Re: [opensuse] [EMAIL PROTECTED], first problems :s

2007-10-11 Thread Ciro Iriarte
2007/10/11, Michael Letourneau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Ciro Iriarte wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Just installed [EMAIL PROTECTED] (changing from [EMAIL PROTECTED]), > > found some > > issues and would like to comment them to see if someone else did it > > too. > > > > * VMware Server > > Got this e

Re: [opensuse] [EMAIL PROTECTED], first problems :s

2007-10-11 Thread Michael Letourneau
Ciro Iriarte wrote: > Hi, > > Just installed [EMAIL PROTECTED] (changing from [EMAIL PROTECTED]), > found some > issues and would like to comment them to see if someone else did it > too. > > * VMware Server > Got this error trying to run the vmware-server-console: > > mainwks:~> vmware-serv

[opensuse] [EMAIL PROTECTED], first problems :s

2007-10-10 Thread Ciro Iriarte
Hi, Just installed [EMAIL PROTECTED] (changing from [EMAIL PROTECTED]), found some issues and would like to comment them to see if someone else did it too. * VMware Server Got this error trying to run the vmware-server-console: mainwks:~> vmware-server-console /usr/lib/vmware-server-con

[opensuse] [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: gpg inline signed sig incorrect]

2007-06-10 Thread Patrick Shanahan
this is what I got from the mutt-users list - Forwarded message from Breen Mullins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - > Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 07:19:44 -0700 > From: Breen Mullins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: gpg inline signed sig incorrect > > * Rocco Rutte <[EMAIL PRO

Re: [opensuse] [EMAIL PROTECTED]

2006-06-09 Thread Rajko M
Thomas Hertweck wrote: I re-arranged the order of the quotes: Rajko M wrote: [...] Users logic to select plain "opensuse" list is clear to me. If one looks for Fedora help subscribes to "fedora" not "redhat" mailing list. The problem is that we insist on naming openSUSE for community, and SUS

Re: [opensuse] [EMAIL PROTECTED]

2006-06-09 Thread Thomas Hertweck
I re-arranged the order of the quotes: Rajko M wrote: > [...] > Users logic to select plain "opensuse" list is clear to me. If one looks > for Fedora help subscribes to "fedora" not "redhat" mailing list. The > problem is that we insist on naming openSUSE for community, and SUSE > Linux for dis

Re: [opensuse] [EMAIL PROTECTED] => opensuse-help gets my vote

2006-06-08 Thread scsijon
At 11:07 AM 6/06/2006, you wrote: Martin Schlander wrote: > Henne's proposal is > good - but we should learn from our mistakes and enhance it a little bit. > > opensuse-users@ -> opensuse-help maybe this would be better if it was -> opensuse-helpusers so people know it's help for users and not

Re: [opensuse] [EMAIL PROTECTED]

2006-06-07 Thread Rajko M
Boyd Lynn Gerber wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Martin Schlander wrote: Tirsdag 06 juni 2006 02:26 skrev Rajko M: It was just list of words that will make lesser confusion, and in the mean time I backed up proposal by Martin Schlander, Move function of - to: opensuse-us

Re: [opensuse] [EMAIL PROTECTED]

2006-06-07 Thread Boyd Lynn Gerber
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 > Martin Schlander wrote: > > Tirsdag 06 juni 2006 02:26 skrev Rajko M: > > > It was just list of words that will make lesser confusion, and in the > > > mean time I backed up proposal by Martin Schlander, > > > > > > Move function of - to: > > > opens

Re: [opensuse] [EMAIL PROTECTED]

2006-06-06 Thread houghi
On Tue, Jun 06, 2006 at 10:43:05PM -0500, Rajko M wrote: > BTW, I have to see for some blog place where I can put my rant in :-) http://en.opensuse.org/User:Rajko_m HTH, HAND. ;-) houghi -- This openSUSE mailinglist is about the community. All discussion about the community is welcome.

