Re: [Openstack-operators] Scaling the Ops Meetup

2015-07-06 Thread Jonathan Proulx
On Wed, Jul 1, 2015 at 3:29 AM, Tom Fifield t...@openstack.org wrote: Team, It's great to see so much passion! :) Here's an attempt at a summary email. I'll wait until a later email to wade into the discussion myself ;) Feel free to jump in on any point. =Things we tend to agree on= snip

Re: [Openstack-operators] Scaling the Ops Meetup

2015-07-06 Thread David Medberry
On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 11:28 AM, Jonathan Proulx j...@jonproulx.com wrote: More tracks makes it harder for small to medium size sites to cover. Not saying we shouldn't expand parallelism but we should be cautious. My site is a private university cloud with order of 100 hypervisors, we're

Re: [Openstack-operators] Scaling the Ops Meetup

2015-07-06 Thread Jonathan Proulx
On Thu, Jul 2, 2015 at 2:26 PM, Jesse Keating j...@bluebox.net wrote: BoD, unless they feel the need to delegate, at which point then maybe an Operators committee. But I'd hate to see more committees created. I feel like this may be a User Committee thing, which is an existing committee and

Re: [Openstack-operators] Scaling the Ops Meetup

2015-07-06 Thread David Medberry
On Thu, Jul 2, 2015 at 9:23 AM, Tom Fifield t...@openstack.org wrote: Venue selection process. At the moment, there's a few of us who work hard in the shadows to make the best choice we can from a range of generous offers :) Maybe you could host in Taiwan Tom or Tim could host in

Re: [Openstack-operators] Scaling the Ops Meetup

2015-07-06 Thread David Medberry
On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 12:14 PM, Anita Kuno ante...@anteaya.info wrote: Right now developers are asking for details so they can decide/plan on attending the next event. Are you close to deciding a location and/or perhaps some dates? Yep, this is becoming a big issue. Several others are just

Re: [Openstack-operators] Scaling the Ops Meetup

2015-07-06 Thread Anita Kuno
On 06/30/2015 12:33 AM, Tom Fifield wrote: Hi all, Right now, behind-the-scenes, we're working on getting a venue for next ops mid-cycle. It's taking a little longer than normal, but rest assured it is happening. Why is it so difficult? As you may have noticed, we're reaching the size of

Re: [Openstack-operators] Scaling the Ops Meetup

2015-07-06 Thread Anita Kuno
On 07/06/2015 05:38 PM, Allison Price wrote: Hi everyone, We are currently finalizing the exact date and location for the ops meetup. We have two strong options that Tom will share more details on shortly, but we are aiming to hold the meetup the week of August 17 -21, leaning towards

Re: [Openstack-operators] Scaling the Ops Meetup

2015-07-02 Thread Tom Fifield
OK, so I'm just going to throw this one out there to re-stoke the discussion ... Venue selection process. At the moment, there's a few of us who work hard in the shadows to make the best choice we can from a range of generous offers :) In our brave new world, I think this should be a bit more

Re: [Openstack-operators] Scaling the Ops Meetup

2015-07-02 Thread Jesse Keating
Honestly I'm fine with the elected board helping to make this decision. Folks that want to underwrite the event can submit a proposal to host, board picks from the submissions? Having a wide vote on it seems overkill to me. Open call for submissions, board votes. Is that unreasonable? - jlk On

Re: [Openstack-operators] Scaling the Ops Meetup

2015-07-02 Thread Matt Fischer
Are you proposing an Operators committee or do you mean the OpenStack BoD? On Thu, Jul 2, 2015 at 12:15 PM, Jesse Keating j...@bluebox.net wrote: Honestly I'm fine with the elected board helping to make this decision. Folks that want to underwrite the event can submit a proposal to host,

Re: [Openstack-operators] Scaling the Ops Meetup

2015-07-02 Thread David Medberry
On Thu, Jul 2, 2015 at 9:23 AM, Tom Fifield t...@openstack.org wrote: Venue selection process. At the moment, there's a few of us who work hard in the shadows to make the best choice we can from a range of generous offers :) Many thanks. I know this is a bit of a PITA. In our brave new

Re: [Openstack-operators] Scaling the Ops Meetup

2015-07-02 Thread Jesse Keating
BoD, unless they feel the need to delegate, at which point then maybe an Operators committee. But I'd hate to see more committees created. - jlk On Thu, Jul 2, 2015 at 11:23 AM, Matt Fischer m...@mattfischer.com wrote: Are you proposing an Operators committee or do you mean the OpenStack BoD?

