Re: [Openstack-operators] Deprecation of in tree EC2 API in Nova for Kilo release

2015-02-03 Thread Eric Windisch
Quite seriously: open source projects are absolutely developed for their users. Thats the entire proposition of both free and open source software and licenses: that users should have the freedom to modify things to meet their needs, *and* that users will be building what they need in the

Re: [Openstack-operators] Deprecation of in tree EC2 API in Nova for Kilo release

2015-02-02 Thread Robert Collins
On 31 January 2015 at 06:18, Eric Windisch e...@windisch.us wrote: That's a failing of the Nova team that must be addressed. As maintainers it is our job to produce software that meets the needs of our users. We have 35% of users reporting they use this EC2 code, so fixing any problems should

Re: [Openstack-operators] Deprecation of in tree EC2 API in Nova for Kilo release

2015-01-29 Thread Daniel P. Berrange
On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 01:39:31PM -0800, Michael Still wrote: On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 12:38 PM, Tim Bell tim.b...@cern.ch wrote: There are currently 35% of openstack clouds from the survey using this feature. I would therefore propose that this be reviewed with the operators in detail

Re: [Openstack-operators] Deprecation of in tree EC2 API in Nova for Kilo release

2015-01-29 Thread Belmiro Moreira
I completely agree with Tim and Daniel. Also, deprecating nova EC2 API without having the community engaged with the new stackforge “EC2 standalone service” can lead to a no EC2 support at all. On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 4:46 AM, Saju M sajup...@gmail.com wrote: I think, new EC2 API also uses EC2

Re: [Openstack-operators] Deprecation of in tree EC2 API in Nova for Kilo release

2015-01-29 Thread George Shuklin
On 01/28/2015 09:56 PM, Sean Dague wrote: The following review for Kilo deprecates the EC2 API in Nova - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/150929/ There are a number of reasons for this. The EC2 API has been slowly rotting in the Nova tree, never was highly tested, implements a substantially

Re: [Openstack-operators] Deprecation of in tree EC2 API in Nova for Kilo release

2015-01-29 Thread Michael Still
On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 1:59 AM, Belmiro Moreira moreira.belmiro.email.li...@gmail.com wrote: I completely agree with Tim and Daniel. Also, deprecating nova EC2 API without having the community engaged with the new stackforge “EC2 standalone service” can lead to a no EC2 support at all.

Re: [Openstack-operators] Deprecation of in tree EC2 API in Nova for Kilo release

2015-01-29 Thread Michael Still
On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 2:37 AM, Daniel P. Berrange berra...@redhat.com wrote: On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 01:39:31PM -0800, Michael Still wrote: On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 12:38 PM, Tim Bell tim.b...@cern.ch wrote: There are currently 35% of openstack clouds from the survey using this feature. I

Re: [Openstack-operators] Deprecation of in tree EC2 API in Nova for Kilo release

2015-01-28 Thread Christian Berendt
On 01/28/2015 08:56 PM, Sean Dague wrote: Comments are welcomed, but we've attempted to get more people engaged to address these issues over the last 18 months, and never really had anyone step up. Without some real maintainers of this code in Nova (and tests somewhere in the community) it's

Re: [Openstack-operators] Deprecation of in tree EC2 API in Nova for Kilo release

2015-01-28 Thread Michael Still
On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 12:38 PM, Tim Bell tim.b...@cern.ch wrote: There are currently 35% of openstack clouds from the survey using this feature. I would therefore propose that this be reviewed with the operators in detail before a rapid depreciation is performed. To the best of my

Re: [Openstack-operators] Deprecation of in tree EC2 API in Nova for Kilo release

2015-01-28 Thread Tim Bell
There are currently 35% of openstack clouds from the survey using this feature. I would therefore propose that this be reviewed with the operators in detail before a rapid depreciation is performed. To the best of my knowledge, the new package is not yet in use in production. At CERN, we are

Re: [Openstack-operators] Deprecation of in tree EC2 API in Nova for Kilo release

2015-01-28 Thread Daniel P. Berrange
On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 08:38:02PM +, Tim Bell wrote: There are currently 35% of openstack clouds from the survey using this feature. I would therefore propose that this be reviewed with the operators in detail before a rapid depreciation is performed. To the best of my knowledge, the new

Re: [Openstack-operators] Deprecation of in tree EC2 API in Nova for Kilo release

2015-01-28 Thread Alex Baretto
Hi Tim, Would you be able to share use cases/experiences with EC2 API to help with support for your proposals? I am also familiar with multiple OpenStack clouds using the EC2 API. Best, -Alex. On 28 January 2015 at 12:38, Tim Bell tim.b...@cern.ch wrote: There are currently 35% of openstack

[Openstack-operators] Deprecation of in tree EC2 API in Nova for Kilo release

2015-01-28 Thread Sean Dague
The following review for Kilo deprecates the EC2 API in Nova - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/150929/ There are a number of reasons for this. The EC2 API has been slowly rotting in the Nova tree, never was highly tested, implements a substantially older version of what AWS has, and currently