Re: [Openstack] Nova Subteam Changes

2011-12-11 Thread Soren Hansen
2011/12/11 Stefano Maffulli stef...@openstack.org: Any time you find will be in someone's evening and in someone else's middle-of-the-night, and most of us probably also have busy calendars. What is not clear to me is if you would like to reduce the amount of meetings or just not add more.

Re: [Openstack] Nova Subteam Changes

2011-12-10 Thread Trey Morris
This problem has to have been solved before. Anyone know how multinational companies deal with meetings? Also, Soren, to be fair, I'm don't believe I've heard anyone propose a meeting that wasn't on ~utc-7 business time, yourself included. Maybe there should be some give and take here? Perhaps

Re: [Openstack] Nova Subteam Changes

2011-12-10 Thread Soren Hansen
2011/12/10 Trey Morris trey.mor...@rackspace.com: This problem has to have been solved before. Anyone know how multinational companies deal with meetings? The distro team meetings at Canonical used to rotate 8 hours every week to distribute the pain. Eventually, though, we gave up having these

Re: [Openstack] Nova Subteam Changes

2011-12-10 Thread Soren Hansen
On Dec 10, 2011 1:13 AM, Paul Voccio paul.voc...@rackspace.com wrote: I'm not sure why this frustration is directed at me. Because you're talking about calling a meeting as being no big deal, which might be true if everyone were in the same office, but when we're spread across the planet, it

Re: [Openstack] Nova Subteam Changes

2011-12-10 Thread Stefano Maffulli
On Sat, 2011-12-10 at 10:13 +0100, Soren Hansen wrote: Any time you find will be in someone's evening and in someone else's middle-of-the-night, and most of us probably also have busy calendars. We should try to limit the amount of meetings that require wide participation to the very strict

Re: [Openstack] Nova Subteam Changes

2011-12-09 Thread Soren Hansen
2011/12/8 Vishvananda Ishaya vishvana...@gmail.com: I'm hesitant to do more meetings as well, but we do need some coordination. I call false dichotomy on this. I don't buy the without meetings, we can't coordinate anything notion. I will leave the one for Monday on the board for now.  Lets

Re: [Openstack] Nova Subteam Changes

2011-12-09 Thread Soren Hansen
2011/12/9 Paul Voccio paul.voc...@rackspace.com: I think the benefits of an all hands irc/irl meeting is to reduce the overall amount of time needed to drive to a decision. I can usually do this in a 30 minute meeting if I have the relevant people and have a handful of items that need to be

Re: [Openstack] Nova Subteam Changes

2011-12-09 Thread Vishvananda Ishaya
Soren: Your concerns are perfectly reasonable. We will try to come up with a plan for communication that doesn't involve more meetings. I'm already in way too many meetings as it is. We will do Monday without you and take your concerns into account for our plans. Everyone Else: The simple

Re: [Openstack] Nova Subteam Changes

2011-12-09 Thread Thomas Goirand
- Original message - 2011/12/9 Paul Voccio paul.voc...@rackspace.com: We put *every* single meeting in this project in US business hours, *every* single meeting *outside* European and Japanese business hours If I may, also *every* time it's out of reach for an normal humain living in

Re: [Openstack] Nova Subteam Changes

2011-12-08 Thread Soren Hansen
2011/12/7 Vishvananda Ishaya vishvana...@gmail.com: 1) Weekly meeting for team leads. This is a time for us to discuss blueprint progress, multiple-team-related issues, etc. Going to shoot for Mondays at 2100 for this one.  I really need the subteam leads to commit to making this meeting. We

Re: [Openstack] Nova Subteam Changes

2011-12-08 Thread Sandy Walsh
: openstack@lists.launchpad.net (openstack@lists.launchpad.net) Subject: Re: [Openstack] Nova Subteam Changes 2011/12/7 Vishvananda Ishaya vishvana...@gmail.com: 1) Weekly meeting for team leads. This is a time for us to discuss blueprint progress, multiple-team-related issues, etc. Going to shoot

Re: [Openstack] Nova Subteam Changes

2011-12-08 Thread Thierry Carrez
Soren Hansen wrote: 2011/12/7 Vishvananda Ishaya vishvana...@gmail.com: 1) Weekly meeting for team leads. This is a time for us to discuss blueprint progress, multiple-team-related issues, etc. Going to shoot for Mondays at 2100 for this one. I really need the subteam leads to commit to

Re: [Openstack] Nova Subteam Changes

2011-12-08 Thread Soren Hansen
2011/12/8 Thierry Carrez thie...@openstack.org: Soren Hansen wrote: 2011/12/7 Vishvananda Ishaya vishvana...@gmail.com: 1) Weekly meeting for team leads. This is a time for us to discuss blueprint progress, multiple-team-related issues, etc. Going to shoot for Mondays at 2100 for this one.  I

Re: [Openstack] Nova Subteam Changes

2011-12-08 Thread Trey Morris
Weekly status emails sent to whom? I think it could be a good idea but my worry is that while the mailing list is efficient in terms of information per second, it's an inefficient place for coordinating. Solve this and I'm on board. On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 7:26 AM, Soren Hansen so...@linux2go.dk

Re: [Openstack] Nova Subteam Changes

2011-12-08 Thread Vishvananda Ishaya
I'm hesitant to do more meetings as well, but we do need some coordination. I will leave the one for Monday on the board for now. Lets have one meeting with the goal being to never need another one. I'm sure we can come up with an alternate way to communicate. IDEA: We could have a status

Re: [Openstack] Nova Subteam Changes

2011-12-07 Thread Mark McLoughlin
On Tue, 2011-12-06 at 19:54 -0800, Vishvananda Ishaya wrote: Hello Everyone, The Nova subteams have now been active for a month and a half. Some things are going very well, and others could use a little improvement. To keep things moving forward, I'd like to make the following changes:

Re: [Openstack] Nova Subteam Changes

2011-12-07 Thread Thierry Carrez
Vishvananda Ishaya wrote: 2) *Closing down the team mailinglists.* Some of the lists have been a bit active, but I think the approach that soren has been using of sending messages to the regular list with a team [header] is a better approach. Examples: [db] Should we use zookeeper?

Re: [Openstack] Nova Subteam Changes

2011-12-07 Thread Trey Morris
excellent ideas. I especially like the standardized list of headers. just to be sure, mondays at 2100utc? if so, no conflicts on my end On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 4:51 AM, Thierry Carrez thie...@openstack.orgwrote: Vishvananda Ishaya wrote: 2) *Closing down the team mailinglists.* Some of the