Re: [Openstack-operators] [openstack-dev] RFC: Next minimum libvirt / QEMU versions for "Stein" release

2018-04-10 Thread Kashyap Chamarthy
On Mon, Apr 09, 2018 at 04:24:06PM -0500, Matt Riedemann wrote: > On 4/9/2018 4:58 AM, Kashyap Chamarthy wrote: > > Keep in mind that Matt has a tendency to sometimes unfairly > > over-simplify others views;-). More seriously, c'mon Matt; I went out > > of my way to spend time learning about

Re: [Openstack-operators] [openstack-dev] RFC: Next minimum libvirt / QEMU versions for "Stein" release

2018-04-09 Thread Matt Riedemann
On 4/9/2018 4:58 AM, Kashyap Chamarthy wrote: Keep in mind that Matt has a tendency to sometimes unfairly over-simplify others views;-). More seriously, c'mon Matt; I went out of my way to spend time learning about Debian's packaging structure and trying to get the details right by talking to

Re: [Openstack-operators] [openstack-dev] RFC: Next minimum libvirt / QEMU versions for "Stein" release

2018-04-09 Thread Kashyap Chamarthy
On Fri, Apr 06, 2018 at 12:12:31PM -0500, Matt Riedemann wrote: > On 4/6/2018 12:07 PM, Kashyap Chamarthy wrote: > > FWIW, I'd suggest so, if it's not too much maintenance. It'll just > > spare you additional bug reports in that area, and the overall default > > experience when dealing with CPU

Re: [Openstack-operators] [openstack-dev] RFC: Next minimum libvirt / QEMU versions for "Stein" release

2018-04-06 Thread Matt Riedemann
On 4/6/2018 12:07 PM, Kashyap Chamarthy wrote: FWIW, I'd suggest so, if it's not too much maintenance. It'll just spare you additional bug reports in that area, and the overall default experience when dealing with CPU models would be relatively much better. (Another way to look at it is,

Re: [Openstack-operators] [openstack-dev] RFC: Next minimum libvirt / QEMU versions for "Stein" release

2018-04-06 Thread Kashyap Chamarthy
On Fri, Apr 06, 2018 at 06:07:18PM +0200, Thomas Goirand wrote: > On 04/06/2018 12:07 PM, Kashyap Chamarthy wrote: [...] > > Note: You don't even have to build the versions from 'Buster', which are > > quite new. Just the slightly more conservative libvirt 3.2.0 and QEMU > > 2.9.0 -- only if

Re: [Openstack-operators] [openstack-dev] RFC: Next minimum libvirt / QEMU versions for "Stein" release

2018-04-06 Thread Kashyap Chamarthy
On Thu, Apr 05, 2018 at 06:11:26PM -0500, Matt Riedemann wrote: > On 4/5/2018 3:32 PM, Thomas Goirand wrote: > > If you don't absolutely need new features from libvirt 3.2.0 and 3.0.0 > > is fine, please choose 3.0.0 as minimum. > > > > If you don't absolutely need new features from qemu 2.9.0

Re: [Openstack-operators] [openstack-dev] RFC: Next minimum libvirt / QEMU versions for "Stein" release

2018-04-06 Thread Kashyap Chamarthy
On Thu, Apr 05, 2018 at 10:32:13PM +0200, Thomas Goirand wrote: Hey Zigo, thanks for the detailed response; a couple of comments below. [...] > backport of libvirt/QEMU/libguestfs more in details > --- > > I already attempted the backports from

Re: [Openstack-operators] [openstack-dev] RFC: Next minimum libvirt / QEMU versions for "Stein" release

2018-04-05 Thread Matt Riedemann
On 4/5/2018 3:32 PM, Thomas Goirand wrote: If you don't absolutely need new features from libvirt 3.2.0 and 3.0.0 is fine, please choose 3.0.0 as minimum. If you don't absolutely need new features from qemu 2.9.0 and 2.8.0 is fine, please choose 2.8.0 as minimum. If you don't absolutely need

Re: [Openstack-operators] [openstack-dev] RFC: Next minimum libvirt / QEMU versions for "Stein" release

2018-04-05 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 04/04/2018 10:45 AM, Kashyap Chamarthy wrote: > Answering my own questions about Debian -- > > From looking at the Debian Archive[1][2], these are the versions for > 'Stretch' (the current stable release) and in the upcoming 'Buster' > release: > > libvirt | 3.0.0-4+deb9u2 |

Re: [Openstack-operators] [openstack-dev] RFC: Next minimum libvirt / QEMU versions for "Stein" release

2018-04-04 Thread Kashyap Chamarthy
On Sat, Mar 31, 2018 at 04:09:29PM +0200, Kashyap Chamarthy wrote: > [Meta comment: corrected the email subject: "Solar" --> "Stein"] Here's a change to get the discussion rolling: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/558171/ -- [RFC] Pick next minimum libvirt / QEMU versions for "Stein" >