Re: [Openstack-operators] OpenStack Tuning Guide
Yep, I 100% agree, and that's my goal. Gather up everyone's info and best practices, and then work on distilling it into a new chapter (or perhaps even a whole new section) of the operators or administration guide. Thanks for all the great feedback so far, let's keep it up! -- Kevin On 11/4/15, 4:40 PM, "Matt Kassawara" <mkassaw...@gmail.com> wrote: >The official documentation would greatly benefit from more practical >information such as tuning... most likely in the administration or operations >guide, at least for now. Ideally, I would like to see a operators contribute >documentation for > complete production deployments that others can use as a reference for new > deployments and avoid reinventing the wheel. > >On Wed, Nov 4, 2015 at 4:27 PM, Leslie-Alexandre DENIS ><cont...@ladenis.fr> wrote: > >Hello there, > >Very interesting initiative ! I'm currently working on the performance side >too on our (french astrophysics cloud) OpenStack deployment but to say so >currently I'm just following what CERN did regarding to Nova/CPU configuration. >It's essentially around KSM, NUMA, CPU pinning, EPT and performance measures >are compared through Spec 06 benchmarks, which is standard for HPC/HTC >computing. > >You can take a look at the very interesting blog from CERN here >http://openstack-in-production.blogspot.fr/ ><http://openstack-in-production.blogspot.fr/> and if you want I have few >slides from various meetings like HEPIX on these subjects. > >Following the etherpad ! > >Regards, > > >Le 05/11/2015 00:11, Donald Talton a écrit : > >Awesome start. Rabbit fd tweaks are the bane of every install...including some >of my own... > >-Original Message- >From: Kevin Bringard (kevinbri) [mailto:kevin...@cisco.com] >Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2015 3:56 PM >To: OpenStack Operators >Subject: [Openstack-operators] OpenStack Tuning Guide > >Hey all! > >Something that jumped out at me in Tokyo was how much it seemed that "basic" >tuning stuff wasn't common knowledge. This was especially prevalent in the >couple of rabbit talks I went to. So, in order to pool our resources, I >started an Etherpad titled the "OpenStack > Tuning Guide" (https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/OpenStack_Tuning_Guide). > Eventually I expect this should go into the documentation project, and much > of it > may already exist in the operators manual (or elsewhere), but I thought that > getting us all together to drop in our hints, tweaks, and best practices for > tuning our systems to run OpenStack well, in real production, would be time > well spent. > >It's a work in progress at the moment, and we've only just started, but please >feel free to check it out. Feedback and community involvement is super >welcome, so please don't hesitate to modify it as you see fit. > >Finally, I hate diverging resources, so if something like this already exists >please speak up so we can focus our efforts on making sure that's up to date >and well publicized. > >Thanks everyone! > >-- Kevin >___ >OpenStack-operators mailing list >OpenStack-operators@lists.openstack.org >http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-operators > >This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential, proprietary and >intended solely for the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If >you have received this email in error please delete it immediately. > > >___ >OpenStack-operators mailing list >OpenStack-operators@lists.openstack.org >http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-operators > > > > >___ >OpenStack-operators mailing list >OpenStack-operators@lists.openstack.org >http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-operators > > > > > > > ___ OpenStack-operators mailing list OpenStack-operators@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-operators
Re: [Openstack-operators] OpenStack Tuning Guide
Great Kevin. Thanks for honchoing and sharing. On Wed, Nov 4, 2015 at 3:56 PM, Kevin Bringard (kevinbri) < kevin...@cisco.com> wrote: > Hey all! > > Something that jumped out at me in Tokyo was how much it seemed that > "basic" tuning stuff wasn't common knowledge. This was especially prevalent > in the couple of rabbit talks I went to. So, in order to pool our > resources, I started an Etherpad titled the "OpenStack Tuning Guide" ( > https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/OpenStack_Tuning_Guide). Eventually I > expect this should go into the documentation project, and much of it may > already exist in the operators manual (or elsewhere), but I thought that > getting us all together to drop in our hints, tweaks, and best practices > for tuning our systems to run OpenStack well, in real production, would be > time well spent. > > It's a work in progress at the moment, and we've only just started, but > please feel free to check it out. Feedback and community involvement is > super welcome, so please don't hesitate to modify it as you see fit. > > Finally, I hate diverging resources, so if something like this already > exists please speak up so we can focus our efforts on making sure that's up > to date and well publicized. > > Thanks everyone! > > -- Kevin > ___ > OpenStack-operators mailing list > OpenStack-operators@lists.openstack.org > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-operators > ___ OpenStack-operators mailing list OpenStack-operators@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-operators
