Re: [Openstack] Issues with Packaging and a Proposal

2011-08-25 Thread Mark McLoughlin
Hi Soren, On Wed, 2011-08-24 at 22:11 +0200, Soren Hansen wrote: 2011/8/24 Monty Taylor mord...@inaugust.com: - Lack of RPM support. Turns out RPM distros are still kind of popular, and at least one of our major contributors (hi, NTT) rolls out on RHEL/CentOS, and one of our partners who

Re: [Openstack] Guidelines for OpenStack APIs

2011-09-19 Thread Mark McLoughlin
Hi, On Sun, 2011-09-18 at 22:38 -0500, Jonathan Bryce wrote: After the mailing list discussion around APIs a few weeks back, several community members asked the Project Policy Board to come up with a position on APIs. The conclusion of the PPB was that each project's PTL will own the

Re: [Openstack] Nova Gerrit Move

2011-09-23 Thread Mark McLoughlin
On Thu, 2011-09-22 at 23:34 -0700, Vishvananda Ishaya wrote: Hey Everyone, Now that we've cut the Diablo release, we are moving Nova code hosting over to Github and reviews to Gerrit. Gerrit is new for those of you who haven't been contributing to the other projects that have already

Re: [Openstack] Review Spam

2011-09-23 Thread Mark McLoughlin
Hi Vish, On Fri, 2011-09-23 at 10:04 -0700, Vishvananda Ishaya wrote: 2) Sorry about the review spam earlier. I was trying to bring in an old branch and keep the commit history. It seems that in the new world of gerrit, we're going to end up squashing everything in to one commit anyway so

Re: [Openstack] Access an instance via its public (floating ip) from within the same instance

2011-10-10 Thread Mark McLoughlin
Hi Kiall, On Sun, 2011-10-09 at 22:41 +0100, Kiall Mac Innes wrote: Hiya, I'm looking to find out if there is any way to access an instance via its public (floating ip) from within the same instance. The docs mention that this is not possible here:

Re: [Openstack] Access an instance via its public (floating ip) from within the same instance

2011-10-10 Thread Mark McLoughlin
On Mon, 2011-10-10 at 12:58 +0100, Mark McLoughlin wrote: On Mon, 2011-10-10 at 12:29 +0100, Kiall Mac Innes wrote: Hi Mark, That part I understand :) Consider these rules (nabbed from forum posting herehttp://www.zeroshell.net/eng/forum/viewtopic.php?p=655sid

Re: [Openstack] OpenStack API Versioning Conventions

2011-10-11 Thread Mark McLoughlin
Hi Brian, I think the versioning rules below are fine, but there are some other things to think about: - As others raised, what version (if any) should be in the URIs? We could put the full version number in the URIs so long as we maintain support for the older, compatible versions i.e.

Re: [Openstack] Guidelines for OpenStack APIs

2011-10-11 Thread Mark McLoughlin
On Tue, 2011-10-11 at 16:11 +1100, Mark Nottingham wrote: +1 (sorry for the lag, been travelling). I'd like to start two wiki pages; one collecting goals for the APIs, one for collecting common patterns of use in the APIs (not rules, not even guidelines). Yeah, it'd be awesome to have the

Re: [Openstack] Guidelines for OpenStack APIs

2011-10-11 Thread Mark McLoughlin
Hi Mark, On Tue, 2011-10-11 at 16:17 +1100, Mark Nottingham wrote: On 19/09/2011, at 4:03 PM, Mark McLoughlin wrote: OTOH, POST to update the object's metadata doesn't make much sense. We don't accept the entity enclosed in the request as a new subordinate. PATCH[1] would probably have

Re: [Openstack] OpenStack API Versioning Conventions

2011-10-11 Thread Mark McLoughlin
On Tue, 2011-10-11 at 16:40 +0200, Soren Hansen wrote: 2011/10/11 Mark McLoughlin mar...@redhat.com: I think the versioning rules below are fine, but there are some other things to think about: - As others raised, what version (if any) should be in the URIs? We could put the full

[Openstack] [RFC] Stable branch

2011-10-12 Thread Mark McLoughlin
Hey, I've posted a proposal for how the stable branch could work here: http://wiki.openstack.org/StableBranch and a proposed diablo branch for nova: http://github.com/markmc/nova/tree/diablo The wiki page seems to be 404 for folks for some bizarre reason, but you can get to it from:

Re: [Openstack] [RFC] Stable branch

2011-10-13 Thread Mark McLoughlin
Hi James, On Wed, 2011-10-12 at 13:58 -0400, James E. Blair wrote: Mark McLoughlin mar...@redhat.com writes: Hey, I've posted a proposal for how the stable branch could work here: http://wiki.openstack.org/StableBranch and a proposed diablo branch for nova: http

Re: [Openstack] [RFC] Stable branch

2011-10-13 Thread Mark McLoughlin
On Thu, 2011-10-13 at 09:16 -0400, James E. Blair wrote: Chris Wright chr...@sous-sol.org writes: * Mark McLoughlin (mar...@redhat.com) wrote: On Wed, 2011-10-12 at 13:58 -0400, James E. Blair wrote: Mark McLoughlin mar...@redhat.com writes: Anyone can propose a cherry-pick

Re: [Openstack] openstack-poc [was Re: A possible alternative to Gerrit ...]