Re: [Openstack-operators] Scaling the Ops Meetup

2015-07-02 Thread Matt Joyce
I just assumed this whole outfit was ran by some shadowy kabal. I feel very disillusioned now. -Matt On July 2, 2015 2:26:47 PM EDT, Jesse Keating j...@bluebox.net wrote: BoD, unless they feel the need to delegate, at which point then maybe an Operators committee. But I'd hate to see more

Re: [Openstack-operators] Scaling the Ops Meetup

2015-07-02 Thread Matt Joyce
+1 On July 2, 2015 2:15:02 PM EDT, Jesse Keating j...@bluebox.net wrote: Honestly I'm fine with the elected board helping to make this decision. Folks that want to underwrite the event can submit a proposal to host, board picks from the submissions? Having a wide vote on it seems overkill to me.

Re: [Openstack-operators] Scaling the Ops Meetup

2015-07-01 Thread Tom Fifield
Team, It's great to see so much passion! :) Here's an attempt at a summary email. I'll wait until a later email to wade into the discussion myself ;) Feel free to jump in on any point. =Things we tend to agree on= Spirit of the event * The response most people had in common was that they didn't

Re: [Openstack-operators] Scaling the Ops Meetup

2015-06-30 Thread Joseph Bajin
:* Tuesday, June 30, 2015 6:10 PM *To:* Jesse Keating; Matt Fischer *Cc:* OpenStack Operators *Subject:* Re: [Openstack-operators] Scaling the Ops Meetup I pretty much agree with everyone so far. No vendor booths, distributed “underwriters”, modest registration fee, and sans evening event

Re: [Openstack-operators] Scaling the Ops Meetup

2015-06-30 Thread Kris G. Lindgren
...@mattfischer.com Date: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 at 6:22 PM To: Edgar Magana edgar.mag...@workday.commailto:edgar.mag...@workday.com Cc: OpenStack Operators openstack-operators@lists.openstack.orgmailto:openstack-operators@lists.openstack.org Subject: Re: [Openstack-operators] Scaling the Ops Meetup I

Re: [Openstack-operators] Scaling the Ops Meetup

2015-06-30 Thread Shilla Saebi
Tom, First off, thank you for organizing this event. It has proven to be a success and the growth shows how much interest there is in the community. A couple of ideas came to mind when I read your e-mail. What about breaking the event up into regions? Or having additional sponsors that are users

Re: [Openstack-operators] Scaling the Ops Meetup

2015-06-30 Thread David Medberry
Hi Tom, et al, 1) I think corporate operators are fine sponsors (or as I prefer, underwriters) of the event. But with modest/token acknowledgement only of their largesse. * 2) No vendor booths. I'm fine with an Oprah sponsorship goodie bag on the chairs or at registration time, but nothing more

Re: [Openstack-operators] Scaling the Ops Meetup

2015-06-30 Thread Joe Topjian
Hi Tom, I think this is a great problem to have. Difficult to solve, but it shows how popular / important these meetups are. I'm definitely in favor of a no booths type meetup. I feel if a company wants to sponsor, they're doing it out of good will and any recognition would come from that. I'd

Re: [Openstack-operators] Scaling the Ops Meetup

2015-06-30 Thread David Medberry
On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 9:56 AM, Joe Topjian j...@topjian.net wrote: I wouldn't be opposed to having a paid registration for the meetup. Could the amount be polled if paid registration is considered? We (TWC) is also in favor of having paid registration as well as a slush fund for

Re: [Openstack-operators] Scaling the Ops Meetup

2015-06-30 Thread matt
+1 on the no booths rule. -1 on paid registration, I think we need to be mindful of the smaller openstack deployers, their voice is an important one, and their access to the larger operations teams is invaluable to them. I like the idea of local teams showing up because it's in the neighborhood

Re: [Openstack-operators] Scaling the Ops Meetup

2015-06-30 Thread Jesse Keating
Hi Tom, thanks for bringing up the subject. Like many commenters I share some of the same views. I'm very +1 on preventing vendor booth space from happening. This isn't an event to sell a product, booth space would be wasted on both the attendees and the booth staff. I feel that multiple

Re: [Openstack-operators] Scaling the Ops Meetup

2015-06-30 Thread Mike Dorman
ballpark figures based on past events, so we have some more data points? Thanks!! Mike From: Jesse Keating Date: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 at 1:06 PM To: Matt Fischer Cc: OpenStack Operators Subject: Re: [Openstack-operators] Scaling the Ops Meetup RE Evening event: I agree it was pretty crowded. Perhaps

Re: [Openstack-operators] Scaling the Ops Meetup

2015-06-30 Thread Edgar Magana
Tom, In my opinion, we should not have booths at all. Actually, we should just only have Operators attending this meetup with a limit of three attendees by company. During the Philadelphia one I noticed that many of the attendees where from the same company and I do not believe those companies