Re: [Openstack-operators] OpenStack Tuning Guide
Awesome start. Rabbit fd tweaks are the bane of every install...including some of my own... -Original Message- From: Kevin Bringard (kevinbri) [mailto:kevin...@cisco.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2015 3:56 PM To: OpenStack Operators Subject: [Openstack-operators] OpenStack Tuning Guide Hey all! Something that jumped out at me in Tokyo was how much it seemed that "basic" tuning stuff wasn't common knowledge. This was especially prevalent in the couple of rabbit talks I went to. So, in order to pool our resources, I started an Etherpad titled the "OpenStack Tuning Guide" (https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/OpenStack_Tuning_Guide). Eventually I expect this should go into the documentation project, and much of it may already exist in the operators manual (or elsewhere), but I thought that getting us all together to drop in our hints, tweaks, and best practices for tuning our systems to run OpenStack well, in real production, would be time well spent. It's a work in progress at the moment, and we've only just started, but please feel free to check it out. Feedback and community involvement is super welcome, so please don't hesitate to modify it as you see fit. Finally, I hate diverging resources, so if something like this already exists please speak up so we can focus our efforts on making sure that's up to date and well publicized. Thanks everyone! -- Kevin ___ OpenStack-operators mailing list OpenStack-operators@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-operators This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential, proprietary and intended solely for the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please delete it immediately. ___ OpenStack-operators mailing list OpenStack-operators@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-operators
Re: [Openstack-operators] OpenStack Tuning Guide
Hi Kevin, Oops, noticed I didn't reply to all the first time. I think it's great to see more people who want to collect and distil knowledge like this. :) Finally, I hate diverging resources, so if something like this already > exists please speak up so we can focus our efforts on making sure that's up > to date and well publicized. > These may be complementary / sibling, but thought I'd mention them: * Hypervisor Tuning Guide[1] * Performance Team[2] 1: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-operators/2015-October/008557.html 2: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-October/078028.html Thanks, Joe ___ OpenStack-operators mailing list OpenStack-operators@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-operators
Re: [Openstack-operators] OpenStack Tuning Guide
Hello there, Very interesting initiative ! I'm currently working on the performance side too on our (french astrophysics cloud) OpenStack deployment but to say so currently I'm just following what CERN did regarding to Nova/CPU configuration. It's essentially around KSM, NUMA, CPU pinning, EPT and performance measures are compared through Spec 06 benchmarks, which is standard for HPC/HTC computing. You can take a look at the very interesting blog from CERN here http://openstack-in-production.blogspot.fr/ and if you want I have few slides from various meetings like HEPIX on these subjects. Following the etherpad ! Regards, Le 05/11/2015 00:11, Donald Talton a écrit : Awesome start. Rabbit fd tweaks are the bane of every install...including some of my own... -Original Message- From: Kevin Bringard (kevinbri) [mailto:kevin...@cisco.