2011-10-17 Thread Mark McLoughlin
On Sat, 2011-10-15 at 09:27 -0400, Jay Pipes wrote: On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 4:27 AM, Mark McLoughlin mar...@redhat.com wrote: Hey, On Wed, 2011-09-07 at 19:47 +, Chris Behrens wrote: On Sep 7, 2011, at 11:46 AM, Jay Pipes wrote: Some conversations about GitHub, project autonomy

Re: [Openstack] [RFC] Stable branch

2011-10-17 Thread Mark McLoughlin
Hi James, On Fri, 2011-10-14 at 12:43 -0400, James E. Blair wrote: Mark McLoughlin mar...@redhat.com writes: Each project will have a branch named after the previous release. For example, the stable branch for the diablo release will be simply called 'diablo'. Sounds good. I'll

Re: [Openstack] [RFC] Stable branch

2011-10-18 Thread Mark McLoughlin
Hey, On Mon, 2011-10-17 at 14:22 -0700, Vishvananda Ishaya wrote: Lets get this going asap. We don't really have a place to point people who are deploying diablo and running into bugs. I've pushed the first small batch of commits:

Re: [Openstack] [RFC] Stable branch

2011-10-19 Thread Mark McLoughlin
Hey Dave, On Wed, 2011-10-19 at 09:18 +0100, Dave Walker wrote: On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 04:58:58PM +0100, Mark McLoughlin wrote: Hey, I've posted a proposal for how the stable branch could work here: http://wiki.openstack.org/StableBranch SNIP Hi Mark, Firstly, apologies

[Openstack] [Fwd: Cloud Test Day Today]

2011-10-20 Thread Mark McLoughlin
Hey, FWIW - we're going to be doing a bunch of Fedora 16 OpenStack testing on #fedora-test-day today Cheers, Mark. Forwarded Message From: Tim Flink tfl...@redhat.com Reply-to: Fedora Cloud SIG cl...@lists.fedoraproject.org To: test-annou...@lists.fedoraproject.org,

Re: [Openstack] Keystone versioning and tarballs

2011-10-24 Thread Mark McLoughlin
Hi Dolph, On Mon, 2011-10-24 at 14:35 +, Dolph Mathews wrote: We definitely need to publish a tarball for diablo. Cool. Will the version be 1.0 or 2011.3, though? :) I recently refactored/centralized our versioning (we were reporting different versions in different places in the

Re: [Openstack] API Versioning and Extensibility

2011-10-25 Thread Mark McLoughlin
Hi Mark, On Tue, 2011-10-25 at 15:20 +1100, Mark Nottingham wrote: [snip] What do people think of the linked approach to versioning and extensibility? I like it. With the exception of the media types, it's very similar to the approach we took with the RHEV API[1] and it works really well. We

Re: [Openstack] Libguestfs??

2011-11-03 Thread Mark McLoughlin
Hi, On Tue, 2011-11-01 at 20:18 -0700, Joshua Harlow wrote: Hi all, I was wondering if there was a reason that openstack is not using libguestfs more frequently than not. Was there a technical reason for that, or a lack of packages in distributions (or other reasons?). Just wondering

[Openstack] Bug fixes and test cases submitted against stable/diablo

2011-11-08 Thread Mark McLoughlin
Hi Nati (Restarting our offline discussion here ...) I see you've proposed a stack of changes to Nova. Nice work! Kudos! https://review.openstack.org/#q,status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:stable/diablo+owner:nati,n,z However, they shouldn't be submitted against the stable/diablo

Re: [Openstack] Stable branch reviews

2011-11-10 Thread Mark McLoughlin
Hey, On Wed, 2011-11-09 at 16:50 +0100, Thierry Carrez wrote: Hi everyone, Since there seems to be some confusion around master vs. stable/diablo vs. core reviewers, I think it warrants a small thread. When at the Design Summit we discussed setting up stable branches, I warned about the

Re: [Openstack] Stable branch reviews

2011-11-10 Thread Mark McLoughlin
On Thu, 2011-11-10 at 09:02 -0800, Vishvananda Ishaya wrote: On Nov 10, 2011, at 6:22 AM, Mark McLoughlin wrote: But wait! Vish +2ed a stable branch patch yesterday: https://review.openstack.org/328 I don't mind losing my powers over stable/diablo. On a related note

Re: [Openstack] Stable branch reviews

2011-11-10 Thread Mark McLoughlin
On Thu, 2011-11-10 at 08:02 -0800, James E. Blair wrote: Mark McLoughlin mar...@redhat.com writes: Only folks that understand the stable branch policy[1] should be allowed to +2 on the stable branch. Basically, a stable branch reviewer should only +2 if: - It fixes a significant

