Re: [opensuse] Microsoft claims software like Linux violates its patents - May 28, 2007

2007-05-17 Thread Mohammad Bhuyan
On 5/17/07, James D. Parra [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Even if hypothetically there are patent infringements in the Linux kernel, then the open source community would do the right thing and remove the offending code and, because open source development moves so rapidly, that means Linux would no

Re: [opensuse] Microsoft claims software like Linux violates its patents - May 28, 2007

2007-05-17 Thread Pueblo Native
James D. Parra wrote: This is a good article; http://www.itwire.com.au/content/view/12212/53/ Even if hypothetically there are patent infringements in the Linux kernel, then the open source community would do the right thing and remove the offending code and, because open source development

Re: [opensuse] Microsoft claims software like Linux violates its patents - May 28, 2007

2007-05-17 Thread M. Fioretti
On Wed, May 16, 2007 12:10:46 PM -0700, James D. Parra ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: This is a good article; http://www.itwire.com.au/content/view/12212/53/ Please, not again! Can it be good if it makes mistakes like this: Even if hypothetically there are patent infringements in the Linux

Re: [opensuse] Microsoft claims software like Linux violates its patents - May 28, 2007

2007-05-17 Thread George Osvald
On Friday 18 May 2007 02:54, M. Fioretti wrote: On Wed, May 16, 2007 12:10:46 PM -0700, James D. Parra ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: This is a good article; http://www.itwire.com.au/content/view/12212/53/ Please, not again! Can it be good if it makes mistakes like this: Even if

Re: [opensuse] Microsoft claims software like Linux violates its patents - May 28, 2007

2007-05-17 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* George Osvald [EMAIL PROTECTED] [05-17-07 21:33]: Well I am not a lawyer but I think there are problems with Microsoft claims. And they would probably fit better in [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please have some consideration and stop filling the list and archives with wild rantings and speculation

Re: [opensuse] Microsoft claims software like Linux violates its patents - May 28, 2007

2007-05-17 Thread jfweber
On Thu May 17 2007, George Osvald scratched these words onto a coconut shell, hoping for an answer: On Friday 18 May 2007 02:54, M. Fioretti wrote: On Wed, May 16, 2007 12:10:46 PM -0700, James D. Parra ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: This is a good article;

RE: [opensuse] Microsoft claims software like Linux violates its patents - May 28, 2007

2007-05-16 Thread James D. Parra
This is a good article; http://www.itwire.com.au/content/view/12212/53/ Even if hypothetically there are patent infringements in the Linux kernel, then the open source community would do the right thing and remove the offending code and, because open source development moves so rapidly, that

Re: [opensuse] Microsoft claims software like Linux violates its patents - May 28, 2007

2007-05-16 Thread George Osvald
On Thursday 17 May 2007, James D. Parra wrote: This is a good article; http://www.itwire.com.au/content/view/12212/53/ Even if hypothetically there are patent infringements in the Linux kernel, then the open source community would do the right thing and remove the offending code and,

Re: [opensuse] Microsoft claims software like Linux violates its patents - May 28, 2007

2007-05-16 Thread Jim Flanagan
George Osvald wrote: On Thursday 17 May 2007, James D. Parra wrote: This is a good article; http://www.itwire.com.au/content/view/12212/53/ Even if hypothetically there are patent infringements in the Linux kernel, then the open source community would do the right thing and remove the

Re: [opensuse] Microsoft claims software like Linux violates its patents - May 28, 2007

2007-05-16 Thread M Harris
On Wednesday 16 May 2007 20:18, Jim Flanagan wrote: If Microsoft ever started talking specifics, about any little thing, they would be dead. Completely and totally dead. There is no way they can engage the community on ANY specific topic without debasing, degrading themselves into the lowest

Re: [opensuse] Microsoft claims software like Linux violates its patents - May 28, 2007

2007-05-15 Thread S Glasoe
On Monday May 14 2007 10:08:29 pm frank nelson wrote: Only fair. It would be a bit hypocritical to demand a standard for others, that one does not demand of oneself. Ah that'd be Microsoft Marketing 101 just down the hall second door on the right. -- Stan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL

Re: [opensuse] Microsoft claims software like Linux violates its patents - May 28, 2007

2007-05-15 Thread Jan Karjalainen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 S Glasoe wrote: On Monday May 14 2007 10:08:29 pm frank nelson wrote: Only fair. It would be a bit hypocritical to demand a standard for others, that one does not demand of oneself. Ah that'd be Microsoft Marketing 101 just down the hall second

