Re: [Openstack] [OpenStack Foundation] Individual Member Elections

2012-07-30 Thread Lloyd Dewolf
On Sat, Jul 28, 2012 at 11:18 PM, Jonathan Bryce jonat...@openstack.org wrote:

 We've learned that someone may have violated the basic principles that hold 
 this community together by trying to affect the nominations for the 
 Individual Member elections.

For clarity, my understanding as it played out publicly, of the
accusation is someone was inappropriately discouraging another person
from running for nomination to the board.

Best regards,
--
@lloyddewolf
http://www.pistoncloud.com/

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Re: [Openstack] [OpenStack Foundation] Individual Member Elections

2012-07-29 Thread Mark McLoughlin
Hi Atul,

On Sun, 2012-07-29 at 07:21 +, Atul Jha wrote:

 We've learned that someone may have violated the basic principles that
 hold this community together by trying to affect the nominations for
 the Individual Member elections. This is not what our community stands
 for, and we do not want to let the actions of one or a few tarnish the
 reputation of the thousands of individuals who are working to make
 OpenStack a great place to develop open source software. We are so
 determined to uphold our values that every member--individual or
 corporate--agrees to a code of conduct that prohibits abusive behavior
 and attempts to manipulate our elections.

Well said, we cannot allow the entire community to be tainted by the
behaviour of an individual.

 Our bylaws and election process have been defined and overseen by very
 experienced, independent legal counsel, Mark Radcliffe.

My understanding from:

  http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/openstack/foundation/14647

is that Mark was retained to provide additional independent legal
advice to the drafting committee.

  We are completely committed to ensuring this process is open, fair
 and legitimate in accordance with our bylaws and Delaware corporate
 law. To ensure that the process is open, fair and legitimate, we are
 looking for individuals who would like to volunteer to be inspectors
 through the duration of the election to certify the outcome along with
 our counsel. No more than two affiliated members (working for the same
 company) can be inspectors, and any candidates who wish to run for
 election are also ineligible to be inspectors. As stated in the
 bylaws, Each inspector, before entering upon the discharge of his
 duties, shall take and sign an oath to faithfully execute the duties
 of inspector with strict impartiality and according to the best of his
 ability. This will require a firm time commitment from any
 volunteers, as they will need to be available at a
   number of points through the process to fulfill their duties in a
 timely manner. If you are interested in being an inspector, let me
 know.
 
 Any complaints or concerns about the election process are taken
 extremely seriously. Each complaint will be reviewed by our
 independent counsel and addressed or brought before the full Board at
 its first meeting as appropriate. To facilitate reporting we have
 created an email address that is received only by the Foundation's
 independent counsel for review: electionmoni...@openstack.org
 
 We are also working on process improvements for nominations and
 elections--more details on that coming soon. In the meantime, please
 speak up or contact me or Mark Radcliffe directly if you have any
 concerns. We have all come a very long way in establishing the
 OpenStack Foundation--our Foundation--and are right on the threshold
 of having it up and running. Now is the time for us all to pull
 together and to make sure we continue to build the kind of inclusive,
 supportive community that has come so far in the last 2 years.

I don't mean to give offence, but I must admit the above strikes me as
rather bizarre.

The role inspector you refer to above seems to be about an individual
who may be appointed to make a written report of a meeting and any
voting that happens there, including by proxy.

You are laying out a mechanism for handling complaints about the
election process which involves Mark Radcliffe being the sole recipient
of those complaints. I know neither what your current role in the
Foundation is nor how Mark was appointed to this position.

Further, the mechanism above does not address the issue at hand - how
should the Foundation handle a complaint about a member of our
community[1]?

Personally, I assume good good faith and there's some reasonable
explanation for how this all came about, but we need to be careful here
- having people (apparently arbitrarily) assume roles in the Foundation
and establish new processes doesn't help matters IMHO.

...

Seeing the brouhaha on twitter last night, I had hoped the target of the
allegation would be named and we could sort this out in the open.
However, a name doesn't appear forthcoming and the text of the complaint
itself has been deleted.