Re: [Openstack] Stable branch reviews

2011-11-10 Thread Mark McLoughlin
Hi Dave, On Thu, 2011-11-10 at 17:33 +, Dave Walker wrote: On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 08:02:23AM -0800, James E. Blair wrote: SNIP But wait! Vish +2ed a stable branch patch yesterday: https://review.openstack.org/328 James, help a poor confused soul out here, would you? :)

Re: [Openstack] Stable branch reviews

2011-11-11 Thread Mark McLoughlin
On Fri, 2011-11-11 at 12:11 +0400, Yuriy Taraday wrote: I wonder if we should keep Change ID consistent in stable and master branches so that if one merged something into master, reviewers and archaeologists can easily find both related changes in master and all backports of specific change.

Re: [Openstack] Keystone's stable/diablo branch

2011-11-13 Thread Mark McLoughlin
Hi Dolph, On Fri, 2011-11-11 at 13:58 -0600, Dolph Mathews wrote: Keystone needs your help testing! The goal of this branch is to be completely compatible with diablo, while including as many improvements as possible. Pending your satisfaction, we'd like to tag this branch in the coming

Re: [Openstack] Stable branch reviews

2011-11-13 Thread Mark McLoughlin
On Fri, 2011-11-11 at 08:57 -0800, James E. Blair wrote: Mark McLoughlin mar...@redhat.com writes: On Fri, 2011-11-11 at 12:11 +0400, Yuriy Taraday wrote: I wonder if we should keep Change ID consistent in stable and master branches so that if one merged something into master, reviewers

Re: [Openstack] Keystone's stable/diablo branch

2011-11-14 Thread Mark McLoughlin
On Mon, 2011-11-14 at 10:22 +0100, Thierry Carrez wrote: Mark McLoughlin wrote: We still have a problem with versioning, though. - Essex keystone will be 2012.1 - Diablo keystone was tagged as 2011.3 - Diablo keystone was actually versioned as 1.0 (see setup.py) even

Re: [Openstack] [libvirt] Libvirt block live migration with OpenStack Diablo

2011-11-17 Thread Mark McLoughlin
(Removing libvirt-list from cc) On Thu, 2011-11-17 at 14:39 +0100, Doude wrote: Hi Kei, I use the Diablo release of openStack and I didn't change anything in the libvirt XML template. I can saw a difference for the console file. The trunk version of Nova use a file for the logging console

Re: [Openstack] Stable branch reviews

2011-11-17 Thread Mark McLoughlin
Hi James, On Fri, 2011-11-11 at 07:03 +, Mark McLoughlin wrote: On Thu, 2011-11-10 at 08:02 -0800, James E. Blair wrote: Mark McLoughlin mar...@redhat.com writes: Only folks that understand the stable branch policy[1] should be allowed to +2 on the stable branch. Basically

Re: [Openstack] Stable branch reviews

2011-11-17 Thread Mark McLoughlin
Hi Yuriy, On Fri, 2011-11-18 at 11:38 +0400, Yuriy Taraday wrote: Since we're clear about how changes should be included in stable branches, are there any expectations on how often packages (e.g. Ubuntu ones) should be updated? I've pushed out a Fedora 16 update with the latest stable branch

[Openstack] Stable branch for glance

2011-11-18 Thread Mark McLoughlin
Hey, Just a heads up - I've started proposing backports to glance's stable branch. See here: https://review.openstack.org/#q,branch:stable/diablo+project:openstack/glance+owner:markmc+status:open,n,z Cheers, Mark. ___ Mailing list:

Re: [Openstack] [RFC] Common config options module

2011-11-28 Thread Mark McLoughlin
Hi Monty, On Mon, 2011-11-28 at 08:06 -0800, Monty Taylor wrote: Hey Mark! On 11/28/2011 07:09 AM, Mark McLoughlin wrote: Hey, I've just posted this blueprint: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/openstack-common/+spec/common-config http://wiki.openstack.org/CommonConfigModule

Re: [Openstack] [RFC] Common config options module

2011-11-28 Thread Mark McLoughlin
Hi Jason, On Mon, 2011-11-28 at 10:24 -0600, Jason Kölker wrote: On Mon, 2011-11-28 at 08:06 -0800, Monty Taylor wrote: The idea is to unify option handling across projects with this new API. The module would eventually (soon?) live in openstack-common. Awesome. So - whaddya think

Re: [Openstack] Database stuff

2011-11-29 Thread Mark McLoughlin
On Tue, 2011-11-29 at 16:20 +0100, Soren Hansen wrote: It seems I've talked myself into preferring option e). It's too much work to do on my own, though, and it's going to be disruptive, so we need to do it real soon. I think it'll be worth it, though. (e) sounds right to me. But hopefully

