Re: [Openstack-operators] Dealing with ITAR in OpenStack private clouds

2017-03-22 Thread Silence Dogood
The thing that screwed us up at Ames back in the day was deleting misplaced data ( should that happen ). Swift was basically incapable of it at the time, cinder didn't even exist. Ultimately I ended up heading in the direction of spinning up separate cloud environments entirely for each cloud. M

Re: [Openstack-operators] What would you like in Pike?

2017-01-17 Thread Silence Dogood
I can see a huge problem with your contributing operators... all of them are enterprise. enterprise needs are radically different from small to medium deployers who openstack has traditionally failed to work well for. On Tue, Jan 17, 2017 at 12:47 PM, Piet Kruithof wrote: > Sorry for the late r

Re: [Openstack-operators] Question about ancient published OPS and Architecture guides

2016-10-31 Thread Silence Dogood
you know how many folks are STILL running havana openstack? On Mon, Oct 31, 2016 at 2:44 PM, Andreas Jaeger wrote: > On 10/31/2016 07:33 PM, Lutz Birkhahn wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I have already manually created PDF versions of about 8 of the OpenStack > Manuals (within about 4-6 hours including s

Re: [Openstack-operators] Tenant/Project naming restrictions

2016-10-05 Thread Silence Dogood
so project '💩 ' would be perfectly okay then. On Wed, Oct 5, 2016 at 5:36 PM, Steve Martinelli wrote: > There are some restrictions. > > 1. The project name cannot be longer than 64 characters. > 2. Within a domain, the project name is unique. So you can have project > "foo" in the "default" dom

Re: [Openstack-operators] SDN for hybridcloud, does it *really* exist?

2016-10-03 Thread Silence Dogood
food for nightmares... try to consider how you would handle ip address mapping around a fiber ring between multiple cloud infrastructures. On Mon, Oct 3, 2016 at 1:52 PM, Jonathan Proulx wrote: > > So my sense from responses so far: > > No one is doing unified SDN solutions across clouds and n

Re: [Openstack-operators] SDN for hybridcloud, does it *really* exist?

2016-10-03 Thread Silence Dogood
I think the best general way to view networking in cloud is WAN vs Cloud Lan. There's almost always an edge routing env for your cloud environments ( whether they be by region or by policy or by tim is an angry dude and you don't touch his instances ). Everything beyond that edge is a WAN problem

Re: [Openstack-operators] Public cloud operators group in

2016-09-26 Thread Silence Dogood
I figure if you have entity Y's workloads running on entity X's hardware... and that's 51% or greater portion of gross revenue... you are a public cloud. On Mon, Sep 26, 2016 at 11:35 AM, Kenny Johnston wrote: > That seems like a strange definition. It doesn't incorporate the usual > multi-tenan

Re: [Openstack-operators] Murano in Production

2016-09-18 Thread Silence Dogood
I'd love to see your results on this . Very interesting stuff. On Sep 17, 2016 1:37 AM, "Joe Topjian" wrote: > Hi all, > > We're planning to deploy Murano to one of our OpenStack clouds and I'm > debating the RabbitMQ setup. > > For background: the Murano agent that runs on instances requires a

Re: [Openstack-operators] Openstack team size vs's deployment size

2016-09-12 Thread Silence Dogood
I want desperately to see a failed deployments talk at summit. I'd be glad to contribute but we'd need info on a variety of failure states. On Sep 12, 2016 1:05 PM, "Jonathan D. Proulx" wrote: > > I agree this would make a very interesting OPs session. > > As many have poitned out it's difficul

Re: [Openstack-operators] Openstack team size vs's deployment size

2016-09-07 Thread Silence Dogood
early days was 2 full time 2 part time for a cluster size of a couple hundred. On Wed, Sep 7, 2016 at 6:59 PM, Kris G. Lindgren wrote: > Hello all, > > > > I was hoping to poll other operators to see what their average team size > vs’s deployment size is, as I am trying to use this in an interna

Re: [Openstack-operators] Tuning I/O with SSDs

2016-08-05 Thread Silence Dogood
there are fundamental longevity of life questions with SSDs and tuning. I'd be interested in hearing about that as well. On Fri, Aug 5, 2016 at 11:23 AM, Edgar Magana wrote: > Tim, > > > > At Workday team we are working on that, our work is for CEPH performance. > Basically, moving janitor and c

Re: [Openstack-operators] Who's using TripleO in production?

2016-08-03 Thread Silence Dogood
the v1 helion product was a joke for deployment at scale. I still don't know whose hair brained idea it was to use OOO there and then. but it was hair brained at best. From my perspective the biggest issue with helion, was insane architecture decisions like that one being made with no adherence t

Re: [Openstack-operators] Please review: OpenStack Personas Document

2016-07-07 Thread Silence Dogood
Vish the virtual machine barista? On Thu, Jul 7, 2016 at 4:23 PM, Kruithof Jr, Pieter < pieter.kruithof...@intel.com> wrote: > Operators, > > If you have a few moments, please review the following: > > https://review.openstack.org/#/c/326662/14 > > The intent of the document is to generate a grou

Re: [Openstack-operators] Packaging Virtualenvs

2016-06-23 Thread Silence Dogood
I'll check out giftwrap. never heard of it. But interesting. On Thu, Jun 23, 2016 at 7:50 PM, Xav Paice wrote: > Can I suggest that using the tool https://github.com/openstack/giftwrap > might make live a bunch easier? > > I went down a similar path with building Debs in a venv using > dh_virt

[Openstack-operators] Packaging Virtualenvs

2016-06-23 Thread Silence Dogood
I know from conversations that a few folks package their python apps as distributable virtualenvs. spotify created dh-virtualenv for this. you can do it pretty simply by hand. I built a toolchain for building rpms as distributable virtualenvs and that works really well. What I'd like to do is

Re: [Openstack-operators] How do you handle purge of database tables ?

