[Openstack-operators] [Forum] Forum Topic Submission Period - Time Running out!

2018-09-24 Thread Jimmy McArthur 
Just a reminder that there is a little more than 60 hours left to submit 
your forum topics.  Please make haste to the Forum submission tool:


https://www.openstack.org/summit/berlin-2018/call-for-presentations

Cheers,
Jimmy


Jimmy McArthur 
September 17, 2018 at 11:13 AM
Hello Everyone!

The Forum Topic Submission session started September 12 and will run 
through September 26th.  Now is the time to wrangle the topics you 
gathered during your Brainstorming Phase and start pushing forum 
topics through. Don't rely only on a PTL to make the agenda... step on 
up and place the items you consider important front and center.


As you may have noticed on the Forum Wiki 
(https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Forum), we're reusing the normal CFP 
tool this year. We did our best to remove Summit specific language, 
but if you notice something, just know that you are submitting to the 
Forum.  URL is here:


https://www.openstack.org/summit/berlin-2018/call-for-presentations

Looking forward to seeing everyone's submissions!

If you have questions or concerns about the process, please don't 
hesitate to reach out.


Cheers,
Jimmy

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[Openstack-operators] RFC: Next minimum libvirt / QEMU versions for 'T' release

2018-09-24 Thread Kashyap Chamarthy 
Hey folks,

Before we bump the agreed upon[1] minimum versions for libvirt and QEMU
for 'Stein', we need to do the tedious work of picking the NEXT_MIN_*
versions for the 'T' (which is still in the naming phase) release, which
will come out in the autumn (Sep-Nov) of 2019.

Proposal


Looking at the DistroSupportMatrix[2], it seems like we can pick the
libvirt and QEMU versions supported by the next LTS release of Ubuntu --
18.04; "Bionic", which are:

libvirt: 4.0.0
QEMU:2.11

Debian, Fedora, Ubuntu (Bionic), openSUSE currently already ship the
above versions.  And it seems reasonable to assume that the enterprise
distribtions will also ship the said versions pretty soon; but let's
double-confirm below.

Considerations and open questions
-

(a) KVM for IBM z Systems: John Garbutt pointed out[3] on IRC that:
"IBM announced that KVM for IBM z will be withdrawn, effective March
31, 2018 [...] development will not only continue unaffected, but
the options for users grow, especially with the recent addition of
SuSE to the existing support in Ubuntu."

The message seems to be: "use a regular distribution".  So this is
covered, if we a version based on other distributions.

(b) Oracle Linux: Can you please confirm if you'll be able to
release libvirt and QEMU to 4.0.0 and 2.11, respectively?

(c) SLES: Same question as above.

Assuming Oracle Linux and SLES confirm, please let us know if there are
any objections if we pick NEXT_MIN_* versions for the OpenStack 'T'
release to be libvirt: 4.0.0 and QEMU: 2.11.

* * *

A refresher on libvirt and QEMU release schedules
-

  - There will be at least 12 libvirt releases (_excluding_ maintenance
releases) by Autumn 2019.  A new libvirt release comes out every
month[4].

  - And there will be about 4 releases of QEMU.  A new QEMU release
comes out once every four months.

[1] http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/nova/commit/?h=master=28d337b
-- Pick next minimum libvirt / QEMU versions for "Stein"
[2] https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/LibvirtDistroSupportMatrix
[3] http://kvmonz.blogspot.com/2017/03/kvm-for-ibm-z-withdrawal.html
[4] https://libvirt.org/downloads.html#schedule

-- 
/kashyap

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Re: [Openstack-operators] [openstack-dev] [penstack-dev]Discussion about the future of OpenStack in China

2018-09-24 Thread Jay Pipes 

Fred,

I had a hard time understanding the articles. I'm not sure if you used 
Google Translate to do the translation from Chinese to English, but I 
personally found both of them difficult to follow.


There were a couple points that I did manage to decipher, though. One 
thing that both articles seemed to say was that OpenStack doesn't meet 
public (AWS-ish) cloud use cases and OpenStack doesn't compare favorably 
to VMWare either.


Is there a large contingent of Chinese OpenStack users that expect 
OpenStack to be a free (as in beer) version of VMware technology?


What are the 3 most important features that Chinese OpenStack users 
would like to see included in OpenStack projects?


Thanks,
-jay

On 09/24/2018 11:10 AM, Fred Li wrote:

Hi folks,

Recently there are several blogs which discussed about the future of 
OpenStack. If I was not wrong, the first one is 
"OpenStack-8-year-itch"[1], and you can find its English version 
attached. Thanks to google translation. The second one is 
"5-years-my-opinion-on-OpenStack" [2] with English version attached as 
well. Please translate the 3 to 6 and read them if you are interested.


I don't want to judge anything here. I just want to share as they are 
quite hot discussion and I think it is valuable for the whole community, 
not part of community to know.