Re: [Openstack] Providing packages for stable releases of OpenStack

2011-11-30 Thread Mark McLoughlin
On Wed, 2011-11-30 at 10:32 +0100, Thierry Carrez wrote: TL;DR summary: The resources needed to do that properly are bigger than you think (and doing that will alienate some distro packaging resources), so we'll either do a terrible job at it, or lose focus on the development release. If

Re: [Openstack] Providing packages for stable releases of OpenStack

2011-11-30 Thread Mark McLoughlin
On Wed, 2011-11-30 at 13:07 +0100, Soren Hansen wrote: I think there are two distinct use cases here. Totally agree. We need to make it as easy as possible for people to test upstream git branches and releases. To me, the PPA's have always been a QA tool. I wanted people willing to help test

Re: [Openstack] Proposal for Mark McLoughlin to join nova-core

2011-12-05 Thread Mark McLoughlin
On Mon, 2011-12-05 at 09:32 +0100, Soren Hansen wrote: 2011/11/29 Vishvananda Ishaya vishvana...@gmail.com: Mark is maintaining openstack for Fedora and has made some excellent contributions to nova. He has also been very prolific with reviews lately. Lets add him to core and make his

Re: [Openstack] [RFC] Common config options module

2011-12-06 Thread Mark McLoughlin
On Mon, 2011-12-05 at 15:36 -0800, Vishvananda Ishaya wrote: Just read through the description and the code. I don't have any issues with the way it is implemented, although others may have some suggestions/tweaks. I think it is most important to get the common code established, so I'm up

Re: [Openstack] [RFC] Common config options module

2011-12-06 Thread Mark McLoughlin
On Mon, 2011-12-05 at 15:32 -0800, Andy Smith wrote: Took a look over the wiki for this. The approach is very similar to one I've used recently so I wanted to bring up something that looks like it may have been overlooked. In testing it is frequent practice that you want to ensure global

Re: [Openstack] Providing packages for stable releases of OpenStack

2011-12-07 Thread Mark McLoughlin
On Tue, 2011-12-06 at 14:12 -0800, Duncan McGreggor wrote: On 06 Dec 2011 - 13:52, Duncan McGreggor wrote: On 06 Dec 2011 - 21:14, Thierry Carrez wrote: Tim Bell wrote: I'm not clear on who will be maintaining the stable/diablo branch. The people such as EPEL for RedHat systems need

Re: [Openstack] Providing packages for stable releases of OpenStack

2011-12-07 Thread Mark McLoughlin
On Tue, 2011-12-06 at 10:11 -0800, Duncan McGreggor wrote: On 06 Dec 2011 - 14:28, Thierry Carrez wrote: So the general consensus so far on this discussion seems to be: (0) The 2011.3 release PPA bears false expectations and should be removed now. In the future, we should not provide such

Re: [Openstack] Nova Subteam Changes

2011-12-07 Thread Mark McLoughlin
On Tue, 2011-12-06 at 19:54 -0800, Vishvananda Ishaya wrote: Hello Everyone, The Nova subteams have now been active for a month and a half. Some things are going very well, and others could use a little improvement. To keep things moving forward, I'd like to make the following changes:

Re: [Openstack] Gating on deployment and integration tests for stable/diablo

2011-12-09 Thread Mark McLoughlin
On Thu, 2011-12-08 at 14:12 -0800, James E. Blair wrote: There are still a number of issues involved in turning this on for trunk, not only related to stability and determinism, but also to coordinating simultaneous changes to multiple projects. However, I think this is reasonably stable and

Re: [Openstack] trusted computing and nova

2011-12-11 Thread Mark McLoughlin
On Thu, 2011-12-08 at 17:27 -0500, Mark Washenberger wrote: Does code specific to Trusted Computing belong in Nova? It seems like it should be supported through Scheduler plugins and API plugins (if necessary). Just a general thought on this - it's all very well deciding to not support a

Re: [Openstack] openstack-poc [was Re: A possible alternative to Gerrit ...]

2011-12-11 Thread Mark McLoughlin
On Mon, 2011-10-17 at 11:26 +0100, Mark McLoughlin wrote: On Sat, 2011-10-15 at 09:27 -0400, Jay Pipes wrote: On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 4:27 AM, Mark McLoughlin mar...@redhat.com wrote: Hey, On Wed, 2011-09-07 at 19:47 +, Chris Behrens wrote: On Sep 7, 2011, at 11:46 AM, Jay Pipes

Re: [Openstack] Compute API Versioning

2011-12-21 Thread Mark McLoughlin
Hi Brian, On Tue, 2011-12-20 at 10:35 -0500, Brian Waldon wrote: So there obviously isn't one clear way to version a RESTful API. Not every API is created equal, and therefore doesn't need the same capabilities in its versioning mechanism. At this point, it is important to determine what

Re: [Openstack] Problems with run_tests.sh on 11.10

2012-01-03 Thread Mark McLoughlin
On Mon, 2012-01-02 at 12:50 +0100, Soren Hansen wrote: 2011/12/30 John Griffith john.griff...@solidfire.com: Oops, sorry about that. Forgot to check it in the venv, which reveals the issue: % tools/with_venv.sh jdg@grumpy ~/Projects/OpenStack/nova % python Python 2.7.2+ (default,

