Re: [openstack-dev] Reg : Security groups implementation using openflows in quantum ovs plugin
On Sat, Nov 30, 2013 at 6:32 PM, Édouard Thuleau thul...@gmail.com wrote: And what do you think about the performance issue I talked ? Do you have any thought to improve wildcarding to use megaflow feature ? I have invested a little further, here is my environment X1 (10.0.5.1) --- OVS BR --- X2 (10.0.5.2) I have set up several flows to make port 5000 open on X2: $ sudo ovs-ofctl dump-flows br NXST_FLOW reply (xid=0x4): cookie=0x0, duration=49.672s, table=0, n_packets=7, n_bytes=496, idle_age=6, priority=256,tcp,nw_src=10.0.5.2,tp_src=5000 actions=NORMAL cookie=0x0, duration=29.854s, table=0, n_packets=8, n_bytes=562, idle_age=6, priority=256,tcp,nw_dst=10.0.5.2,tp_dst=5000 actions=NORMAL cookie=0x0, duration=2014.523s, table=0, n_packets=96, n_bytes=4032, idle_age=35, priority=512,arp actions=NORMAL cookie=0x0, duration=2006.462s, table=0, n_packets=51, n_bytes=4283, idle_age=40, priority=0 actions=drop and here is the kernel flows after 2 connections created: $ sudo ovs-dpctl dump-flows skb_priority(0),in_port(8),eth(src=2e:19:44:50:9d:17,dst=ae:7f:28:4f:14:ec),eth_type(0x0800),ipv4(src= 10.0.5.1/255.255.255.255,dst=10.0.5.2/255.255.255.255,proto=6/0xff,tos=0/0,ttl=64/0,frag=no/0xff),tcp(src=35789,dst=5000), packets:1, bytes:66, used:2.892s, flags:., actions:10 skb_priority(0),in_port(8),eth(src=2e:19:44:50:9d:17,dst=ae:7f:28:4f:14:ec),eth_type(0x0800),ipv4(src= 10.0.5.1/255.255.255.255,dst=10.0.5.2/255.255.255.255,proto=6/0xff,tos=0/0,ttl=64/0,frag=no/0xff),tcp(src=35775,dst=5000), packets:0, bytes:0, used:never, actions:10 skb_priority(0),in_port(10),eth(src=ae:7f:28:4f:14:ec,dst=2e:19:44:50:9d:17),eth_type(0x0800),ipv4(src= 10.0.5.2/255.255.255.255,dst=10.0.5.1/0.0.0.0,proto=6/0xff,tos=0/0,ttl=64/0,frag=no/0xff),tcp(src=5000/0x,dst=35789/0), packets:1, bytes:78, used:1.344s, flags:P., actions:8 conclusion: mac-src,mac-dst can't be wildcard, because they are used by l2 bridging and mac learning. ip-src and port-src can't be wildcard only ip-dst and port-dst can be wildcard I don't know why ip-src and port-src can't be wildcard, maybe I just hit an ovs bug. Édouard. On Fri, Nov 29, 2013 at 1:11 PM, Zang MingJie zealot0...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Nov 29, 2013 at 2:25 PM, Jian Wen jian@canonical.com wrote: I don't think we can implement a stateful firewall[1] now. I don't think we need a stateful firewall, a stateless one should work well. If the stateful conntrack is completed in the future, we can also take benefit from it. Once connection tracking capability[2] is added to the Linux OVS, we could start to implement the ovs-firewall-driver blueprint. [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stateful_firewall [2] http://wiki.xenproject.org/wiki/Xen_Development_Projects#Add_connection_tracking_capability_to_the_Linux_OVS On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 2:23 AM, Mike Wilson geekinu...@gmail.com wrote: Adding Jun to this thread since gmail is failing him. On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 10:44 AM, Amir Sadoughi amir.sadou...@rackspace.com wrote: Yes, my work has been on ML2 with neutron-openvswitch-agent. I’m interested to see what Jun Park has. I might have something ready before he is available again, but would like to collaborate regardless. Amir On Nov 19, 2013, at 3:31 AM, Kanthi P pavuluri.kan...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, Thanks for the response! Amir,Mike: Is your implementation being done according to ML2 plugin Regards, Kanthi On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 1:43 AM, Mike Wilson geekinu...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Kanthi, Just to reiterate what Kyle said, we do have an internal implementation using flows that looks very similar to security groups. Jun Park was the guy that wrote this and is looking to get it upstreamed. I think he'll be back in the office late next week. I'll point him to this thread when he's back. -Mike On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 3:39 PM, Kyle Mestery (kmestery) kmest...@cisco.com wrote: On Nov 18, 2013, at 4:26 PM, Kanthi P pavuluri.kan...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, We are planning to implement quantum security groups using openflows for ovs plugin instead of iptables which is the case now. Doing so we can avoid the extra linux bridge which is connected between the vnet device and the ovs bridge, which is given as a work around since ovs bridge is not compatible with iptables. We are planning to create a blueprint and work on it. Could you please share your views on this Hi Kanthi: Overall, this idea is interesting and removing those extra bridges would certainly be nice. Some people at Bluehost gave a talk at the Summit [1] in which they explained they have done something similar, you may want to reach out to them since they have code for this internally already. The OVS plugin is in feature freeze during Icehouse, and will be deprecated in favor of ML2 [2] at the end of Icehouse. I would advise you
