Re: [Openstack-operators] [kolla] Moving from distro packages to containers (or virtualenvs...)

[Saverio Proto]

About docker:
testing this docker setup is in my TODO list from a long time:

https://github.com/dguerri/dockerstack

Looks very well done but I think is not very well known.

Saverio

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Re: [Openstack-operators] [kolla] Moving from distro packages to containers (or virtualenvs...)

[Steven Dake (stdake)]

On 5/13/16, 11:15 AM, "Tim Bell"  wrote:

>On 13/05/16 19:48, "Joshua Harlow"  wrote:
>
>>Matthew Thode wrote:
>>> On 05/12/2016 04:04 PM, Joshua Harlow wrote:
 Hi there all-ye-operators,

 I am investigating how to help move godaddy from rpms to a
 container-like solution (virtualenvs, lxc, or docker...) and a set of
 questions that comes up is the following (and I would think that some
 folks on this mailing list may have some useful insight into the
answers):

 * Have you done the transition?

>>>
>>> We've been using openstack-ansible since it existed, it's working well
>>> for us.
>>>
 * How did the transition go?

>>>
>>> It can be painful, but it's worked out in the long run.
>>>
 * Was/is kolla used or looked into? or something custom?

>>>
>>> Openstack-ansible, which is Openstack big-tent.  It used to be
>>> os-ansible-deployment in stackforge, but we've removed the
>>>rackspacisms.
>>>   I will say that openstack-ansible is one of the few that have been
>>> doing upgrades reliably for a while, since at least Icehouse, maybe
>>>further.
>>
>>Whats the connection between 'openstack-ansible' and 'kolla', is there
>>any (or any in progress?)
>>
>>>
 * How long did it take to do the transition from a package based
 solution (with say puppet/chef being used to deploy these packages)?

* Follow-up being how big was the team to do this?
>>>
>>> Our team was somewhat bigger than most as we have many deployments and
>>> we had to do it from scratch.  If you CAN do it solo, but I'd recommend
>>> you have coverage / on call for whatever your requirements are.
>>>
 * What was the roll-out strategy to achieve the final container
solution?

>>>
>>> For Openstack-ansible I'd recommend deploying a service at a time,
>>> migrating piecemeal.  You can migrate to the same release as you are on
>>> (I hope), though I'd recommend kilo or greater as upgrades can get
>>> annoying after a while.
>>>
 Any other feedback (and/or questions that I missed)?

>
>Is there some documentation from Kolla on how we could move from a
>classic RPM/APT based deployment to containers ?
>
>Would be an interesting read (asking for a friend, of course)
>
>Tim

Tim,

No one I know has done a brownfield migration to Kolla.  If someone
figures it out, I'd be happy to write the documentation based upon the
individuals experience.

The Kolla community is also willing to facilitate the work.  Just drop by
the channel and ask any of our friendly cores if they have suggestions.
This is a problem we will have to solve sooner or later, might as well
solve it sooner.

Regards
-steve

>
 Thanks,

 Josh

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Re: [Openstack-operators] [kolla] Moving from distro packages to containers (or virtualenvs...)

[Tim Bell]

On 13/05/16 19:48, "Joshua Harlow"  wrote:

>Matthew Thode wrote:
>> On 05/12/2016 04:04 PM, Joshua Harlow wrote:
>>> Hi there all-ye-operators,
>>>
>>> I am investigating how to help move godaddy from rpms to a
>>> container-like solution (virtualenvs, lxc, or docker...) and a set of
>>> questions that comes up is the following (and I would think that some
>>> folks on this mailing list may have some useful insight into the answers):
>>>
>>> * Have you done the transition?
>>>
>>
>> We've been using openstack-ansible since it existed, it's working well
>> for us.
>>
>>> * How did the transition go?
>>>
>>
>> It can be painful, but it's worked out in the long run.
>>
>>> * Was/is kolla used or looked into? or something custom?
>>>
>>
>> Openstack-ansible, which is Openstack big-tent.  It used to be
>> os-ansible-deployment in stackforge, but we've removed the rackspacisms.
>>   I will say that openstack-ansible is one of the few that have been
>> doing upgrades reliably for a while, since at least Icehouse, maybe further.
>
>Whats the connection between 'openstack-ansible' and 'kolla', is there 
>any (or any in progress?)
>
>>
>>> * How long did it take to do the transition from a package based
>>> solution (with say puppet/chef being used to deploy these packages)?
>>>
>>>* Follow-up being how big was the team to do this?
>>
>> Our team was somewhat bigger than most as we have many deployments and
>> we had to do it from scratch.  If you CAN do it solo, but I'd recommend
>> you have coverage / on call for whatever your requirements are.
>>
>>> * What was the roll-out strategy to achieve the final container solution?
>>>
>>
>> For Openstack-ansible I'd recommend deploying a service at a time,
>> migrating piecemeal.  You can migrate to the same release as you are on
>> (I hope), though I'd recommend kilo or greater as upgrades can get
>> annoying after a while.
>>
>>> Any other feedback (and/or questions that I missed)?
>>>

Is there some documentation from Kolla on how we could move from a classic 
RPM/APT based deployment to containers ?

Would be an interesting read (asking for a friend, of course)

Tim

>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Josh
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