Re: [Openstack] Integration test gating on trunk

2012-01-03 Thread Mark McLoughlin
Hi James, On Thu, 2011-12-29 at 14:51 -0800, James E. Blair wrote: Having said that, the Jenkins job has been running in silent mode on master for several days with few false errors. My feeling from the design summit was that it was generally understood there would be a shakedown period, and

Re: [Openstack] Using Gerrit to verify the CLA

2012-01-03 Thread Mark McLoughlin
On Fri, 2011-12-30 at 09:41 -0800, James E. Blair wrote: In short, the process for new developers will be: 1) Sign CLA via Echosign 2) Record signature in wiki 3) Apply for membership in openstack-cla 4) Contribute! With only step 3 being added by this change. I'd like to enable this

[Openstack] openstack-common

2012-01-03 Thread Mark McLoughlin
Hey, As Jason says - another year, another openstack-common thread! :-) I've just written up the plan Jason and I have for openstack-common: http://wiki.openstack.org/CommonLibrary (also pasted below to make it easier to reply to) I guess what we're trying to do is quickly get this thing

Re: [Openstack] openstack-common

2012-01-03 Thread Mark McLoughlin
On Tue, 2012-01-03 at 19:54 +, Ewan Mellor wrote: I'd love to see openstack-common get off the ground, so I'm all in favor of this. One question: why do you feel that you need such strong backwards compatibility? If someone makes a change in openstack-common and makes simultaneous

Re: [Openstack] openstack-common

2012-01-03 Thread Mark McLoughlin
On Tue, 2012-01-03 at 13:04 -0800, Monty Taylor wrote: Operationally they'll need to be able to make the change in a way that it can be sequenced. We don't have a concept of simultaneous tied changes. So a the change you describe would need to look like: Land change to openstack-common to

Re: [Openstack] Do we really need a CLA? [was Re: Using Gerrit to verify the CLA]

2012-01-04 Thread Mark McLoughlin
the document, openstack is potentially left open to a lawsuit, if an employee unspecified in the CLA, contributes something they consider IP. I seriously hate all this legal stuff. I'll leave that one for Richard too :-) Cheers, Mark. Cheers, Rick On 01/03/2012 06:22 AM, Mark McLoughlin

Re: [Openstack] [OpenStack Foundation] OpenStack Foundation

2012-01-05 Thread Mark McLoughlin
Hi Mark, On Thu, 2012-01-05 at 15:16 -0500, m...@openstack.org wrote: As Jim mentioned, I'm going to focus on establishing the foundation this year and am really excited to be able to dedicate the time and attention it deserves, alongside Jonathan, Stef, and many others. I've found myself

Re: [Openstack] [OpenStack Foundation] OpenStack Foundation

2012-01-06 Thread Mark McLoughlin
Hi Todd, On Thu, 2012-01-05 at 18:29 -0500, Todd Willey wrote: On Thu, Jan 5, 2012 at 5:19 PM, Mark McLoughlin mar...@redhat.com wrote: The previous thread here that I contributed to felt a little like Thierry and I chatting alone in a giant cavern. That concerns me for two reasons

Re: [Openstack] [OpenStack Foundation] OpenStack Foundation

2012-01-06 Thread Mark McLoughlin
Hi Soren, On Fri, 2012-01-06 at 10:44 +0100, Soren Hansen wrote: 2012/1/5 Jim Curry jim.cu...@rackspace.com: We are basing this initial proposal on a lot of input received from the community and beyond — developers, users, companies, other open source projects and foundations, lawyers,

Re: [Openstack] Do we really need a CLA? [was Re: Using Gerrit to verify the CLA]

2012-01-06 Thread Mark McLoughlin
Hi Richard, On Thu, 2012-01-05 at 14:11 -0500, Richard Fontana wrote: On Wed, Jan 04, 2012 at 09:49:29PM +, Mark McLoughlin wrote: Hi Rick, On Tue, 2012-01-03 at 09:02 -0600, Rick Clark wrote: Hey Mark, First of all, orthogonally, we are very lucky to not have Copyright

Re: [Openstack] Using Gerrit to verify the CLA

2012-01-09 Thread Mark McLoughlin
Hey, On Thu, 2012-01-05 at 10:02 -0800, James E. Blair wrote: This change is in place; membership in openstack-cla is required in order to submit changes to Gerrit. All of the -core groups have been made administrators of that group. If core members could watch for new membership requests,

Re: [Openstack] Using Gerrit to verify the CLA

2012-01-09 Thread Mark McLoughlin
On Jan 9, 2012, at 8:08 AM, Mark McLoughlin wrote: Hey, On Thu, 2012-01-05 at 10:02 -0800, James E. Blair wrote: This change is in place; membership in openstack-cla is required in order to submit changes to Gerrit. All of the -core groups have been made administrators of that group

Re: [Openstack] Proposal for new devstack (v2?)