Given the code of conduct that members are subject:

  http://wiki.openstack.org/Governance/Foundation/CommunityCodeOfConduct

and the bit about OpenStack members ... are ultimately accountable to
the OpenStack Board of Directors, I think the way forward is for the
complaint to be made formally to the board so that they can investigate
the matter and report on their actions to address it.

The bylaws name Jonathan Bryce, Mark Collier and Alice King as the
Initial Board. The complaint should be made to them.

If the complainant isn't satisfied with that and can't make the
complaint public, then we may need another process. That would need some
open discussion to figure out and IMHO may just be that the complaint is
taken to a meeting of the corporate 

Re: [Openstack] [OpenStack Foundation] Individual Member Elections

2012-07-29 Thread Mark McLoughlin
On Sun, 2012-07-29 at 11:43 +0100, Mark McLoughlin wrote:
 Hi Atul,
 
 On Sun, 2012-07-29 at 07:21 +, Atul Jha wrote:
   
  We are also working on process improvements for nominations and
  elections--more details on that coming soon. In the meantime, please
  speak up or contact me or Mark Radcliffe directly if you have any
  concerns. We have all come a very long way in establishing the
  OpenStack Foundation--our Foundation--and are right on the threshold
  of having it up and running. Now is the time for us all to pull
  together and to make sure we continue to build the kind of inclusive,
  supportive community that has come so far in the last 2 years.
 
[..]
 You are laying out a mechanism for handling complaints about the
 election process which involves Mark Radcliffe being the sole recipient
 of those complaints. I know neither what your current role in the
 Foundation is nor how Mark was appointed to this position.

Wow. See how important it is to properly quote emails? :-(

My apologies to all. I see now that Jonathan sent the original email.
That makes a whole lot more sense.

I hope this gets resolved quickly.

Regards,
Mark.


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Re: [Openstack] [OpenStack Foundation] Individual Member Elections

2012-07-29 Thread Rick Clark
Jonathon,
How is it possible for someone to taint the nomination process?  Are we
not allowed to promote our nominations? In light of the fact that the
process is closed and we can't know how many nominations we had
received, it seems fine to me to encourage nominations.  Have some
unwritten rules been broken, I am completely confused?  Saying someone
violated the basic principles that hold our community together is an
extreme statement. Our community does things in the open, by default.
Had we followed our basic principles in this nomination process, I
can't help but think we wouldn't be in this situation.


Rick



On 07/29/2012 01:18 AM, Jonathan Bryce wrote:
 The OpenStack Foundation has already attracted over 2,000 Individual Members 
 in a little over a week. It's a very exciting moment for all of us involved 
 in this effort, but also brings responsibility for each Individual and 
 Corporate member.
 
 We've learned that someone may have violated the basic principles that hold 
 this community together by trying to affect the nominations for the 
 Individual Member elections. This is not what our community stands for, and 
 we do not want to let the actions of one or a few tarnish the reputation of 
 the thousands of individuals who are working to make OpenStack a great place 
 to develop open source software. We are so determined to uphold our values 
 that every member--individual or corporate--agrees to a code of conduct that 
 prohibits abusive behavior and attempts to manipulate our elections.
 
 Our bylaws and election process have been defined and overseen by very 
 experienced, independent legal counsel, Mark Radcliffe. We are completely 
 committed to ensuring this process is open, fair and legitimate in accordance 
 with our bylaws and Delaware corporate law. To ensure that the process is 
 open, fair and legitimate, we are looking for individuals who would like to 
 volunteer to be inspectors through the duration of the election to certify 
 the outcome along with our counsel. No more than two affiliated members 
 (working for the same company) can be inspectors, and any candidates who wish 
 to run for election are also ineligible to be inspectors. As stated in the 
 bylaws, Each inspector, before entering upon the discharge of his duties, 
 shall take and sign an oath to faithfully execute the duties of inspector 
 with strict impartiality and according to the best of his ability. This will 
 require a firm time commitment from any volunteers, as they will need to be 
 available at a number
 of points through the process to fulfill their duties in a timely manner. If 
you are interested in being an inspector, let me know.
 