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2015 3:56 PM To: OpenStack Operators Subject: [Openstack-operators] OpenStack Tuning Guide Hey all! Something that jumped out at me in Tokyo was how much it seemed that "basic" tuning stuff wasn't common knowledge. This was especially prevalent in the couple of rabbit talks I went to. So, in order to pool our resources, I started an Etherpad titled the "OpenStack Tuning Guide" (https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/OpenStack_Tuning_Guide). Eventually I expect this should go into the documentation project, and much of it may already exist in the operators manual (or elsewhere), but I thought that getting us all together to drop in our hints, tweaks, and best practices for tuning our systems to run OpenStack well, in real production, would be time well spent. It's a work in progress at the moment, and we've only just started, but please feel free to check it out. Feedback and community involvement is super welcome, so please don't hesitate to modify it as you see fit. Finally, I hate diverging resources, so if something like this already exists please speak up so we can focus our efforts on making sure that's up to date and well publicized. Thanks everyone! -- Kevin ___ OpenStack-operators mailing list OpenStack-operators@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-operators This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential, proprietary and intended solely for the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please delete it immediately. ___ OpenStack-operators mailing list OpenStack-operators@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-operators ___ OpenStack-operators mailing list OpenStack-operators@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-operators
Re: [Openstack-operators] OpenStack Tuning Guide
The official documentation would greatly benefit from more practical information such as tuning... most likely in the administration or operations guide, at least for now. Ideally, I would like to see a operators contribute documentation for complete production deployments that others can use as a reference for new deployments and avoid reinventing the wheel. On Wed, Nov 4, 2015 at 4:27 PM, Leslie-Alexandre DENIS <cont...@ladenis.fr> wrote: > Hello there, > > Very interesting initiative ! I'm currently working on the performance > side too on our (french astrophysics cloud) OpenStack deployment but to say > so currently I'm just following what CERN did regarding to Nova/CPU > configuration. > It's essentially around KSM, NUMA, CPU pinning, EPT and performance > measures are compared through Spec 06 benchmarks, which is standard for > HPC/HTC computing. > > You can take a look at the very interesting blog from CERN here > http://openstack-in-production.blogspot.fr/ and if you want I have few > slides from various meetings like HEPIX on these subjects. > > Following the etherpad ! > > Regards, > > > Le 05/11/2015 00:11, Donald Talton a écrit : > >> Awesome start. Rabbit fd tweaks are the bane of every install...including >> some of my own... >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Kevin Bringard (kevinbri) [mailto:kevin...@cisco.com] >> Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2015 3:56 PM >> To: OpenStack Operators >> Subject: [Openstack-operators] OpenStack Tuning Guide >> >> Hey all! >> >> Something that jumped out at me in Tokyo was how much it seemed that >> "basic" tuning stuff wasn't common knowledge. This was especially prevalent >> in the couple of rabbit talks I went to. So, in order to pool our >> resources, I started an Etherpad titled the "OpenStack Tuning Guide" ( >> https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/OpenStack_Tuning_Guide). Eventually I >> expect this should go into the documentation project, and much of it may >> already exist in the operators manual (or elsewhere), but I thought that >> getting us all together to drop in our hints, tweaks, and best practices >> for tuning our systems to run OpenStack well, in real production, would be >> time well spent. >> >> It's a work in progress at the moment, and we've only just started, but >> please feel free to check it out. Feedback and community involvement is >> super welcome, so please don't hesitate to modify it as you see fit. >> >> Finally, I hate diverging resources, so if something like this already >> exists please speak up so we can focus our efforts on making sure that's up >> to date and well publicized. >> >> Thanks everyone! >> >> -- Kevin >> ___ >> OpenStack-operators mailing list >> OpenStack-operators@lists.openstack.org >> http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-operators >> >> This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential, >> proprietary and intended solely for the individual or entity to whom they >> are addressed. If you have received this email in error please delete it >> immediately. >> >> >> ___ >> OpenStack-operators mailing list >> OpenStack-operators@lists.openstack.org >> http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-operators >> > > > ___ > OpenStack-operators mailing list > OpenStack-operators@lists.openstack.org > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-operators > ___ OpenStack-operators mailing list OpenStack-operators@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-operators