2012-01-18 Thread Mark McLoughlin
On Tue, 2012-01-17 at 11:20 -0800, Joshua Harlow wrote: My goals were/are/(may continue to be, haha) the following: ... 3. Have the ability to have pkg/pip installation (and definition separate from the main code, already starting to be done), in more than 1 distro. * This allows

[Openstack] [ANNOUNCE] OpenStack Nova and Glance 2011.3.1 released

2012-01-20 Thread Mark McLoughlin
Hey, In the months since the Diablo release, we have been busy selectively back-porting bugfixes to the stable/diablo branches of Nova and Glance. Well, those fixes are now available as 2011.3.1 releases! These releases are bugfix updates to Diablo and are intended to be relatively risk free

Re: [Openstack] openstack-common

2012-01-26 Thread Mark McLoughlin
Hey, On Tue, 2012-01-03 at 16:57 +, Mark McLoughlin wrote: The openstack-common project intends to produce a python library containing infrastructure code shared by OpenStack projects. The APIs provided by the project should be high quality, stable, consistent and generally useful. Jason

[Openstack] Wishlist bugs

2012-02-02 Thread Mark McLoughlin
Hey, Wishlist (I want a pony) bugs that have sat in launchpad for an extended period with no progress contribute to the general noise in launchpad - for developers trying to fix stuff that matter to people, they're not a very good source of information. So, how about we do this:

Re: [Openstack] Propose to make Monsyne Dragon a nova core developer

2012-02-07 Thread Mark McLoughlin
On Mon, 2012-02-06 at 22:48 +, Matt Dietz wrote: Hey guys, Dragon has really stepped up lately on reviewing patches into Nova, and has a ton of knowledge around Nova proper, so I propose he be added to Nova core. I think he'd be a great addition to the team. Seeing some very nice,

Re: [Openstack] mailing list etiquette

2012-02-07 Thread Mark McLoughlin
On Tue, 2012-02-07 at 13:08 -0500, andi abes wrote: I've seen a few folks apologizing for top-posts and a few pokes in some threads about folks with less than intelligent email clients. Which leads me to ask: are there any pointers to best practices on the mailing list? (replying to the right

Re: [Openstack] mailing list etiquette

2012-02-08 Thread Mark McLoughlin
On Wed, 2012-02-08 at 09:58 -0500, andi abes wrote: On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 7:59 AM, Chmouel Boudjnah chmo...@openstack.orgwrote: Mark McLoughlin mar...@redhat.com writes: I wrote this some time ago: https://fedorahosted.org/rhevm-api/wiki/Email_Guidelines If it's helpful, I'm

Re: [Openstack] DevStack and Fedora

2012-02-22 Thread Mark McLoughlin
On Wed, 2012-02-22 at 11:04 -0600, Dean Troyer wrote: I have proposed a DevStack branch that supports Fedora 16 at https://review.openstack.org/4364. Not everything is working yet, as outlined below. I am proposing now anyway to get feedback on the direction and some of the decisions I made

Re: [Openstack] [OpenStack Foundation] Foundation Structure: An Alternative

2012-03-11 Thread Mark McLoughlin
On Fri, 2012-03-09 at 14:50 -0800, Boris Renski Jr. wrote: In my view the price tag for the sponsorship and the ultimate means for raising the money is not what drives OpenStack’s vendor independence principles. What matters the most is the degree of decoupling between the front-end,

Re: [Openstack] Gerrit minimum review time frame

2012-03-13 Thread Mark McLoughlin
On Mon, 2012-03-12 at 17:57 -0500, Josh Kearney wrote: Is this is really a problem that needs solving? I'd like to believe that no member of Nova Core would approve something that they aren't familiar with. I think the issue is more a case of allowing some time for other reviewers to come along

Re: [Openstack] Being pedantic about pedanticism: HACKING styleguide

2012-03-23 Thread Mark McLoughlin
On Fri, 2012-03-23 at 11:18 -0500, Andrew Bogott wrote: 1) I can back out my new style-guide from openstack-common openstack-common still needs a HACKING file for itself :) Cheers, Mark. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack Post to

Re: [Openstack] Being pedantic about pedanticism: HACKING styleguide

2012-03-23 Thread Mark McLoughlin
On Thu, 2012-03-22 at 22:00 -0700, Andy Smith wrote: It is something pulled from the google style guide. You know what else is in the Google style guide? Avoid global variables :-) http://google-styleguide.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/pyguide.html?showone=Global_variables#Global_variables Mark.

Re: [Openstack] Moving nova.rpc into openstack.common

2012-04-03 Thread Mark McLoughlin
Hey Russell, On Mon, 2012-04-02 at 16:26 -0400, Russell Bryant wrote: Greetings, There was a thread on this list a little while ago about moving the notification drivers that are in nova and glance into openstack.common since they provide very similar functionality, but have implementations

[Openstack] Who wrote Essex?