[1] https://mp.weixin.qq.com/s/GM5cMOl0q3hb_6_eEiixzA
[2] https://mp.weixin.qq.com/s/qZkE4o_BHBPlbIjekjDRKw
[3] https://mp.weixin.qq.com/s/svX4z3JM5ArQ57A1jFoyLw
[4] https://mp.weixin.qq.com/s/Nyb0OxI2Z7LxDpofTTyWOg
[5] https://mp.weixin.qq.com/s/5GV4i8kyedHSbCxCO1VBRw
[6] https://mp.weixin.qq.com/s/yeBcMogumXKGQ0KyKrgbqA
--
Regards
Fred Li (李永乐)


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Re: [Openstack-operators] RFC: Next minimum libvirt / QEMU versions for 'T' release

2018-09-24 Thread iain MacDonnell 



On 09/24/2018 06:22 AM, Kashyap Chamarthy wrote:

(b) Oracle Linux: Can you please confirm if you'll be able to
 release libvirt and QEMU to 4.0.0 and 2.11, respectively?


Hi Kashyap,

Those are already available at:

http://yum.oracle.com/repo/OracleLinux/OL7/developer/kvm/utils/x86_64/index.html

~iain


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Re: [Openstack-operators] RFC: Next minimum libvirt / QEMU versions for'T' release

2018-09-24 Thread Chen CH Ji 
>>>(a) KVM for IBM z Systems: John Garbutt pointed out[3] on IRC that:
>>> "IBM announced that KVM for IBM z will be withdrawn, effective March
>>> 31, 2018 [...] development will not only continue unaffected, but
>>> the options for users grow, especially with the recent addition of
>>> SuSE to the existing support in Ubuntu."

>>> The message seems to be: "use a regular distribution".  So this is
>>> covered, if we a version based on other distributions.

Yes, IBM don't have a product on s390x anymore per [3] indicated,
we are cooperating with distro in enablement

and for openstack, KVM on z has its own 3rd CI maintaining by us per [5]

[5] http://ci-watch.tintri.com/project?project=nova(IBM zKVM CI )

Best Regards!

Kevin (Chen) Ji 纪 晨

Engineer, zVM Development, CSTL
Notes: Chen CH Ji/China/IBM@IBMCN   Internet: jiche...@cn.ibm.com
Phone: +86-10-82451493
Address: 3/F Ring Building, ZhongGuanCun Software Park, Haidian District,
Beijing 100193, PRC



From:   Kashyap Chamarthy 
To: openstack-operators@lists.openstack.org,
openstack-...@lists.openstack.org
Date:   09/24/2018 09:28 PM
Subject:[Openstack-operators] RFC: Next minimum libvirt / QEMU versions
for 'T' release



Hey folks,

Before we bump the agreed upon[1] minimum versions for libvirt and QEMU
for 'Stein', we need to do the tedious work of picking the NEXT_MIN_*
versions for the 'T' (which is still in the naming phase) release, which
will come out in the autumn (Sep-Nov) of 2019.

Proposal


Looking at the DistroSupportMatrix[2], it seems like we can pick the
libvirt and QEMU versions supported by the next LTS release of Ubuntu --
18.04; "Bionic", which are:

libvirt: 4.0.0
QEMU:2.11

Debian, Fedora, Ubuntu (Bionic), openSUSE currently already ship the
above versions.  And it seems reasonable to assume that the enterprise
distribtions will also ship the said versions pretty soon; but let's
double-confirm below.

Considerations and open questions
-

(a) KVM for IBM z Systems: John Garbutt pointed out[3] on IRC that:
"IBM announced that KVM for IBM z will be withdrawn, effective March
31, 2018 [...] development will not only continue unaffected, but
the options for users grow, especially with the recent addition of
SuSE to the existing support in Ubuntu."

The message seems to be: "use a regular distribution".  So this is
covered, if we a version based on other distributions.

(b) Oracle Linux: Can you please confirm if you'll be able to
release libvirt and QEMU to 4.0.0 and 2.11, respectively?

(c) SLES: Same question as above.

Assuming Oracle Linux and SLES confirm, please let us know if there are
any objections if we pick NEXT_MIN_* versions for the OpenStack 'T'
release to be libvirt: 4.0.0 and QEMU: 2.11.

* * *

A refresher on libvirt and QEMU release schedules
-

  - There will be at least 12 libvirt releases (_excluding_ maintenance
releases) by Autumn 2019.  A new libvirt release comes out every
month[4].

  - And there will be about 4 releases of QEMU.  A new QEMU release
comes out once every four months.

[1]
http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/nova/commit/?h=master=28d337b

-- Pick next minimum libvirt / QEMU versions for "Stein"
[2]
https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/LibvirtDistroSupportMatrix

[3]
http://kvmonz.blogspot.com/2017/03/kvm-for-ibm-z-withdrawal.html

[4]
https://libvirt.org/downloads.html#schedule


--
/kashyap

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