Re: [openstack-dev] DevStack program change

2014-08-05 Thread Dean Troyer
Thanks for the feedback everyone, I've proposed the change in
https://review.openstack.org/112090.

dt

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Re: [openstack-dev] DevStack program change

2014-08-04 Thread Thierry Carrez
Matthew Treinish wrote:
 On Fri, Aug 01, 2014 at 03:50:53PM -0500, Anne Gentle wrote:
 On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 10:48 AM, Dean Troyer dtro...@gmail.com wrote:

 I propose we de-program DevStack and consolidate it into the QA program.
  Some of my concerns about doing this in the beginning have proven to be a
 non-issue in practice.  Also, I believe a program's focus can and should be
 wider than we have implemented up to now and this a step toward
 consolidating narrowly defined programs.


 Sounds like a good idea to me, as long as QA PTL Matt is good with it.
 Thanks Dean for your service!

 Anne
 
 Yes, I fully support this idea as well. The scope of the 2 programs' missions
 are very much aligned, and the two teams are already working closely together.
 So I think that consolidating the DevStack progam into the QA program is a 
 good
 idea moving forward.

I'm all for it.

The only reason why we didn't do that in the first place was that the QA
program didn't want devstack (and considered its maintenance was not
part of its mission). If that position changed, merging the two sounds
good. The teams working on it are certainly mostly the same people anyway.

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Re: [openstack-dev] DevStack program change

2014-08-04 Thread Russell Bryant
On 08/04/2014 04:23 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote:
 Matthew Treinish wrote:
 On Fri, Aug 01, 2014 at 03:50:53PM -0500, Anne Gentle wrote:
 On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 10:48 AM, Dean Troyer dtro...@gmail.com wrote:

 I propose we de-program DevStack and consolidate it into the QA program.
  Some of my concerns about doing this in the beginning have proven to be a
 non-issue in practice.  Also, I believe a program's focus can and should be
 wider than we have implemented up to now and this a step toward
 consolidating narrowly defined programs.


 Sounds like a good idea to me, as long as QA PTL Matt is good with it.
 Thanks Dean for your service!

 Anne

 Yes, I fully support this idea as well. The scope of the 2 programs' missions
 are very much aligned, and the two teams are already working closely 
 together.
 So I think that consolidating the DevStack progam into the QA program is a 
 good
 idea moving forward.
 
 I'm all for it.
 
 The only reason why we didn't do that in the first place was that the QA
 program didn't want devstack (and considered its maintenance was not
 part of its mission). If that position changed, merging the two sounds
 good. The teams working on it are certainly mostly the same people anyway.
 

+1

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Re: [openstack-dev] DevStack program change

2014-08-03 Thread Matthew Treinish
On Fri, Aug 01, 2014 at 03:50:53PM -0500, Anne Gentle wrote:
 On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 10:48 AM, Dean Troyer dtro...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  I propose we de-program DevStack and consolidate it into the QA program.
   Some of my concerns about doing this in the beginning have proven to be a
  non-issue in practice.  Also, I believe a program's focus can and should be
  wider than we have implemented up to now and this a step toward
  consolidating narrowly defined programs.
 
 
 Sounds like a good idea to me, as long as QA PTL Matt is good with it.
 Thanks Dean for your service!
 
 Anne

Yes, I fully support this idea as well. The scope of the 2 programs' missions
are very much aligned, and the two teams are already working closely together.
So I think that consolidating the DevStack progam into the QA program is a good
idea moving forward.

 
 
  I read the QA mission statement to already include DevStack's purpose so
  no change should be required there.  I'll propose the governance changes
  following a few days of discussion.
 
  This is purely a program-level change, I do not anticipate changes to the
  DevStack project itself.
 


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Re: [openstack-dev] DevStack program change

2014-08-01 Thread Jay Pipes

On 08/01/2014 11:48 AM, Dean Troyer wrote:

I propose we de-program DevStack and consolidate it into the QA
program. Some of my concerns about doing this in the beginning have
proven to be a non-issue in practice.  Also, I believe a program's
focus can and should be wider than we have implemented up to now and
this a step toward consolidating narrowly defined programs.

I read the QA mission statement to already include DevStack's purpose
so no change should be required there.  I'll propose the governance
changes following a few days of discussion.

This is purely a program-level change, I do not anticipate changes to
 the DevStack project itself.

dt (soon-to-be-former?) DevStack PTL


+1

Thanks for bringing up this topic and being mature enough to recognize 
that may not be good reasons any more for having a separate program for 
DevStack.


It's important, as a mature community, that we have the ability to 
change course and revisit prior decisions based on real-world experience.


Best,
-jay

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Re: [openstack-dev] DevStack program change

2014-08-01 Thread Anne Gentle
On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 10:48 AM, Dean Troyer dtro...@gmail.com wrote:

 I propose we de-program DevStack and consolidate it into the QA program.
  Some of my concerns about doing this in the beginning have proven to be a
 non-issue in practice.  Also, I believe a program's focus can and should be
 wider than we have implemented up to now and this a step toward
 consolidating narrowly defined programs.


Sounds like a good idea to me, as long as QA PTL Matt is good with it.
Thanks Dean for your service!

Anne


 I read the QA mission statement to already include DevStack's purpose so
 no change should be required there.  I'll propose the governance changes
 following a few days of discussion.

 This is purely a program-level change, I do not anticipate changes to the
 DevStack project itself.

 dt
 (soon-to-be-former?) DevStack PTL

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