Re: [openstack-dev] [tripleo][heat][ironic] Heat Ironic resources and ready state orchestration

2014-09-17 Thread Dmitry Tantsur
On Tue, 2014-09-16 at 15:42 -0400, Zane Bitter wrote: On 16/09/14 15:24, Devananda van der Veen wrote: On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 11:44 AM, Zane Bitter zbit...@redhat.com wrote: On 16/09/14 13:56, Devananda van der Veen wrote: On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 9:00 AM, Steven Hardy sha...@redhat.com

Re: [openstack-dev] [tripleo][heat][ironic] Heat Ironic resources and ready state orchestration

2014-09-17 Thread Steven Hardy
On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 02:06:59PM -0700, Devananda van der Veen wrote: On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 12:42 PM, Zane Bitter zbit...@redhat.com wrote: On 16/09/14 15:24, Devananda van der Veen wrote: On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 11:44 AM, Zane Bitter zbit...@redhat.com wrote: On 16/09/14 13:56,

Re: [openstack-dev] [tripleo][heat][ironic] Heat Ironic resources and ready state orchestration

2014-09-17 Thread Lucas Alvares Gomes
1. Not everyone will have an enterprise CMDB, so there should be some way to input inventory without one (even if it is a text file fed into ironicclient). The bulk-loading format to do this is TBD. 2. A way to generate that inventory in an automated way is desirable for some folks, but

Re: [openstack-dev] [tripleo][heat][ironic] Heat Ironic resources and ready state orchestration

2014-09-17 Thread Dmitry Tantsur
On Wed, 2014-09-17 at 10:36 +0100, Steven Hardy wrote: On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 02:06:59PM -0700, Devananda van der Veen wrote: On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 12:42 PM, Zane Bitter zbit...@redhat.com wrote: On 16/09/14 15:24, Devananda van der Veen wrote: On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 11:44 AM, Zane

Re: [openstack-dev] [tripleo][heat][ironic] Heat Ironic resources and ready state orchestration

2014-09-16 Thread Devananda van der Veen
On Sep 15, 2014 8:20 AM, James Slagle james.sla...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 7:44 AM, Steven Hardy sha...@redhat.com wrote: All, Starting this thread as a follow-up to a strongly negative reaction by the Ironic PTL to my patches[1] adding initial Heat-Ironic integration,

Re: [openstack-dev] [tripleo][heat][ironic] Heat Ironic resources and ready state orchestration

2014-09-16 Thread Devananda van der Veen
On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 10:51 AM, Jay Faulkner j...@jvf.cc wrote: Steven, It's important to note that two of the blueprints you reference: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ironic/+spec/drac-raid-mgmt https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ironic/+spec/drac-hw-discovery are both very unlikely to

Re: [openstack-dev] [tripleo][heat][ironic] Heat Ironic resources and ready state orchestration

2014-09-16 Thread Devananda van der Veen
On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 9:00 AM, Steven Hardy sha...@redhat.com wrote: For example, today, I've been looking at the steps required for driving autodiscovery: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/Ironic-PoCDiscovery-Juno Driving this process looks a lot like application orchestration: 1. Take

Re: [openstack-dev] [tripleo][heat][ironic] Heat Ironic resources and ready state orchestration

2014-09-16 Thread Devananda van der Veen
On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 1:08 PM, Steven Hardy sha...@redhat.com wrote: On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 05:51:43PM +, Jay Faulkner wrote: Steven, It's important to note that two of the blueprints you reference: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ironic/+spec/drac-raid-mgmt

Re: [openstack-dev] [tripleo][heat][ironic] Heat Ironic resources and ready state orchestration

2014-09-16 Thread Zane Bitter
On 16/09/14 13:56, Devananda van der Veen wrote: On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 9:00 AM, Steven Hardy sha...@redhat.com wrote: For example, today, I've been looking at the steps required for driving autodiscovery: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/Ironic-PoCDiscovery-Juno Driving this process looks a

Re: [openstack-dev] [tripleo][heat][ironic] Heat Ironic resources and ready state orchestration

2014-09-16 Thread Zane Bitter
On 16/09/14 13:54, Devananda van der Veen wrote: On Sep 15, 2014 8:20 AM, James Slaglejames.sla...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 7:44 AM, Steven Hardysha...@redhat.com wrote: The initial assumption is that there is some discovery step (either automatic or static generation of

Re: [openstack-dev] [tripleo][heat][ironic] Heat Ironic resources and ready state orchestration

2014-09-16 Thread Devananda van der Veen
On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 11:57 AM, Zane Bitter zbit...@redhat.com wrote: On 16/09/14 13:54, Devananda van der Veen wrote: On Sep 15, 2014 8:20 AM, James Slaglejames.sla...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 7:44 AM, Steven Hardysha...@redhat.com wrote: The initial assumption is

Re: [openstack-dev] [tripleo][heat][ironic] Heat Ironic resources and ready state orchestration

2014-09-16 Thread Devananda van der Veen
On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 11:44 AM, Zane Bitter zbit...@redhat.com wrote: On 16/09/14 13:56, Devananda van der Veen wrote: On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 9:00 AM, Steven Hardy sha...@redhat.com wrote: For example, today, I've been looking at the steps required for driving autodiscovery:

Re: [openstack-dev] [tripleo][heat][ironic] Heat Ironic resources and ready state orchestration

2014-09-16 Thread Zane Bitter
On 16/09/14 15:24, Devananda van der Veen wrote: On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 11:44 AM, Zane Bitter zbit...@redhat.com wrote: On 16/09/14 13:56, Devananda van der Veen wrote: On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 9:00 AM, Steven Hardy sha...@redhat.com wrote: For example, today, I've been looking at the steps

