Re: [Openstack-doc-core] Core team review - February 2017

2017-02-01 Thread Anne Gentle 
Heh, I knew it had to be an incorrect tab! LOL thanks.

On Wed, Feb 1, 2017 at 4:21 PM, Lana Brindley 
wrote:

> You're looking at Feb 2016. Change to the Feb 2017 tab.
>
> L
>
> On 02/02/17 08:18, Anne Gentle wrote:
> > Sure, here's a side-by-side screenshot. I placed strikethrough on names
> that did not appear in the top 12, like ventakamesh.Inline image 1
> >
> > On Wed, Feb 1, 2017 at 3:59 PM, Lana Brindley <
> openst...@lanabrindley.com > wrote:
> >
> > On 01/02/17 23:42, Anne Gentle wrote:
> > > I did some inline editing to strikethrough inaccuracies -- your
> columns don't seem to match with what the 30-day 90-day links show. Maybe
> the tab is mislabeled?
> >
> > Can you be more specific?
> >
> > >
> > > I'd like some discussion about how best to onboard new cores -
> Andreas is onto something with an introduction to the mailing list. Do they
> want to be cores? Do they know their stats are being watched for this?
> >
> > So generally, once this team has agreed on a new core, I email them
> directly to ask first. There's usually some discussion on email, where we
> can discuss responsibilities, etc, before they agree to take on the role.
> It is *always* an offer, not a command, and I make it clear that I'm around
> to answer questions.
> >
> > I like the idea of intros on the ML, but I think that should go for
> all new contributors, not just new cores. By the time someone is getting to
> core, we should already know who they are.
> >
> > Lana
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Re: [Openstack-doc-core] Core team review - February 2017

2017-02-01 Thread Alexandra Settle 

> We have this - 
> http://docs.openstack.org/contributor-guide/docs-review.html#achieving-core-reviewer-status

Although I knew this was here, I would not say this is easy to find if you were 
looking for this type of information. The contributor guide continuously grows 
and grows. I wonder if it’s worth separating it into two contributor guides? 
One for how to contribute, and one for conventions and guidelines? Perhaps even 
as simple revisiting of the contributor guide structure might help.

> These are good ideas, but there's still an outreach component that usually 
> comes from the PTL, to ask individuals > their goals and guide them towards 
> meaningful contributions.

I am happy to make this a goal for my first cycle as PTL. I have reached out to 
the 99cloud contributors only the other day to find out what they would be 
interested in working on.
But this is also a community effort, it would be nice to see people coming to 
me (for Pike) and asking what they can help with. I see lots of cores floating 
around without much direction (this has been me in the past, for sure).
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Re: [Openstack-doc-core] Core team review - February 2017

2017-02-01 Thread Anne Gentle 
On Wed, Feb 1, 2017 at 9:17 AM, Alexandra Settle 
wrote:

> Andreas:
> > Yay on the no drops.
>
> > Regarding addition: I'm seeing cores as a *team* - even if many of us
> > work on our own, we interact with each other and need help from
> others.
>
> > I'd like cores to collaborate - so attending IRC meetings and taking
> > part in discussions. How to encourage these to engage more? At least
> > let's each of them ask for a self-intro on the mailing list if they
> > become core...
>
> > Abstaining for now on the addition,
>
> I would like to add a suggestion to that – if an individual appears on
> these lists, is put forward for core, not only do we request that cores
> attend IRC meetings, discussions on the mailing list, but that they also
> have at least once taken on the bug triager responsibility for Launchpad.
>
> Anne:
>> I'd like some discussion about how best to onboard new cores -
> Andreas is onto something with an introduction to the mailing list.
>> Do they want to be cores? Do they know their stats are being watched
> for this?
>
> This is a really good discussion we should be having. We are losing cores
> rapidly due to other commitments. Maybe we could introduce something to the
> Contributor Guide along the lines of “So you want to become a core” within
> the “documentation team structure” section. However, this might not be as
> visible as we would like, and a little confusing to find.
>

We have this -
http://docs.openstack.org/contributor-guide/docs-review.html#achieving-core-reviewer-status



>
> I have been thinking that we need to start introducing a better structure
> to the ‘this is your first week working on manuals’. I would like to
> publish something similar to a blog post on SuperUser, and perhaps add a
> new chapter to the Contributor Guide on ‘your first week’ with tips and
> instructions (Day Two: Find some low hanging fruit bugs, here’s a link).
>
>
These are good ideas, but there's still an outreach component that usually
comes from the PTL, to ask individuals their goals and guide them towards
meaningful contributions.


> Unlike other projects, we get a lot of first timers with little-to-no
> upstream and dev experience and we cannot continue to assume they are just
> going to read the contributor guide and ‘dive right in’ like we have in the
> past.
>


Yep, agreed.


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Re: [Openstack-doc-core] Core team review - February 2017

2017-02-01 Thread Anne Gentle 
I did some inline editing to strikethrough inaccuracies -- your columns
don't seem to match with what the 30-day 90-day links show. Maybe the tab
is mislabeled?

I'd like some discussion about how best to onboard new cores - Andreas is
onto something with an introduction to the mailing list. Do they want to be
cores? Do they know their stats are being watched for this?