2012-04-06 Thread Mark McLoughlin
%) Johannes Erdfelt 146 (4.2%) Vishvananda Ishaya 116 (3.3%) Dolph Mathews 98 (2.8%) Dan Prince 84 (2.4%) Ziad Sawalha80 (2.3%) Jason Kölker 77 (2.2%) Mark McLoughlin 73 (2.1%) Jake Dahn

Re: [Openstack] Stable Branch, alt title: What happens to Diablo

2012-04-10 Thread Mark McLoughlin
Hi, On Fri, 2012-04-06 at 09:13 -0700, Lloyd Dewolf wrote: I've updated http://wiki.openstack.org/StableBranch to put Diablo in the past, and Essex as the current stable release. I'm delighted to see that Mark McLoughlin already has Stable Branch on the agenda for the Summit, http

Re: [Openstack] New Gerrit version (and server)

2012-04-13 Thread Mark McLoughlin
Hey, On Thu, 2012-04-12 at 16:23 -0700, James E. Blair wrote: One new addition in 2.3 is draft changes. The idea behind a draft change in Gerrit is that it is a change that is not ready for merging, or even general code review, but you would like to share it with some people to get early

Re: [Openstack] wsgi code duplication

2012-04-24 Thread Mark McLoughlin
Hi Ghe, On Tue, 2012-04-24 at 12:15 +0200, Ghe Rivero wrote: Hi Everyone, i've been looking through wsgi code, and i have found a lot of duplicated code between all the projects. Thanks for looking into this. It sounds quite daunting. I wonder could we do this iteratively by extract the

Re: [Openstack] Canonical AWSOME

2012-04-24 Thread Mark McLoughlin
On Tue, 2012-04-24 at 13:26 +0200, Soren Hansen wrote: 23. apr. 2012 17.15 skrev Justin Santa Barbara jus...@fathomdb.com: With one native API, we can focus all our energies on making sure that API works. Then, knowing that the native API works, we can build other APIs on top through

Re: [Openstack] proposal for Russell Bryant to be added to Nova Core

2012-04-29 Thread Mark McLoughlin
Definite +1 Mark. On Fri, 2012-04-27 at 11:09 -0400, Dan Prince wrote: Russell Bryant wrote the Nova Qpid rpc implementation and is a member of the Nova security team. He has been helping chipping away at reviews and contributing to discussions for some time now. I'd like to seem him

Re: [Openstack] [Metering] schema and counter definitions

2012-05-01 Thread Mark McLoughlin
Hi Loic, On Mon, 2012-04-30 at 12:15 +0200, Loic Dachary wrote: To prepare for the next meeting ( thursday 3rd, may 2012 http://wiki.openstack.org/Meetings/MeteringAgenda ) I cleaned up and reorganized the Metering blueprint so that it ( hopefully ) incorporates all the information

Re: [Openstack] [Metering] schema and counter definitions

2012-05-01 Thread Mark McLoughlin
Hey, On Tue, 2012-05-01 at 23:05 +0200, Loic Dachary wrote: On 05/01/2012 06:13 PM, Mark McLoughlin wrote: Hi Loic, On Mon, 2012-04-30 at 12:15 +0200, Loic Dachary wrote: - I agree that we don't want to go too far with aggregation and lose useful data like which instances have

Re: [Openstack] [Metering] schema and counter definitions

2012-05-01 Thread Mark McLoughlin
On Tue, 2012-05-01 at 23:05 +0200, Loic Dachary wrote: On 05/01/2012 06:13 PM, Mark McLoughlin wrote: Hi Loic, On Mon, 2012-04-30 at 12:15 +0200, Loic Dachary wrote: To prepare for the next meeting ( thursday 3rd, may 2012 http://wiki.openstack.org/Meetings/MeteringAgenda ) I cleaned

Re: [Openstack] [Metering] schema and counter definitions

2012-05-02 Thread Mark McLoughlin
On Wed, 2012-05-02 at 10:08 +0200, Loic Dachary wrote: My impression is that the notifications system is intended to cover all billable usage in at least Nova and Glance. It's also my understanding. Regarding swift, how would you suggest we approach the problem ? I see two possible courses:

Re: [Openstack] Backporting test fixes

2012-05-03 Thread Mark McLoughlin
Hi, On Wed, 2012-05-02 at 14:37 +0200, Ionuț Arțăriși wrote: I recently submitted a few fixes to the test suite in various components of openstack. Thanks for that! These fixes are being merged in master, but the code remains broken in the stable/essex branch. Review requests for

Re: [Openstack] Backporting test fixes

2012-05-03 Thread Mark McLoughlin
On Thu, 2012-05-03 at 10:51 +0200, Ionuț Arțăriși wrote: Hi Mark, thanks for your answer. On 05/03/2012 10:25 AM, Mark McLoughlin wrote: Hi, On Wed, 2012-05-02 at 14:37 +0200, Ionuț Arțăriși wrote: I recently submitted a few fixes to the test suite in various components of openstack