 Any complaints or concerns about the election process are taken extremely 
 seriously. Each complaint will be reviewed by our independent counsel and 
 addressed or brought before the full Board at its first meeting as 
 appropriate. To facilitate reporting we have created an email address that is 
 received only by the Foundation's independent counsel for review: 
 electionmoni...@openstack.org
 
 We are also working on process improvements for nominations and 
 elections--more details on that coming soon. In the meantime, please speak up 
 or contact me or Mark Radcliffe directly if you have any concerns. We have 
 all come a very long way in establishing the OpenStack Foundation--our 
 Foundation--and are right on the threshold of having it up and running. Now 
 is the time for us all to pull together and to make sure we continue to build 
 the kind of inclusive, supportive community that has come so far in the last 
 2 years.
 
 Thanks,
 
 Jonathan
 210-317-2438
 
 
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Re: [Openstack] [OpenStack Foundation] Individual Member Elections

2012-07-29 Thread Jonathan Bryce
On Jul 29, 2012, at 10:34 AM, Rick Clark wrote:
 Jonathon,
 How is it possible for someone to taint the nomination process?  Are we
 not allowed to promote our nominations? In light of the fact that the
 process is closed and we can't know how many nominations we had
 received, it seems fine to me to encourage nominations.  Have some
 unwritten rules been broken, I am completely confused?

Certainly no rules against promoting your nomination or candidacy (or someone 
else's for that matter). Campaign away! The situation in question is a 
completely different matter and involves a serious allegation of harassment 
that we are still trying to get details on.

 Saying someone
 violated the basic principles that hold our community together is an
 extreme statement. Our community does things in the open, by default.
 Had we followed our basic principles in this nomination process, I
 can't help but think we wouldn't be in this situation.

I agree that our tools and processes can get better and more transparent, and 
as I mentioned below, we are working on that. Hope to have an update later 
today or tomorrow on that to send out. I am not sure that it would have 
prevented this situation as it involves behavior outside of the mechanics of 
the nominations.

Jonathan


 
 
 Rick
 
 
 
 On 07/29/2012 01:18 AM, Jonathan Bryce wrote:
 The OpenStack Foundation has already attracted over 2,000 Individual Members 
 in a little over a week. It's a very exciting moment for all of us involved 
 in this effort, but also brings responsibility for each Individual and 
 Corporate member.
 
 We've learned that someone may have violated the basic principles that hold 
 this community together by trying to affect the nominations for the 
 Individual Member elections. This is not what our community stands for, and 
 we do not want to let the actions of one or a few tarnish the reputation of 
 the thousands of individuals who are working to make OpenStack a great place 
 to develop open source software. We are so determined to uphold our values 
 that every member--individual or corporate--agrees to a code of conduct that 
 prohibits abusive behavior and attempts to manipulate our elections.
 
 Our bylaws and election process have been defined and overseen by very 
 experienced, independent legal counsel, Mark Radcliffe. We are completely 
 committed to ensuring this process is open, fair and legitimate in 
 accordance with our bylaws and Delaware corporate law. To ensure that the 
 process is open, fair and legitimate, we are looking for individuals who 
 would like to volunteer to be inspectors through the duration of the 
 election to certify the outcome along with our counsel. No more than two 
 affiliated members (working for the same company) can be inspectors, and any 
 candidates who wish to run for election are also ineligible to be 
 inspectors. As stated in the bylaws, Each inspector, before entering upon 
 the discharge of his duties, shall take and sign an oath to faithfully 
 execute the duties of inspector with strict impartiality and according to 
 the best of his ability. This will require a firm time commitment from any 
 volunteers, as they will need to be available at a number
 of points through the process to fulfill their duties in a timely manner. If 
 you are interested in being an inspector, let me know.
 
 Any complaints or concerns about the election process are taken extremely 
 seriously. Each complaint will be reviewed by our independent counsel and 
 addressed or brought before the full Board at its first meeting as 
 appropriate. To facilitate reporting we have created an email address that 
 is received only by the Foundation's independent counsel for review: 
 electionmoni...@openstack.org
 
 We are also working on process improvements for nominations and 
 elections--more details on that coming soon. In the meantime, please speak 
 up or contact me or Mark Radcliffe directly if you have any concerns. We 
 have all come a very long way in establishing the OpenStack Foundation--our 
 Foundation--and are right on the threshold of having it up and running. Now 
 is the time for us all to pull together and to make sure we continue to 
 build the kind of inclusive, supportive community that has come so far in 
 the last 2 years.
 