Re: [opensuse] [EMAIL PROTECTED]

2006-06-06 Thread Rajko M
Martin Schlander wrote: Tirsdag 06 juni 2006 02:26 skrev Rajko M: It was just list of words that will make lesser confusion, and in the mean time I backed up proposal by Martin Schlander, Move function of - to: opensuse-users@ -> opensuse-help opensuse@ -> opensuse-project with addition to kee

Re: [opensuse] [EMAIL PROTECTED] => opensuse-help gets my vote

2006-06-06 Thread Martin Schlander
Tirsdag 06 juni 2006 20:50 skrev Thomas Hertweck: > .From my point of view, this is not such a good idea. For many mailing > lists the address -help@ is used to automatically send a short > help with instructions on how to use the mailing list Good point. perhaps instead: opensuse-techsupport@

Re: [opensuse] [EMAIL PROTECTED] => opensuse-help gets my vote

2006-06-06 Thread Thomas Hertweck
jdd wrote: > [...] > > the most evident word (internationally accepted) is "help". > So there should be an "opensuse-help" list. .From my point of view, this is not such a good idea. For many mailing lists the address -help@ is used to automatically send a short help with instructions on how t

Re: [opensuse] [EMAIL PROTECTED] => opensuse-help gets my vote

2006-06-06 Thread jdd
Henne Vogelsang wrote: If we exchange names in there (foo-help instead of foo-users or foo-project as default instead of foo) does not matter too much. From the technical side this is a no-brainer. I just need an overall layout i can follow. the most evident word (internationally accepted) is

Re: [opensuse] [EMAIL PROTECTED] => opensuse-help gets my vote

2006-06-06 Thread Henne Vogelsang
Hi, On Tuesday, June 06, 2006 at 03:07:51, Kenneth Aar, Grafikern.no wrote: > Martin Schlander wrote: > > Henne's proposal is > > good - but we should learn from our mistakes and enhance it a little bit. > > > > opensuse-users@ -> opensuse-help > > > > opensuse@ -> opensuse-project > > > > Who's

Re: [opensuse] [EMAIL PROTECTED]

2006-06-06 Thread jdd
Martin Schlander wrote: Tirsdag 06 juni 2006 02:26 skrev Rajko M: It was just list of words that will make lesser confusion, and in the mean time I backed up proposal by Martin Schlander, Move function of - to: opensuse-users@ -> opensuse-help opensuse@ -> opensuse-project with addition to ke

Re: [opensuse] [EMAIL PROTECTED]

2006-06-06 Thread Randall R Schulz
On Tuesday 06 June 2006 00:01, Peter Flodin wrote: > On 6/6/06, Randall R Schulz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I certainly do. A community is _people_ not _projects_. You are > > _not_ discussing _the community_, you're discussing _the work_. No > > matter how many times you repeat it, you're not

Re: [opensuse] [EMAIL PROTECTED]

2006-06-06 Thread Randall R Schulz
On Monday 05 June 2006 22:28, houghi wrote: > ... > > You know what? You are right and I have my peace. So whatever. > Thank you. > houghi RRS - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMA

Re: [opensuse] [EMAIL PROTECTED]

2006-06-06 Thread Martin Schlander
Tirsdag 06 juni 2006 02:26 skrev Rajko M: > It was just list of words that will make lesser confusion, and in the > mean time I backed up proposal by Martin Schlander, > > Move function of - to: > opensuse-users@ -> opensuse-help > opensuse@ -> opensuse-project > > with addition to keep bare "opens

Re: [opensuse] [EMAIL PROTECTED]

2006-06-06 Thread Siegbert Baude
Martin Schlander schrieb: > opensuse-users@ -> opensuse-help > > opensuse@ -> opensuse-project > > Who's gonna misunderstand that? I second that. Except these two names, I also liked the layout of Henne's proposal with regard to the topic and language specifics. > And then kill [EMAIL PROTECTE

Re: [opensuse] [EMAIL PROTECTED]

2006-06-06 Thread jdd
houghi wrote: On Tue, Jun 06, 2006 at 12:33:15AM +0200, Martin Schlander wrote: opensuse-users@ -> opensuse-help opensuse@ -> opensuse-project Who's gonna misunderstand that? Great ideas. And then kill [EMAIL PROTECTED] There shouldn't be a plain opensuse@ - too confusing for people to

Re: [opensuse] [EMAIL PROTECTED]

2006-06-06 Thread Peter Flodin
On 6/6/06, Randall R Schulz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I certainly do. A community is _people_ not _projects_. You are _not_ discussing _the community_, you're discussing _the work_. No matter how many times you repeat it, you're not going to change English to suit your misunderstanding. I thin