Re: [openstack-dev] Reg : Security groups implementation using openflows in quantum ovs plugin
And what do you think about the performance issue I talked ? Do you have any thought to improve wildcarding to use megaflow feature ? Édouard. On Fri, Nov 29, 2013 at 1:11 PM, Zang MingJie zealot0...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Nov 29, 2013 at 2:25 PM, Jian Wen jian@canonical.com wrote: I don't think we can implement a stateful firewall[1] now. I don't think we need a stateful firewall, a stateless one should work well. If the stateful conntrack is completed in the future, we can also take benefit from it. Once connection tracking capability[2] is added to the Linux OVS, we could start to implement the ovs-firewall-driver blueprint. [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stateful_firewall [2] http://wiki.xenproject.org/wiki/Xen_Development_Projects#Add_connection_tracking_capability_to_the_Linux_OVS On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 2:23 AM, Mike Wilson geekinu...@gmail.com wrote: Adding Jun to this thread since gmail is failing him. On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 10:44 AM, Amir Sadoughi amir.sadou...@rackspace.com wrote: Yes, my work has been on ML2 with neutron-openvswitch-agent. I’m interested to see what Jun Park has. I might have something ready before he is available again, but would like to collaborate regardless. Amir On Nov 19, 2013, at 3:31 AM, Kanthi P pavuluri.kan...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, Thanks for the response! Amir,Mike: Is your implementation being done according to ML2 plugin Regards, Kanthi On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 1:43 AM, Mike Wilson geekinu...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Kanthi, Just to reiterate what Kyle said, we do have an internal implementation using flows that looks very similar to security groups. Jun Park was the guy that wrote this and is looking to get it upstreamed. I think he'll be back in the office late next week. I'll point him to this thread when he's back. -Mike On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 3:39 PM, Kyle Mestery (kmestery) kmest...@cisco.com wrote: On Nov 18, 2013, at 4:26 PM, Kanthi P pavuluri.kan...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, We are planning to implement quantum security groups using openflows for ovs plugin instead of iptables which is the case now. Doing so we can avoid the extra linux bridge which is connected between the vnet device and the ovs bridge, which is given as a work around since ovs bridge is not compatible with iptables. We are planning to create a blueprint and work on it. Could you please share your views on this Hi Kanthi: Overall, this idea is interesting and removing those extra bridges would certainly be nice. Some people at Bluehost gave a talk at the Summit [1] in which they explained they have done something similar, you may want to reach out to them since they have code for this internally already. The OVS plugin is in feature freeze during Icehouse, and will be deprecated in favor of ML2 [2] at the end of Icehouse. I would advise you to retarget your work at ML2 when running with the OVS agent instead. The Neutron team will not accept new features into the OVS plugin anymore. Thanks, Kyle [1] http://www.openstack.org/summit/openstack-summit-hong-kong-2013/session-videos/presentation/towards-truly-open-and-commoditized-software-defined-networks-in-openstack [2] https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Neutron/ML2 Thanks, Kanthi ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev -- Cheers, Jian ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
Re: [openstack-dev] Reg : Security groups implementation using openflows in quantum ovs plugin
On Fri, Nov 29, 2013 at 2:25 PM, Jian Wen jian@canonical.com wrote: I don't think we can implement a stateful firewall[1] now. I don't think we need a stateful firewall, a stateless one should work well. If the stateful conntrack is completed in the future, we can also take benefit from it. Once connection tracking capability[2] is added to the Linux OVS, we could start to implement the ovs-firewall-driver blueprint. [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stateful_firewall [2] http://wiki.xenproject.org/wiki/Xen_Development_Projects#Add_connection_tracking_capability_to_the_Linux_OVS On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 2:23 AM, Mike Wilson geekinu...@gmail.com wrote: Adding Jun to this thread since gmail is failing him. On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 10:44 AM, Amir Sadoughi amir.sadou...