Re: [openstack-dev] [tc][all][ptl] Most Supported Queens Goals and Improving Goal Completion

2017-07-05 Thread Lance Bragstad
On 06/30/2017 04:38 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote: > Mike Perez wrote: >> [...] >> What do people think before we bikeshed on the name? Would having a >> champion volunteer to each goal to help? > It feels like most agree that having champions would help. Do we have > any volunteer for the

Re: [openstack-dev] [tc][all][ptl] Most Supported Queens Goals and Improving Goal Completion

2017-06-30 Thread Chandan kumar
On Fri, Jun 30, 2017 at 3:08 PM, Thierry Carrez wrote: > Mike Perez wrote: >> [...] >> What do people think before we bikeshed on the name? Would having a >> champion volunteer to each goal to help? > > It feels like most agree that having champions would help. Do we have >

Re: [openstack-dev] [tc][all][ptl] Most Supported Queens Goals and Improving Goal Completion

2017-06-30 Thread Thierry Carrez
Mike Perez wrote: > [...] > What do people think before we bikeshed on the name? Would having a > champion volunteer to each goal to help? It feels like most agree that having champions would help. Do we have any volunteer for the currently-proposed Pike goals ? As a reminder, those are: * Split

Re: [openstack-dev] [tc][all][ptl] Most Supported Queens Goals and Improving Goal Completion

2017-06-27 Thread Sean Dague
On 06/27/2017 04:50 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote: > gordon chung wrote: >> do we know why they're not being completed? indifference? lack of resources? > > I would say it's a mix of reasons. Sometimes it's a resource issue, but > most of the time it's a prioritization issue (everyone waiting for >

Re: [openstack-dev] [tc][all][ptl] Most Supported Queens Goals and Improving Goal Completion

2017-06-27 Thread Thierry Carrez
gordon chung wrote: > do we know why they're not being completed? indifference? lack of resources? I would say it's a mix of reasons. Sometimes it's a resource issue, but most of the time it's a prioritization issue (everyone waiting for someone else to pick it up), and in remaining cases it's

Re: [openstack-dev] [tc][all][ptl] Most Supported Queens Goals and Improving Goal Completion

2017-06-23 Thread Kendall Nelson
I think more than one champion is helpful in some cases, but its dangerous when you get more than two that each person thinks the other two will handle things unless they are very communicative with one another :) Somewhere else in this thread the idea of a committee and a chair was mentioned

Re: [openstack-dev] [tc][all][ptl] Most Supported Queens Goals and Improving Goal Completion

2017-06-23 Thread gordon chung
On 22/06/17 01:57 PM, Mike Perez wrote: > An idea that came from the meeting was creating a role of "Champions", > who are the drum beaters to get a goal done by helping projects with > tracking status and sometimes doing code patches. These would be > interested volunteers who have a good

Re: [openstack-dev] [tc][all][ptl] Most Supported Queens Goals and Improving Goal Completion

2017-06-23 Thread Harry Rybacki
On Fri, Jun 23, 2017 at 6:14 AM, Sean Dague wrote: > On 06/23/2017 05:44 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote: >> Lance Bragstad wrote: >>> Is the role of a goal "champion" limited to a single person? Can it be >>> distributed across multiple people pending actions are well communicated? >>

Re: [openstack-dev] [tc][all][ptl] Most Supported Queens Goals and Improving Goal Completion

2017-06-23 Thread Sean Dague
On 06/23/2017 05:44 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote: > Lance Bragstad wrote: >> Is the role of a goal "champion" limited to a single person? Can it be >> distributed across multiple people pending actions are well communicated? > > I'm a bit torn on that. On one hand work can definitely (and probably >

Re: [openstack-dev] [tc][all][ptl] Most Supported Queens Goals and Improving Goal Completion

2017-06-23 Thread Thierry Carrez
Lance Bragstad wrote: > Is the role of a goal "champion" limited to a single person? Can it be > distributed across multiple people pending actions are well communicated? I'm a bit torn on that. On one hand work can definitely (and probably should) be covered by multiple people. But I like the

Re: [openstack-dev] [tc][all][ptl] Most Supported Queens Goals and Improving Goal Completion

2017-06-22 Thread Lingxian Kong
I like the idea, which means some projects lack of resources could benefit more from the whole community :) Cheers, Lingxian Kong (Larry) On Fri, Jun 23, 2017 at 5:57 AM, Mike Perez wrote: > Hey all, > > In the community wide goals, we started as a group discussing goals at

Re: [openstack-dev] [tc][all][ptl] Most Supported Queens Goals and Improving Goal Completion

2017-06-22 Thread Sean McGinnis
> > > > An idea that came from the meeting was creating a role of "Champions", > > who are the drum beaters to get a goal done by helping projects with > > tracking status and sometimes doing code patches. These would be > > interested volunteers who have a good understanding of their selected > >

Re: [openstack-dev] [tc][all][ptl] Most Supported Queens Goals and Improving Goal Completion

2017-06-22 Thread Lance Bragstad
On 06/22/2017 12:57 PM, Mike Perez wrote: > Hey all, > > In the community wide goals, we started as a group discussing goals at > the OpenStack Forum. Then we brought those ideas to the mailing list > to continue the discussion and include those that were not able to be > at the forum. The