, and it even seems kind of dangerous and non
sensical, since you can set conflicting values.
I think that Glance and its different services should only use on file
to be configured, using subsection to configure specific app variable
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appropriate. It shouldn't get in
anyone's way, and it shouldn't need to be updated. So we could look for
a file called, say '.git-review' with the URL, and if it's not found,
prompt the user.
That sounds like a really good idea. :)
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On Fri, Oct 14 2011, John Dickinson wrote:
I'd much prefer storing data in git config rather than in a dot file.
A dot file is commit-able. Git config is not.
So in this case, providing the dot file wins. Think about like a
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Would it be possible to use git tags to mark released version?
For example, I'm trying to find the latest Keystone release in Git, but
there's no tag. It seems a bit messy, or do I miss something?
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question is: where is the tag 2011.3.1, which should
probably reference the commit 6baa62c28fd5594127017be3680eee6578b4b7f6 ?
(Cc'ing Dolph Mathews)
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really have an opinion on
the subject. It's just that I saw the commit and though the release was
done but without the proper tag.
Sorry for the noise then. :)
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On Tue, Nov 15 2011, Julien Danjou wrote:
Would it be possible to use git tags to mark released version?
It seems to me that python-novaclient has no tag.
Is it possible to solve this?
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that's not something you can improvise.
It's more important to understand the needs of the packagers (e.g. a
proper setup.py) than to try to do their jobs worse.
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On Tue, Nov 22 2011, Julien Danjou wrote:
It seems to me that python-novaclient has no tag.
Is it possible to solve this?
Ping ?
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a previous version with some random tag
if that helps you, but it wouldn't mean that much ?
No, don't worry. As long as you promise to tag subsequent release, I'm
happy. :)
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think all are bugs.
Even if you understand some of them and considers them to be logical,
you should not see ugly backtraces. You should see nice log lines any
system administrator can read and understand clearly.
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Hi,
https://launchpad.net/quantum/essex/essex-2 says essex-2 for quantum is
release, but I don't see any Git tags.
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to have 2 clients libraries and use them both in
the project. Is there a goal to unify these two, to drop one, or
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On Fri, Dec 16 2011, Dan Wendlandt wrote:
Apologies. Because Quantum is still in incubation, the tag is not created
automatically and I forgot to do it manually after sending out the release
email last night.
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don't want non-breaking changes in the core
API to break existing extensions. It's easier to just add an extension
rather than extend the core spec.
Ahah. Reminds me of the X11 protocol.
Be careful, in 20 years you might regret it. :)
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Any idea what could be wrong ?
You must `nova-cert' daemon running to make this work.
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that this rule should probably be set to something else by
default, like the user is admin if it has role admin on a specific
tenant (like a tenant named `admin'). Tthat would allow to emulate the
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the same thing twice in the same time
frame.
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On Mon, Apr 16 2012, Julien Danjou wrote:
I'm adding a note about where the numbers come from.
Volumetry:
- 450 GB of storage used (each node has 19 TB)
This has been measured with:
df -h /srv/node/c0d0p1
- 57 accounts
- 7929 containers in 7870 partitions
- 58158 objects partitions used
On Mon, Apr 16 2012, Julien Danjou wrote:
Thanks for any hint or helpful comment about this!
I'm adding swift configuration files, just in case.
object-server.conf
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account-server.conf
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container-server.conf
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didn't find any good idea
where to hook the agent for v1 and v2. If anyone has one, feel free to
update the wiki.
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I wish I could use nova.service.Service, but the code is too RPC
oriented so that it can't grab notification from the notifier, so for
now the daemon is rather simple.
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it at least, but that does not seem possible neither.
On the other hand, even if it's not the cleanest way to do things, I
kind of like using the Service class so I'll probably grab your code
anyway. :-)
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miss the point of the introduction of a dedicated metadata table with
version string. It sounds to me like early optimization, which is the
root of all evil. :) But I might miss something.
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On Tue, May 15 2012, Loic Dachary wrote:
On 05/15/2012 12:05 PM, Julien Danjou wrote:
OTOH I find the metadata proposal in another table too much
complicated. Why not storing what metadata in the meter.payload field
in the same table (e.g. as a JSON string)?
I would be much simpler to store
On Wed, May 16 2012, Loic Dachary wrote:
It makes sense and I updated the wiki accordingly:
http://wiki.openstack.org/EfficientMetering?action=diffrev2=81rev1=80
What do you think ?
I think we can remove the payload field, since it's stored in
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choosing a tool for which the other projects have no driver, leading us to
have to create one and add a new dependency to the project.
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Hi,
It seems the Stackforge server has a little problem lately. I'm unable
to post a review on Gerrit, nor to use git-review:
error: unpack failed: error No space left on device
fatal: Unpack error, check server log
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On Mon, May 21 2012, Andrew Hutchings wrote:
Should be OK now. Please let me know if you run into any problems.
Everything seems fine now, thanks Andrew!
