 PM, Jay Pipes wrote: There were a couple points that I did manage to decipher, though. One thing that both articles seemed to say was that OpenStack doesn't meet public (AWS-ish) cloud use cases and OpenStack doesn't compare favorably to VMWare either. Yeah I picked up on that also - trying to be all things to all people means we do less well at any single thing. No surprises there. Is there a large contingent of Chinese OpenStack users that expect OpenStack to be a free (as in beer) version of VMware technology? What are the 3 most important features that Chinese OpenStack users would like to see included in OpenStack projects? Yeah I picked up on a few things as well. The article was talking about gaps in upstream services: a) they did a bunch of work on trove for their dbaas solution, but did they contribute any of that work? b) they mentioned a lack of DRS and HA support, but didn't mention the Watcher or Masakari projects - maybe they didn't know they exist? -- Thanks, Matt __ OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
Re: [openstack-dev] [penstack-dev]Discussion about the future of OpenStack in China
Fred, I had a hard time understanding the articles. I'm not sure if you used Google Translate to do the translation from Chinese to English, but I personally found both of them difficult to follow. There were a couple points that I did manage to decipher, though. One thing that both articles seemed to say was that OpenStack doesn't meet public (AWS-ish) cloud use cases and OpenStack doesn't compare favorably to VMWare either. Is there a large contingent of Chinese OpenStack users that expect OpenStack to be a free (as in beer) version of VMware technology? What are the 3 most important features that Chinese OpenStack users would like to see included in OpenStack projects? Thanks, -jay On 09/24/2018 11:10 AM, Fred Li wrote: Hi folks, Recently there are several blogs which discussed about the future of OpenStack. If I was not wrong, the first one is "OpenStack-8-year-itch"[1], and you can find its English version attached. Thanks to google translation. The second one is "5-years-my-opinion-on-OpenStack" [2] with English version attached as well. Please translate the 3 to 6 and read them if you are interested. I don't want to judge anything here. I just want to share as they are quite hot discussion and I think it is valuable for the whole community, not part of community to know. [1] https://mp.weixin.qq.com/s/GM5cMOl0q3hb_6_eEiixzA [2] https://mp.weixin.qq.com/s/qZkE4o_BHBPlbIjekjDRKw [3] https://mp.weixin.qq.com/s/svX4z3JM5ArQ57A1jFoyLw [4] https://mp.weixin.qq.com/s/Nyb0OxI2Z7LxDpofTTyWOg [5] https://mp.weixin.qq.com/s/5GV4i8kyedHSbCxCO1VBRw [6] https://mp.weixin.qq.com/s/yeBcMogumXKGQ0KyKrgbqA -- Regards Fred Li (李永乐) __ OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev __ OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