2016-06-22 Thread Silence Dogood
I use thermite. On Wed, Jun 22, 2016 at 5:26 PM, Gilles Mocellin < gilles.mocel...@nuagelibre.org> wrote: > Hello, > > While digging in nova's database, I found that many objects ar not really > deleted, but instead just marked deleted. > In fact, it's a general behavior in other projects (cinder

Re: [Openstack-operators] How are people dealing with API rate limiting?

2016-06-14 Thread Silence Dogood
+1 also SSL On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 4:58 PM, Russell Bryant wrote: > This is the most common approach I've heard of (doing rate limiting in > your load balancer). > > On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 12:10 PM, Kingshott, Daniel < > daniel.kingsh...@bestbuy.com> wrote: > >> We use Haproxy to load balance

Re: [Openstack-operators] vmware to openstack

2016-05-06 Thread Silence Dogood
PCI compliance / ITAR / TS stuff all require isolation. You'd need to stand up isolated environments of the translation env for each. On Fri, May 6, 2016 at 11:50 AM, Jonathan Proulx wrote: > On Fri, May 06, 2016 at 11:39:03AM -0400, Silence Dogood wrote: > :this strikes me as a

Re: [Openstack-operators] vmware to openstack

2016-05-06 Thread Silence Dogood
this strikes me as a really bad idea from a security standpoint... in fact it would violently violate like every audit / policy requirement I am aware of. -matt On Fri, May 6, 2016 at 11:32 AM, suresh kumar wrote: > Thanks Mariano, that really helps. > > On Fri, May 6, 2016 at 11:16 AM, Mariano

Re: [Openstack-operators] User Survey usage of QEMU (as opposed to KVM) ?

2016-05-03 Thread Silence Dogood
what you should be looking for is hvm. On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 3:20 PM, Maish Saidel-Keesing wrote: > I would think that the problem is that OpenStack does not really report > back that you are using KVM - it reports that you are using QEMU. > > Even when in nova.conf I have configured virt_type=

Re: [Openstack-operators] [openstack-community] Recognising Ops contributions

2016-03-04 Thread Silence Dogood
+1 On Fri, Mar 4, 2016 at 12:30 PM, Matt Jarvis wrote: > +1 > > On 4 March 2016 at 17:21, Robert Starmer wrote: > >> If fixing a typo in a document is considered a technical contribution, >> then I think we've already cast the net far and wide. ATC as used has >> become a name implying you're t

Re: [Openstack-operators] Setting affinity based on instance type

2016-03-03 Thread Silence Dogood
cool! On Thu, Mar 3, 2016 at 1:39 PM, Mathieu Gagné wrote: > On 2016-03-03 12:50 PM, Silence Dogood wrote: > > We did some early affinity work and discovered some interesting problems > > with affinity and scheduling. =/ by default openstack used to ( may > > still ) depl

Re: [Openstack-operators] Setting affinity based on instance type

2016-03-03 Thread Silence Dogood
We did some early affinity work and discovered some interesting problems with affinity and scheduling. =/ by default openstack used to ( may still ) deploy nodes across hosts evenly. Personally, I think this is a bad approach. Most cloud providers stack across a couple racks at a time filling th

Re: [Openstack-operators] [openstack-community] Recognising Ops contributions

2016-03-03 Thread Silence Dogood
How about just OPS : {$Verified_Count} Physical Nodes =D On Thu, Mar 3, 2016 at 12:08 PM, Robert Starmer wrote: > I setup an etherpad to try to capture this discussion: > > https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/OperatorRecognition > > R > > On Thu, Mar 3, 2016 at 9:04 AM, Robert Starmer wrote: > >>

Re: [Openstack-operators] Cloud Upgrade Strategies

2016-03-02 Thread Silence Dogood
- In-place Full Release upgrades (upgrade an entire cloud from Icehouse to Kilo for instance) This tends to be the most likely scenario with CI/CD being almost impossible for anyone using supported openstack components ( such as SDN / NAS / other hardware integration pieces ). That's not to

Re: [Openstack-operators] Configuration tool for Openstack

2016-03-02 Thread Silence Dogood
for glance. They will be geared around a one box > install at first. > > I'll update the site. > > Chris > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Mar 2, 2016, at 1:07 PM, Silence Dogood wrote: > > This is neat man. Any support for versioning? > > On Wed, Mar 2,

Re: [Openstack-operators] Configuration tool for Openstack

2016-03-02 Thread Silence Dogood
This is neat man. Any support for versioning? On Wed, Mar 2, 2016 at 3:54 PM, wrote: > Hi all; > > I'm still a bit new to the world of stacking, but like many of you I have > suffered thru the process of manual Openstack installation. > > I've been a developer for decades, so please excuse me f

Re: [Openstack-operators] [openstack-dev] OpenStack Contributor Awards

2016-03-01 Thread Silence Dogood
I believe Eric Windisch did at one point run OpenStack on a pi. The problem is that it's got so little ram, and no hypervisor. Also at least it USED to not be able to run docker since docker wasn't crosscompiled to arm at the time. It's a terrible target for openstack. NUCs on the other hand...

Re: [Openstack-operators] [nova] Do you, or your users, have input on how get-me-a-network should work in Nova?

2016-02-19 Thread Silence Dogood
>From a purely benchmarking aspect it makes sense. It's like a burn in test case use. That only makes it make sense. On Fri, Feb 19, 2016 at 5:09 PM, Kevin Bringard (kevinbri) < kevin...@cisco.com> wrote: > Sorry for top posting. > > Just wanted to say I agree with Monty (and didn't want you to