Re: [opensuse] [EMAIL PROTECTED]

2006-06-05 Thread houghi
On Mon, Jun 05, 2006 at 10:09:24PM -0700, Randall R Schulz wrote: I insisted only >> nor did I insist Did you insist or did you not insist. You know what? You are right and I have my peace. So whatever. houghi -- This openSUSE mailinglist is about the community. All discussion about t

Re: [opensuse] [EMAIL PROTECTED]

2006-06-05 Thread Randall R Schulz
On Monday 05 June 2006 21:43, houghi wrote: > On Mon, Jun 05, 2006 at 09:18:51PM -0700, Randall R Schulz wrote: > > Why am I the bad guy here? > > Because of your wording. > > > Because I forced those who consider > > themselves the police of this list to actually say what is and is > > not on-topi

Re: [opensuse] [EMAIL PROTECTED]

2006-06-05 Thread houghi
On Mon, Jun 05, 2006 at 09:18:51PM -0700, Randall R Schulz wrote: > Why am I the bad guy here? Because of your wording. > Because I forced those who consider > themselves the police of this list to actually say what is and is not > on-topic for this list and to use words as they're actually de

Re: [opensuse] [EMAIL PROTECTED]

2006-06-05 Thread Randall R Schulz
On Monday 05 June 2006 15:33, Martin Schlander wrote: > ... > > And then kill [EMAIL PROTECTED] There shouldn't be a plain opensuse@ - too > confusing for people to figure out which aspects of opensuse belong > on there - a lot of people like Randall will expect opensuse@ to > cover every and any a

Re: [opensuse] [EMAIL PROTECTED]

2006-06-05 Thread Rajko M
houghi wrote: On Mon, Jun 05, 2006 at 06:51:41PM -0500, Rajko M wrote: Keep it for people that can't decide where to go. Please. This with a good reply at subscription. It will eiter become a playground, will grow into something great or whatever. Reply is not really necessity, as most of p

Re: [opensuse] [EMAIL PROTECTED] => opensuse-help gets my vote

2006-06-05 Thread Kenneth Aar, Grafikern.no
Martin Schlander wrote: > Henne's proposal is > good - but we should learn from our mistakes and enhance it a little bit. > > opensuse-users@ -> opensuse-help > > opensuse@ -> opensuse-project > > Who's gonna misunderstand that? This is the best suggestion so far. To get rid of of all confusion w

Re: [opensuse] [EMAIL PROTECTED]

2006-06-05 Thread Rajko M
Marcus Rueckert wrote: On 2006-06-05 18:46:33 -0500, Rajko M wrote: It doesn't sound obvious to me, Henne. The opensuse-users tells me that it is place for users, but nothing specific what to expect there, place for chat or help and support, or both. It will be used just as it is "opesuse" now

Re: [opensuse] [EMAIL PROTECTED]

2006-06-05 Thread houghi
On Mon, Jun 05, 2006 at 06:51:41PM -0500, Rajko M wrote: > Keep it for people that can't decide where to go. Please. This with a good reply at subscription. It will eiter become a playground, will grow into something great or whatever. > Newbies will come in general discussion and than get initia

Re: [opensuse] [EMAIL PROTECTED]

2006-06-05 Thread Marcus Rueckert
On 2006-06-05 18:46:33 -0500, Rajko M wrote: > It doesn't sound obvious to me, Henne. > The opensuse-users tells me that it is place for users, but nothing > specific what to expect there, place for chat or help and support, or > both. It will be used just as it is "opesuse" now, for both. > > F

Re: [opensuse] [EMAIL PROTECTED]

2006-06-05 Thread Rajko M
Eberhard Moenkeberg wrote: In any way, we have to go the "intuitive" way, from the eyes of the first-time user. Because you can't "educate" someone you have never seen, spoken or touched. So I think "opensuse" (the bare name) must get made ready to process postings like "it does not work -

Re: [opensuse] [EMAIL PROTECTED]

2006-06-05 Thread Eberhard Moenkeberg
Hi, On Mon, 5 Jun 2006, Rajko M wrote: Carl Hartung wrote: On Monday 05 June 2006 18:54, houghi wrote: And then kill [EMAIL PROTECTED] There shouldn't be a plain opensuse@ - too confusing for people to figure out which aspects of opensuse belong on there - a lot of people like Leave it as