@rackspace.com wrote: Yes, my work has been on ML2 with neutron-openvswitch-agent. I’m interested to see what Jun Park has. I might have something ready before he is available again, but would like to collaborate regardless. Amir On Nov 19, 2013, at 3:31 AM, Kanthi P pavuluri.kan...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, Thanks for the response! Amir,Mike: Is your implementation being done according to ML2 plugin Regards, Kanthi On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 1:43 AM, Mike Wilson geekinu...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Kanthi, Just to reiterate what Kyle said, we do have an internal implementation using flows that looks very similar to security groups. Jun Park was the guy that wrote this and is looking to get it upstreamed. I think he'll be back in the office late next week. I'll point him to this thread when he's back. -Mike On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 3:39 PM, Kyle Mestery (kmestery) kmest...@cisco.com wrote: On Nov 18, 2013, at 4:26 PM, Kanthi P pavuluri.kan...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, We are planning to implement quantum security groups using openflows for ovs plugin instead of iptables which is the case now. Doing so we can avoid the extra linux bridge which is connected between the vnet device and the ovs bridge, which is given as a work around since ovs bridge is not compatible with iptables. We are planning to create a blueprint and work on it. Could you please share your views on this Hi Kanthi: Overall, this idea is interesting and removing those extra bridges would certainly be nice. Some people at Bluehost gave a talk at the Summit [1] in which they explained they have done something similar, you may want to reach out to them since they have code for this internally already. The OVS plugin is in feature freeze during Icehouse, and will be deprecated in favor of ML2 [2] at the end of Icehouse. I would advise you to retarget your work at ML2 when running with the OVS agent instead. The Neutron team will not accept new features into the OVS plugin anymore. Thanks, Kyle [1] http://www.openstack.org/summit/openstack-summit-hong-kong-2013/session-videos/presentation/towards-truly-open-and-commoditized-software-defined-networks-in-openstack [2] https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Neutron/ML2 Thanks, Kanthi ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev -- Cheers, Jian ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
Re: [openstack-dev] Reg : Security groups implementation using openflows in quantum ovs plugin
I don't think we can implement a stateful firewall[1] now. Once connection tracking capability[2] is added to the Linux OVS, we could start to implement the ovs-firewall-driver blueprint. [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stateful_firewall [2] http://wiki.xenproject.org/wiki/Xen_Development_Projects#Add_connection_tracking_capability_to_the_Linux_OVS On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 2:23 AM, Mike Wilson geekinu...@gmail.com wrote: Adding Jun to this thread since gmail is failing him. On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 10:44 AM, Amir Sadoughi amir.sadou...@rackspace.com wrote: Yes, my work has been on ML2 with neutron-openvswitch-agent. I’m interested to see what Jun Park has. I might have something ready before he is available again, but would like to collaborate regardless. Amir On Nov 19, 2013, at 3:31 AM, Kanthi P pavuluri.kan...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, Thanks for the response! Amir,Mike: Is your implementation being done according to ML2 plugin Regards, Kanthi On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 1:43 AM, Mike Wilson geekinu...@gmail.comwrote: Hi Kanthi, Just to reiterate what Kyle said, we do have an internal implementation using flows that looks very similar to security groups. Jun Park was the guy that wrote this and is looking to get it upstreamed. I think he'll be back in the office late next week. I'll point him to this thread when he's back. -Mike On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 3:39 PM, Kyle Mestery (kmestery) kmest...@cisco.com wrote: On Nov 18, 2013, at 4:26 PM, Kanthi P pavuluri.kan...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, We are planning to implement quantum security groups using openflows for ovs plugin instead of iptables which is the case now. Doing so we can avoid the extra linux bridge which is connected between the vnet device and the ovs bridge, which is given as a work around since ovs bridge is not compatible with iptables. We are planning to create a blueprint and work on it. Could you please share your views on this Hi Kanthi: Overall, this idea is interesting and removing those extra bridges would certainly be nice. Some people at Bluehost gave a talk at the Summit [1] in which they explained they have done something similar, you may want to reach out to them since they have code for this internally already. The OVS plugin is in feature freeze during Icehouse, and will be deprecated in favor of ML2 [2] at the end of Icehouse. I would advise you to retarget your work at ML2 when running with the OVS agent instead. The Neutron team will not accept new features into the OVS plugin anymore. Thanks, Kyle [1] http://www.openstack.org/summit/openstack-summit-hong-kong-2013/session-videos/presentation/towards-truly-open-and-commoditized-software-defined-networks-in-openstack [2] https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Neutron/ML2 Thanks, Kanthi ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev -- Cheers, Jian ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