 Thanks,
 
 Jonathan
 210-317-2438
 
 
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Re: [Openstack] [OpenStack Foundation] Individual Member Elections

2012-07-29 Thread Rick Clark
Thanks Jonathon,

Apparently, I missed a lot by spending yesterday taking my kids to the
movies and playing outside all day.  It seems everyone else was on
Twitter.

I'm glad you are taking care of this.


Cheers,

Rick

On 07/29/2012 11:21 AM, Jonathan Bryce wrote:
 On Jul 29, 2012, at 10:34 AM, Rick Clark wrote:
 Jonathon,
 How is it possible for someone to taint the nomination process?  Are we
 not allowed to promote our nominations? In light of the fact that the
 process is closed and we can't know how many nominations we had
 received, it seems fine to me to encourage nominations.  Have some
 unwritten rules been broken, I am completely confused?
 
 Certainly no rules against promoting your nomination or candidacy (or someone 
 else's for that matter). Campaign away! The situation in question is a 
 completely different matter and involves a serious allegation of harassment 
 that we are still trying to get details on.
 
 Saying someone
 violated the basic principles that hold our community together is an
 extreme statement. Our community does things in the open, by default.
 Had we followed our basic principles in this nomination process, I
 can't help but think we wouldn't be in this situation.
 
 I agree that our tools and processes can get better and more transparent, and 
 as I mentioned below, we are working on that. Hope to have an update later 
 today or tomorrow on that to send out. I am not sure that it would have 
 prevented this situation as it involves behavior outside of the mechanics of 
 the nominations.
 
 Jonathan
 
 


 Rick



 On 07/29/2012 01:18 AM, Jonathan Bryce wrote:
 The OpenStack Foundation has already attracted over 2,000 Individual 
 Members in a little over a week. It's a very exciting moment for all of us 
 involved in this effort, but also brings responsibility for each Individual 
 and Corporate member.

 We've learned that someone may have violated the basic principles that hold 
 this community together by trying to affect the nominations for the 
 Individual Member elections. This is not what our community stands for, and 
 we do not want to let the actions of one or a few tarnish the reputation of 
 the thousands of individuals who are working to make OpenStack a great 
 place to develop open source software. We are so determined to uphold our 
 values that every member--individual or corporate--agrees to a code of 
 conduct that prohibits abusive behavior and attempts to manipulate our 
 elections.

 Our bylaws and election process have been defined and overseen by very 
 experienced, independent legal counsel, Mark Radcliffe. We are completely 
 committed to ensuring this process is open, fair and legitimate in 
 accordance with our bylaws and Delaware corporate law. To ensure that the 
 process is open, fair and legitimate, we are looking for individuals who 
 would like to volunteer to be inspectors through the duration of the 
 election to certify the outcome along with our counsel. No more than two 
 affiliated members (working for the same company) can be inspectors, and 
 any candidates who wish to run for election are also ineligible to be 
 inspectors. As stated in the bylaws, Each inspector, before entering upon 
 the discharge of his duties, shall take and sign an oath to faithfully 
 execute the duties of inspector with strict impartiality and according to 
 the best of his ability. This will require a firm time commitment from any 
 volunteers, as they will need to be available at a numb
er
 of points through the process to fulfill their duties in a timely manner. If 
 you are interested in being an inspector, let me know.

 Any complaints or concerns about the election process are taken extremely 
 seriously. Each complaint will be reviewed by our independent counsel and 
 addressed or brought before the full Board at its first meeting as 
 appropriate. To facilitate reporting we have created an email address that 
 is received only by the Foundation's independent counsel for review: 
 electionmoni...@openstack.org

 We are also working on process improvements for nominations and 
 elections--more details on that coming soon. In the meantime, please speak 
 up or contact me or Mark Radcliffe directly if you have any concerns. We 
 have all come a very long way in establishing the OpenStack Foundation--our 
 Foundation--and are right on the threshold of having it up and running. Now 
 is the time for us all to pull together and to make sure we continue to 
 build the kind of inclusive, supportive community that has come so far in 
 the last 2 years.

 Thanks,

 Jonathan
 210-317-2438


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