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/stackforge/ceilometer/commit/5717e9c5c9a029d1b1daa72f2e7ac0ab1039bf0c
- I've added some code to fetch CPU time from libvirt
https://github.com/stackforge/ceilometer/commit/cc5b02dc84e26af050a0983764a5977e25bd3726
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On Wed, May 23 2012, Julien Danjou wrote:
Hi,
The metering project team holds a meeting in #openstack-meeting,
Thursdays at 1600 UTC
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?hour=16min=0sec=0.
Everyone is welcome.
http://wiki.openstack.org/Meetings/MeteringAgenda
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for someone that understand this to help.
From what I see, it's likely we would like to use the default
python_jobs template.
If anything is missing on our side to use the standard set of checks,
we'll do what is necessary to be able to use them. :)
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evolve and discover counters by themselves.
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- Add listeners for other instance-related events
https://github.com/stackforge/ceilometer/commit/d615fb872ddceaf1ddef7e3997bcf2523cab283e
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On Wed, May 30 2012, Julien Danjou wrote:
The metering project team holds a meeting in #openstack-meeting,
Thursdays at 1600 UTC
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?hour=16min=0sec=0.
Everyone is welcome.
http://wiki.openstack.org/Meetings/MeteringAgenda
Topic: API
On Tue, May 29 2012, Julien Danjou wrote:
We noticed that currently, on Stackforge, the ceilometer project has
only one Jenkins job, checking that the merge occurs correctly.
We'd like to add jobs to run unit tests, pep8, etc… I took a look at the
openstack-ci-puppet repo, but I'm not sure
. A problem that no other OpenStack components tried
to resolved, AFAIK. So I don't see why we should try to resolve
configuration deployment in ceilometer when it's a much larger issue in
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to resolved, AFAIK. So I don't see why we should try to resolve
configuration deployment in ceilometer when it's a much larger issue in
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much grained your metering/billing will be. E.g. if
it's 1 hour, you won't charge anything used for less than one hour. You
probably wants something like 5 minutes or less, and be sure the agent
can keep up with the needed polling speed. :)
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better all components can
rely on.
I'm just having the feeling we're going out of scope here.
But this is just my opinion. :)
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availability, SPOF etc.)
* Agent configuration mechanism
https://lists.launchpad.net/openstack/msg12760.html
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On Wed, Jun 06 2012, Julien Danjou wrote:
Hi,
The metering project team holds a meeting in #openstack-meeting,
Thursdays at 1600 UTC
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?hour=16min=0sec=0.
Everyone is welcome.
http://wiki.openstack.org/Meetings/MeteringAgenda
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a stable interface we can rely on, or is
there a better way to do so?
Thanks in advance,
Regards,
¹ http://launchpad.net/ceilometer
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this here:
http://wiki.openstack.org/GerritWorkflow
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or not deployed. The changes are:
https://github.com/openstack/openstack-ci-puppet/commit/15e8d50de49dccb5958ec241638e7609d722d697
Could someone check this both issues?
Thanks in advance!
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confirms there was no
problem with deployment. The Zuul service, however, was not running.
This has been fixed.
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but it has been
successful. But it reviews and reports as LOST.
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Hi,
The metering project team holds a meeting in #openstack-meeting,
Thursdays at 1600 UTC
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?hour=16min=0sec=0.
Everyone is welcome.
Agenda:
http://wiki.openstack.org/Meetings/MeteringAgenda
* Review last week's actions
* Discuss and vote
On Thu, Jun 28 2012, Doug Hellmann wrote:
I propose that we move the code that connects to libvirt and gets the list
of instances into the class that calls the pollsters (AgentManager) so we
can support both calling patterns. That will make the AgentManager the
ComputeAgentManager (since
On Thu, Jun 28 2012, Doug Hellmann wrote:
I'm not sure we need that many different managers. If we only need a
couple, we could just have separate wrapper scripts like we do for the
collector and agent now.
That makes me think about how nova-api works. We can mimic that.
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On Fri, Jun 29 2012, Doug Hellmann wrote:
Thoughts?
Please correct me if I'm wrong.
What I understand is that you're saying that something like:
GET
v1/[SOURCES/SOURCE/]USERS/USER_ID/RESOURCES/RESOURCE_ID/METER/VOLUME
as defined in the current API draft, for a counter like instance CPU
On Fri, Jun 29 2012, Doug Hellmann wrote:
We do have counters for RAM and CPU separate from instance. But the rate at
which the provider bills for those things may vary based on metadata. My
example may be bad because it uses 2 values we're measuring, one of which
also shows up in the
. So currently, it seems that the API is
not designed correctly to handle such a case, and since it's not yet
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Thanks for your work Andrew. It seems to work fine so far, I've already
sent a review request to test. :)
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correctly, that would mean the API is non-usable
for anybody wanting to do fine-grained billing and they would have to
connect to the database engine directly?
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On Thu, Jul 05 2012, Nick Barcet wrote:
Makes sense?
Yes. And we can probably bend the current API a bit to enhance things. :)
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Great! I'll be there, hopefully joined by other team members.
I will try to make it, too.