Re: [openstack-dev] [tripleo][heat][ironic] Heat Ironic resources and ready state orchestration

2014-09-15 Thread James Slagle
On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 7:44 AM, Steven Hardy sha...@redhat.com wrote: All, Starting this thread as a follow-up to a strongly negative reaction by the Ironic PTL to my patches[1] adding initial Heat-Ironic integration, and subsequent very detailed justification and discussion of why they may

Re: [openstack-dev] [tripleo][heat][ironic] Heat Ironic resources and ready state orchestration

2014-09-15 Thread Steven Hardy
On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 11:15:21AM -0400, James Slagle wrote: On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 7:44 AM, Steven Hardy sha...@redhat.com wrote: All, Starting this thread as a follow-up to a strongly negative reaction by the Ironic PTL to my patches[1] adding initial Heat-Ironic integration, and

Re: [openstack-dev] [tripleo][heat][ironic] Heat Ironic resources and ready state orchestration

2014-09-15 Thread Keith Basil
On Sep 15, 2014, at 12:00 PM, Steven Hardy wrote: On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 11:15:21AM -0400, James Slagle wrote: On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 7:44 AM, Steven Hardy sha...@redhat.com wrote: All, Starting this thread as a follow-up to a strongly negative reaction by the Ironic PTL to my patches[1]

Re: [openstack-dev] [tripleo][heat][ironic] Heat Ironic resources and ready state orchestration

2014-09-15 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from James Slagle's message of 2014-09-15 08:15:21 -0700: On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 7:44 AM, Steven Hardy sha...@redhat.com wrote: All, Starting this thread as a follow-up to a strongly negative reaction by the Ironic PTL to my patches[1] adding initial Heat-Ironic integration, and

Re: [openstack-dev] [tripleo][heat][ironic] Heat Ironic resources and ready state orchestration

2014-09-15 Thread Steven Hardy
On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 09:50:24AM -0700, Clint Byrum wrote: Excerpts from Steven Hardy's message of 2014-09-15 04:44:24 -0700: All, Starting this thread as a follow-up to a strongly negative reaction by the Ironic PTL to my patches[1] adding initial Heat-Ironic integration, and

Re: [openstack-dev] [tripleo][heat][ironic] Heat Ironic resources and ready state orchestration

2014-09-15 Thread Jay Faulkner
Steven, It's important to note that two of the blueprints you reference: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ironic/+spec/drac-raid-mgmt https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ironic/+spec/drac-hw-discovery are both very unlikely to land in Ironic -- these are configuration and discovery pieces that

Re: [openstack-dev] [tripleo][heat][ironic] Heat Ironic resources and ready state orchestration

2014-09-15 Thread James Slagle
On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 12:59 PM, Clint Byrum cl...@fewbar.com wrote: Excerpts from James Slagle's message of 2014-09-15 08:15:21 -0700: On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 7:44 AM, Steven Hardy sha...@redhat.com wrote: Following discovery, but before an undercloud deploying OpenStack onto the nodes,

Re: [openstack-dev] [tripleo][heat][ironic] Heat Ironic resources and ready state orchestration

2014-09-15 Thread Jim Rollenhagen
On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 12:44:24PM +0100, Steven Hardy wrote: All, Starting this thread as a follow-up to a strongly negative reaction by the Ironic PTL to my patches[1] adding initial Heat-Ironic integration, and subsequent very detailed justification and discussion of why they may be

Re: [openstack-dev] [tripleo][heat][ironic] Heat Ironic resources and ready state orchestration

2014-09-15 Thread Dmitry Tantsur
On Mon, 2014-09-15 at 11:04 -0700, Jim Rollenhagen wrote: On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 12:44:24PM +0100, Steven Hardy wrote: All, Starting this thread as a follow-up to a strongly negative reaction by the Ironic PTL to my patches[1] adding initial Heat-Ironic integration, and subsequent

Re: [openstack-dev] [tripleo][heat][ironic] Heat Ironic resources and ready state orchestration

2014-09-15 Thread Zane Bitter
On 15/09/14 12:00, Steven Hardy wrote: For example, today, I've been looking at the steps required for driving autodiscovery: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/Ironic-PoCDiscovery-Juno Driving this process looks a lot like application orchestration: 1. Take some input (IPMI credentials and MAC

Re: [openstack-dev] [tripleo][heat][ironic] Heat Ironic resources and ready state orchestration

2014-09-15 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Steven Hardy's message of 2014-09-15 10:10:05 -0700: On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 09:50:24AM -0700, Clint Byrum wrote: Excerpts from Steven Hardy's message of 2014-09-15 04:44:24 -0700: All, Starting this thread as a follow-up to a strongly negative reaction by the Ironic

Re: [openstack-dev] [tripleo][heat][ironic] Heat Ironic resources and ready state orchestration

2014-09-15 Thread Steven Hardy
On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 05:51:43PM +, Jay Faulkner wrote: Steven, It's important to note that two of the blueprints you reference: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ironic/+spec/drac-raid-mgmt https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ironic/+spec/drac-hw-discovery are both very unlikely to

Re: [openstack-dev] [tripleo][heat][ironic] Heat Ironic resources and ready state orchestration

2014-09-15 Thread Jay Pipes
On 09/15/2014 04:08 PM, Steven Hardy wrote: On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 05:51:43PM +, Jay Faulkner wrote: Steven, It's important to note that two of the blueprints you reference: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ironic/+spec/drac-raid-mgmt