Re: [openstack-dev] tenant or project

2013-11-27 Thread Thierry Carrez
Tim Bell wrote: Can we get a TC policy that 'project' is the standard and that all projects using tenant should plan a smooth migration path to project along with the timescales for implementation and retirement of tenant ? Feel free to propose such policy for TC review. Rules of engagement

Re: [openstack-dev] tenant or project

2013-11-27 Thread Steven Hardy
On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 10:17:56PM +1030, Christopher Yeoh wrote: On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 7:50 PM, Flavio Percoco fla...@redhat.com wrote: On 24/11/13 12:47 -0500, Doug Hellmann wrote: On Sun, Nov 24, 2013 at 12:08 AM, Morgan Fainberg m...@metacloud.com wrote: In all honesty it

Re: [openstack-dev] tenant or project

2013-11-27 Thread Anne Gentle
Hi Steve, There was a long thread about dropping project ID/tenant ID from the URL at http://openstack.markmail.org/thread/c2wi2uwdsye32z7f Looking back through it, it looks like nova v3 has it removed https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/v3-api-remove-project-id Maybe something in there

Re: [openstack-dev] tenant or project

2013-11-27 Thread Steven Hardy
On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 08:17:59AM -0600, Anne Gentle wrote: Hi Steve, There was a long thread about dropping project ID/tenant ID from the URL at http://openstack.markmail.org/thread/c2wi2uwdsye32z7f Looking back through it, it looks like nova v3 has it removed

Re: [openstack-dev] tenant or project

2013-11-27 Thread Dolph Mathews
On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 8:12 AM, Steven Hardy sha...@redhat.com wrote: On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 10:17:56PM +1030, Christopher Yeoh wrote: On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 7:50 PM, Flavio Percoco fla...@redhat.com wrote: On 24/11/13 12:47 -0500, Doug Hellmann wrote: On Sun, Nov 24, 2013 at

Re: [openstack-dev] tenant or project

2013-11-26 Thread Christopher Yeoh
On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 7:50 PM, Flavio Percoco fla...@redhat.com wrote: On 24/11/13 12:47 -0500, Doug Hellmann wrote: On Sun, Nov 24, 2013 at 12:08 AM, Morgan Fainberg m...@metacloud.com wrote: In all honesty it doesn't matter which term we go with. As long as we are consistent

Re: [openstack-dev] tenant or project

2013-11-26 Thread Tim Bell
To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] tenant or project On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 7:50 PM, Flavio Percoco fla...@redhat.com wrote: On 24/11/13 12:47 -0500, Doug Hellmann wrote: On Sun, Nov 24, 2013 at 12:08 AM, Morgan Fainberg m

Re: [openstack-dev] tenant or project

2013-11-25 Thread Flavio Percoco
On 24/11/13 12:47 -0500, Doug Hellmann wrote: On Sun, Nov 24, 2013 at 12:08 AM, Morgan Fainberg m...@metacloud.com wrote: In all honesty it doesn't matter which term we go with. As long as we are consistent and define the meaning. I think we can argue intuitive vs non-intuitive in

Re: [openstack-dev] tenant or project

2013-11-24 Thread Joshua Harlow
To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] tenant or project On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 11:35 AM, Dolph Mathews dolph.math...@gmail.commailto:dolph.math...@gmail.com wrote: +1 for using the term project across all services. Projects provide multi-tenant

Re: [openstack-dev] tenant or project

2013-11-23 Thread Nick Chase
From a purely documentation and explanatory standpoint I vote for project, if we're going to standardize on one or the other. On Nov 23, 2013 7:13 AM, Christopher Yeoh cbky...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, So in the past we've used both tenant and project to refer to the same thing and I think its

Re: [openstack-dev] tenant or project

2013-11-23 Thread Tim Bell
Horizon uses Project in the user interface, yet the openstack.rc file contains tenant_id and tenant_name. It makes it very difficult to write user guides given that such a fundamental concept has two names. No problem to maintain compatibility (i.e. try OS_TENANT_NAME after OS_PROJECT_NAME)

Re: [openstack-dev] tenant or project

2013-11-23 Thread Nathan Kinder
On 11/23/2013 08:28 AM, Tim Bell wrote: Horizon uses Project in the user interface, yet the openstack.rc file contains tenant_id and tenant_name. It makes it very difficult to write user guides given that such a fundamental concept has two names. +1. I struggled with this

Re: [openstack-dev] tenant or project

2013-11-23 Thread Dolph Mathews
+1 for using the term project across all services. Projects provide multi-tenant isolation for resources across the cloud. Part of the reason we prefer projects in keystone is that domains conceptually provide multi-tenant isolation within keystone itself, so the overloaded tenant terminology gets

Re: [openstack-dev] tenant or project

2013-11-23 Thread Dean Troyer
On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 11:35 AM, Dolph Mathews dolph.math...@gmail.comwrote: +1 for using the term project across all services. Projects provide multi-tenant isolation for resources across the cloud. Part of the reason we prefer projects in keystone is that domains conceptually provide

Re: [openstack-dev] tenant or project

2013-11-23 Thread Tim Bell
[mailto:dtro...@gmail.com] Sent: 23 November 2013 19:03 To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] tenant or project On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 11:35 AM, Dolph Mathews dolph.math...@gmail.commailto:dolph.math...@gmail.com wrote: +1 for using the term

Re: [openstack-dev] tenant or project

2013-11-23 Thread Caitlin Bestler
On November 23, 2013 4:09:49 AM Christopher Yeoh cbky...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, So in the past we've used both tenant and project to refer to the same thing and I think its been a source of confusion for people new to OpenStack. In the Nova code we use both, but at least for the API we've been

Re: [openstack-dev] tenant or project

2013-11-23 Thread Dolph Mathews
On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 2:27 PM, Caitlin Bestler caitlin.best...@nexenta.com wrote: On November 23, 2013 4:09:49 AM Christopher Yeoh cbky...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, So in the past we've used both tenant and project to refer to the same thing and I think its been a source of confusion for

Re: [openstack-dev] tenant or project

2013-11-23 Thread Caitlin Bestler
I have seen several people request that their users be members of two projects and that they be allow to publish objects that are Shared by multiple projects. For some reason the people who request these complex data constructions always prefer to call the enclosing entity a project. I have

Re: [openstack-dev] tenant or project

2013-11-23 Thread Morgan Fainberg
In all honesty it doesn't matter which term we go with. As long as we are consistent and define the meaning. I think we can argue intuitive vs non-intuitive in this case unto the ground. I prefer project to tenant, but beyond being a bit of an overloaded term, I really don't think anyone will