Re: [opensuse] Microsoft claims software like Linux violates its patents - May 28, 2007

2007-05-15 Thread Jan Karjalainen
Dave Howorth wrote: Jan Karjalainen wrote: S Glasoe wrote: On Monday May 14 2007 10:08:29 pm frank nelson wrote: Only fair. It would be a bit hypocritical to demand a standard for others, that one does not demand of oneself. Ah that'd be Microsoft Marketing 101

Re: [opensuse] Microsoft claims software like Linux violates its patents - May 28, 2007

2007-05-14 Thread frank nelson
--- James Knott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There was some recent discussion on this list about MS claims of patent infringement and someone claimed they hadn't done so recently. From the Suse, M$ and Dell thread. Nope, I don't need recent cites. Until retracted Ballmers statments

Re: [opensuse] Microsoft claims software like Linux violates its patents - May 28, 2007

2007-05-14 Thread M Harris
On Monday 14 May 2007 04:59, frank nelson wrote: thank you for bringing this article to my attention, so that I might be allowed an opportunity to correct a situation in which I was in error. Ya done good kid, and I truly appreciate it. Very nice... :) -- Kind

Re: [opensuse] Microsoft claims software like Linux violates its patents - May 28, 2007

2007-05-14 Thread steve reilly
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday 13 May 2007 19:01, John Andersen wrote: On Sunday 13 May 2007, Pueblo Native wrote: Gutierrez refuses to identify specific patents or explain how they're being infringed, lest FOSS advocates start filing challenges to them. Security

Re: [opensuse] Microsoft claims software like Linux violates its patents - May 28, 2007

2007-05-14 Thread frank nelson
--- M Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Monday 14 May 2007 04:59, frank nelson wrote: thank you for bringing this article to my attention, so that I might be allowed an opportunity to correct a situation in which I was in error. Ya done good kid, and I truly appreciate it.

[opensuse] Microsoft claims software like Linux violates its patents - May 28, 2007

2007-05-13 Thread James Knott
There was some recent discussion on this list about MS claims of patent infringement and someone claimed they hadn't done so recently. From the Suse, M$ and Dell thread. Nope, I don't need recent cites. Until retracted Ballmers statments stand as official Microsoft Policy. Therefore the

Re: [opensuse] Microsoft claims software like Linux violates its patents - May 28, 2007

2007-05-13 Thread Mike McMullin
On Sun, 2007-05-13 at 15:25 -0400, James Knott wrote: There was some recent discussion on this list about MS claims of patent infringement and someone claimed they hadn't done so recently. From the Suse, M$ and Dell thread. Nope, I don't need recent cites. Until retracted Ballmers

Re: [opensuse] Microsoft claims software like Linux violates its patents - May 28, 2007

2007-05-13 Thread Pueblo Native
James Knott wrote: There was some recent discussion on this list about MS claims of patent infringement and someone claimed they hadn't done so recently. From the Suse, M$ and Dell thread. Nope, I don't need recent cites. Until retracted This might be completely irrelevant, but am I in

Re: [opensuse] Microsoft claims software like Linux violates its patents - May 28, 2007

2007-05-13 Thread Stephan Binner
On Sunday 13 May 2007 21:25:13 James Knott wrote: There was some recent discussion on this list about MS claims of patent infringement and someone claimed they hadn't done so recently. Microsoft also claims The Free Software movement is dead. Linux doesn't exist in 2007. @

Re: [opensuse] Microsoft claims software like Linux violates its patents - May 28, 2007

2007-05-13 Thread John Andersen
On Sunday 13 May 2007, Pueblo Native wrote: Gutierrez refuses to identify specific patents or explain how they're being infringed, lest FOSS advocates start filing challenges to them. Security by Obscurity takes a new twist. -- _ John Andersen -- To

Re: [opensuse] Microsoft claims software like Linux violates its patents - May 28, 2007

2007-05-13 Thread jfweber
On Sun May 13 2007, John Andersen scratched these words onto a coconut shell, hoping for an answer: On Sunday 13 May 2007, Pueblo Native wrote: Gutierrez refuses to identify specific patents or explain how they're being infringed, lest FOSS advocates start filing challenges to them.

Re: [opensuse] Microsoft claims software like Linux violates its patents - May 28, 2007

2007-05-13 Thread John Andersen
On Sunday 13 May 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun May 13 2007, John Andersen scratched these words onto a coconut shell, hoping for an answer: On Sunday 13 May 2007, Pueblo Native wrote: Gutierrez refuses to identify specific patents or explain how they're being infringed, lest