Anne


On Tue, Jan 31, 2017 at 6:40 PM, Lana Brindley 
wrote:

> Hi core team,
>
> Alex and I just did the core team review together for February.
>
> Here's the core reviewer stats for this month[1]:
>
> Current cores not appearing in any stats:
> Anne Gentle
> Maria Zlatkova
> Olena Logvinova
> Olga Gusarenko
> Shilla Saebi
>
> This is the first appearance for all five on this list, and I think we can
> safely assume that's because of various leave around this time of year for
> Anne, Maria, Olena, and Olga. I understand that Shilla has been drawn to
> other projects recently, so her attention has been diverted. I will reach
> out to these people individually, and we can reassess next month.
>
> Current non-cores appearing in stats:
>
> melissaml/ma.lei (all three columns)
> chenxing/chason (all three columns)
> caoyuan (90 days & contributions)
> cyrichardson (30 & 90 days)
> bmoss (30 days only)
> bruce-benjamin (30 days only)
> qiaomin032 (Contributions only)
> Ankur Gupta (Contributions only)
> Emma Foley (Contributions only)
> Thomas Goirand (Contributions only)
>
> Melissa (ma.lei) and Chen Xing (Chason) are hitting all three columns.
> Caoyuan is is hitting 90 days and Contributions. Given that it's currently
> Lunar New Year, and Caoyuan is often in the top 12 on 30 days, I think we
> should consider both Chason and Caoyuan. They are both regular appearances,
> and both have vastly improved their quality of reviews and contributions
> recently. Melissa, while she is prolific, might need a little more time and
> coaching to improve her review quality, although that's open for discussion
> in this group. I'd also like to call out Catherine Richardson
> (cyrichardson) as being a relative newcomer who is putting a lot of effort
> in (although we would need to see some quality contributions before making
> her core, I think).
>
> After some discussion, our recommendation for February is:
> Drop: no one
> Add: Chen Xing (Chason) and Caoyuan
>
> Yay or nay?
>
> Thanks,
> Lana
>
> 1: This lives in a spreadsheet, which you can see here (note that the
> months are in tabs at the bottom of the page):
> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/15rPHjQ3BKYsImLqKWlW1BD-NfMKzh9Hz
> l2_gfHp9bc0/edit?usp=sharing
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Re: [Openstack-doc-core] Core team review - February 2017

2017-02-01 Thread Lana Brindley 
On 01/02/17 17:14, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
> On 2017-02-01 01:40, Lana Brindley  wrote:
>> Hi core team,
>>
>> Alex and I just did the core team review together for February. 
>>
>> Here's the core reviewer stats for this month[1]:
>>
>> Current cores not appearing in any stats:
>> Anne Gentle
> 
> Interesting - Anne reviewed openstackdocstheme and openstack-manuals in
> January. She should be in the list.
> 
> Example:
> https://review.openstack.org/426294

She is in the list, just not in the top 12.

> 
>> Maria Zlatkova
>> Olena Logvinova
>> Olga Gusarenko
>> Shilla Saebi
>>
>> This is the first appearance for all five on this list, and I think we can 
>> safely assume that's because of various leave around this time of year for 
>> Anne, Maria, Olena, and Olga. I understand that Shilla has been drawn to 
>> other projects recently, so her attention has been diverted. I will reach 
>> out to these people individually, and we can reassess next month. 
>>
>> Current non-cores appearing in stats:
>>
>> melissaml/ma.lei (all three columns)
>> chenxing/chason (all three columns)
>> caoyuan (90 days & contributions)
>> cyrichardson (30 & 90 days)
>> bmoss (30 days only)
>> bruce-benjamin (30 days only)
>> qiaomin032 (Contributions only)
>> Ankur Gupta (Contributions only)
>> Emma Foley (Contributions only)
>> Thomas Goirand (Contributions only)
>>
>> Melissa (ma.lei) and Chen Xing (Chason) are hitting all three columns. 
>> Caoyuan is is hitting 90 days and Contributions. Given that it's currently 
>> Lunar New Year, and Caoyuan is often in the top 12 on 30 days, I think we 
>> should consider both Chason and Caoyuan. They are both regular appearances, 
>> and both have vastly improved their quality of reviews and contributions 
>> recently. Melissa, while she is prolific, might need a little more time and 
>> coaching to improve her review quality, although that's open for discussion 
>> in this group. I'd also like to call out Catherine Richardson (cyrichardson) 
>> as being a relative newcomer who is putting a lot of effort in (although we 
>> would need to see some quality contributions before making her core, I 
>> think).
>>
>> After some discussion, our recommendation for February is:
>> Drop: no one
>> Add: Chen Xing (Chason) and Caoyuan
>>
>> Yay or nay?
>>
> 
> Yay on the no drops.
> 
> Regarding addition: I'm seeing cores as a *team* - even if many of us
> work on our own, we interact with each other and need help from others.
> 
> I'd like cores to collaborate - so attending IRC meetings and taking
> part in discussions. How to encourage these to engage more? At least
> let's each of them ask for a self-intro on the mailing list if they
> become core...

Yep, I'm cool with that :)

> 
> Abstaining for now on the addition,

Sure.

L


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