Re: [Openstack-poc] making ppb meetings better (?)

2011-09-12 Thread Thierry Carrez
John Dickinson wrote: I have found the PPB meetings to be very disjointed and hard to follow. A classic example is from our last meeting where 3 votes were proposed and only 2 were voted on. At times we have several conversations going on at once. Sometimes we vote, someone continues the

Re: [Openstack-poc] making ppb meetings better (?)

2011-09-12 Thread Jonathan Bryce
Thanks John for bringing this up and everyone for the input. This is good feedback. Here are a couple of my thoughts on it: 1) I agree that the meetings get rather chaotic at times. I would say that most of the time that situation is less related to non-PPB users and more related to those of

Re: [Openstack-poc] making ppb meetings better (?)

2011-09-12 Thread John Dickinson
On Sep 12, 2011, at 11:14 AM, Jonathan Bryce wrote: Thanks John for bringing this up and everyone for the input. This is good feedback. Here are a couple of my thoughts on it: 1) I agree that the meetings get rather chaotic at times. I would say that most of the time that situation is

Re: [Openstack-poc] making ppb meetings better (?)

2011-09-12 Thread Jonathan Bryce
3) Along the lines of getting community feedback, do you all think that we should move to a two-part process where we discuss, send to a summary to the community requesting comments and then vote? Should we just try to gather feedback before we ever discuss? I'd suggest that for most

[Openstack-poc] making ppb meetings better (?)

2011-09-09 Thread John Dickinson
I have found the PPB meetings to be very disjointed and hard to follow. A classic example is from our last meeting where 3 votes were proposed and only 2 were voted on. At times we have several conversations going on at once. Sometimes we vote, someone continues the discussion, and then we

Re: [Openstack-poc] making ppb meetings better (?)

2011-09-09 Thread Paul Voccio
John, We were just discussing this problem the other day. I'm hesitant to mute people, but the chaos is hard to follow. I often have to go back and read the logs to study what people's opinions are. I would be interested in trying some of your suggestions with the appropriate time for comments

Re: [Openstack-poc] making ppb meetings better (?)

2011-09-09 Thread John Dickinson
To be clear, I too am hesitant to mute people. I do not want muting to be seen as a tool used to silence discussion or opinions. I only see it as useful as a potential way to organize the discussion to allow for more clarity. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 9, 2011, at 2:00 PM, Paul Voccio

Re: [Openstack-poc] making ppb meetings better (?)

2011-09-09 Thread Monty Taylor
++ On 09/09/2011 03:07 PM, John Dickinson wrote: To be clear, I too am hesitant to mute people. I do not want muting to be seen as a tool used to silence discussion or opinions. I only see it as useful as a potential way to organize the discussion to allow for more clarity. Sent from my