Re: [Openstack-operators] [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Deprecating the use_namespaces option - Now's the time to speak up!

2015-03-23 Thread Van Leeuwen, Robert
I think there are valid reasons to not use namespaces: * Fewer moving parts == less can potentialy fail * Troubleshooting is easier due to less places to look / need no familiarity with namespaces tools * If I remember correctly setting up a namespace can get really slow when you

Re: [Openstack-operators] [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Deprecating the use_namespaces option - Now's the time to speak up!

2015-03-23 Thread Van Leeuwen, Robert
Are the setups out there *not* using the use_namespaces option? I'm curious as to why, and if it would be difficult to migrate such a setup to use namespaces. At my previous employer we did not use namespaces. This was due to a installation a few years ago on SL6 which did not have name

Re: [Openstack-operators] [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Deprecating the use_namespaces option - Now's the time to speak up!

2015-03-20 Thread Kevin Benton
I did hear of one use case.[1] :-) In all seriousness, it seems like our abstraction over executing processes must be leaking quite a bit if we can't handle a no-namespace deployment. It seems like running a command without ip netns in front of it shouldn't be that much harder. Or am I