Re: [opensuse] [EMAIL PROTECTED]

2006-06-05 Thread Rajko M
Martin Schlander wrote: Tirsdag 06 juni 2006 00:54 skrev houghi: Great ideas. Well, actually it was Adrian's and Siegberts idea's respectively. Don't wanna take credit. Martin / cb400f Martin, whoever was it, is simple and it will be seldom problem. I support this. -- Regards, Rajko. -

Re: [opensuse] [EMAIL PROTECTED]

2006-06-05 Thread Rajko M
Carl Hartung wrote: On Monday 05 June 2006 18:54, houghi wrote: And then kill [EMAIL PROTECTED] There shouldn't be a plain opensuse@ - too confusing for people to figure out which aspects of opensuse belong on there - a lot of people like Leave it as a honey trap. :-) People still unwilling or

Re: [opensuse] [EMAIL PROTECTED]

2006-06-05 Thread Rajko M
Henne Vogelsang wrote: If anything I would say that if there is opensuse-users and opensuse, I would have no idea where to ask community questions and where to ask technical ones. I find it pretty obvious. Henne It doesn't sound obvious to me, Henne. The opensuse-users tells me that it

Re: [opensuse] [EMAIL PROTECTED]

2006-06-05 Thread Carl Hartung
On Monday 05 June 2006 18:54, houghi wrote: > > And then kill [EMAIL PROTECTED] There shouldn't be a plain opensuse@ - too > > confusing for people to figure out which aspects of opensuse belong on > > there - a lot of people like > > Leave it as a honey trap. :-) People still unwilling or unable

Re: [opensuse] [EMAIL PROTECTED]

2006-06-05 Thread Martin Schlander
Tirsdag 06 juni 2006 00:54 skrev houghi: > Great ideas. Well, actually it was Adrian's and Siegberts idea's respectively. Don't wanna take credit. Martin / cb400f - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional comma

Re: [opensuse] [EMAIL PROTECTED]

2006-06-05 Thread houghi
On Tue, Jun 06, 2006 at 12:33:15AM +0200, Martin Schlander wrote: > opensuse-users@ -> opensuse-help > > opensuse@ -> opensuse-project > > Who's gonna misunderstand that? Great ideas. > And then kill [EMAIL PROTECTED] There shouldn't be a plain opensuse@ - too > confusing > for people to figu

Re: [opensuse] [EMAIL PROTECTED]

2006-06-05 Thread Martin Schlander
Mandag 05 juni 2006 18:19 skrev Henne Vogelsang: > > If anything I would say that if there is opensuse-users and opensuse, > > I would have no idea where to ask community questions and where to ask > > technical ones. > > I find it pretty obvious. I'm personally in favour of keeping things as they

Re: [opensuse] [EMAIL PROTECTED]

2006-06-05 Thread houghi
On Mon, Jun 05, 2006 at 06:19:07PM +0200, Henne Vogelsang wrote: > Nothing for now. Lets see what will happen once we have -users lists. > Then decide again... Look at the postings that are being done now and answerd now since hell broke loose. How many of them do you think are on topic? Exept for

Re: [opensuse] [EMAIL PROTECTED]

2006-06-05 Thread Henne Vogelsang
Hi, On Monday, June 05, 2006 at 17:06:50, houghi wrote: > On Mon, Jun 05, 2006 at 02:28:18PM +0200, Henne Vogelsang wrote: > > On Monday, June 05, 2006 at 13:12:27, Siegbert Baude wrote: > > > Adrian Schröter wrote: > > > > > > > IIRC henne wanted to make suse-linux-e also available under the >

Re: [opensuse] [EMAIL PROTECTED]

2006-06-05 Thread jdd
houghi wrote: suse-linux-e becomes opensuse-users suse-linux-s becomes opensuse-users-es suse-linux becomes opensuse-users-de I have some time now for the new mailinglist server and im already working on it since last weekend. This does not explain what will happen to opensuse itself. That

Re: [opensuse] [EMAIL PROTECTED]

2006-06-05 Thread houghi
On Mon, Jun 05, 2006 at 02:28:18PM +0200, Henne Vogelsang wrote: > Hi, > > On Monday, June 05, 2006 at 13:12:27, Siegbert Baude wrote: > > Adrian Schröter wrote: > > > > > IIRC henne wanted to make suse-linux-e also available under the opensuse > > > domain. So we can always announce the new nam