I won't be there, but I trust Nick Doug. :)
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Done.
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On Thu, Jul 19 2012, Julien Danjou wrote:
Here is the summary of the meeting:
Meeting started by jd___ at 16:03:44 UTC. The full logs are available
at
http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack-meeting/2012/openstack-meeting.2012-07-19-16.03.log.html
.
Meeting summary
Hi,
The PTL election for Ceilometer¹ is over.
The winner is Nick Barcet.
Congratulations !
The results are available here:
http://www.opavote.org/vote/491028
¹ http://wiki.openstack.org/EfficientMetering/PTLElectionProcess
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of the time I guess) in France
- 14:00 for Doug
- 7:00 for Angus
or UTC 06:00:
- 08:00 for me (and Nick most of the time I guess) in France
- 23:00 for Doug
- 16:00 for Angus
(Hope I did not get the math wrong)
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. It's the Ubuntu
package that is wrong here, IMO.
Is it me, but I don't see any getent? Anyway, I think getent isn't the
way togo neither, the current implementation is fine, adduser does not
fail if a group or a user already exists.
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On Wed, Sep 05 2012, Ola Lundqvist wrote:
Do you mean that Ubuntu should no longer provide it?
I think so, indeed.
But why do ubuntu conflict novnc? Or is it so that ubuntu does nto
have novnc?
Honestly, I don't know. :)
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a week left until release and if we can
get this committed and QA'd in time, that would be lovely.
This has been merged by the time you wrote the mail I think. :-)
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-volume-usage-audit regularly to get messages.
third,I can only see cpu,disk,and network info for instance in the meter
data by now ,but there is no memory info,so why?
Make sure you enabled the notifications via RabbitMQ in nova.
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your
PaaS platform to bill your customer.
Or is there a limitation I miss?
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using the meter
on the VM (and here bill the IaaS part).
So the relationship is stored in Ceilometer (via metadata) and you can
exploit it to build a more complex billing system with more layers.
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with
the meter. Then you could query the ceilometer db for that group.
What about sending meters where the resource is the group and not the
instances?
(What do you meter exactly on such a group? I'm not really familiar with
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what's needed just
ways to filter and/or group events by metadata fields?
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performance with indexes in
Mongo.
Ah, thanks to remind me how ORM are bad and that we now have to fight
against it. :)
I wish we could use JSON native type from PostgreSQL directly and be
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is a cumulative one,
and asking for its sum is a non-sense. You want to ask for (max - min)
to get the used value, something which is not in the API yet.
5) If I want to know how long has vm_1's cpu been used yesterday, how
can I do ?
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https://bugs.launchpad.net/ceilometer/+bug/1061817
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it's more expense in theory, but in practice I'm rather than with a
good back-end it's not a problem (either pre-compute or have the right
toolslike PostgreSQL).
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problem would occur if the instance was being
regularly restarted with a higher frequency than the polling period.
Yes, but in that case, whatever counting method you use, you're screwed.
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TRANSIENT_CUMULATIVE, if that's not too much of a
mouthful.
We discussed it already with Doug, and came to conclusion that we
didn't, because the monotonic case is just a special case of the non
monotonic one. So applying the computing method to the non-monotonic
case will solve all problem.
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On Thu, Nov 01 2012, 吴亚伟 wrote:
Is the API capable to deal with that at present? If not, when?
Not yet. When someone will write with the code!
Is the Web API in the document going to be updated recently?
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where each value is the difference between the
current and the previous value. Each value represents how many things
were consumed since last time a value has been sent.
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2) Could it be useful to enhance the Ceilometer agent to collect data from
the physical servers?
Why not. What do you have in mind exactly?
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be a
problem indeed, but it's still solvable later and would be easy to solve
if this in a different agent, since you could change the periodic
interval for pollster runs to something like 1 or 5 minutes.
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need to transform cumulative into delta, and certainly not in the
pollster/agents/notifications code?
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that, because CW don't
offer any other mean (I imagine) to handle cumulative value like
Ceilometer does. :)
(But I know that currently we don't have multi-publisher, and that's why
it's done that way in #14921 :)
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bus.
What makes you think an agent would run inside an instance? I mean, this
is not what this is about, we're talking about hardware running OS.
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talking about the former in this thread so far. :)
For the latter, there's indeed this kind of problem, but I don't think
we really want to meter resources on that. Well, at least I don't see
the point and how it can be safe anyway.
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(bare-metal)
rather than virtual instances as a flavor in Nova.
For such case, we won't be able to poll anything about the hardware.
For hardware ran by the operator, this will be doable.
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of the meters to a
string that helps you recognize which region the meter come from (see
counter_source option in Ceilometer).
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meeting next week.
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data replication/distinguish/isolation among
multi-DCs?
You can deploy several ceilometer and use several databases, or just one
and use a different 'source' field for each of your region/cluster to
differentiate where meters come from.
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to the API design we have now, there is no API can
do that directly unless you do some complex API calls combination.
I think you can use:
GET /v1/sources/swift-cluster-1/projects/project/meters/meter
in that case, no?
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