Re: [openstack-dev] Reg : Security groups implementation using openflows in quantum ovs plugin
Adding Jun to this thread since gmail is failing him. On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 10:44 AM, Amir Sadoughi amir.sadou...@rackspace.com wrote: Yes, my work has been on ML2 with neutron-openvswitch-agent. I’m interested to see what Jun Park has. I might have something ready before he is available again, but would like to collaborate regardless. Amir On Nov 19, 2013, at 3:31 AM, Kanthi P pavuluri.kan...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, Thanks for the response! Amir,Mike: Is your implementation being done according to ML2 plugin Regards, Kanthi On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 1:43 AM, Mike Wilson geekinu...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Kanthi, Just to reiterate what Kyle said, we do have an internal implementation using flows that looks very similar to security groups. Jun Park was the guy that wrote this and is looking to get it upstreamed. I think he'll be back in the office late next week. I'll point him to this thread when he's back. -Mike On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 3:39 PM, Kyle Mestery (kmestery) kmest...@cisco.com wrote: On Nov 18, 2013, at 4:26 PM, Kanthi P pavuluri.kan...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, We are planning to implement quantum security groups using openflows for ovs plugin instead of iptables which is the case now. Doing so we can avoid the extra linux bridge which is connected between the vnet device and the ovs bridge, which is given as a work around since ovs bridge is not compatible with iptables. We are planning to create a blueprint and work on it. Could you please share your views on this Hi Kanthi: Overall, this idea is interesting and removing those extra bridges would certainly be nice. Some people at Bluehost gave a talk at the Summit [1] in which they explained they have done something similar, you may want to reach out to them since they have code for this internally already. The OVS plugin is in feature freeze during Icehouse, and will be deprecated in favor of ML2 [2] at the end of Icehouse. I would advise you to retarget your work at ML2 when running with the OVS agent instead. The Neutron team will not accept new features into the OVS plugin anymore. Thanks, Kyle [1] http://www.openstack.org/summit/openstack-summit-hong-kong-2013/session-videos/presentation/towards-truly-open-and-commoditized-software-defined-networks-in-openstack [2] https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Neutron/ML2 Thanks, Kanthi ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
Re: [openstack-dev] Reg : Security groups implementation using openflows in quantum ovs plugin
Hi All, Thanks for the response! Amir,Mike: Is your implementation being done according to ML2 plugin Regards, Kanthi On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 1:43 AM, Mike Wilson geekinu...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Kanthi, Just to reiterate what Kyle said, we do have an internal implementation using flows that looks very similar to security groups. Jun Park was the guy that wrote this and is looking to get it upstreamed. I think he'll be back in the office late next week. I'll point him to this thread when he's back. -Mike On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 3:39 PM, Kyle Mestery (kmestery) kmest...@cisco.com wrote: On Nov 18, 2013, at 4:26 PM, Kanthi P pavuluri.kan...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, We are planning to implement quantum security groups using openflows for ovs plugin instead of iptables which is the case now. Doing so we can avoid the extra linux bridge which is connected between the vnet device and the ovs bridge, which is given as a work around since ovs bridge is not compatible with iptables. We are planning to create a blueprint and work on it. Could you please share your views on this Hi Kanthi: Overall, this idea is interesting and removing those extra bridges would certainly be nice. Some people at Bluehost gave a talk at the Summit [1] in which they explained they have done something similar, you may want to reach out to them since they have code for this internally already. The OVS plugin is in feature freeze during Icehouse, and will be deprecated in favor of ML2 [2] at the end of Icehouse. I would advise you to retarget your work at ML2 when running with the OVS agent instead. The Neutron team will not accept new features into the OVS plugin anymore. Thanks, Kyle [1] http://www.openstack.org/summit/openstack-summit-hong-kong-2013/session-videos/presentation/towards-truly-open-and-commoditized-software-defined-networks-in-openstack [2] https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Neutron/ML2 Thanks, Kanthi ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