Re: [opensuse] [EMAIL PROTECTED]

2006-06-05 Thread jdd
Henne Vogelsang wrote: Hi, See my mail for the new ml layout http://lists4.opensuse.org/opensuse/2006-02/msg00382.html suse-linux-e becomes opensuse-users suse-linux-s becomes opensuse-users-es suse-linux becomes opensuse-users-de I have some time now for the new mailinglist server and im a

Re: [opensuse] [EMAIL PROTECTED]

2006-06-05 Thread Henne Vogelsang
Hi, On Monday, June 05, 2006 at 13:12:27, Siegbert Baude wrote: > Adrian Schröter wrote: > > > IIRC henne wanted to make suse-linux-e also available under the opensuse > > domain. So we can always announce the new name and fade out the old one. > > Without the need to resubscribe anyone. > > U

Re: [opensuse] [EMAIL PROTECTED]

2006-06-05 Thread Siegbert Baude
Adrian Schröter wrote: > Am Monday 05 June 2006 08:58 schrieb jdd: >> could we have an alias (or something similar) between >> suse-linux-e and something like >> "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" > hm, -technical would match also on different other topics, where -factory > or -buildservice might be a better li

Re: [opensuse] [EMAIL PROTECTED]

2006-06-05 Thread jdd
Adrian Schröter wrote: IIRC henne wanted to make suse-linux-e also available under the opensuse domain. So we can always announce the new name and fade out the old one. Without the need to resubscribe anyone. this is what I had in mind :-) jdd -- http://www.dodin.net http://dodin.org/galer

Re: [opensuse] [EMAIL PROTECTED]

2006-06-05 Thread Adrian Schröter
Am Monday 05 June 2006 08:58 schrieb jdd: > could we have an alias (or something similar) between > suse-linux-e and something like > "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" hm, -technical would match also on different other topics, where -factory or -buildservice might be a better list. What kind of questions wou

Re: [opensuse] [EMAIL PROTECTED]

2006-06-05 Thread Pascal Bleser
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Richard Bos wrote: > Op maandag 5 juni 2006 08:58, schreef jdd: >> could we have an alias (or something similar) between >> suse-linux-e and something like >> "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" >> >> may be part of the problem comes from the name. suse-linux-e >> may

Re: [opensuse] [EMAIL PROTECTED]

2006-06-05 Thread Richard Bos
Op maandag 5 juni 2006 08:58, schreef jdd: > could we have an alias (or something similar) between > suse-linux-e and something like > "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" > > may be part of the problem comes from the name. suse-linux-e > may be understood, like all the others suse.com lists, as > Novell specifics

[opensuse] [EMAIL PROTECTED]

2006-06-04 Thread jdd
could we have an alias (or something similar) between suse-linux-e and something like "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" may be part of the problem comes from the name. suse-linux-e may be understood, like all the others suse.com lists, as Novell specifics or pre-opensuse SUSE Linux distributions (up to 9.

Re: [opensuse] [EMAIL PROTECTED]: User Restrictions (not Child Protection).

2006-05-02 Thread Duncan Mac-Vicar Prett
On Sunday 30 April 2006 03:05, Peter Flodin wrote: > In a Microsoft Windows domain there is something called Global Policy, > which means on a per user and per machine, I could lock down all sort > of settings. eg I could hide control panels, Internet Explorer, > ability to get to a command line, v

Re: [opensuse] [EMAIL PROTECTED]: User Restrictions (not Child Protection).

2006-04-30 Thread Ciaran Farrell
Am So 30.04.2006 03:05 schrieb Peter Flodin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > In a Microsoft Windows domain there is something called Global Policy, > which means on a per user and per machine, I could lock down all sort > of settings. eg I could hide control panels, Internet Explorer, > ability to get to a

[opensuse] [EMAIL PROTECTED]: User Restrictions (not Child Protection).

2006-04-29 Thread Peter Flodin
I have a proposal that we don't call this feature Child Protection, or Parental Control or anything similar. In addition to filtering (I would only use whitelisting) what I would like to see is an easy way to configure restrictions for users. I will give a personal example. I have a several comp