[Openstack] Nova subsystem branches and feature branches

2012-05-03 Thread Mark McLoughlin
Hey, We discussed this during the baking area for features design summit session. I found that discussion fairly frustrating because there were so many of us involved and we all were either wanting to discuss slightly different things or had a slightly different understanding of what we were

Re: [Openstack] Nova subsystem branches and feature branches

2012-05-03 Thread Mark McLoughlin
Hey, On Thu, 2012-05-03 at 14:24 +0200, Thierry Carrez wrote: Mark McLoughlin wrote: Ok, what are subsystem branches and how would they work? [...] - It would be up to the project dictators to help drive patches through the right subsystem branches - e.g. they might object

Re: [Openstack] Nova subsystem branches and feature branches

2012-05-03 Thread Mark McLoughlin
On Thu, 2012-05-03 at 16:46 +0100, Mark McLoughlin wrote: Hey, On Thu, 2012-05-03 at 14:24 +0200, Thierry Carrez wrote: Mark McLoughlin wrote: And how about feature branches? - Feature branches are relatively short-lived (i.e. weeks or months rather than years) branches

Re: [Openstack] Nova subsystem branches and feature branches

2012-05-08 Thread Mark McLoughlin
://review.openstack.org/#/c/6774/ https://review.openstack.org/#/c/7048/ Cheers, Mark. Vish On May 3, 2012, at 4:08 AM, Mark McLoughlin wrote: Hey, We discussed this during the baking area for features design summit session. I found that discussion fairly frustrating because there were

Re: [Openstack] [orchestration] feature branch of a work in progress on orchestration

2012-05-08 Thread Mark McLoughlin
Hi, On Mon, 2012-05-07 at 21:41 -0400, Yun Mao wrote: Hi, I've uploaded some code as work in progress towards what we discussed at the Folsom summit, nova orchestration session. Where I'm going is more or less described in this blueprint.

Re: [Openstack] 3rd Party APIs

2012-05-08 Thread Mark McLoughlin
Hey, I just realised there's a thread on the openstack-poc list about how OpenStack should view implementations of APIs other than the OpenStack API: https://lists.launchpad.net/openstack-poc/msg00448.html (PPB members - please note that other folks can't subscribe to the POC list. If you

Re: [Openstack] Nova Core Cleanup

2012-05-09 Thread Mark McLoughlin
On Wed, 2012-05-09 at 11:34 +0100, Mark McLoughlin wrote: I rarely -2, because I see it as a strong veto which blocks the patch or later revisions of the patch until I remove the -2. Maybe it's just the fact that I know I'm likely to be slow to come back and review later revisions of a patch

Re: [Openstack] Nova Core Cleanup

2012-05-09 Thread Mark McLoughlin
On Wed, 2012-05-09 at 19:58 +, Matt Dietz wrote: The problem here is there are two opposing points: the idea that there are too many core reviewers, and the idea that patches aren't being reviewed fast enough. *Drags a yak into the room* Beyond that, what makes 20 better than 25, or

Re: [Openstack] Nova subsystem branches and feature branches

2012-05-11 Thread Mark McLoughlin
Hey, cdub sent on these interesting links: http://lwn.net/Articles/328438/ https://lkml.org/lkml/2012/3/22/489 tl;dr on those is that you're likely to be flamed as a f*cking moron by Linus unless you manage to understand every little nuance about how he thinks git should be used :-) It's

Re: [Openstack] Nova subsystem branches and feature branches

2012-05-11 Thread Mark McLoughlin
On Fri, 2012-05-04 at 17:11 -0700, Chris Wright wrote: * Mark McLoughlin (mar...@redhat.com) wrote: - Subsystem branches would not rebase unless the project dictator outright rejects a merge request from the subsystem branch (i.e. I'm not merging commit abcdef0! Fix

Re: [Openstack] Nova subsystem branches and feature branches

2012-05-11 Thread Mark McLoughlin
Hi James, On Tue, 2012-05-08 at 14:03 -0700, James E. Blair wrote: Mark McLoughlin mar...@redhat.com writes: Hey, We discussed this during the baking area for features design summit session. I found that discussion fairly frustrating because there were so many of us involved and we

Re: [Openstack] Nova subsystem branches and feature branches

2012-05-11 Thread Mark McLoughlin
Hey, So, one thing came really stuck out to me when comparing our process to the kernel process: In the kernel process, maintainers are responsible for running 'git-merge' and they see it as their job to resolve conflicts. In our process, Jenkins runs 'git-merge' and runs away screaming

Re: [Openstack] Nova subsystem branches and feature branches

2012-05-18 Thread Mark McLoughlin
Hey, Hi On Mon, 2012-05-14 at 14:51 +0200, Thierry Carrez wrote: James E. Blair wrote: Vish, Thierry, and I spent some time together this week at UDS trying to reconcile their needs and your suggestions. I believe Thierry is going to write that up and send it to the list soon. While at

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