Re: [openstack-dev] Reg : Security groups implementation using openflows in quantum ovs plugin
Hi, It's an interesting feature. But just to understand, what do you blame to the actual implementation with iptables and linux bridge? The OVS release 1.11.0 implements a new feature calls 'megaflows' which reduce the number of kernel/usespace crossings. Actually, OVS neutron agent uses simple default normal flow (simple mac learning switch) which the wildcarding (use by megaflow) will be very good (just the L2 headers will be matched). But if we implement security group as OVS flows, the performance will be reduced. Wildcarding will be worse (L2, L3, and L4headers will be mateched). Here [1] and [2] a post from the OVS mailing list that explain that. Perhaps we can create security group OVS flow smarter to improve the wilcarding. Another improvement, I see, is the simplification of the interfaces on the compute node. All interfaces qbr, qvo and qvb will disappear. But another simple improvement about that could be to use only one Linux bridge by network instead of one per VNIC and continous to use Linux bridge and iptables. Another problem is the OVS flows are not stateful [3] but is it necessary? [1] http://www.mail-archive.com/discuss@openvswitch.org/msg07715.html [2] http://www.mail-archive.com/discuss@openvswitch.org/msg07582.html [3] http://www.mail-archive.com/discuss@openvswitch.org/msg01919.html Édouard. On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 10:31 AM, Kanthi P pavuluri.kan...@gmail.comwrote: Hi All, Thanks for the response! Amir,Mike: Is your implementation being done according to ML2 plugin Regards, Kanthi On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 1:43 AM, Mike Wilson geekinu...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Kanthi, Just to reiterate what Kyle said, we do have an internal implementation using flows that looks very similar to security groups. Jun Park was the guy that wrote this and is looking to get it upstreamed. I think he'll be back in the office late next week. I'll point him to this thread when he's back. -Mike On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 3:39 PM, Kyle Mestery (kmestery) kmest...@cisco.com wrote: On Nov 18, 2013, at 4:26 PM, Kanthi P pavuluri.kan...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, We are planning to implement quantum security groups using openflows for ovs plugin instead of iptables which is the case now. Doing so we can avoid the extra linux bridge which is connected between the vnet device and the ovs bridge, which is given as a work around since ovs bridge is not compatible with iptables. We are planning to create a blueprint and work on it. Could you please share your views on this Hi Kanthi: Overall, this idea is interesting and removing those extra bridges would certainly be nice. Some people at Bluehost gave a talk at the Summit [1] in which they explained they have done something similar, you may want to reach out to them since they have code for this internally already. The OVS plugin is in feature freeze during Icehouse, and will be deprecated in favor of ML2 [2] at the end of Icehouse. I would advise you to retarget your work at ML2 when running with the OVS agent instead. The Neutron team will not accept new features into the OVS plugin anymore. Thanks, Kyle [1] http://www.openstack.org/summit/openstack-summit-hong-kong-2013/session-videos/presentation/towards-truly-open-and-commoditized-software-defined-networks-in-openstack [2] https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Neutron/ML2 Thanks, Kanthi ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
Re: [openstack-dev] Reg : Security groups implementation using openflows in quantum ovs plugin
