Re: [openstack-dev] An alternative approach to enforcing "expected election behaviour"

2014-06-18 Thread Eoghan Glynn
> James E. Blair wrote: > > I think our recent experience has shown that the fundamental problem is > > that not all of the members of our community knew what kind of behavior > > we expected around elections. That's understandable -- we had hardly > > articulated it. I think the best solution t

Re: [openstack-dev] An alternative approach to enforcing "expected election behaviour"

2014-06-18 Thread Thierry Carrez
James E. Blair wrote: > I think our recent experience has shown that the fundamental problem is > that not all of the members of our community knew what kind of behavior > we expected around elections. That's understandable -- we had hardly > articulated it. I think the best solution to that is t

Re: [openstack-dev] An alternative approach to enforcing "expected election behaviour"

2014-06-17 Thread James E. Blair
Eoghan Glynn writes: > TL;DR: how about we adopt a "soft enforcement" model, relying >on sound judgement and good faith within the community? Thank you very much for bringing this up and proposing it to the TC. As others have suggested, having a concrete alternative is very helpful in

Re: [openstack-dev] An alternative approach to enforcing "expected election behaviour"

2014-06-16 Thread Eoghan Glynn
> On Mon, 2014-06-16 at 10:56 +0100, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: > > On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 05:04:51AM -0400, Eoghan Glynn wrote: > > > How about we rely instead on the values and attributes that > > > actually make our community strong? > > > > > > Specifically: maturity, honesty, and a self-cor

Re: [openstack-dev] An alternative approach to enforcing "expected election behaviour"

2014-06-16 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 9:41 AM, Mark McLoughlin wrote: > On Mon, 2014-06-16 at 10:56 +0100, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: >> On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 05:04:51AM -0400, Eoghan Glynn wrote: >> > How about we rely instead on the values and attributes that >> > actually make our community strong? >> > >>

Re: [openstack-dev] An alternative approach to enforcing "expected election behaviour"

2014-06-16 Thread Mark McLoughlin
On Mon, 2014-06-16 at 10:56 +0100, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: > On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 05:04:51AM -0400, Eoghan Glynn wrote: > > How about we rely instead on the values and attributes that > > actually make our community strong? > > > > Specifically: maturity, honesty, and a self-correcting nature

Re: [openstack-dev] An alternative approach to enforcing "expected election behaviour"

2014-06-16 Thread Daniel P. Berrange
On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 05:04:51AM -0400, Eoghan Glynn wrote: > How about we rely instead on the values and attributes that > actually make our community strong? > > Specifically: maturity, honesty, and a self-correcting nature. > > How about we simply require that each candidate for a TC or PTL