The current implementation is fairly generic, the plan is to get it into the ML2 plugin. -Mike On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 2:31 AM, Kanthi P pavuluri.kan...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, Thanks for the response! Amir,Mike: Is your implementation being done according to ML2 plugin Regards, Kanthi On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 1:43 AM, Mike Wilson geekinu...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Kanthi, Just to reiterate what Kyle said, we do have an internal implementation using flows that looks very similar to security groups. Jun Park was the guy that wrote this and is looking to get it upstreamed. I think he'll be back in the office late next week. I'll point him to this thread when he's back. -Mike On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 3:39 PM, Kyle Mestery (kmestery) kmest...@cisco.com wrote: On Nov 18, 2013, at 4:26 PM, Kanthi P pavuluri.kan...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, We are planning to implement quantum security groups using openflows for ovs plugin instead of iptables which is the case now. Doing so we can avoid the extra linux bridge which is connected between the vnet device and the ovs bridge, which is given as a work around since ovs bridge is not compatible with iptables. We are planning to create a blueprint and work on it. Could you please share your views on this Hi Kanthi: Overall, this idea is interesting and removing those extra bridges would certainly be nice. Some people at Bluehost gave a talk at the Summit [1] in which they explained they have done something similar, you may want to reach out to them since they have code for this internally already. The OVS plugin is in feature freeze during Icehouse, and will be deprecated in favor of ML2 [2] at the end of Icehouse. I would advise you to retarget your work at ML2 when running with the OVS agent instead. The Neutron team will not accept new features into the OVS plugin anymore. Thanks, Kyle [1] http://www.openstack.org/summit/openstack-summit-hong-kong-2013/session-videos/presentation/towards-truly-open-and-commoditized-software-defined-networks-in-openstack [2] https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Neutron/ML2 Thanks, Kanthi ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
Re: [openstack-dev] Reg : Security groups implementation using openflows in quantum ovs plugin
Yes, my work has been on ML2 with neutron-openvswitch-agent. I’m interested to see what Jun Park has. I might have something ready before he is available again, but would like to collaborate regardless. Amir On Nov 19, 2013, at 3:31 AM, Kanthi P pavuluri.kan...@gmail.commailto:pavuluri.kan...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, Thanks for the response! Amir,Mike: Is your implementation being done according to ML2 plugin Regards, Kanthi On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 1:43 AM, Mike Wilson geekinu...@gmail.commailto:geekinu...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Kanthi, Just to reiterate what Kyle said, we do have an internal implementation using flows that looks very similar to security groups. Jun Park was the guy that wrote this and is looking to get it upstreamed. I think he'll be back in the office late next week. I'll point him to this thread when he's back. -Mike On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 3:39 PM, Kyle Mestery (kmestery) kmest...@cisco.commailto:kmest...@cisco.com wrote: On Nov 18, 2013, at 4:26 PM, Kanthi P pavuluri.kan...@gmail.commailto:pavuluri.kan...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, We are planning to implement quantum security groups using openflows for ovs plugin instead of iptables which is the case now. Doing so we can avoid the extra linux bridge which is connected between the vnet device and the ovs bridge, which is given as a work around since ovs bridge is not compatible with iptables. We are planning to create a blueprint and work on it. Could you please share your views on this Hi Kanthi: Overall, this idea is interesting and removing those extra bridges would certainly be nice. Some people at Bluehost gave a talk at the Summit [1] in which they explained they have done something similar, you may want to reach out to them since they have code for this internally already. The OVS plugin is in feature freeze during Icehouse, and will be deprecated in favor of ML2 [2] at the end of Icehouse. I would advise you to retarget your work at ML2 when running with the OVS agent instead. The Neutron team will not accept new features into the OVS plugin anymore. Thanks, Kyle [1] http://www.openstack.org/summit/openstack-summit-hong-kong-2013/session-videos/presentation/towards-truly-open-and-commoditized-software-defined-networks-in-openstack [2] https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Neutron/ML2 Thanks, Kanthi ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.orgmailto:OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.orgmailto:OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.orgmailto:OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.orgmailto:OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
Re: [openstack-dev] Reg : Security groups implementation using openflows in quantum ovs plugin
On Nov 18, 2013, at 4:26 PM, Kanthi P pavuluri.kan...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, We are planning to implement quantum security groups using openflows for ovs plugin instead of iptables which is the case now. Doing so we can avoid the extra linux bridge which is connected between the vnet device and the ovs bridge, which is given as a work around since ovs bridge is not compatible with iptables. We are planning to create a blueprint and work on it. Could you please share your views on this Hi Kanthi: Overall, this idea is interesting and removing those extra bridges would certainly be nice. Some people at Bluehost gave a talk at the Summit [1] in which they explained they have done something similar, you may want to reach out to them since they have code for this internally already. The OVS plugin is in feature freeze during Icehouse, and will be deprecated in favor of ML2 [2] at the end of Icehouse. I would advise you to retarget your work at ML2 when running with the OVS agent instead. The Neutron team will not accept new features into the OVS plugin anymore. Thanks, Kyle [1] http://www.openstack.org/summit/openstack-summit-hong-kong-2013/session-videos/presentation/towards-truly-open-and-commoditized-software-defined-networks-in-openstack [2] https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Neutron/ML2 Thanks, Kanthi ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
Re: [openstack-dev] Reg : Security groups implementation using openflows in quantum ovs plugin
Hi Kanthi, I’ve already started the implementation (prototype phase) of such a blueprint, ovs-firewall-driver https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/ovs-firewall-driver. Amir On Nov 18, 2013, at 4:26 PM, Kanthi P pavuluri.kan...@gmail.commailto:pavuluri.kan...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, We are planning to implement quantum security groups using openflows for ovs plugin instead of iptables which is the case now. Doing so we can avoid the extra linux bridge which is connected between the vnet device and the ovs bridge, which is given as a work around since ovs bridge is not compatible with iptables. We are planning to create a blueprint and work on it. Could you please share your views on this Thanks, Kanthi ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.orgmailto:OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
Re: [openstack-dev] Reg : Security groups implementation using openflows in quantum ovs plugin
Is the open flow rule stateful? On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 6:26 AM, Kanthi P pavuluri.kan...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, We are planning to implement quantum security groups using openflows for ovs plugin instead of iptables which is the case now. Doing so we can avoid the extra linux bridge which is connected between the vnet device and the ovs bridge, which is given as a work around since ovs bridge is not compatible with iptables. We are planning to create a blueprint and work on it. Could you please share your views on this Thanks, Kanthi ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
Re: [openstack-dev] Reg : Security groups implementation using openflows in quantum ovs plugin
Hi Kanthi, Just to reiterate what Kyle said, we do have an internal implementation using flows that looks very similar to security groups. Jun Park was the guy that wrote this and is looking to get it upstreamed. I think he'll be back in the office late next week. I'll point him to this thread when he's back. -Mike On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 3:39 PM, Kyle Mestery (kmestery) kmest...@cisco.com wrote: On Nov 18, 2013, at 4:26 PM, Kanthi P pavuluri.kan...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, We are planning to implement quantum security groups using openflows for ovs plugin instead of iptables which is the case now. Doing so we can avoid the extra linux bridge which is connected between the vnet device and the ovs bridge, which is given as a work around since ovs bridge is not compatible with iptables. We are planning to create a blueprint and work on it. Could you please share your views on this Hi Kanthi: Overall, this idea is interesting and removing those extra bridges would certainly be nice. Some people at Bluehost gave a talk at the Summit [1] in which they explained they have done something similar, you may want to reach out to them since they have code for this internally already. The OVS plugin is in feature freeze during Icehouse, and will be deprecated in favor of ML2 [2] at the end of Icehouse. I would advise you to retarget your work at ML2 when running with the OVS agent instead. The Neutron team will not accept new features into the OVS plugin anymore. Thanks, Kyle [1] http://www.openstack.org/summit/openstack-summit-hong-kong-2013/session-videos/presentation/towards-truly-open-and-commoditized-software-defined-networks-in-openstack [2] https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Neutron/ML2 Thanks, Kanthi ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
